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Does anybody know where I can find out more about USN, like cost of attendance, class size, etc?
Where can I find information on USN?
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Class size: 50 for first year then on i believe 100+
cost of attendance: Dk.
cost of attendance: Dk.
USN is pretty hard to find anything about. I know that they missed the April accreditation deadline so I am still a little sketchy on sending them my 2ndary fee. Anyway so I called them to ask some questions. Here is what I found out.
Me: I know you missed the April accreditation deadline, how do we know that you'll be accredited?
USN: We are filling out the paper work now for the next deadline. I assure you we will be accredited by the time the 1st class graduates.
Me: What will the cost of tuition be?
USN: I don't know, we haven't worked out the final details on that yet.
Me: I'm a little worried to send you my supplemental fee. What happens if there is some glitch and you aren't able to enroll a class for 2011? Will we be able to get refunded for our fees to apply to you?
USN: There will be no glitches, we will enroll a class in 2011. Worst case scenario is if the building isn't finished. If thats the case, the 1st couple classes will be in the pharmacy building until the building is done.
Me: When is the dental building scheduled to be finished.
USN: We are supposed to move in in April
I didn't ask, but I have also heard that the initial class will be 50. I'm still a little sketchy on the whole situation, but I guess what is another $50 on top of the rest of the fees I've paid thus far.
If anyone else finds something out please update us!
Me: I know you missed the April accreditation deadline, how do we know that you'll be accredited?
USN: We are filling out the paper work now for the next deadline. I assure you we will be accredited by the time the 1st class graduates.
Me: What will the cost of tuition be?
USN: I don't know, we haven't worked out the final details on that yet.
Me: I'm a little worried to send you my supplemental fee. What happens if there is some glitch and you aren't able to enroll a class for 2011? Will we be able to get refunded for our fees to apply to you?
USN: There will be no glitches, we will enroll a class in 2011. Worst case scenario is if the building isn't finished. If thats the case, the 1st couple classes will be in the pharmacy building until the building is done.
Me: When is the dental building scheduled to be finished.
USN: We are supposed to move in in April
I didn't ask, but I have also heard that the initial class will be 50. I'm still a little sketchy on the whole situation, but I guess what is another $50 on top of the rest of the fees I've paid thus far.
If anyone else finds something out please update us!
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Here's a few things I learned today after attending USN's first informational session for the dental school held in South Jordan, Utah. Hopefully some of this will be helpful. It's late so I apologize for any grammar or punctation issues.
Dr. WIlliam Harmon Associate Dean of Admission performed our brief tour with approximately 10 people including his administrative assistance Amanda. He showed us around several rooms of the building used by the pharmacy and nursing students because the dental building is not completed. The dental building is adjacent to building we were in and is being built extremely fast. (I saw the building two months ago and it was barely a foundation and now it is all framed and will soon have windows for all five stories and 125,000 sq. ft.). I was impressed at the progress and speed of the construction. The style and architecture will match the buildings surrounding it which are very nice upscale business buildings. By all of the pictures and slides we saw, it is evident that it will be a cutting edge, state of the art facility (see usn.edu). The surrounding area is a new upscale business park in a nice suburb, 15 minutes outside of Salt Lake City. You definitely will not have to worry about your safety in this area. It is right off the main freeway that feeds the entire Wasatch Front (I-15 corridor). It will be very accessible and easy to get to and will be even more so once the construction and transit system are complete.
I was impressed with Dr. Harman's career and appointments over the past 24 years. He has been the Associate Dean for Student Services at U of P, Associate Dean for Students Services at Baylor, and Executive Associate Dean at UNLV. He has many other accomplishments noted on the website such as serving on the Commission on Dental Accreditation's Committee F and Director of the SELECT Program, dentistry's national student recruitment initiative. The concern of the school not gaining accreditation was quickly put to rest as he outlined the accreditation process and the successful committee they have in place with members who have years of experience and success in getting dental schools to pass accreditation. I honestly wasn't worried after he thoroughly discussed it.
Questions Answered:
Inaugural class size? 50 - 55, 60 at the very most.
Class sizes in future years? 80 - 84
Estimated Tuition as of today: $58,000 plus fees (ouch!)
Grading? No class ranking. No grades. Pass/not pass is used.
Any post graduate training (specialities). OMS, Endo, GPR and AEGD once the school has matured and is running smooth.
Block Schedule? Subjects are taught in blocks (approx. 2 - 3 weeks in length - which is what he showed). To pass you must achieve 90% or above in each section. Their are remediation days throughout the block to enable students extra time to gain competency if they do not meet the 90%. Remediation is also offered during summer breaks. Groups are tested. If your group scores 95% or higher you get 5% added to your individual score. This encourages collaboration and not competition.
Will they give preference to state residents? Pretty obvious, private school and no obligation to Utah residents. "We will choose the most qualified applicants who apply regardless of the state." Dr. Harman.
How many people have applied to the school so far? As of today approx. 784 applications have been received from AADSAS with 24 more AADSAS mailings to go. Dr. Harman said he was hoping to get at least 500 to 600 applicants total. At this rate it will double, triple or even more… I think this surprised us all.
When will they begin looking at applications? in a couple weeks. Dr. Harman said Interviews will probably begin in October and will be in full swing in November.
Interviews? The committee is still looking at how they will hold the interview process. Dr. Harman said they are looking at having a group activity as part of the process to look for those who are assertive and work well in groups. He definitely emphasized the importance of group collaboration.
Patients: They are working with the leadership of the surrounding cities and will do a lot of PR and advertising to provide an adequate patient pool for students. Students will be given business cards to give out to people who can't their own dental work. Dr. Harman said this model was used successfully at U of P.
Impression (my personal opinion):
Very impressed over all with the school, its vision, innovation and utilization of technology. Everything is brand new with the latest and greatest which is always nice. It was interesting to see the designs that are still being decided upon for the simulation lab and clinic. Very cutting edge and efficient with the student in mind. I was impressed by the innovative ideas in many areas. Dr. Harman even admitted that he thought about bringing the three year model from U of P to USN. I like Dr. Harman and feel like he and Dr. Buchanan (who have both worked together previously) have a proven track record of success and are great leaders and well respected for what they do in the field. I like the location. Situated near neighboring states that have no dental schools and near universities that put out many hungry predental students (the number of students applying thus far is evidence of this). I like the location in the valley and really like the block schedule. The price of tuition was high but to be expected these days.
WIth the innovation and vision they have i believe the school will quickly be successful and competitive, putting out future leaders in the field of dentistry. I was impressed and place it at the top of my list this app. cycle.
Dr. WIlliam Harmon Associate Dean of Admission performed our brief tour with approximately 10 people including his administrative assistance Amanda. He showed us around several rooms of the building used by the pharmacy and nursing students because the dental building is not completed. The dental building is adjacent to building we were in and is being built extremely fast. (I saw the building two months ago and it was barely a foundation and now it is all framed and will soon have windows for all five stories and 125,000 sq. ft.). I was impressed at the progress and speed of the construction. The style and architecture will match the buildings surrounding it which are very nice upscale business buildings. By all of the pictures and slides we saw, it is evident that it will be a cutting edge, state of the art facility (see usn.edu). The surrounding area is a new upscale business park in a nice suburb, 15 minutes outside of Salt Lake City. You definitely will not have to worry about your safety in this area. It is right off the main freeway that feeds the entire Wasatch Front (I-15 corridor). It will be very accessible and easy to get to and will be even more so once the construction and transit system are complete.
I was impressed with Dr. Harman's career and appointments over the past 24 years. He has been the Associate Dean for Student Services at U of P, Associate Dean for Students Services at Baylor, and Executive Associate Dean at UNLV. He has many other accomplishments noted on the website such as serving on the Commission on Dental Accreditation's Committee F and Director of the SELECT Program, dentistry's national student recruitment initiative. The concern of the school not gaining accreditation was quickly put to rest as he outlined the accreditation process and the successful committee they have in place with members who have years of experience and success in getting dental schools to pass accreditation. I honestly wasn't worried after he thoroughly discussed it.
Questions Answered:
Inaugural class size? 50 - 55, 60 at the very most.
Class sizes in future years? 80 - 84
Estimated Tuition as of today: $58,000 plus fees (ouch!)
Grading? No class ranking. No grades. Pass/not pass is used.
Any post graduate training (specialities). OMS, Endo, GPR and AEGD once the school has matured and is running smooth.
Block Schedule? Subjects are taught in blocks (approx. 2 - 3 weeks in length - which is what he showed). To pass you must achieve 90% or above in each section. Their are remediation days throughout the block to enable students extra time to gain competency if they do not meet the 90%. Remediation is also offered during summer breaks. Groups are tested. If your group scores 95% or higher you get 5% added to your individual score. This encourages collaboration and not competition.
Will they give preference to state residents? Pretty obvious, private school and no obligation to Utah residents. "We will choose the most qualified applicants who apply regardless of the state." Dr. Harman.
How many people have applied to the school so far? As of today approx. 784 applications have been received from AADSAS with 24 more AADSAS mailings to go. Dr. Harman said he was hoping to get at least 500 to 600 applicants total. At this rate it will double, triple or even more… I think this surprised us all.
When will they begin looking at applications? in a couple weeks. Dr. Harman said Interviews will probably begin in October and will be in full swing in November.
Interviews? The committee is still looking at how they will hold the interview process. Dr. Harman said they are looking at having a group activity as part of the process to look for those who are assertive and work well in groups. He definitely emphasized the importance of group collaboration.
Patients: They are working with the leadership of the surrounding cities and will do a lot of PR and advertising to provide an adequate patient pool for students. Students will be given business cards to give out to people who can't their own dental work. Dr. Harman said this model was used successfully at U of P.
Impression (my personal opinion):
Very impressed over all with the school, its vision, innovation and utilization of technology. Everything is brand new with the latest and greatest which is always nice. It was interesting to see the designs that are still being decided upon for the simulation lab and clinic. Very cutting edge and efficient with the student in mind. I was impressed by the innovative ideas in many areas. Dr. Harman even admitted that he thought about bringing the three year model from U of P to USN. I like Dr. Harman and feel like he and Dr. Buchanan (who have both worked together previously) have a proven track record of success and are great leaders and well respected for what they do in the field. I like the location. Situated near neighboring states that have no dental schools and near universities that put out many hungry predental students (the number of students applying thus far is evidence of this). I like the location in the valley and really like the block schedule. The price of tuition was high but to be expected these days.
WIth the innovation and vision they have i believe the school will quickly be successful and competitive, putting out future leaders in the field of dentistry. I was impressed and place it at the top of my list this app. cycle.
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Thanks for the post liason. I'm one of the 784. This sounds like a school I really want to go to. I wouldn't be worried about accreditation. I doubt a school would invest this much money if they didn't think they would be accredited. Does anybody know of a dental school startup that didn't achieve accreditation?
IMA: Dr. Harman personally replied to an email question of mine within 24hrs. I haven't had such a quick, friendly response from any schools like his - and from the Associate Dean too!
IMA: Dr. Harman personally replied to an email question of mine within 24hrs. I haven't had such a quick, friendly response from any schools like his - and from the Associate Dean too!
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