When Making a School List - KEEP IN MIND OF DRESS CODE

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All of my peers are surprised whenever I bring this up. Dress code matters. Some schools enforce professional attire (dress shirt, tie) during lecture while others let you go in sweats. This is a MAJOR impact on student life that is often overlooked. Browsing through MSAR, a cursory glance makes me want to say that about half do and half don't have dress codes. Please correct me if I'm wrong (I would love to be wrong about this!!)
 
NotASerialKiller said:
I benched you for Jordan Howard, how does that feel?

Also are there actually US schools that have a dress code for lectures? That sounds completely insane to me, showing up sober should be more than enough
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*Cough cough* Mayo. *Cough cough* no beer sold after 9pm in Rochester.
 
NotASerialKiller said:
I benched you for Jordan Howard, how does that feel?

Also are there actually US schools that have a dress code for lectures? That sounds completely insane to me, showing up sober should be more than enough
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Yes. Rowan (DO, anyway) has a dress code. There aren't a ton of schools out there that do, but they are out there. My ability to show up to lecture in leggings or yoga pants....it helps. Lol
I've even heard LECOM even requires professional attire during gross lab.
 
Pretty sure Creighton has a strict dress code. I know a lot of schools have dress codes which are basically"don't look ridiculous" as opposed to "wear a dress security and tie"
 
related and sorry if it sounds ridiculous: when do medical students start wearing scrubs to campus? Do they do this at all? Is it weird to start doing that 1st year when its just book learning or not really?
 
toddgurley said:
related and sorry if it sounds ridiculous: when do medical students start wearing scrubs to campus? Do they do this at all? Is it weird to start doing that 1st year when its just book learning or not really?
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Not in MS1/MS2 unless you're going to be in an OR at some point. Different schools will have different cultures so perhaps it's fine at some schools, but no one at my school would show up in scrubs just to sit in class and the library unless perhaps they were shadowing in the OR or something. Especially during anatomy when scrubs are equated with gross lab, do NOT wear those scrubs around the school. Change before and after gross lab. Many hospitals/schools also have policies about when/where you can wear scrubs. Like at my current institution, the scrubs you get from the scrub machine absolutely cannot leave the premises.
 
Ismet said:
Not in MS1/MS2 unless you're going to be in an OR at some point. Different schools will have different cultures so perhaps it's fine at some schools, but no one at my school would show up in scrubs just to sit in class and the library unless perhaps they were shadowing in the OR or something. Especially during anatomy when scrubs are equated with gross lab, do NOT wear those scrubs around the school. Change before and after gross lab. Many hospitals/schools also have policies about when/where you can wear scrubs. Like at my current institution, the scrubs you get from the scrub machine absolutely cannot leave the premises.
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Also, you'll look like a tool.
 
I remember reading somewhere that there was an undergrad who wears a white coat to his lectures with Dr. [Last name].

Thanks - I was curious about scrubs because they are just comfy apparently.
 
TBH I'd actually appreciate a bit of an incentive to look nice. I always feel more awake, alert, and ready to be productive when I'm wearing nicer clothes as opposed to sweatpants and a sweatshirt. Not to mention it would probably drive my boyfriend crazy to see me get a bit dressed up every day.
 
Many dress codes are not enforced - I wouldnt put much weight on what you read in the student manual for this regard. you gottatalk to students.

My school, for example, has a dress code. Everyone rolls around in sweats and no one has had a violation in years.
 
There are MD schools that have dress codes????

I thought that this perversion was only at LECOM.

You're adult learners, for crying out loud!


toddgurley said:
All of my peers are surprised whenever I bring this up. Dress code matters. Some schools enforce professional attire (dress shirt, tie) during lecture while others let you go in sweats. This is a MAJOR impact on student life that is often overlooked. Browsing through MSAR, a cursory glance makes me want to say that about half do and half don't have dress codes. Please correct me if I'm wrong (I would love to be wrong about this!!)
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A friend of mine did her post-doc at Mayo; she told me of the weird rules that they have. Didn't know that they filtered down to the med school, though.

freak7 said:
The Mayo way is the Mayo way...
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Oh I understand that, and there's a reason for the "going into character" bit that dressing professionally is part of, but it shouldn't be at the preclinical years level. You're adults; you know what to do.


aldol16 said:
You're going to have a dress code eventually - whether you put it off 2 or 4 more years, it'll be there.
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Goro said:
Oh I understand that, and there's a reason for the "going into character" bit that dressing professionally is part of, but it shouldn't be at the preclinical years level. You're adults; you know what to do.
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You would think, wouldn't you.

I really don't see the big deal with a dress code.
 
Dress the part is a true statement. Dress well then you feel well. Dress down with sweats then you feel lazy and like crap. Also, historically everyone dressed very well, it has only been in the past I would say 40 years where people have started to wear sweats and just a bad attire and think it is acceptable to wear that in public. Obviously, now it is because that's how society has changed. But, when I see students on campus wear a big hoodie and sweats, it just feels weird, but normal at the same time. Also, when I wear those kinds of clothes, I, too, feel like a insignificant pile of crap.

Dress well, feel well!
 
BioTic said:
Dress the part is a true statement. Dress well then you feel well. Dress down with sweats then you feel lazy and like crap. Also, historically everyone dressed very well, it has only been in the past I would say 40 years where people have started to wear sweats and just a bad attire and think it is acceptable to wear that in public. Obviously, now it is because that's how society has changed. But, when I see students on campus wear a big hoodie and sweats, it just feels weird, but normal at the same time. Also, when I wear those kinds of clothes, I, too, feel like a insignificant pile of crap.

Dress well, feel well!
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I live more by the dress comfortably philosophy. Spending 12 hours at the school wearing something like jeans...god kill me. That would make me feel worse. Granted, I try to dress my leggings as nice as possible...always the hoodie though, I am always cold. I do feel better dressing nicely with the white coat. Now THAT makes you feel significant. (And i wear a dress with leggings for this..)
 
ciestar said:
I live more by the dress comfortably philosophy. Spending 12 hours at the school wearing something like jeans...god kill me. That would make me feel worse. Granted, I try to dress my leggings as nice as possible...always the hoodie though, I am always cold. I do feel better dressing nicely with the white coat. Now THAT makes you feel significant. (And i wear a dress with leggings for this..)
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You can dress nice and comfortably. Men seem to have more options than women, I think, so from a women's perspective I can understand. However, the point still stands, dressing nice make you feel better!
 
BioTic said:
You can dress nice and comfortably. Men seem to have more options than women, I think, so from a women's perspective I can understand. However, the point still stands, dressing nice make you feel better!
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Looking professional or nice as a woman is definitely not as easy. And some crap they sell really is uncomfortable! (But they sell it for it's aesthetic appeal.)
 
ciestar said:
Looking professional or nice as a woman is definitely not as easy. And some crap they sell really is uncomfortable! (But they sell it for it's aesthetic appeal.)
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Yea, I can tell. I'm a male, and it's pretty easy to dress well. We can wear some pants, tuck in a shirt, wear some shoes and that's it. I dress comfortably and with a good fit. However, I've seen women just dress soooooo uncomfortably. If I see a women dressed up like that.... I just think " she should go home wear some pajamas and take a nap" lol. That's just me, it makes me uncomfortable watching some people wear uncomfortable clothing.
 
BioTic said:
Yea, I can tell. I'm a male, and it's pretty easy to dress well. We can wear some pants, tuck in a shirt, wear some shoes and that's it. I dress comfortably and with a good fit. However, I've seen women just dress soooooo uncomfortably. If I see a women dressed up like that.... I just think " she should go home wear some pajamas and take a nap" lol. That's just me, it makes me uncomfortable watching some people wear uncomfortable clothing.
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I just think "whyyyyy" lol.
 
ciestar said:
I live more by the dress comfortably philosophy. Spending 12 hours at the school wearing something like jeans...god kill me. That would make me feel worse. Granted, I try to dress my leggings as nice as possible...always the hoodie though, I am always cold. I do feel better dressing nicely with the white coat. Now THAT makes you feel significant. (And i wear a dress with leggings for this..)
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tskiihii said:
10000000%. Leggings are a staple in my closet. Not wearing jeans if I don't have to and certainly not for 12hour days on the rare occasions I do.
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You guys don't think jeans are comfortable?! They're definitely not up to professional dress code standards. 😕 Sometimes I feel like the only woman in America who thinks that leggings are uncomfortable and embarrassing. They're skin tight and thin. I would never wear them anywhere outside of the gym. It's like going out in public with no pants on. I don't know how ya'll do it.
 
Cotterpin said:
You guys don't think jeans are comfortable?! They're definitely not up to professional dress code standards. 😕 Sometimes I feel like the only woman in America who thinks that leggings are uncomfortable and embarrassing. They're skin tight and thin. I would never wear them anywhere outside of the gym. It's like going out in public with no pants on. I don't know how ya'll do it.
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Legit never have. I remember hating jeans in like second grade, then went through a period from 6th grade-8th grade where I refused to wear them at all. After that, they'd last as long as the school day and I'd go straight into my pjs. At this point, I own one pair of
jeans and I think they'd be too big now.

But I dont feel that way. I know I have pants on. Lol
 
ciestar said:
Legit never have. I remember hating jeans in like second grade, then went through a period from 6th grade-8th grade where I refused to wear them at all. After that, they'd last as long as the school day and I'd go straight into my pjs. At this point, I own one pair of
jeans and I think they'd be too big now.

But I dont feel that way. I know I have pants on. Lol
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Leggings are really more like tights than pants. I wouldn't actually call them pants. Like, I don't think they were designed to be worn on their own.
 
BioTic said:
Dress the part is a true statement. Dress well then you feel well. Dress down with sweats then you feel lazy and like crap. Also, historically everyone dressed very well, it has only been in the past I would say 40 years where people have started to wear sweats and just a bad attire and think it is acceptable to wear that in public. Obviously, now it is because that's how society has changed. But, when I see students on campus wear a big hoodie and sweats, it just feels weird, but normal at the same time. Also, when I wear those kinds of clothes, I, too, feel like a insignificant pile of crap.

Dress well, feel well!
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No thanks. Spent the entirety of the M1/M2 studying in oversized sweatpants and t shirts. Did well in school, felt great.

ciestar said:
Looking professional or nice as a woman is definitely not as easy. And some crap they sell really is uncomfortable! (But they sell it for it's aesthetic appeal.)
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This doesn't make sense to me. Guys can pretty much only wear dress pants and a shirt with a tie. The only optional part is whether you're rocking a suit or not. Women can wear suits, dresses, skirts, sweaters, etc. I've seen classmates manage to look passably professional wearing just a nice looking sweater/dress thing over leggings.
 
Dress codes wouldn't even be a big deal. We don't have one at my school, but several students dress up anyway by wearing chinos or slacks, dress casual shirt, and leather shoes/dress belt. Someone has to set the bar for other students to follow, or else students will wear white coats over T-shirts if the faculty allow it.
 
Cotterpin said:
Leggings are really more like tights than pants. I wouldn't actually call them pants. Like, I don't think they were designed to be worn on their own.
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I have tights and I have leggings and there's a difference. Companies are making leggings now to be worn as pants...but im not going to argue if im "wearing pants" or not.

mcloaf said:
No thanks. Spent the entirety of the M1/M2 studying in oversized sweatpants and t shirts. Did well in school, felt great.



This doesn't make sense to me. Guys can pretty much only wear dress pants and a shirt with a tie. The only optional part is whether you're rocking a suit or not. Women can wear suits, dresses, skirts, sweaters, etc. I've seen classmates manage to look passably professional wearing just a nice looking sweater/dress thing over leggings.
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Which is generally what I do, a nice dress and leggings underneath. Suits are needed when they're needed but I don't find them remotely comfortable.
 
Cotterpin said:
You guys don't think jeans are comfortable?! They're definitely not up to professional dress code standards. 😕 Sometimes I feel like the only woman in America who thinks that leggings are uncomfortable and embarrassing. They're skin tight and thin. I would never wear them anywhere outside of the gym. It's like going out in public with no pants on. I don't know how ya'll do it.
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You buy the wrong ones if they are thin and skin tight. I used to wear jeans till I saw the light. I'm like ciestar now, not even sure where my one pair of jeans are.
 
tskiihii said:
You buy the wrong ones if they are thin and skin tight. I used to wear jeans till I saw the light. I'm like ciestar now, not even sure where my one pair of jeans are.
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So are you saying your leggings are baggy and not made of some kind of jersey knit fabric?
 
toddgurley said:
related and sorry if it sounds ridiculous: when do medical students start wearing scrubs to campus? Do they do this at all? Is it weird to start doing that 1st year when its just book learning or not really?
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If you wear scrubs before MS3 and you don't have anatomy lab that day, you will be regarded as a person who should be disliked, and you will deserve that judgement.
 
BioTic said:
Dress the part is a true statement. Dress well then you feel well. Dress down with sweats then you feel lazy and like crap. Also, historically everyone dressed very well, it has only been in the past I would say 40 years where people have started to wear sweats and just a bad attire and think it is acceptable to wear that in public. Obviously, now it is because that's how society has changed. But, when I see students on campus wear a big hoodie and sweats, it just feels weird, but normal at the same time. Also, when I wear those kinds of clothes, I, too, feel like a insignificant pile of crap.

Dress well, feel well!
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On the contrary, I would argue the opposite. Those who are comfortable are more relaxed and can maximize their performance. I took Step 1 looking like an actual hobo but was extremely comfortable, and ended up performing very well. Don't feel obligated to "dress for success" if you're one of those people who does better when you "Wal-Mart for all-star".
 
tskiihii said:
They aren't baggy, just not plastered on my skin, and they are made mostly of cotton and whatever else stretch material they mixed to that.
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😕 I actually looked up leggings on wikipedia and literally the first thing the entry says is, "Leggings are a type of skin-tight garment."
 
mistafab said:
Many dress codes are not enforced - I wouldnt put much weight on what you read in the student manual for this regard. you gottatalk to students.

My school, for example, has a dress code. Everyone rolls around in sweats and no one has had a violation in years.
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Ours were 100% enforced- we had paper shorts of shame for anyone that showed up to OMM lab in jeans, and not dressing properly for a guest speaker would get you taken aside. The rest of the time was casual, but when you were supposed to dress a certain way, you sure as hell were expected to follow through.
 
Mad Jack said:
Ours were 100% enforced- we had paper shorts of shame for anyone that showed up to OMM lab in jeans, and not dressing properly for a guest speaker would get you taken aside. The rest of the time was casual, but when you were supposed to dress a certain way, you sure as hell were expected to follow through.
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I don't see the problem here. The fact that people show up to things dressed inappropriately is exactly why dress codes exist.
 
I don't mind dressing up. I actually have a problem wearing sweatpants to school. That's why in my years of education, I have never wore sweatpants to school.
 
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