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What's the highest salary you've personally heard of for an associate general dentist and/or general dentist who owns his practice? Also, state what city the dentist works in. Please only answer if you knew the dentist from firsthand experiences.

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What's the highest salary you've personally heard of for an associate general dentist and/or general dentist who owns his practice? Also, state what city the dentist works in. Please only answer if you knew the dentist from firsthand experiences. I'm trying to make a survey for a statistics chart.
We have some ballers in our simlab (they are the older volunteering dentists, they come and help the DS1s and DS2). One of them has a practice that has 10 other dentists working in it (multiple specialties)... I don't know how much he makes a year, but it won't be less than 500k a year take-home.

Sisters friend has a general dentistry office that produces about 240k a month lol, they see about 90-100 pts a day. Obviously there is huge over-head, but still, 240k a month :eek:
 
We have some ballers in our simlab (they are the older volunteering dentists, they come and help the DS1s and DS2). One of them has a practice that has 10 other dentists working in it (multiple specialties)... I don't know how much he makes a year, but it won't be less than 500k a year take-home.

Sisters friend has a general dentistry office that produces about 240k a month lol, they see about 90-100 pts a day. Obviously there is huge over-head, but still, 240k a month :eek:

How many dentists are at your sister practice? And about how many years out of school is he or she?
 
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I shadowed my family ortho; who, has been in the game for about 17 years. He was open about his business model and finances. He said he works ~28-32 hrs per week and makes 350-400k/yr after business expenses. He also owned the medical building and said he collects additional revenue from that. He's done well!
 
It's threads like these that give starry eyed pre-dents the misconception that they'll be making 150k walking out of D school. :laugh:

I've met someone who claimed 400k and he is in Texas. He is in his 40's, pretty sure he was full of it (ego, not money).

I've met people making anywhere from 85k a year (practicing anywhere from 1-2 years out of D school, to 10-15 years out), to probably around 400k, with the normal being around 150k.
 
What's the highest salary you've personally heard of for an associate general dentist and/or general dentist who owns his practice? Also, state what city the dentist works in. Please only answer if you knew the dentist from firsthand experiences. I'm trying to make a survey for a statistics chart.

In northwest Oklahoma City, the nicer part of the 622 sq/mi capital, I worked with a dentist that bought a thriving practice with five chairs. This dentist does a lot of ortho and endo. She also just started doing minor bone grafts and implants. I can't remember exactly what she produces, but she told me she comfortably pays herself $350,000 per year. She works 4 days a week and takes about 5 weeks off every year.
 
I know a GP who makes over 400K, but he has a couple of practices that are pretty busy.

Also, i know a couple OMS that make well over a million dollars a year!!

Live in the greater Phoenix area.
 
Dentist in my home town makes 450k (2008 figure) take home, only one practice, about 4 hygienists.

All the other three are living in houses worth a mill or two on the lake. All own their own office, one has 3 offices. None of them are employees so their income will be dramatically more than figure you find on yahoo and crap like that. You can be an employee and have a standard pay scale or a business owner in which there is no limit and make money while out on the lake fishing.
 
Highest was near 300K take home (specialist), and the lowest was 45K. The first guy was more than 15 years out, and the second guy was 4 years out. Money-wise this career can really go either way huh?
 
Highest was near 300K take home (specialist), and the lowest was 45K. The first guy was more than 15 years out, and the second guy was 4 years out. Money-wise this career can really go either way huh?

$45K? Wow. I can easily make $65K as a hygienist now. Sheesh... I pray I never make that little. It would suck to go 4 years to have been better off before. Lol
 
$250k Texas area right out of school....if u r wondering how I believed that....well she is my sister in law...still paying her student loans as its been a year since she graduated fro DS.
 
$250k Texas area right out of school....if u r wondering how I believed that....well she is my sister in law...still paying her student loans as its been a year since she graduated fro DS.
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$250k Texas area right out of school....if u r wondering how I believed that....well she is my sister in law...still paying her student loans as its been a year since she graduated fro DS.

So family owned a practice, or corporate job with lots of hours?
 
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We all know baller dentists exist. But they usually have the following in common: very good at what they do, older, own practice, well into their career, spent a lot of time/blood/sweat/tears in CE classes, building practice, etc. I think of this as something to aspire to many years after finishing school.

On a side note, I'd be more interested to know the lowest salary y'all have heard of. I've heard of a guy making 70k in hyper-saturated Toronto (couldn't get full-time work).
 
We all know baller dentists exist. But they usually have the following in common: very good at what they do, older, own practice, well into their career, spent a lot of time/blood/sweat/tears in CE classes, building practice, etc. I think of this as something to aspire to many years after finishing school.

On a side note, I'd be more interested to know the lowest salary y'all have heard of. I've heard of a guy making 70k in hyper-saturated Toronto (couldn't get full-time work).

I know a general dentist who makes around 60K. He's young though. He's living on his wife's salary (a teacher) so he can pay off his loans and get on solid footing. He says he can't get loan repayment for some reason. That kinda surprised me.

Then again, the older guy I shadowed (like 50 yo) said he pulled down a solid 250K working 4 days a week. Unfortunately that number has gone down in the last couple years, but he seems confident it'll bounce back up.

I'd say you hit the nail on the head here. Older dentists are doing well in general, and newer dentists are a bit more hit and miss.
 
I love Texas. You can go to school for less and get a job or build a practice out in south or west texas and make great money. I know west texas is a gold mine.
 
I live in a rural area and I've shadowed 4 diff dentists in other rural areas and the one I live in and they all make over 300k.

Also shadowed a ortho with a partner and 6 offices and he makes an easy 1.5 mill a year.

Also my main dentist (mentor) told me one of his buddies started out making 200k as an associate in a big city around my area.
My dentist also just got an associate who he said made about 120k her first year even with being pregnant and getting sick after and being on leave for almost 2 months.
 
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I too know a couple OMS that make over a million a year. This is in Portland.
 
I know a general dentist who makes around 60K. He's young though. He's living on his wife's salary (a teacher) so he can pay off his loans and get on solid footing. He says he can't get loan repayment for some reason. That kinda surprised me.

Then again, the older guy I shadowed (like 50 yo) said he pulled down a solid 250K working 4 days a week. Unfortunately that number has gone down in the last couple years, but he seems confident it'll bounce back up.

I'd say you hit the nail on the head here. Older dentists are doing well in general, and newer dentists are a bit more hit and miss.

You salary depends on so many factors.

You've got to be good with patients to get them to come back to you. You can be the best dentist in the world, but if your patients don''t believe that, you are a bust. Patients don't care if you put enough retention grooves in your class 2 prep, nor do they care whether you used an I-bar or CC when you make their RPD. They just want something that looks good and works well. Having a good personality also helps a ton.

Second is what you learned in dental school. If you've never taken out a molar surgically while in dental school, chances are you probably won't feel comfortable when you are out either. I have noticed quite a bit of GPs that won't do any extractions because they never felt that they did enough while in dental school. Again, if you've never restored an anterior bone level implant in the esthetic zone while in dental school, you probably won't be doing that when you are out practicing either. A general rule of thumb is the more stuff you are capable of doing, the better income generating potential you have. Of course there is a limit as well: certain implant placements, surgical extraction of 3rds, mucogingival procedures, complicated endos are probably best referred to specialists in case you get in trouble.

Lastly, family/spouse situations can also play a big factor in your income. If you are married and your husband/wife had to be stationed in middle of nowhere, you probably will have to tag along as well. Chances are it may be tough for you to look for a good paying job in certain areas.
 
I would say the norm around my rural area is 230-240 for a salaried gp; double that if you own the practice. Most new grads are 140k with benefits from what they tell me. Also, most pride themselves on CC and also discuss it with patients and is on their website as well. If the dentist isn't there, the office lady with tell you they are away on a conference or in a CC course. I would say the best trait to be a great owner/dentist is to make sure your office staff are supper friendly/happy and you are a great sales person who can overcome objections or offer financing lol.
 
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talked to a guy the other day. just graduated d school from UMD in June. He gets 34% of what he bills(he is an associate) and he billed 76000 last month alone. So yeah, just graduated, making 26,000 a month. (this is in alaska if you are interested)
 
Wow great salaries here, I don't have as direct information but I know of a guy who my classmate used to work for as a dental assistant. This guy owns about 16 offices and makes well over a million a year.

He has a mansion castle house and he lives beside the only celebrity in our city.

Sorry I couldn't be more accurate in my numbers.
 
Dang now I really want to move to Alaska. My cousin says any profession makes double up there. I just want to work up there for 3 years and save. Get a house and a practice and pay cash.
 
Its opportunities like this ^^ and smart thinking that can get somebody Debt free in 2 years.

Just bring a goose down jacket and a few snuggies
 
Its opportunities like this ^^ and smart thinking that can get somebody Debt free in 2 years.

Just bring a goose down jacket and a few snuggies

A few of them lol. I'm going to invest in some heaters too. 40 below ain't no joke lol.
 
My dentist I shadowed and became friends with grossed 3.2 million in 2009. He did everything though. From braces to implants he almost never referred anything. Very confident and smart guy. In between patients he was always on his computer watching cases and reading journals. He was a guru in marketing. He would group people from areas a few hundred miles away and setup packages so they would all take a bus down and stay at a local hotel. Like a dental vacation they all loved it! Speaking a few languages also helped. In South Florida

-Matthew
 
My dentist I shadowed and became friends with grossed 3.2 million in 2009. He did everything though. From braces to implants he almost never referred anything. Very confident and smart guy. In between patients he was always on his computer watching cases and reading journals. He was a guru in marketing. He would group people from areas a few hundred miles away and setup packages so they would all take a bus down and stay at a local hotel. Like a dental vacation they all loved it! Speaking a few languages also helped. In South Florida

-Matthew

Wow lol that is awesome. He sounds like a cool guy!
 
The highest I have heard of is around 400k and know some others around 300k
 
The highest I know of is just over $700k gross take home. This person is a regular on local news show, therefore everyone knows who this person is. This person does a lot of high end cosmetic and restorative cases for people who don't blink an eye at the cost.
 
I shadowed a endodontist near my university and he says he rakes in about 1.2 million annually for the entire office.
 
I've heard of some GPs a little over 500k in the DC area.
 
I've heard of some GPs a little over 500k in the DC area.

Meh.... I've heard better. There was this GP who did not seem to give a hoot after her husband lost to a serious football(NFL) bet. Guess how much it was?
 
Meh.... I've heard better. There was this GP who did not seem to give a hoot after her husband lost to a serious football(NFL) bet. Guess how much it was?

100k? curious how well she does?
 
How much should I expect to make right out of ds?

corporate chain?----------
private office as associate?-----------
county clinic?--------
hospital clinic?------------
community clinic?---------

please provide city and state!
 
100k? curious how well she does?
Oh. I misread your question. Looks like someone here didn't do well on their RC.

I honestly don't know the exact quantities of how much she and her family cultivates. I can guarantee you that they live in place that requires stepping off a pedestal after enjoying the fruits of which their "tree of wealth, power, and humility" bear. The only problem with tree though, was that it wasn't enough to allow this particular dentist to bear enough ripe fruit of her own. I feel really sad for her and her husband. Even to this very day.:( :cry:
 
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Just realized I already posted here lol
 
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Its opportunities like this ^^ and smart thinking that can get somebody Debt free in 2 years.

Just bring a goose down jacket and a few snuggies

Yep, really any job in Alaska makes FAR more. I've seen offers for K-12 level teachers that paid $100k per year starting. Pharmacists 300k+ per year (normal is 110k). Dentist 300k per year as an associate isn't surprising at all. Very high demand up there!
 
4,000k (USD) down the drain. That right, four-thousand-kay. It was back in '08.

Do you mean $4,000

Or

$4,000,000 (because this is what $4,000k really means)... I am pretty sure I will be "giving a hoot" if my wife lost $4,000,000.

Unless you actually mean 4,000 Kelvin.
 
Do you mean $4,000

Or

$4,000,000 (because this is what $4,000k really means)... I am pretty sure I will be "giving a hoot" if my wife lost $4,000,000.

Unless you actually mean 4,000 Kelvin.
4,000k (USD) down the drain. That right, four-thousand-kay. It was back in '08.
It couldn't get anymore clearer than this.
 
My orthodontist back home makes about 4 million take home.
 
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know a GP who makes 700k
Know an endo who makes 600k
 
Why did you bring this stupid thread back to life
 
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I didnt make any money.
As a matter of fact, I'm in debt for quite some money..
 
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