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[FarscapeGirl]

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Goodness gracious.

How is this thread 5 pages long?

Because the original OP didn't know it, but not only was she asking when is the best time to have a baby in pharmacy school, she was also asking what others thought about pharmacists taking maternity leave, whether having kids is stupid or smart, and how not to be a gold digger when you date people. 🙂

 

[VancTheTank]

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[Kirbypuff]

Hell, early last year the school made me go get tested for ADHD after numerous preceptors complained about me drifting off mentally all the time during discussions.

HAHAHA that sounds like me!

But back to IQ...there are people with IQs > 190 that believe in religion. That pretty much negates any and all respect I would have for its validity as a measure of reasoning skills. If you are religious, no offense, btw...but you're kookie...(hopefully this spawns a fun, new line of arguments to occupy my time...)

There are 4 main categories of thought with respect to the existence of God.

1) God>>You>>Others
2) God=You=Others
3) God>>You=Others
4) No God. You>>Others

I listened to a discussion about 9/11 and jihads that explained why some people would sacrifice their lives to murder people for the sake of their God. People in all categories of thought can range from fantastically stupid to super genius. It's usually an exaggerated version of #3 God>>>>>>You=Others that will make someone a great candidate to participate in jihad and this person does not have to by psycho or stupid and can be in fact very smart. If you spoke with them, you would think they have it all together.

I wouldn't judge someone's intelligence based on their religion or non-religion, because it's the entirety of their life experience that has created the belief they hold in their minds. I'm all over Socrates' "I know nothing but the fact of my ignorance," because everything we "believe" is not always truth. Perhaps a devout religious person has experienced miraculous events in their lives and perhaps a non-religious person has not experienced anything beyond a coincidence.

 

[Kirbypuff]

Because the original OP didn't know it, but not only was she asking when is the best time to have a baby in pharmacy school, she was also asking what others thought about pharmacists taking maternity leave, whether having kids is stupid or smart, and how not to be a gold digger when you date people. 🙂

lol🙂

I<3 this thread 😀

 

[Kirbypuff]

I don't think I'm so complex that a person with an IQ of 120 wouldn't "get me."

But that's because you're a GUY, probably a Thinker. Girls generally are emotional Feelers. I base a lot of my decisions on my feelings instead of logic which makes me require a smarter mate who will understand that my illogical choices are just emotion based and they don't mean that I'm a complete *****. Although, I suppose that is arguable.

 

[FarscapeGirl]

HAHAHA that sounds like me!



There are 4 main categories of thought with respect to the existence of God.

1) God>>You>>Others
2) God=You=Others
3) God>>You=Others
4) No God. You>>Others

I listened to a discussion about 9/11 and jihads that explained why some people would sacrifice their lives to murder people for the sake of their God. People in all categories of thought can range from fantastically stupid to super genius. It's usually an exaggerated version of #3 God>>>>>>You=Others that will make someone a great candidate to participate in jihad and this person does not have to by psycho or stupid and can be in fact very smart. If you spoke with them, you would think they have it all together.

I wouldn't judge someone's intelligence based on their religion or non-religion, because it's the entirety of their life experience that has created the belief they hold in their minds. I'm all over Socrates' "I know nothing but the fact of my ignorance," because everything we "believe" is not always truth. Perhaps a devout religious person has experienced miraculous events in their lives and perhaps a non-religious person has not experienced anything beyond a coincidence.

What about "No God. You=Others"?

 

[WVUPharm2007]

There are 4 main categories of thought with respect to the existence of God.

1) God>>You>>Others
2) God=You=Others
3) God>>You=Others
4) No God. You>>Others

5) I don't care. None of us matter.

It's usually an exaggerated version of #3 God>>>>>>You=Others that will make someone a great candidate to participate in jihad and this person does not have to by psycho or stupid and can be in fact very smart. If you spoke with them, you would think they have it all together.

I wouldn't judge someone's intelligence based on their religion or non-religion, because it's the entirety of their life experience that has created the belief they hold in their minds. I'm all over Socrates' "I know nothing but the fact of my ignorance," because everything we "believe" is not always truth. Perhaps a devout religious person has experienced miraculous events in their lives and perhaps a non-religious person has not experienced anything beyond a coincidence.

Except for the fact that there has never been a religion that holds up to critical analysis. I suppose the exception would be people that just bought in to it and never actually took the time to critique religion itself. If you want to crash a plane into a building because a book/some dude told you to...then you are an idiot...

 

[WVUPharm2007]

But that's because you're a GUY, probably a Thinker. Girls generally are emotional Feelers. I base a lot of my decisions on my feelings instead of logic which makes me require a smarter mate who will understand that my illogical choices are just emotion based and they don't mean that I'm a complete *****. Although, I suppose that is arguable.

I figured out women are crazy at an early age. You can't rationalize crazy. I don't think it's that hard of a concept to gasp.

 

[FarscapeGirl]

I figured out women are crazy at an early age. You can't rationalize crazy. I don't think it's that hard of a concept to gasp.

Not all women are the same... I base most of my decisions on logic and much less on emotion.

And I think you have a typo and meant "grasp." Although a "concept to gasp" is pretty funny.

 

[Kirbypuff]

What about "No God. You=Others"?

Yea the actual diagram had 4 quadrants and "No God. You=Others" would fall under an umbrella of the No God quadrant. I just didn't feel like explaining it all. This is all from memory of something I learned circa 2002.

 

[WVUPharm2007]

Yea the actual diagram had 4 quadrants and "No God. You=Others" would fall under an umbrella of the No God quadrant. I just didn't feel like explaining it all. This is all from memory of something I learned circa 2002.

What about polytheism?

 

[WVUPharm2007]

I had a streak of 4 millionaire potentials bfs before my current bf (not a millionaire), I could've had it if money was all I wanted.

So...if you have dated four millionaires...and it was 3.5 years ago...and you are 24...then you dated 3 millionaire before you were 21...yet at the same time, you claim you do not date people older than you.

So...Where the hell are there 4 millionaires under the age of 21?

I don't think I've ever met a millionaire. Thank God. They would probably annoy me. Rich people are usually stupid as ****. Except Warren Buffett...he's cool...

 

[Kirbypuff]

5) I don't care. None of us matter.

What was your philosophy again? existentialism? fatalism? dontcarism?

Except for the fact that there has never been a religion that holds up to critical analysis.

There are some religions that have multitudes of books that put their faith under critical analysis and you'd be surprised that they are logical. I would used to think that agnostics have the most open-minded/critical thought about the matter of God, until I picked up an advanced probability book in some annex of Olin Library in Ithaca, NY, and I read that there is a 97% probability that God does exist. (I read that while procrastinating for a research project 😀) So while I am open to the idea that there is a 3% chance that God does not exist, and also my personal belief that there is a .00000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance that gravity does not exist, I'm going to lean towards God exists, and gravity definitely exists. And while both God and gravity can kill me, my fear in God is exponentially greater because gravity may kill me once, but God can kill me an infinite number of times. I love this topic. 😀

If you want to crash a plane into a building because a book/some dude told you to...then you are an idiot...

If you went to school in the U.S. since age 4 and graduated college and then moved to an Islamic country for 21 years and THEN came back to crash a plane into a building, THEN you are an idiot. But if you were born and raised in an Islamic country and performed jihad, you might be.... just a brazen fanatic of your super fundamental sector of your faith.

 

[Kirbypuff]

So...if you have dated four millionaires...and it was 3.5 years ago...and you are 24...then you dated 3 millionaire before you were 21...yet at the same time, you claim you do not date people older than you.

So...Where the hell are there 4 millionaires under the age of 21?

I don't think I've ever met a millionaire. Thank God. They would probably annoy me. Rich people are usually stupid as ****. Except Warren Buffett...he's cool...

Their parents were.

Their birth years were '86, '84, '85, '85. Yep, in that order. Also, I wouldn't say I "dated" them, but rather "went on dates with them." No real relationship budded, except for maybe one of them. My current bf is the oldest guy I've ever dated because of his early birthday and I always tell him, that if something goes wrong between us, I'm leaving him for a younger man lol.

I've studied at an ivy league institution at one point, and there are LOTS of millionaires there. ONCE, I met this dude who used to mope because he was a millionaire and his neighbors were billionaires. lol

 

[Kirbypuff]

What about polytheism?

Eh, I don't remember. The point of the seminar was that jihad ppl were not insane.

 

[WVUPharm2007]

What was your philosophy again? existentialism? fatalism? dontcarism?

**** if I know...I call it existential stoicism...maybe some dude already came up a better description.

There are some religions that have multitudes of books that put their faith under critical analysis and you'd be surprised that they are logical. I would used to think that agnostics have the most open-minded/critical thought about the matter of God, until I picked up an advanced probability book in some annex of Olin Library in Ithaca, NY, and I read that there is a 97% probability that God does exist. (I read that while procrastinating for a research project 😀) So while I am open to the idea that there is a 3% chance that God does not exist, and also my personal belief that there is a .00000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance that gravity does not exist, I'm going to lean towards God exists, and gravity definitely exists. And while both God and gravity can kill me, my fear in God is exponentially greater because gravity may kill me once, but God can kill me an infinite number of times.

Yes. Statistics based upon abstract ideas. That sounds incredibly reliable. My first problem with the idea of a deity is the insistence of plurality. People claim that the universe had to have been created...by something...but when asked what created this something...the excuse is that said something is living outside of the rules of the universe. I don't buy it. If a deity can just be...then why can't the universe just be.

If you went to school in the U.S. since age 4 and graduated college and then moved to an Islamic country for 21 years and THEN came back to crash a plane into a building, THEN you are an idiot. But if you were born and raised in an Islamic country and performed jihad, you might be.... just a brazen fanatic of your super fundamental sector of your faith.

And I was raised in WV. I suppose I could see your point...though that doesn't excuse the intelligent people in this country.

 

[WVUPharm2007]

Eh, I don't remember. The point of the seminar was that jihad ppl were not insane.

Mother**** they aren't. Good thing I wasn't there, I'd have slapped that stupid ass academic across the room for being so stupid.

 

[WVUPharm2007]

Their parents were.

Their birth years were '86, '84, '85, '85. Yep, in that order.

I've studied at an ivy league institution at one point, and there are LOTS of millionaires there. ONCE, I met this dude who used to mope because he was a millionaire and his neighbors were billionaires. lol

Ok...so you've dated zero millionaires. Just a bunch of rich kids whose PARENTS were millionaires.

I don't trust anyone whose parents ever at any point bought them a car. That's the line for me between rich kid and the rest of us. I'm convinced that the vast majority in that group are oblivious to actually life. It's the type of thing that makes me hope for an apocalypse of some sort. I'd love to watch these dummys try to farm or fix a car. Like the aforementioned nutjob with the purse on the car. How ****ing stupid and easily controlled can you really be? What the hell set of circumstances leads a person to think its a perfectly normal thing to drop $80k on a car and $2000 on a ****ing purse? I drive a Ford Taurus and keep a $10 wallet I bought on sale. I just can't fathom any of it. At all. Any time a see a human being wearing a shirt that cost more than like $40, I pretty much just see a damned fool.

That's why Warren Buffett is awesome.

 

[Old Timer]

Who gives two ***** what anyone believes. It's how they act that counts. Who cares if they believe in God. I only care that they act responsibly. What they believe is between them and God.

 

[Kirbypuff]

Yes. Statistics based upon abstract ideas. That sounds incredibly reliable. My first problem with the idea of a deity is the insistence of plurality. People claim that the universe had to have been created...by something...but when asked what created this something...the excuse is that said something is living outside of the rules of the universe. I don't buy it. If a deity can just be...then why can't the universe just be.

What do you mean by plurality?

The universe was not created... it was always there? I learned this in honors 6th grade math... right before I was shipped off to a country with a hyper-masculine society and was traumatized... so this is very poignant to me. The universe is the big box where everything exists inside or is of. Are you confusing this with people who say that God created "the world"? God did not create the "universe" because the word "universe" itself means that it would encompass God. Last I read, the Bible said God created... the world. Check it God did NOT create the universe. And the world would probably be Earth and every star and space visible from Earth.

 

[FarscapeGirl]

Ok...so you've dated zero millionaires. Just a bunch of rich kids whose PARENTS were millionaires.

I don't trust anyone whose parents ever at any point bought them a car. That's the line for me between rich kid and the rest of us. I'm convinced that the vast majority in that group are oblivious to actually life. It's the type of thing that makes me hope for an apocalypse of some sort. I'd love to watch these dummys try to farm or fix a car. Like the aforementioned nutjob with the purse on the car. How ****ing stupid and easily controlled can you really be? What the hell set of circumstances leads a person to think its a perfectly normal thing to drop $80k on a car and $2000 on a ****ing purse? I drive a Ford Taurus and keep a $10 wallet I bought on sale. I just can't fathom any of it. At all. Any time a see a human being wearing a shirt that cost more than like $40, I pretty much just see a damned fool.

That's why Warren Buffett is awesome.

To a certain point, when you spend more, you can get better quality. I've bought plenty of cheap purses, around $15 or so, and they are fine, but they don't last very long. But when I get a leather purse, around $100 or so, they last a really long time.

At some point, though, instead of paying for quality, you're just paying for the brand name, which is just ridiculous. I've heard that the really expensive purses can have nice details (better matching outsides; slightly better stitching), but none of these will really affect how long it lasts.

Of course, this applies to more than purses. I'm just using that as an example to show that spending a little more is not always ridiculous. I try to buy quality when I can (another example: wood furniture instead of particle board), and then keep it for as long as possible.

 

[FarscapeGirl]

What do you mean by plurality?

The universe was not created... it was always there? I learned this in honors 6th grade math... right before I was shipped off to a country with a hyper-masculine society and was traumatized... so this is very poignant to me. The universe is the big box where everything exists inside or is of. Are you confusing this with people who say that God created "the world"? God did not create the "universe" because the word "universe" itself means that it would encompass God. Last I read, the Bible said God created... the world. Check it God did NOT create the universe. And the world would probably be Earth and every star and space visible from Earth.

So where'd God come from?

 

[WVUPharm2007]

What do you mean by plurality?

The universe was not created... it was always there? I learned this in honors 6th grade math... right before I was shipped off to a country with a hyper-masculine society and was traumatized... so this is very poignant to me. The universe is the big box where everything exists inside or is of. Are you confusing this with people who say that God created "the world"? God did not create the "universe" because the word "universe" itself means that it would encompass God. Last I read, the Bible said God created... the world. Check it God did NOT create the universe. And the world would probably be Earth and every star and space visible from Earth.

Well...Plurality...meaning that no matter what, the explanation ends in a situation where something is, as the New Christian Testament claims, the alpha and the omega...which in the case of said religion would be Yahweh...however, I ask, why would a deity be needed to pluralize the universe. Why can the universe just not be?

But here you claim that the deity just created the world...which is ridiculous to me...of course, back then the concept of "universe" was not yet imagined. The "world", in fact, was the known universe to them. If there is no concept of universe...then how could a sheep herder from wherever back in one-hundred-dickity-do write about it? (I enjoy ending approximate dates with "dickity-do".)

 

[PharmDstudent]

Our myers-briggs personalities are considered perfect for each other.

Socionics is waaayyyy better for interpersonal relationships.
It puts Ps with Ps and Js with Js, because of their natural patterns of decision making.

Myers-briggs says that I should be with another F, either ESFJ or ENFJ, since I'm an INFP, but frankly, it's just so screwy to me. I can't stand ESJFs, and the ENFJs that I've known always try to stir up trouble while being manipulative.


My boyfriend is an INTP. We do ok together, but lately, things have been kinda rocky.

 

[Kirbypuff]

I'd love to watch these dummys try to farm or fix a car. Like the aforementioned nutjob with the purse on the car. How ****ing stupid and easily controlled can you really be? What the hell set of circumstances leads a person to think its a perfectly normal thing to drop $80k on a car and $2000 on a ****ing purse? I drive a Ford Taurus and keep a $10 wallet I bought on sale. I just can't fathom any of it. At all. Any time a see a human being wearing a shirt that cost more than like $40, I pretty much just see a damned fool.

Maybe she has a lot of money to spend beyond her essentials. She's helping the economy. (the French and the Japanese, but still, world economy) What is she supposed to spend her extra $82,000 on? 8,200 $10 wallets? 3 Ford Tauruses? I bought 2 $90 kenneth cole shirts for $20 each. Am I a damned fool?

That's why Warren Buffett is awesome.

And who the hell is this Warren Buffett you keep talking about?

 

[rphello]

And who the hell is this Warren Buffett you keep talking about?

He's too old for you, don't worry.

 

[PharmDstudent]

But that's because you're a GUY, probably a Thinker. Girls generally are emotional Feelers. I base a lot of my decisions on my feelings instead of logic which makes me require a smarter mate who will understand that my illogical choices are just emotion based and they don't mean that I'm a complete *****. Although, I suppose that is arguable.

WVU tested to be an ENTJ. I'll always remember that, because my bff is an ENTJ and Keirsey's theory says that ENTJs or ESTJs and INFPs are perfect for each other.

I don't buy the P + J combos, though, because things can be pretty awkward if you're mixing a judger with a perceiver.

Socionics actually says that ENTJs are the supervisors of INFPs, but that wouldn't go over very well with me in terms of having a romatic relationship, because I don't want to be "supervised" by my mate.


Anyway... I've been aware of personality types and typology, in general, since my mother introduced it to me whenever I was 13. We've been through Myers-Briggs, Keirsey, and Socionics, and Socionics seems to be the most accurate for interpersonal relationships.

 

[PharmDstudent]

And who the hell is this Warren Buffett you keep talking about?

He's one of the richest men alive.

 

[Kirbypuff]

Well...Plurality...meaning that no matter what, the explanation ends in a situation where something is, as the New Christian Testament claims, the alpha and the omega...which in the case of said religion would be Yahweh...however, I ask, why would a deity be needed to pluralize the universe. Why can the universe just not be?

You lost me at plurality. ( . .) Remember, my IQ is only 135... not beyond 150 like yourself. Dumb it down for me please.

But here you claim that the deity just created the world...which is ridiculous to me...of course, back then the concept of "universe" was not yet imagined. The "world", in fact, was the known universe to them. If there is no concept of universe...then how could a sheep herder from wherever back in one-hundred-dickity-do write about it? (I enjoy ending approximate dates with "dickity-do".)

How do you know if there weren't people with IQ 3000 back then compared to our generation? Perhaps they were limited in tools that humans have garnered from generation to generation to write down their thoughts on lasting material. How do you know if God didn't walk around Earth and chill with them and tell them what's up? But for the average person of 100 dickity do, they probably had a lot of time to sit and think. I wouldn't be surprised if many people thought that perhaps there was something more than what they could see with their eyes.

EDIT: Also, I think the Bible is translated.... I don't know if there is a Hebrew word for "universal"... perhaps I should ask a Jewish friend...

Socionics is waaayyyy better for interpersonal relationships.
It puts Ps with Ps and Js with Js, because of their natural paterns of decision making.

Myers-briggs says that I should be with another F, either ESFJ or ENFJ, since I'm an INFP, but frankly, it's just so screwy to me. I can't stand ESJFs, and the ENFJs that I've known always try to stir up trouble while being manipulative.


My boyfriend is an INTP. We do ok together, but lately, things have been kinda rocky.

I'm E/INFJ... and you hate me!! :cry: wahhhhh... (I'm only introverted when I'm moody)

Oh my bf is ISTJ which makes us a duality couple 🙂 I guess I interchanged Myers-Briggs with socionics.

To a certain point, when you spend more, you can get better quality. I've bought plenty of cheap purses, around $15 or so, and they are fine, but they don't last very long. But when I get a leather purse, around $100 or so, they last a really long time.

At some point, though, instead of paying for quality, you're just paying for the brand name, which is just ridiculous. I've heard that the really expensive purses can have nice details (better matching outsides; slightly better stitching), but none of these will really affect how long it lasts.

Of course, this applies to more than purses. I'm just using that as an example to show that spending a little more is not always ridiculous. I try to buy quality when I can (another example: wood furniture instead of particle board), and then keep it for as long as possible.

Oooh! I totally agree. There used to be a difference between $20 jeans and $60 jeans, but anything beyond $60 is just pure prestige pricing. But now a days, $20 jeans are starting to become nicer and trendier. So now I never pay more than that anymore.

So where'd God come from?

I don't know... the end of the rainbow... that he created. ( ' ')

 

[rphello]

He's one of the richest men alive.

What's remarkable is he spent his entire life accumulating billions of dollars, and now he's giving most of it away. Bill Gates is doing the same.

 

[ffpickle]

Goodness gracious.

How is this thread 5 pages long?

But I thought the size of the thread doesn't matter?

 

[SHC1984]

I've been a long time lurker on my brother's laptop but I thought I'd chime in.

SHC and Kirbypuff, what makes you two so special that you can hold such high standards on a guy? Maybe you two should not go to pharmacy school and look for Mr. Perfect now since your best window or opportunity is between 18-29 years of age. Even if you do find Mr. Perfect, why would he choose you when there are plenty of other girls he can choose instead of you? I guess I just don't understand this feeling of entitlement that you two have because I've seen your facebook photos (accessible from your pharmacy school FB groups) and you two are very average looking for someone your age. Growing up, I knew a brother of a famous movie director and he was around gold-digging women ALL the time and neither of you two fit the bill. I knew someone exactly like you two and she ended up settling at 38 with someone who possessed very little of what she was seeking all her life.

Oh, and an IQ of 150? LMAO, that's like 1 in a 1,000 people before accounting for those other requirements. Seriously, good luck with that one. 🙄

No one can see my facebook profile unless they are on my friends list. Only my friends can search for me and see me, so nice try. 🙄 The only person on SDN that knows my identity is Passion4Sci.

 

[Kirbypuff]

He's too old for you, don't worry.

lol

WVU tested to be an ENTJ. I'll always remember that, because my bff is an ENTJ and Keirsey's theory says that ENTJs or ESTJs and INFPs are perfect for each other.

I don't buy the P + J combos, though, because things can be pretty awkward if you're mixing a judger with a perceiver.

Socionics actually says that ENTJs are the supervisors of INFPs, but that wouldn't go over very well with me in terms of having a romatic relationship, because I don't want to be "supervised" by my mate.


Anyway... I've been aware of personality types and typology, in general, since my mother introduced it to me whenever I was 13. We've been through Myers-Briggs, Keirsey, and Socionics, and Socionics seems to be the most accurate for interpersonal relationships.

See! I knew he was thinker yay! (I like being right 🙄)

I started obsessing over this stuff my freshman year in college.... when I started by voyage of switching majors... until I landed on pharmacy 😀.

Yea, I definitely agree with you that Socionics has the best interpersonal relationships....... But their descriptions of personality types is the most jaded thing ever.

 

[SHC1984]

HAHAHA YEA you've seen my photo you ****ing tart. My FB is private and I'm not friends with anybody from Texas and my fb photo is a group of girls so which one am I you lying ashsole. I don't use the glamor shot on my fb profile anymore so I don't get anymore friend requests from losers like you. I just tried to search for SHC on Mercer, their fb group is closed. Honestly, I BET you you're a fugly little bítch. Don't take your rejected ass hurt feelings out on us.

I was just thinking the same thing, either he is an ugly guy that can't get laid or an ugly chick that can't get a date.

 

[PharmDstudent]

You lost me at plurality. ( . .) Remember, my IQ is only 135... not beyond 150 like yourself. Dumb it down for me please.


How do you know if there weren't people with IQ 3000 back then compared to our generation? Perhaps they were limited in tools that humans have garnered from generation to generation to write down their thoughts on lasting material. How do you know if God didn't walk around Earth and chill with them and tell them what's up? But for the average person of 100 dickity do, they probably had a lot of time to sit and think. I wouldn't be surprised if many people thought that perhaps there was something more than what they could see with their eyes.



I'm E/INFJ... and you hate me!! :cry: wahhhhh... (I'm only introverted when I'm moody)

Oh my bf is ISTJ which makes us a duality couple 🙂 I guess I interchanged Myers-Briggs with socionics.

Haha! Funny... Yeah, no harm and no foul, but extraverted, judging Feelers get on my nerves! They're too traditional sometimes for even tradition's sake. Bleh, bleh, bleh. 😛

My aunt and neighbor are ENFJs.

INFPs are said to be activity partners with ISTJs. I believe my grandpa and boss are ISTJs. Once you prove that you are competent and capable in addition to sweet, caring, loving, etc. to an ISTJ, they can become very sincere and will really trust you and have faith in you. It's a nice feeling.


Anyway... It's good to hear that you've found a duality partner that you can see yourself with in the future. My partner is supposed to be an ESTP, and boy oh boy, those guys are playas. 😎 Oh well... at least I know how to be a challenge. 😉


Nice chatting about typology. So few people understand it that it's a breath of fresh air to be able to talk about it in conversation. 🙂

 

[PharmDstudent]

their descriptions of personality types is the most jaded thing ever.

You're right. Some of it's really cynical, unfortunately.

 

[SHC1984]

To a certain point, when you spend more, you can get better quality. I've bought plenty of cheap purses, around $15 or so, and they are fine, but they don't last very long. But when I get a leather purse, around $100 or so, they last a really long time.

At some point, though, instead of paying for quality, you're just paying for the brand name, which is just ridiculous. I've heard that the really expensive purses can have nice details (better matching outsides; slightly better stitching), but none of these will really affect how long it lasts.

Of course, this applies to more than purses. I'm just using that as an example to show that spending a little more is not always ridiculous. I try to buy quality when I can (another example: wood furniture instead of particle board), and then keep it for as long as possible.

A Louis Vuitton bag goes up in value every 6 months to a year. For example the Multicolor Speedy 30 was $1500 5 years ago (how much I paid for it) and now its worth $2200 dollars. So if I took good care of my Speedy 30, which I always do, I can resell it for 1700 or 1800 dollars and make 200 or 300 dollars back. A Louis is worth every penny.

 

[ffpickle]

Haha! Funny... Yeah, no harm and no foul, but extraverted, judging Feelers get on my nerves! They're too traditional sometimes for even tradition's sake. Bleh, bleh, bleh. 😛

My aunt and neighbor are ENFJs.

INFPs are said to be activity partners with ISTJs. I believe my grandpa and boss are ISTJs. Once you prove that you are competent and capable in addition to sweet, caring, loving, etc. to an ISTJ, they can become very sincere and will really trust you and have faith in you. It's a nice feeling.


Anyway... It's good to hear that you've found a duality partner that you can see yourself with in the future. My partner is supposed to be an ESTP, and boy oh boy, those guys are playas. 😎 Oh well... at least I know how to be a challenge. 😉


Nice chatting about typology. So few people understand it that it's a breath of fresh air to be able to talk about it in conversation. 🙂

You guys hurted my brains 🙁

 

[SHC1984]

Going dutch isn't equivalent to having a girl being your doormat, it is about mutual respect and partnership. Many women have high expectations. You seem to think that high standards=lots of money. But many women have standards in their men that cannot be printed at the Federal Reserve. In other words, they are not for sale. The stock you offer can be found in the Yellow Pages or the NYSE. The stock these women offer can only be paid for by actions and it grows in value over time. Your stock is continually deteriorating. Perhaps the men you have been with do not respect you. You can be bought and paid for, just like any other expendable material possessions. In other words, you are a piece of meat. Why would you assume I am interested in a desperate girl? When I am married, I frankly want my wife to control every last penny I earn but until then, I won't pay someone for their "time." If you need to be paid for your time, then it means it must seem like work to be with that person. Frankly, that is pretty disrespectful to your partner.

What makes you think I can be bought? Throughout this thread I have said MANY times that I don't expect gifts or a guy to buy me things at all. However, paying for a date is just something a guy should do, you know kinda like opening the door for her, pulling out her chair, letting her order first or you order for the both of you, opening the car door, picking her up at her place, dropping her back off, walk her back, and PAYING FOR DINNER. You know its called being a genlemen. I guess you never heard of the term. 🙄
Going DUTCH? Thats only for desperate woman that can't find a date so they will settle for anyone. Not to mention only really cheap/stingy guys will go dutch. I mean what will happen if your date orders a 20 dollar dinner and 2 glasses of wine and you order a 14 dollar dinner and 1 glass of wine??? what are you going to do??? DEMAND that she pay you in CASH or CHECK the difference after you guys split the bill 50/50? And what if she didn't have any cash on her and no check? What are you going to do? demand that she mail you a check ASAP?
God, men like you are so cheap its a joke.

 

[Kirbypuff]

Haha! Funny... Yeah, no harm and no foul, but extraverted, judging Feelers get on my nerves! They're too traditional sometimes for even tradition's sake. Bleh, bleh, bleh. 😛

My aunt and neighbor are ENFJs.

INFPs are said to be activity partners with ISTJs. I believe my grandpa and boss are ISTJs. Once you prove that you are competent and capable in addition to sweet, caring, loving, etc. to an ISTJ, they can become very sincere and will really trust you and have faith in you. It's a nice feeling.


Anyway... It's good to hear that you've found a duality partner that you can see yourself with in the future. My partner is supposed to be an ESTP, and boy oh boy, those guys are playas. 😎 Oh well... at least I know how to be a challenge. 😉


Nice chatting about typology. So few people understand it that it's a breath of fresh air to be able to talk about it in conversation. 🙂

Yea!! I'm trying to get my girlfriends hooked on it, and I realized we're all a bunch of FJ's (you'd hate us all lol). I think maybe that's why our friendships lasted since high school. ENJF, INFJ, ESFJ, ISFJ. Those are the girls.


Your ESTP is out there somewhere! Get really picky and pray for him! cus okay, when I used to volunteer at my local senior center in hs, I met this middle-aged woman who worked there. When I was having problems with my then recent ex-bf, she told me about how she met her husband. She said that when she was 18, she prayed really hard for her husband and a few weeks later she met him and as soon as she saw him for the first time, she knew in her heart that he was "hers", that he was the one. And exactly 3 weeks later they got married. And I know this story is crazy, but I met her husband a few months after she told me her story and they were hugging each other side to side, smiling ear to ear and they go, "she's mine" and "he's mine." Cutest thing ever. And of course, I didn't give the prayer thing a try right away. I went back and forth with that same ex bf before I gave the prayer thing a try.... when I was 18, I prayed that the next guy that I dated (like a real relationship) would be the person I marry... and then I met someone "?".... who I became infatuated with for like 19 months.... every time I prayed to God for my husband, "?" would call me...but things were frustrating because we weren't really dating but and I got sick of him leading me on and back and forth so then I started seeing the 4 "millionaire's kids" nothing official... and I then I met my ISTJ... who happens to have the same name as the the "?" guy. Weird, cus that's when "?" came back to me and I had to choose between "?" and ISTJ... and I'm so freakin' glad I chose ISTJ. OH, I didn't even know his personality was ISTJ until like two months ago lol. So I "knew" from the beginning that ISTJ was supposed to be my husband... but obviously, he thought I was crazy when we first started dating because he's extremely practical and takes everything step by step. But now, as we spent the past 3½ years together, he says more and more he knows he's going to marry me. 🙂 I was all about faith, and he was all about practicality. Crazy right?

A Louis Vuitton bag goes up in value every 6 months to a year. For example the Multicolor Speedy 30 was $1500 5 years ago (how much I paid for it) and now its worth $2200 dollars. So if I took good care of my Speedy 30, which I always do, I can resell it for 1700 or 1800 dollars and make 200 or 300 dollars back. A Louis is worth every penny.

Now that's what I call an business woman 😉

You guys hurted my brains 🙁

LOL

 

[ffpickle]

What makes you think I can be bought? Throughout this thread I have said MANY times that I don't expect gifts or a guy to buy me things at all. However, paying for a date is just something a guy should do,

Do you have some type of personality disorder? Or are you just delusional?

you know kinda like opening the door for her, pulling out her chair, letting her order first or you order for the both of you, opening the car door, picking her up at her place, dropping her back off, walk her back,

+1

and PAYING FOR DINNER.

You know its called being a genlemen. I guess you never heard of the term. 🙄

I'm a perfect gentleman and have been told so many times over. Although, it is much easier when I'm dealing with a lady....ever heard of that?

Going DUTCH? Thats only for desperate woman that can't find a date so they will settle for anyone.

You are seriously delusional. What planet are you living on? Only a guy who is insecure will empty his wallet on your every need, hoping you like him. Does it occur to you that these "desperate" women you refer to care more about charm and sincerity than credit cards? That is hardly settling.

Not to mention only really cheap/stingy guys will go dutch. I mean what will happen if your date orders a 20 dollar dinner and 2 glasses of wine and you order a 14 dollar dinner and 1 glass of wine??? what are you going to do??? DEMAND that she pay you in CASH or CHECK the difference after you guys split the bill 50/50? And what if she didn't have any cash on her and no check? What are you going to do? demand that she mail you a check ASAP?
God, men like you are so cheap its a joke.

Split the bill 50/50? No....we each pay our own bill. Unless this is Date #1, Date #2, or a special occasion, we're going dutch. Either that, or the aforementioned scenario of me taking the whole bill one time and her another time. It's called mutual respect. You just make up absurd scenarios, type in caps locks and use a lot of eccentric punctuation, and after all that, you think you've made a good point.

 

[PharmDstudent]

You guys hurted my brains 🙁

It's not really that bad. Basically, everyone can test into 1 of 16 different combinations. Once a person falls into 1 of the categories, then it is assumed that they will function as that personality "type" and should interact with others based on their "type".
Sure, no two people are exactly alike, and nurture can play a role in terms of variance, but overall, "types" will interact with other "types" in specific ways.


Typology is not meant to predict minute things like a person's favorite color or if they like their steak well-done, but it can give way to patterns of activity and predict whether or not two or more people will be able to function in a relationship based on their "types".

 

[ffpickle]

It's not really that bad. Basically, everyone can test into 1 of 16 different combinations. Once a person falls into 1 of the categories, then it is assumed that they will function as that personality "type" and should interact with others based on their "type".
Sure, no two people are exactly alike, and nurture can play a role in terms of variance, but overall, "types" will interact with other "types" in specific ways.


Typology is not meant to predict minute things like a person's favorite color or if they like their steak well-done, but it can give way to patterns of activity and predict whether or not two or more people will be able to function in a relationship based on their "types".

Ahhh okies....Thanks.....

I still can't sort out the whole Type A Type B crap. Never did take a psych class...

 

[SHC1984]

Do you have some type of personality disorder? Or are you just delusional?



+1



I'm a perfect gentleman and have been told so many times over. Although, it is much easier when I'm dealing with a lady....ever heard of that?


You are seriously delusional. What planet are you living on? Only a guy who is insecure will empty his wallet on your every need, hoping you like him. Does it occur to you that these "desperate" women you refer to care more about charm and sincerity than credit cards? That is hardly settling.

Split the bill 50/50? No....we each pay our own bill. Unless this is Date #1, Date #2, or a special occasion, we're going dutch. Either that, or the aforementioned scenario of me taking the whole bill one time and her another time. It's called mutual respect. You just make up absurd scenarios, type in caps locks and use a lot of eccentric punctuation, and after all that, you think you've made a good point.

why are you calling me delusional b/c you can't read? 🙄 When did I ever say a guy needs to empty his wallet? When did I ever say a guy needs to buy me something? once again you can't read. Paying for dates isn't emptying out your wallet at all spending $60 dollars on dinner and $20 dollars at the movies is hardly emptying out your wallet by any means. Perfect gentlemens are cheap now? Who on this earth would ever call someone as stingy as you a gentlemen? Your mother maybe, but I highly doubt anyone else would. I think you are the one thats delusional, just b/c you can't come up with a good reason why you think my expectations are wrong, I guess the best thing for you to do to stroke your ego is by calling me delusional. Nice try!

 

[PharmDstudent]

Yea!! I'm trying to get my girlfriends hooked on it, and I realized we're all a bunch of FJ's (you'd hate us all lol). I think maybe that's why our friendships lasted since high school. ENJF, INFJ, ESFJ, ISFJ. Those are the girls.


Your ESTP is out there somewhere! Get really picky and pray for him! cus okay, when I used to volunteer at my local senior center in hs, I met this middle-aged woman who worked there. When I was having problems with my then recent ex-bf, she told me about how she met her husband. She said that when she was 18, she prayed really hard for her husband and a few weeks later she met him and as soon as she saw him for the first time, she knew in her heart that he was "hers", that he was the one. And exactly 3 weeks later they got married. And I know this story is crazy, but I met her husband a few months after she told me her story and they were hugging each other side to side, smiling ear to ear and they go, "she's mine" and "he's mine." Cutest thing ever. And of course, I didn't give the prayer thing a try right away. I went back and forth with that same ex bf before I gave the prayer thing a try.... when I was 18, I prayed that the next guy that I dated (like a real relationship) would be the person I marry... and then I met someone "?".... who I became infatuated with for like 19 months.... every time I prayed to God for my husband, "?" would call me...but things were frustrating because we weren't really dating but and I got sick of him leading me on and back and forth so then I started seeing the 4 "millionaire's kids" nothing official... and I then I met my ISTJ... who happens to have the same name as the the "?" guy. Weird, cus that's when "?" came back to me and I had to choose between "?" and ISTJ... and I'm so freakin' glad I chose ISTJ. OH, I didn't even know his personality was ISTJ until like two months ago lol. So I "knew" from the beginning that ISTJ was supposed to be my husband... but obviously, he thought I was crazy when we first started dating because he's extremely practical and takes everything step by step. But now, as we spent the past 3½ years together, he says more and more he knows he's going to marry me. 🙂 I was all about faith, and he was all about practicality. Crazy right?

Y'all sound like a really cute bunch of girl friends! 🙂

Most of my girlfriends from high school just so happen to be Feelers as well. Hmmm... 😛

Yeah. I really like those types of things, the strange little circumstances that can lead you along your path in life.

Here's a quick example: My grandfather was in church this Father's Day expecting my cousins and family to join him, so he sat in the middle of his usual pew, where he pulled out a Bible that was shelved with the hymnals. On the front of the Bible, I kid you not, was my name printed in the same gold lettering as the rest of the cover, and the copyright on the inside of the cover was from 1986. Basically, we believe that it was my old Bible from whenever I used to go to Sunday school as a child.
SO, my grandfather took it as a sign and called me Father's Day, but he had to leave a message (all right after I had been thinking of calling him). Then the next day, coincidentally, I ended up making plans to visit him after he called me back as I was on my way home to do business with my credit union.
I love my grandpa! 😍



Thanks for the ESTP good luck wishes! I hope he's out there, too.

 

[IrishHammer]

why are you calling me delusional b/c you can't read? 🙄 When did I ever say a guy needs to empty his wallet? When did I ever say a guy needs to buy me something? once again you can't read. Paying for dates isn't emptying out your wallet at all spending $60 dollars on dinner and $20 dollars at the movies is hardly emptying out your wallet by any means. Perfect gentlemens are cheap now? Who on this earth would ever call someone as stingy as you a gentlemen? Your mother maybe, but I highly doubt anyone else would. I think you are the one thats delusional, just b/c you can't come up with a good reason why you think my expectations are wrong, I guess the best thing for you to do to stroke your ego is by calling me delusional. Nice try!

But focusing on the wrong aspect of the date doesn't help. What's important is enjoying each other's company; the finance aspect of the date should be secondary to that. Once you start squabbling over something secondary, you lose sight of what's important, and can seriously handcuff your options that way. You might even miss out on Mr. Right.

It's like the whole B.A. argument. Whether or not someone has an extra piece of piece is really a secondary argument in comparison to how prepared they are for pharmacy school. If you demand everyone has a B.A., you have handcuffed your options and may potentially eliminate some very good students on a mere formality.

Jesus, what am I doing? Talking about schools and degrees? You'd think this thread was in some sort of pharmacy forum, the way I'm going off topic here.

 

[ffpickle]

why are you calling me delusional b/c you can't read? 🙄 When did I ever say a guy needs to empty his wallet? When did I ever say a guy needs to buy me something? once again you can't read. Paying for dates isn't emptying out your wallet at all spending $60 dollars on dinner and $20 dollars at the movies is hardly emptying out your wallet by any means. Perfect gentlemens are cheap now? Who on this earth would ever call someone as stingy as you a gentlemen? Your mother maybe, but I highly doubt anyone else would. I think you are the one thats delusional, just b/c you can't come up with a good reason why you think my expectations are wrong, I guess the best thing for you to do to stroke your ego is by calling me delusional. Nice try!

You've questioned my ability to read several times in this thread. Just because I refute something you say that is obviously stupid, it does not mean I can not read. Emptying one's wallet is a figurative expression. This does not mean he gives you his driver's license and Sears Card although I'm sure you'd love those too,...quick look up the resale value! Emptying the wallet means that he is unnecessarily spending on your selfish needs. Spending $80 a date is emptying my wallet. At 2 dates a week, this is $640 contributed by the man and $0.00 by the woman, per month. I am not cheap. I'll treat friends and family...and a girl if I feel like it but she should not expect it. You're not covering dinner. Aren't you the cheap one?

 

[SHC1984]

But focusing on the wrong aspect of the date doesn't help. What's important is enjoying each other's company; the finance aspect of the date should be secondary to that. Once you start squabbling over something secondary, you lose sight of what's important, and can seriously handcuff your options that way. You might even miss out on Mr. Right.

It's like the whole B.A. argument. Whether or not someone has an extra piece of piece is really a secondary argument in comparison to how prepared they are for pharmacy school. If you demand everyone has a B.A., you have handcuffed your options and may potentially eliminate some very good students on a mere formality.

Jesus, what am I doing? Talking about schools and degrees? You'd think this thread was in some sort of pharmacy forum, the way I'm going off topic here.

With the B.A. argument I would have to agree that a B.A. is not require for Pharmacy school b/c there are people without B.A. that are smarter/more qualified for pharmacy school. Bill Gates don't have a B.A. and thats just one example.

However, if a guy makes a girl pay for dinner, that is already saying that the guy don't really care if he impresses her or not b/c he doesn't really care what she thinks. He thinks he doesn't have to put any effort in the relationship. He can just sit back and have a girlfriend without lifting a finger. He wants all the benefits of having a girlfriend but doesn't want to work for any of it. Does that sound like Mr. Right to you?

 

[Kirbypuff]

Y'all sound like a really cute bunch of girl friends! 🙂

Most of my girlfriends from high school just so happen to be Feelers as well. Hmmm... 😛

Yeah. I really like those types of things, the strange little circumstances that can lead you along your path in life.

Here's a quick example: My grandfather was in church this Father's Day expecting my cousins and family to join him, so he sat in the middle of his usual pew, where he pulled out a Bible that was shelved with the hymnals. On the front of the Bible, I kid you not, was my name printed in the same gold lettering as the rest of the cover, and the copyright on the inside of the cover was from 1986. Basically, we believe that it was my old Bible from whenever I used to go to Sunday school as a child.
SO, my grandfather took it as a sign and called me Father's Day, but he had to leave a message (all right after I had been thinking of calling him). Then the next day, coincidentally, I ended up making plans to visit him after he called me back as I was on my way home to do business with my credit union.
I love my grandpa! 😍



Thanks for the ESTP good luck wishes! I hope he's out there, too.

=)

 

[SHC1984]

You've questioned my ability to read several times in this thread. Just because I refute something you say that is obviously stupid, it does not mean I can not read. Emptying one's wallet is a figurative expression. This does not mean he gives you his driver's license and Sears Card although I'm sure you'd love those too,...quick look up the resale value! Emptying the wallet means that he is unnecessarily spending on your selfish needs. Spending $80 a date is emptying my wallet. At 2 dates a week, this is $640 contributed by the man and $0.00 by the woman, per month. I am not cheap. I'll treat friends and family...and a girl if I feel like it but she should not expect it. You're not covering dinner. Aren't you the cheap one?

You haven't done any refuting at all. The only thing you have done this entire time was call me delusional and disagree with me, but I have yet to hear you tell me a actual REASON why what I am saying is unreasonable. I am kinda curious now b/c I have yet to get one refute from you that isn't just a personal insult to me to stroke your own ego. 🙄
Selfish needs??? OMG, you just PROVED to me and everyone on here that you are cheap. So its selfish for your date to eat? 😱

Wow you are the perfect gentlemen! So you are okay with paying for friends and family, but you won't pay for your date's dinner? I am sure your girlfriend will love the fact that your friends will always get treated better than her.

And you can't do math either? $80 dollars a date at 2 dates a week is only $160 dollars. Where did $640 come from? Emptying out someone's wallet means taking A LOT of money out of it. Nothing do to with drivers licenses or sears cards. Again nice try in trying to make me look unreasonable when you are the one that can't reason. 🙄