What is the best advanced standing program? .. also do I have to do the TOFEL if I am Canadian?

[pikaboo]

So I am about to finish my dental education (outside of North America, all in English) and about to go through choosing what to apply for and what would be the best strategy to do so. I was wondering what is the best Advanced Standing program to choose and whether or not I have to do the TOFEL exam or the ADAT exam to apply and get accepted.

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[oralcare123]

The best advanced standing program is the cheapest one.
Most of the time you need TOEFL, only a few schools don’t ask for it

 

[pikaboo]

The best advanced standing program is the cheapest one.
Most of the time you need TOEFL, only a few schools don’t ask for it

Wouldn't a more prestigious (chances are more expensive) program such as U of Michigan be better for people who want to undergo specialist training later on?

 

[oralcare123]

Wouldn't a more prestigious (chances are more expensive) program such as U of Michigan be better for people who want to undergo specialist training later on?

Your optimism is admirable, I am more realistic. By the time you graduate from IDP you will be about 300K in debt and most people draw a line and abandon the dream to specialize at this
If you are single and money are not an issue, then you need to research which schools have better rates of specialization.
You would need to have excellent GPA both in BDS and DDS/DMD

 

[pikaboo]

Your optimism is admirable, I am more realistic. By the time you graduate from IDP you will be about 300K in debt and most people draw a line and abandon the dream to specialize at this
If you are single and money are not an issue, then you need to research which schools have better rates of specialization.
You would need to have excellent GPA both in BDS and DDS/DMD

They look at both the BDS GPA and DDS/DMD GPA?
Wouldn't the CBSE be the best grading tool in addition to my class rank ?
Thanks <3

 

[oralcare123]

They look at both the BDS GPA and DDS/DMD GPA?
Wouldn't the CBSE be the best grading tool in addition to my class rank ?
Thanks <3

Different programs have different requirements. I am not an expert on all of them. In general you need an above average GPA to show that you are a good enough candidate. For example, don't expect much with GPA of 1.98

 

[Coffee_Rottie]

So I am about to finish my dental education (outside of North America, all in English) and about to go through choosing what to apply for and what would be the best strategy to do so. I was wondering what is the best Advanced Standing program to choose and whether or not I have to do the TOFEL exam or the ADAT exam to apply and get accepted.

I have a similar controversy regarding the TOEFL since I am a us citizen who decided to study my DDS abroad in order to learn a new language...so I still don't know if I need to present the TOEFL scores.

 

[pikaboo]

I have a similar controversy regarding the TOEFL since I am a us citizen who decided to study my DDS abroad in order to learn a new language...so I still don't know if I need to present the TOEFL scores.

Let me know what happens of it, I am still researching and will definitely ask dental programs when i get back home this summer. Ill keep this thread updated if anything comes new.

 

[Coffee_Rottie]

Let me know what happens of it, I am still researching and will definitely ask dental programs when i get back home this summer. Ill keep this thread updated if anything comes new.

I got in touch with the Advanced standing program at UT Health at San Antonio and was told that regardless of the nationality, if the DDS I had was from a non-english speaking country a Toefl exam must be presented...and so I had to make the test in order to apply. Hope this helps @pikaboo

 

[toothlover1]

Lol this thread is adorable. The best program is the one that gives you admission. This isn't community college, to get even one offer takes a lot of work. Take whatever you get. All the schools are the same. Your patients don't care if you went to UPENN or Loma Linda, they just see DMD or DDS. Nobody cares.

 

[oralcare123]

Lol this thread is adorable. The best program is the one that gives you admission. This isn't community college, to get even one offer takes a lot of work. Take whatever you get. All the schools are the same. Your patients don't care if you went to UPENN or Loma Linda, they just see DMD or DDS. Nobody cares.

For licensing -yes, they are all the same value. But the quality of teaching and how easy to manage the classes, how easy it is to fulfill the requirements in patient care, that is where they differ significantly

 

[sam shaar]

So I am about to finish my dental education (outside of North America, all in English) and about to go through choosing what to apply for and what would be the best strategy to do so. I was wondering what is the best Advanced Standing program to choose and whether or not I have to do the TOFEL exam or the ADAT exam to apply and get accepted.

So if you're Canadian or American born I think you should use TOEFL to your advantage, just take it, it's one of the few objective tools programs have for evaluation, as to schools, you can never go wrong with names like UPenn, UIC, U of Michigan, UCSF and others, and yes big names give you a push for specialties (a pass/fail curriculum is a huge disadvantage), look into individual programs and ask about the percentage of students that get into specialties during interviews, look into the cost and most important if you're considering specialties you should start preparing early (take tests, externship, research...), ADAT is needed for specialty applications not for dental school, CBSE is needed for OMFS, GRE for ortho, generally speaking no one in specialty programs cares about your BDS or native GPA, all focus on your performance and preparation during American dental school, best of luck