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You applied fairly late with a high GPA/low MCAT. Did this get brought up in interviews at all? I'm worried that I will be in this boat, if my MCAT doesn't turn out great. If I score 27+ I will have (relatively) no worries.
Also, I see a lot of people getting accepted to ACOM very late in the season. Are fewer people applying to this school because of the high tuition? Safe school to apply to later in the season?
Applying early probably is about the same as having an extra point on the mcat.
LizzyM score 62. (3.4 cGPA, 3.7sGPA, 28Q)
Applied to 6 DO schools in January, complete late January. IL resident, non-URM, non-trad.
Accepted: KCOM, AZCOM
Waitlisted: MUCOM
Interviews scheduled: SOMA, LECOM
Also applied: CCOM
MD letter only. Hope this helps!
===Demographics====
Ethnicity: Hispanic
State of Residency: NY
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==Stats===
Mcat score: 34T
Cgpa: 3.2
Sgpa: 3.2
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== Date Submitted===
Application Cycle Year: 2009
Application Date of Primary: July
Secondary Submitted average: August
Secondary date of submission for accepted/ interviewed Schools: August
Interview dates: 3 September 3 October 2 November 1 March
Interview dates of schools accepted: March
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==Applications====
Number of schools applied: ~25
What schools interviewed you: UVermont, Umdnj, Robert wood Johnson, SUNY upstate, SUNY downstate, stony brook, NYMC, UNebraska, TouroNY
What schools accepted you: TouroNY, UNMC.
Schools In-state that interview/ accepted you: see above.
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====Extras=======
DO or MD Letter: both
Research Experience: None.
perhaps you noticed the lack of DO schools? I had a SNAFU in my application and knew about it, but decided not to fix it given how many MD interviews I was getting. I later corrected it, interviewed at one place, was accepted 1 week later and turned down interviews at lecom, umdnjsom, and pcom.
I can't do physics. Got two C-'s.
And snafu is military lingo for "situation normal all fudged up". Basically when something seems to be going all smooth and then suddenly is epicly screwed up. I had 1 year at a undergraduate before I transferred to my primary undergraduate. I requested that they send my transcripts to the AAMC and AACOMAS. They sent 2 copies to the AAMC and charged me for both while sending none to AACOMAS. It took me over 2 months to figure out what happened that held up my DO apps, and when I did they refused to send the documents to the correct place despite taking my money and mailing it incorrectly to the wrong place. It became a protracted argument over small amount of money, but as long as I was getting MD interviews I wasn't going to pay this place on principle to send out my transcript when they were the ones who messed up. At the time I was not feeling so needy for DO interviews.
the fact of the matter is, with New York Medical Schools, if you have a significant flaw in your application they just won't look at you. It is the most applicants of any state, and has the most medical students at it. There was no shortage of people to replace me with good mcats and mediocre GPA's who got the mediocre GPA by being a consistent B+ student rather than an A- student with two semesters of absolute physics epic fail.
I can't do physics. Got two C-'s.
And snafu is military lingo for "situation normal all fudged up". Basically when something seems to be going all smooth and then suddenly is epicly screwed up. I had 1 year at a undergraduate before I transferred to my primary undergraduate. I requested that they send my transcripts to the AAMC and AACOMAS. They sent 2 copies to the AAMC and charged me for both while sending none to AACOMAS. It took me over 2 months to figure out what happened that held up my DO apps, and when I did they refused to send the documents to the correct place despite taking my money and mailing it incorrectly to the wrong place. It became a protracted argument over small amount of money, but as long as I was getting MD interviews I wasn't going to pay this place on principle to send out my transcript when they were the ones who messed up. At the time I was not feeling so needy for DO interviews.
the fact of the matter is, with New York Medical Schools, if you have a significant flaw in your application they just won't look at you. It is the most applicants of any state, and has the most medical students at it. There was no shortage of people to replace me with good mcats and mediocre GPA's who got the mediocre GPA by being a consistent B+ student rather than an A- student with two semesters of absolute physics epic fail.
I can't believe two grades would make make or break somebody
If you can't do physics however did you do well on the mcat lol. But yes, I see so the low physic grades screwed you over. Did you consider sending in a letter of intent telling them that if you got accepted you'd retake them?
I have absolutely no ability to do calculus. I was never taught it at any point my life. my college only offered calculus based physics, and completing it was a requirement for my degree, and my school did not allow you to complete core requirements at community colleges. So I had to take the calculus based physics class, even though the mcat is almost entirely algebra and trigonometry based physics
This sounds an awful lot like me. I'm a terrible mathematician, don't really know why but that's just how it is.
Physics and to a lesser extent, general chemistry, nearly did me in. I was golden everywhere else. I also had an unbalanced MCAT as a result with 11's and 12's on verbal and bio respectively, but only 7 on Physical Sciences.
This makes me feel less butthurt about not getting in at Marian, damn they got reallllly competitive
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===Demographics====
Ethnicity: whitey mcwhiterson
State of Residency: MN
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==Stats===
Mcat score: 25
Cgpa: 3.3
Sgpa: 3.1
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so 58 LizzyM for cgpa and lower for sgpa
== Date Submitted===
Application Cycle Year: 2012-2013
Application Date of Primary: July
Secondary Submitted average: October (damn LOR)
Secondary date of submission for accepted/ interviewed Schools: October
Interview dates: December
Interview dates of schools accepted: 🙁
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==Applications====
Number of schools applied: 15?
What schools interviewed you: WV, MUCOM, LMU
What schools accepted you: 0 🙁 - waitlisted at LMU
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====Extras=======
DO or MD Letter: MD letter only
Research Experience: nada
the fact of the matter is, with New York Medical Schools, if you have a significant flaw in your application they just won't look at you. It is the most applicants of any state, and has the most medical students at it. There was no shortage of people to replace me with good mcats and mediocre GPA's who got the mediocre GPA by being a consistent B+ student rather than an A- student with two semesters of absolute physics epic fail.
Actually, California and Texas have more applicants (5326 and 3733 respectively).
Admittedly, Texas takes a higher percentage of IS applicants than NY (36.6% vs 30.3%), but I would submit that CA applicants (with only a 15.8% IS acceptance) has the largest number of applicants with the lowest chance of IS matriculation.
The total number applicants to each state are published annually by the AAMC Those totals include both IS and OOS. You are correct in observing that there are far more schools and 1st year positions in NY, but there are more applicants to CA schools compared to NY (5326 vs 3098).You're confusing applicants *from* a state and applicants *to* a state. NY schools have the most applicants applying to them by a huge margin. It also has the most enrolled medical students (due to having 14 medical schools). What you are referencing is NY has the 3rd or 4th applicants FROM the state.
Ahh! You are counting applications, not applicants. Now I see the reason for the discrepancy.84,564 applications were submitted to NY medical schools last year. That is without counting 3(!) of them as both Touro and NYCOM (well over 6,000 apps there I would assume) aren't on the AAMC numbers, and Sophie Davis medical school is an aamc school that doesn't use the amcas, so its applicants can't be tracked.
It breaks down to 6,504 per school tracked by AMCAS.
Compare to 52,243 for California. Thats 5,804 per school. And California does have the second most apps per school, and its still a thousand less applicants per school than the average NY school.
The total number applicants to each state are published annually by the AAMC Those totals include both IS and OOS. You are correct in observing that there are far more schools and 1st year positions in NY, but there are more applicants to CA schools compared to NY (5326 vs 3098).
Ahh! You are counting applications, not applicants. Now I see the reason for the discrepancy.
From what I have seen the number of applications per applicant appears to vary dramatically from region to region. I have not seen an reliable anaysis of this variability, however. It would be interesting to see if this has been done.Applications divided number of schools equals a good lowball estimate of number of unique individuals who have applied? You are stating the in state applicants to New York, as far as I can tell from a quick gander at the aamcas charts. That was never really the stat we were debating.
Wow that's a lot of interviews. Good job! How early did you apply and what were your GPAs and MCAT?
That gives me hope. I am also an Illinois resident and I have a 3.7/25 and am applying this summer.
That gives me hope. I am also an Illinois resident and I have a 3.7/25 and am applying this summer.
Thank you!
3.6 cGPA (6 C's 1F, 3 re-takes) and best MCAT was 26.
I did not apply early. I took my second MCAT in August, and did not apply until September.
I do have 3 publications, a lot of research, and work in underdeveloped countries. There is always hope! I thought I was going to the carib when the cycle started.
Your stats are more than fine you will most definitely get multiple interviews 👍
===Demographics====
Ethnicity: white female
State of Residency: FL
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==Stats===
Mcat score: 25
Cgpa: 3.5
Sgpa: 3.4
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so 60? LizzyM
== Date Submitted===
Application Cycle Year: 2012-2013
Application Date of Primary: September
Secondary Submitted average: October
Secondary date of submission for accepted/ interviewed Schools: October (mid month)
Interview dates: 2 in November, 2 December, 2 January, 1 in march
Interview dates of schools accepted:
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==Applications====
Number of schools applied: 17
What schools interviewed you: I got invites to PCOM-GA, LMU, NSU, WCU, ACOM, CUSOM, and LECOM-B but I only went to PCOM-GA, LMU, and NSU
What schools accepted you: LMU, PCOM-GA, NSU
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====Extras=======
DO or MD Letter: MD and 2 DO
Research Experience: 200 hours in the lab, no publications, I was working on something with a grad student
👍 Can't wait to be classmates with the famous DrMeows! She will practice OMM on her cat😀
Your pubs and work probably made you stand out strongly. Did you not get any acceptances from any of those schools though?
I did just not really announcing it due to the ACOM mishap that happened.
I'll PM you
===Demographics====
Ethnicity: whitey mcwhiterson
State of Residency: MN
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==Stats===
Mcat score: 25
Cgpa: 3.3
Sgpa: 3.1
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so 58 LizzyM for cgpa and lower for sgpa
== Date Submitted===
Application Cycle Year: 2012-2013
Application Date of Primary: July
Secondary Submitted average: October (damn LOR)
Secondary date of submission for accepted/ interviewed Schools: October
Interview dates: December
Interview dates of schools accepted: 🙁
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==Applications====
Number of schools applied: 15?
What schools interviewed you: WV, MUCOM, LMU
What schools accepted you: 0 🙁 - waitlisted at LMU
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====Extras=======
DO or MD Letter: MD letter only
Research Experience: nada
What did that person do anyway? and whatever happend to them?
He got screwed over by something he said and he's in an SMP, I don't know if he's retaking though.
This is giving me some hope.
3.3 sGPA, 3.5 uGPA, 4.0 gGPA.
Expecting an MCAT between 27 - 31
Lots of ECs, but I have a red flag in that I got a D in Biochem late in my academic career.
How do schools view unofficial postbacc? I understand how it will boost your gpa via retake. I took 28 credits last year at a 4.0, but will that be something they look at, or just at my overall cgpa/sgpa?