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I'm not sure what you're referring to, but if you're talking about the slim, I wouldn't want that.
I'm not sure what you're referring to, but if you're talking about the slim, I wouldn't want that.
I wish vaio's had tablets! I really like the HP tablets 1000x series tablets though .. what do you guys think about that one?
The main complaint i've heard about the HPs is that the screen isn't very sensitive - you have to press pretty hard to write. the Lenovo is much more sensitive (so folks who have HPs and have tried my Lenovo have reported with a very sad look upon their faces).
So Shy, you're loving the Lenovo? What variant do you have and what are the specs if you don't mind me asking? I've outlined a few of my needs with regard to the Lenovo line and would like to know what model you went with and why. Also, although somewhat of a functional novelty, do they all come with the print scanner? I built one or two upper-end models (ThinkPad X61) and it didn't have that security feature anywhere as a selection... just curious.
BTW - I can't stand Dell support (since outsourcing started years ago) and have never heard very many good things about Gateway. However, the DCOM student's Gateways were pretty sharp and functional IMO. Let me know about your Lenovo when you have a second.
The main complaint i've heard about the HPs is that the screen isn't very sensitive - you have to press pretty hard to write. the Lenovo is much more sensitive (so folks who have HPs and have tried my Lenovo have reported with a very sad look upon their faces).
So Shy, you're loving the Lenovo? What variant do you have and what are the specs if you don't mind me asking? I've outlined a few of my needs with regard to the Lenovo line and would like to know what model you went with and why. Also, although somewhat of a functional novelty, do they all come with the print scanner? I built one or two upper-end models (ThinkPad X61) and it didn't have that security feature anywhere as a selection... just curious.
BTW - I can't stand Dell support (since outsourcing started years ago) and have never heard very many good things about Gateway. However, the DCOM student's Gateways were pretty sharp and functional IMO. Let me know about your Lenovo when you have a second.
This issue was fixed in the latest version (2000) I believe. Plus, the HP goes for about 2/3 the cost of the IBM. It also comes with outstanding upgrades that you won't get in the IBM without paying lots more money like:
>2 GB ram
>160 GB HD
DVD burner
Web camera, card slot media remote, fingerprint, and microphone
>2.0 GHz Dual core processor
Dedicated graphics card with additional shared memory
Bluetooth and wireless
My money is on the HP. For the price, you can't beat it.
This issue was fixed in the latest version (2000) I believe. Plus, the HP goes for about 2/3 the cost of the IBM. It also comes with outstanding upgrades that you won't get in the IBM without paying lots more money like:
>2 GB ram
>160 GB HD
DVD burner
Web camera, card slot media remote, fingerprint, and microphone
>2.0 GHz Dual core processor
Dedicated graphics card with additional shared memory
Bluetooth and wireless
My money is on the HP. For the price, you can't beat it.
guess again..you can get a fully loaded x61t for under $1000
Sorry, what issue was fixed exactly?
Where? I'm looking on the lenovo website:
http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/...-category-id=329576204C9E42289967E79E0E7C9A2D
The basic model is over $1500. Is there another site that's cheaper?
As for the 2000z, basic model starts at $1000:
http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/s...v1=Travel/mobility&series_name=tx2000z_series
watch for lenovo deals on fatwallet hot deals forum
few weeks ago, they had x61 deals coming below $1k. i would have loved to do it but i dont have the money.
So, go regularly look at that forum. I will try to post it here when I see any good lappy on sale. only thing I dont like about x61 is that it doesnt have a cd/dvd bay. i guess you can spend extra $50 to buy an external drive
i like the lenovo, but I think the HP 2000x series has more features including more memory and there's not much of a price difference either. And its weighs a little less than 5 lbs (so its as light as a macbook or slightly lighter)
Syncope, could you check your PM inbox??
I'm thinking about a 17'' macbook pro now...
Do you think the employee code would work on the Canadian website? I am guessing the answer is no, but the amount I would have to pay in duty wouldn't be worth purchasing from the american site.... just let me know!
There seems to be a lot of tablet talk, and even Lenovo talk going on. I was curious what you all thought of the other ultraportables (Sony Vaio SZ, Lenovo X300, etc.), especially the Lenovo one since it is brand new.
I was thinking about getting the X300 but it seems that people are loving the tablet uses in class that I might have to reconsider.
Oh! and another question for Shy: did you get the mobile media base for your tablet? It is a bit expensive, but I was wondering how necessary it is.
I was considering doing that since CD/DVDROM externals are pretty cheap.
I'm curious though as to why the tablet is so prevalent or emphasized by the DO schools to the point where it might be provided by the school.
I've never owned or known a family member or friend with a tablet, so I'm still wary of the whole thing.
I guess you could say it is the swivel hinge that worries me.
Lenovo makes great products though, so how long do you expect yours to last?
I did get the mobile dock. I use it seldomly, but there are still programs out there that run on CDROM or need install from CDROM. If you have an external drive (a much cheaper option), that would suffice. Mainly the dock gathers dust on my desk.
As for a comparison, i've played with the HP (NOT a favorite of mine - but i've written about that before). Most other tablets are heavier than the Lenovo, and if I had to do it all over again today, I'd buy another Lenovo without a second thought. Rated higher by independent labs, lighter, durable... worth every penny. But I'd probably get an external CDROM rather than the dock.
Syncope, the X300 will come with a HDD later this year. The reason I considered it was because other than not being a tablet, it has just about everything I could want from a laptop. It is comparable to the X61 in weight, but due to it having a CDROM it does weigh it down.
The Penryn is nice to have, but seeing as the X300 favors the ULV, it was no surprise to me about the processor.
That hinge is a thing of beauty, like what you'd expect to find on a BMW. Big enough to be mechanically stable, small enough to not add weight. Flexible enough to not invite breakage, rigid enough to prevent wear. You can swivel and hinge at the same time, but the two motions are separated within the mechanism so they're not wearing against each other.
I think I'm still going to go with the HP. For the price and features, its unbeatable. Check this out (as quoted from www.XPBargains.com):
"HP has $400 off HP Pavilion tx2000z $1199+ w/ coupon code: NB0400 (exp 3/9).
new ultraportable HP Pavilion tx2000z Entertainment Notebook w/ Turion 64 X2 Dual-Core TL-60 2GHz, 12.1" WXGA+ Wide Viewing Touch-screen (stylus included), GeForce Go6150, 2GB +$75, 160GB SATA, free DVD+-RW Lightscribe, 56k/NIC, 802.11b/g, free HP Imprint + fingerprint reader + webcam, 6-cell battery, Vista Home Premium for $1225 - $400 off coupon = $825 w/ free shipping."
Add even more upgrades, and you're looking at one bitch'n computer for around $1000.
A couple of questions....
1) Is this a good deal given the spec? Is this a good computer?
2) I know that many schools include the price of a laptop in the budget/loan. Is it OK to buy now and still ask for it in the budget/loan?
I'm thinking of buying one now so that I get used to using a tablet and my transition from a Mac to a PC. I just wish there is a store with a few tablets for me to try. No store seems to carry any tablets.
There are a few things to consider:
1. This is an awsome deal given the specs. Compare it to the baseline lenovo, and you're getting quite a few more features (larger Hard Drive, webcam, dvd burner, Nvidia graphics) for a lot less. If you run the baseline configurations, and look at the price without applying coupons (I'm assuming lenovo and HP provide similar discount coupons), then you get the following:
Lenovo Baseline at $1,559.22:
Intel Core Duo 1.6 GHz processor
Vista Business
12.1" 1024 x 768 SXGA screen
1 GB RAM
Intel GMA X3100 graphics
80 GB Hard Drive
A/B/G wireless card
4 cell battery
No optical drive
1 Year warranty
HP Baseline at $999.99:
Vista Home Premium
AMD Dual Core 2.0 GHz
12.1" Widescreen 1280 x 800 Active/Passive Screen
1 GB Ram
Nvidia GeForce Go 6150
Imprint finish + built-in webcamera, fingerprint reader, and microphone
160 GB Hard Drive
A/B/G Wireless card
Lightscribe DL-DVD Burner
6 cell battery
1 Year warranty
However, if you wan't reliability, I'm not sure about the HP. I have owned one in the past without problems, but I get the feeling the Lenovo is stronger. If you're like me, and purchase a new computer every two years or so, then HP's warranty will serve its purpose. HP definitely more entertainment orientated and will provide upgrades like tv-tuners. Lenovo is more business orientated, black and simple, with more upgrade options like larger and faster hard drives, turbo memory, etc.
2. Just wait until you get your financial aid package. These deals come along often enough that buying now wouldn't be the best idea. By waiting, infact, you might even get a better deal on either tablet as technology is always increasing and they may provide more features or even a newer model by the time school comes around.
I personally own an imac, and really don't like the idea of moving back to a PC. However, I think the tablet's capabilities will make it very valuable in medical school (and mac doesn't offer a tablet yet).
keep in mind that if you use the employee access...(email me for access)..that is 15% off that baseline price, and there are always plenty of coupon codes for an additional discount...just do a search at www.slickdeals.net or www.fatwallet.com ..which will bring the price down significantly for the lenovo thinkpad
i also believe you get what you pay for...the hp will be more plasticy and more cheap...and definetly less durable than a thinkpad...the metal swivel joint on the tablet is a work of art...other manufacturers can only hope to emulate something like that.
I would agree, and from what I've heard, the HP is not as solid as the Lenovo if you are looking for reliability/durability. However, I also think computer manufacturers inflate prices big time, notoriously lenovo: I mean, look at the base specs. My money is still with the HP. With the purchase of an extended warranty for a few hundred bucks, I get the same reassurance as the lenovo, a whole lot more features, and still end up paying less.
Now when you say "Multitouch" for Lenovo x61 you mean pen and finger not multiple contacts at one time right (ie. iphone)? Thanks
Yeah, it's not the same thing as the MacBook Air or iPhone where you pinch and it shrinks and stuff like that. Multitouch for the tablet means you can use just about any pointy object to click, scroll and write on the screen.
It seems kind of handy to just tap the screen twitch to open an application, but I would also prefer the large resolution and I don't know how often I will be poking my screen for just convenience purposes.
At any rate, if I can save a buck on the Lenovo tablet, I'll be getting it for sure.
one would hope data integrity would be of the upmost importance too in med school...gosh..wouldn't it suck to have a HD failure a few days before midterms or finals?
I definitely will not go without a large external hard drive for back up purposes. BTW, is anyone else amazed by apple's time machine for os x leopard? I have my imac hooked up to an external HD and it automatically does backups every hour. On the desktop, I can navigate into my files just like when I made the backup. Even better, I can go back months and months. PC's need a program like this.