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You applied fairly late with a high GPA/low MCAT. Did this get brought up in interviews at all? I'm worried that I will be in this boat, if my MCAT doesn't turn out great. If I score 27+ I will have (relatively) no worries.

Also, I see a lot of people getting accepted to ACOM very late in the season. Are fewer people applying to this school because of the high tuition? Safe school to apply to later in the season?

I was expecting my late application to get brought up more than it actually did. I was only asked about it at CUSOM (was basically told my interview was for a waitlist spot only). I knew my chances were a bit of a stretch but I applied very selectively to schools (based on average stats, geographical preferences, etc). I did feel very comfortable and relaxed at my interviews, which I think really helped in terms of overcoming my low MCAT score (which was discussed at length in every, single interview).

Here's what I gathered from ACOM at the interview:

Being an AL resident probably helped in getting an interview late in the process. At the interview they said they had "100+ deposits received" but wouldn't give a specific number to how many seats were left. I could be wrong, but I gathered that they were probably about 10-15 spots left and they were beginning to waitlist nearly everyone until interviews completed and then start blazing down the waitlist. I haven't seen an accepted post in the ACOM discussion thread in quite some time -- lots and lots of waitlist responses though.

My biggest piece of advice and the one thing I wish I had done, was apply early! I was super fortunate to get an acceptance with my stats and when I applied, but applying sooner may help with some of those stresses!
 
Applying early probably is about the same as having an extra point on the mcat.
 
Applying early probably is about the same as having an extra point on the mcat.

Agreed. I remember reading somewhere on here that applying early (june or july) means add 1 point to ur LizzyM score-might have been on the UD thread

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LizzyM score 62. (3.4 cGPA, 3.7sGPA, 28Q)

Applied to 6 DO schools in January, complete late January. IL resident, non-URM, non-trad.

Accepted: KCOM, AZCOM
Waitlisted: MUCOM
Interviews scheduled: SOMA, LECOM
Also applied: CCOM

MD letter only. Hope this helps!

This makes me feel less butthurt about not getting in at Marian, damn they got reallllly competitive

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===Demographics====
Ethnicity: Hispanic
State of Residency: NY
==================


==Stats===
Mcat score: 34T
Cgpa: 3.2
Sgpa: 3.2
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== Date Submitted===
Application Cycle Year: 2009
Application Date of Primary: July
Secondary Submitted average: August
Secondary date of submission for accepted/ interviewed Schools: August
Interview dates: 3 September 3 October 2 November 1 March
Interview dates of schools accepted: March
==================

==Applications====
Number of schools applied: ~25
What schools interviewed you: UVermont, Umdnj, Robert wood Johnson, SUNY upstate, SUNY downstate, stony brook, NYMC, UNebraska, TouroNY
What schools accepted you: TouroNY, UNMC.
Schools In-state that interview/ accepted you: see above.
===============

====Extras=======
DO or MD Letter: both
Research Experience: None.

perhaps you noticed the lack of DO schools? I had a SNAFU in my application and knew about it, but decided not to fix it given how many MD interviews I was getting. I later corrected it, interviewed at one place, was accepted 1 week later and turned down interviews at lecom, umdnjsom, and pcom.
 
3.4 gpa/28 mcat/ white female

2nd time applying, been out of school for 2 years

applied to MD early-ish, got an interview at my state school (again), but was rejected a week later (again)

submitted primary to DO in like...September? submitted secondary to most in November, got an II at LECOM in December, interviewed in January and have been accepted. thank god.
 
===Demographics====
Ethnicity: Hispanic
State of Residency: NY
==================


==Stats===
Mcat score: 34T
Cgpa: 3.2
Sgpa: 3.2
=========

== Date Submitted===
Application Cycle Year: 2009
Application Date of Primary: July
Secondary Submitted average: August
Secondary date of submission for accepted/ interviewed Schools: August
Interview dates: 3 September 3 October 2 November 1 March
Interview dates of schools accepted: March
==================

==Applications====
Number of schools applied: ~25
What schools interviewed you: UVermont, Umdnj, Robert wood Johnson, SUNY upstate, SUNY downstate, stony brook, NYMC, UNebraska, TouroNY
What schools accepted you: TouroNY, UNMC.
Schools In-state that interview/ accepted you: see above.
===============

====Extras=======
DO or MD Letter: both
Research Experience: None.

perhaps you noticed the lack of DO schools? I had a SNAFU in my application and knew about it, but decided not to fix it given how many MD interviews I was getting. I later corrected it, interviewed at one place, was accepted 1 week later and turned down interviews at lecom, umdnjsom, and pcom.

I'm surprised that you only got one of those MD schools to accept you. I'd think there'd be a greater ratio. But yah, what does SNAFU mean?
 
I can't do physics. Got two C-'s.

And snafu is military lingo for "situation normal all fudged up". Basically when something seems to be going all smooth and then suddenly is epicly screwed up. I had 1 year at a undergraduate before I transferred to my primary undergraduate. I requested that they send my transcripts to the AAMC and AACOMAS. They sent 2 copies to the AAMC and charged me for both while sending none to AACOMAS. It took me over 2 months to figure out what happened that held up my DO apps, and when I did they refused to send the documents to the correct place despite taking my money and mailing it incorrectly to the wrong place. It became a protracted argument over small amount of money, but as long as I was getting MD interviews I wasn't going to pay this place on principle to send out my transcript when they were the ones who messed up. At the time I was not feeling so needy for DO interviews.

the fact of the matter is, with New York Medical Schools, if you have a significant flaw in your application they just won't look at you. It is the most applicants of any state, and has the most medical students at it. There was no shortage of people to replace me with good mcats and mediocre GPA's who got the mediocre GPA by being a consistent B+ student rather than an A- student with two semesters of absolute physics epic fail.
 
I can't do physics. Got two C-'s.

And snafu is military lingo for "situation normal all fudged up". Basically when something seems to be going all smooth and then suddenly is epicly screwed up. I had 1 year at a undergraduate before I transferred to my primary undergraduate. I requested that they send my transcripts to the AAMC and AACOMAS. They sent 2 copies to the AAMC and charged me for both while sending none to AACOMAS. It took me over 2 months to figure out what happened that held up my DO apps, and when I did they refused to send the documents to the correct place despite taking my money and mailing it incorrectly to the wrong place. It became a protracted argument over small amount of money, but as long as I was getting MD interviews I wasn't going to pay this place on principle to send out my transcript when they were the ones who messed up. At the time I was not feeling so needy for DO interviews.

the fact of the matter is, with New York Medical Schools, if you have a significant flaw in your application they just won't look at you. It is the most applicants of any state, and has the most medical students at it. There was no shortage of people to replace me with good mcats and mediocre GPA's who got the mediocre GPA by being a consistent B+ student rather than an A- student with two semesters of absolute physics epic fail.

I can't believe two grades would make make or break somebody
 
I can't do physics. Got two C-'s.

And snafu is military lingo for "situation normal all fudged up". Basically when something seems to be going all smooth and then suddenly is epicly screwed up. I had 1 year at a undergraduate before I transferred to my primary undergraduate. I requested that they send my transcripts to the AAMC and AACOMAS. They sent 2 copies to the AAMC and charged me for both while sending none to AACOMAS. It took me over 2 months to figure out what happened that held up my DO apps, and when I did they refused to send the documents to the correct place despite taking my money and mailing it incorrectly to the wrong place. It became a protracted argument over small amount of money, but as long as I was getting MD interviews I wasn't going to pay this place on principle to send out my transcript when they were the ones who messed up. At the time I was not feeling so needy for DO interviews.

the fact of the matter is, with New York Medical Schools, if you have a significant flaw in your application they just won't look at you. It is the most applicants of any state, and has the most medical students at it. There was no shortage of people to replace me with good mcats and mediocre GPA's who got the mediocre GPA by being a consistent B+ student rather than an A- student with two semesters of absolute physics epic fail.


If you can't do physics however did you do well on the mcat lol. But yes, I see so the low physic grades screwed you over. Did you consider sending in a letter of intent telling them that if you got accepted you'd retake them?
 
I can't believe two grades would make make or break somebody

absolutely. At both University of Vermont and Stony Brook I was told flat out in my interview that I would not be accepted solely because of those 2 grades. I actually have a very funny story where I told University Vermont's interview or that I would make a fantastic physician as long as I didn't do radiology and I was never told a patient was jumping out of window and I had to calculate when they would hit the ground for the trauma team to meet them.

UNMC accepted me only under the condition that I retake both physics 1 and physics 2 over the summer and get at least a C in both classes. literally they wanted 0.33 GPA better in two classes.

If you can't do physics however did you do well on the mcat lol. But yes, I see so the low physic grades screwed you over. Did you consider sending in a letter of intent telling them that if you got accepted you'd retake them?

I have absolutely no ability to do calculus. I was never taught it at any point my life. my college only offered calculus based physics, and completing it was a requirement for my degree, and my school did not allow you to complete core requirements at community colleges. So I had to take the calculus based physics class, even though the mcat is almost entirely algebra and trigonometry based physics
 
I have absolutely no ability to do calculus. I was never taught it at any point my life. my college only offered calculus based physics, and completing it was a requirement for my degree, and my school did not allow you to complete core requirements at community colleges. So I had to take the calculus based physics class, even though the mcat is almost entirely algebra and trigonometry based physics

This sounds an awful lot like me. I'm a terrible mathematician, don't really know why but that's just how it is.

Physics and to a lesser extent, general chemistry, nearly did me in. I was golden everywhere else. I also had an unbalanced MCAT as a result with 11's and 12's on verbal and bio respectively, but only 7 on Physical Sciences.
 
This sounds an awful lot like me. I'm a terrible mathematician, don't really know why but that's just how it is.

Physics and to a lesser extent, general chemistry, nearly did me in. I was golden everywhere else. I also had an unbalanced MCAT as a result with 11's and 12's on verbal and bio respectively, but only 7 on Physical Sciences.

The PS section just generally blows. and its predictive power is minimal.
 
This makes me feel less butthurt about not getting in at Marian, damn they got reallllly competitive

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Yeah, they flat out told us on my interview day that there were only about 16 seats left (mid-February). It got really competitive, really fast. Long story short, apply early.
 
===Demographics====
Ethnicity: whitey mcwhiterson
State of Residency: MN
==================


==Stats===
Mcat score: 25
Cgpa: 3.3
Sgpa: 3.1
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so 58 LizzyM for cgpa and lower for sgpa

== Date Submitted===
Application Cycle Year: 2012-2013
Application Date of Primary: July
Secondary Submitted average: October (damn LOR)
Secondary date of submission for accepted/ interviewed Schools: October
Interview dates: December
Interview dates of schools accepted: 🙁
==================

==Applications====
Number of schools applied: 15?
What schools interviewed you: WV, MUCOM, LMU
What schools accepted you: 0 🙁 - waitlisted at LMU

===============

====Extras=======
DO or MD Letter: MD letter only
Research Experience: nada
 
===Demographics====
Ethnicity: whitey mcwhiterson
State of Residency: MN
==================


==Stats===
Mcat score: 25
Cgpa: 3.3
Sgpa: 3.1
=========
so 58 LizzyM for cgpa and lower for sgpa

== Date Submitted===
Application Cycle Year: 2012-2013
Application Date of Primary: July
Secondary Submitted average: October (damn LOR)
Secondary date of submission for accepted/ interviewed Schools: October
Interview dates: December
Interview dates of schools accepted: 🙁
==================

==Applications====
Number of schools applied: 15?
What schools interviewed you: WV, MUCOM, LMU
What schools accepted you: 0 🙁 - waitlisted at LMU

===============

====Extras=======
DO or MD Letter: MD letter only
Research Experience: nada

Have u already interviewed and heard from WV? I feel like you just got that interview didn't you? There could still be a light at the end of the tunnel!
 
the fact of the matter is, with New York Medical Schools, if you have a significant flaw in your application they just won't look at you. It is the most applicants of any state, and has the most medical students at it. There was no shortage of people to replace me with good mcats and mediocre GPA's who got the mediocre GPA by being a consistent B+ student rather than an A- student with two semesters of absolute physics epic fail.[/QUOTE]

Actually, California and Texas have more applicants (5326 and 3733 respectively).

Admittedly, Texas takes a higher percentage of IS applicants than NY (36.6% vs 30.3%), but I would submit that CA applicants (with only a 15.8% IS acceptance) has the largest number of applicants with the lowest chance of IS matriculation.
 
the fact of the matter is, with New York Medical Schools, if you have a significant flaw in your application they just won't look at you. It is the most applicants of any state, and has the most medical students at it. There was no shortage of people to replace me with good mcats and mediocre GPA's who got the mediocre GPA by being a consistent B+ student rather than an A- student with two semesters of absolute physics epic fail.

Actually, California and Texas have more applicants (5326 and 3733 respectively).

Admittedly, Texas takes a higher percentage of IS applicants than NY (36.6% vs 30.3%), but I would submit that CA applicants (with only a 15.8% IS acceptance) has the largest number of applicants with the lowest chance of IS matriculation.

You're confusing applicants *from* a state and applicants *to* a state. NY schools have the most applicants applying to them by a huge margin. It also has the most enrolled medical students (due to having 14 medical schools). What you are referencing is NY has the 3rd or 4th applicants FROM the state.
 
84,564 applications were submitted to NY medical schools last year. That is without counting 3(!) of them as both Touro and NYCOM (well over 6,000 apps there I would assume) aren't on the AAMC numbers, and Sophie Davis medical school is an aamc school that doesn't use the amcas, so its applicants can't be tracked.

It breaks down to 6,504 per school tracked by AMCAS.

Compare to 52,243 for California. Thats 5,804 per school. And California does have the second most apps per school, and its still a thousand less applicants per school than the average NY school.
 
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===Demographics====
Ethnicity: Latina
State of Residency: WI
==================


==Stats===
Mcat score: 26
Cgpa: 3.6
Sgpa: 3.2
=========

== Date Submitted===
Application Cycle Year: 2012
Application Date of Primary: June
Secondary Submitted average: August
Secondary date of submission for accepted/ interviewed Schools: August
Interview dates: 1 September, 2 October, 1 April
Interview dates of schools accepted: September (so far, still gotta go to that April one)
==================

==Applications====
Number of schools applied: 14
What schools interviewed you: UMDNJ, NSU, University of Wisconsin, Medical College of Wisconsin
What schools accepted you: NSU (waitlisted at UMDNJ)
Schools In-state that interview/ accepted you: rejected by UW, still have to interview at MCW
===============

====Extras=======
DO or MD Letter: DO
Research Experience: 2.5 years

So I was actually invited to interview at the following schools: Marian, LECOM-E, KCOM, NSU, UMDNJ, University of Wisc and MCW. After I was accepted to NSU I declined Marian, LECOM-E, and KCOM.
 
You're confusing applicants *from* a state and applicants *to* a state. NY schools have the most applicants applying to them by a huge margin. It also has the most enrolled medical students (due to having 14 medical schools). What you are referencing is NY has the 3rd or 4th applicants FROM the state.
The total number applicants to each state are published annually by the AAMC Those totals include both IS and OOS. You are correct in observing that there are far more schools and 1st year positions in NY, but there are more applicants to CA schools compared to NY (5326 vs 3098).
 
84,564 applications were submitted to NY medical schools last year. That is without counting 3(!) of them as both Touro and NYCOM (well over 6,000 apps there I would assume) aren't on the AAMC numbers, and Sophie Davis medical school is an aamc school that doesn't use the amcas, so its applicants can't be tracked.

It breaks down to 6,504 per school tracked by AMCAS.

Compare to 52,243 for California. Thats 5,804 per school. And California does have the second most apps per school, and its still a thousand less applicants per school than the average NY school.
Ahh! You are counting applications, not applicants. Now I see the reason for the discrepancy.
 
The total number applicants to each state are published annually by the AAMC Those totals include both IS and OOS. You are correct in observing that there are far more schools and 1st year positions in NY, but there are more applicants to CA schools compared to NY (5326 vs 3098).

With all due respect to your clinical accomplishments, you are so spectacularly wrong in this statistical conversation.
https://www.aamc.org/data/facts/
 
Ahh! You are counting applications, not applicants. Now I see the reason for the discrepancy.

Applications divided number of schools equals a good lowball estimate of number of unique individuals who have applied? You are stating the in state applicants to New York, as far as I can tell from a quick gander at the aamcas charts. That was never really the stat we were debating.
 
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I want to see if people with DO letters have better outcomes than those who do not.
 
Applications divided number of schools equals a good lowball estimate of number of unique individuals who have applied? You are stating the in state applicants to New York, as far as I can tell from a quick gander at the aamcas charts. That was never really the stat we were debating.
From what I have seen the number of applications per applicant appears to vary dramatically from region to region. I have not seen an reliable anaysis of this variability, however. It would be interesting to see if this has been done.
 
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===Demographics====
Ethnicity: ( URM or Not)
State of Residency: Illinois
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==Stats===
Mcat score: 27
Cgpa: 3.45
Sgpa: 3.35
=========

== Date Submitted===
Application Cycle Year: 2012
Application Date of Primary: 6/1/12
Secondary Submitted average: 7/1/12
Secondary date of submission for accepted/ interviewed Schools: 7/1/12
Interview dates: 9/15/12
Interview dates of schools accepted: 9/15/12
==================

==Applications====
Number of schools applied: 4
What schools interviewed you: CCOM, ( invites from DMU, KCOM, MU-COM)
What schools accepted you: CCOM
Schools In-state that interview/ accepted you: CCOM
===============

====Extras=======
DO or MD Letter: 2 DO letters, both CCOM grads, one on staff with OMM dept at CCOM
Research Experience: yes
 
===Demographics====
Ethnicity: white female
State of Residency: FL
==================


==Stats===
Mcat score: 25
Cgpa: 3.5
Sgpa: 3.4
=========
so 60? LizzyM

== Date Submitted===
Application Cycle Year: 2012-2013
Application Date of Primary: September
Secondary Submitted average: October
Secondary date of submission for accepted/ interviewed Schools: October (mid month)
Interview dates: 2 in November, 2 December, 2 January, 1 in march
Interview dates of schools accepted:
==================

==Applications====
Number of schools applied: 17
What schools interviewed you: I got invites to PCOM-GA, LMU, NSU, WCU, ACOM, CUSOM, and LECOM-B but I only went to PCOM-GA, LMU, and NSU
What schools accepted you: LMU, PCOM-GA, NSU

===============

====Extras=======
DO or MD Letter: MD and 2 DO
Research Experience: 200 hours in the lab, no publications, I was working on something with a grad student
 
Man, I'm so nervous about this upcoming cycle! Reading through the various school postings, taking my MCAT in little over a month. :scared:
 
White, Illinois

LizzyM Score= 62.1

II= DMU, KCOM, SOMA, ACOM, CUSOM, CCOM, LECOM B, LMU, PNWU, PCOM-GA, KYCOM, RVU, WesternU-Lebanon

Small Pooled= Rosalind Franklin
 
Wow that's a lot of interviews. Good job! How early did you apply and what were your GPAs and MCAT?


Thank you!

3.6 cGPA (6 C's 1F, 3 re-takes) and best MCAT was 26.

I did not apply early. I took my second MCAT in August, and did not apply until September.

I do have 3 publications, a lot of research, and work in underdeveloped countries. There is always hope! I thought I was going to the carib when the cycle started.
 
That gives me hope. I am also an Illinois resident and I have a 3.7/25 and am applying this summer.

You should be fine. Your GPA makes up for the 1 point lower that your MCAT is. How are your EC's?
 
That gives me hope. I am also an Illinois resident and I have a 3.7/25 and am applying this summer.

Your stats are more than fine you will most definitely get multiple interviews 👍
 
Thank you!

3.6 cGPA (6 C's 1F, 3 re-takes) and best MCAT was 26.

I did not apply early. I took my second MCAT in August, and did not apply until September.

I do have 3 publications, a lot of research, and work in underdeveloped countries. There is always hope! I thought I was going to the carib when the cycle started.

Your pubs and work probably made you stand out strongly. Did you not get any acceptances from any of those schools though?
 
Your stats are more than fine you will most definitely get multiple interviews 👍


👍 Can't wait to be classmates with the famous DrMeows! She will practice OMM on her cat :laugh: 😀
 
===Demographics====
Ethnicity: white female
State of Residency: FL
==================


==Stats===
Mcat score: 25
Cgpa: 3.5
Sgpa: 3.4
=========
so 60? LizzyM

== Date Submitted===
Application Cycle Year: 2012-2013
Application Date of Primary: September
Secondary Submitted average: October
Secondary date of submission for accepted/ interviewed Schools: October (mid month)
Interview dates: 2 in November, 2 December, 2 January, 1 in march
Interview dates of schools accepted:
==================

==Applications====
Number of schools applied: 17
What schools interviewed you: I got invites to PCOM-GA, LMU, NSU, WCU, ACOM, CUSOM, and LECOM-B but I only went to PCOM-GA, LMU, and NSU
What schools accepted you: LMU, PCOM-GA, NSU

===============

====Extras=======
DO or MD Letter: MD and 2 DO
Research Experience: 200 hours in the lab, no publications, I was working on something with a grad student

Looks like you had a pretty solid application season.
 
Your pubs and work probably made you stand out strongly. Did you not get any acceptances from any of those schools though?

I did just not really announcing it due to the ACOM mishap that happened.
 
What did that person do anyway? and whatever happend to them?
 
===Demographics====
Ethnicity: whitey mcwhiterson
State of Residency: MN
==================


==Stats===
Mcat score: 25
Cgpa: 3.3
Sgpa: 3.1
=========
so 58 LizzyM for cgpa and lower for sgpa

== Date Submitted===
Application Cycle Year: 2012-2013
Application Date of Primary: July
Secondary Submitted average: October (damn LOR)
Secondary date of submission for accepted/ interviewed Schools: October
Interview dates: December
Interview dates of schools accepted: 🙁
==================

==Applications====
Number of schools applied: 15?
What schools interviewed you: WV, MUCOM, LMU
What schools accepted you: 0 🙁 - waitlisted at LMU

===============

====Extras=======
DO or MD Letter: MD letter only
Research Experience: nada

Touchpause:

I talked with someone who was in your exact situation about 2 years ago. She told me that LMU was the only school MD or DO she heard back from. She ended up having to reapply, but she did so first thing and really pursued LMU. I would do this if you want to go there, and while the wait list isn't as nice as an acceptance, there is still hope!

Woo LMU, make them fall in love with your body.
 
He got screwed over by something he said and he's in an SMP, I don't know if he's retaking though.

He applied to SMPs and I know he got at least one previously cancelled interview back (decision after that interview idk). He's doing a good job of staying under the radar. Good choice if you ask me lol
 
This is giving me some hope.

3.3 sGPA, 3.5 uGPA, 4.0 gGPA.
Expecting an MCAT between 27 - 31

Lots of ECs, but I have a red flag in that I got a D in Biochem late in my academic career.
 
This is giving me some hope.

3.3 sGPA, 3.5 uGPA, 4.0 gGPA.
Expecting an MCAT between 27 - 31

Lots of ECs, but I have a red flag in that I got a D in Biochem late in my academic career.

Did you retake it? I'm sure you know about the replacement policy but you're worried about an explanation since it was late in your career.

I think that gradGPA of 4.0 will pretty much nullify that grade.
 
How do schools view unofficial postbacc? I understand how it will boost your gpa via retake. I took 28 credits last year at a 4.0, but will that be something they look at, or just at my overall cgpa/sgpa?
 
How do schools view unofficial postbacc? I understand how it will boost your gpa via retake. I took 28 credits last year at a 4.0, but will that be something they look at, or just at my overall cgpa/sgpa?

Everything after your first degree that you take at an undergrad is considered PB
 
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