Which of these D.O. schools don't have mandatory attendance?

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I am thinking of applying to NYCOM, PCOM-Philadelphia, NSU and Chicago College Osteopathic Medicine.

Does anyone have experience whether any of these schools have mandatory attendance? I personally hate going to class, so that is an important factor to me. Also which other D.O. schools don't have mandatory attendance, i couldn't find a clear thread or anything,.

 

[tumartin10]

at PCOM only the labs are mandatory

 

[seap3]

NSU DOES have mandatory attendance. The dean made a big deal about it at our interviews. You have to swipe a card when you enter the lecture halls.

 

[theone1979]

I am thinking of applying to NYCOM, PCOM-Philadelphia, NSU and Chicago College Osteopathic Medicine.

Does anyone have experience whether any of these schools have mandatory attendance? I personally hate going to class, so that is an important factor to me. Also which other D.O. schools don't have mandatory attendance, i couldn't find a clear thread or anything,.

Honestly, it's infuriating that you will be competing for the limited number of D.O. seats with an attitude like that. You hate going to class? How exactly do you expect to become a quality physician without going to class? Do you think you can learn all you need from a textbook? If you really feel this way, med school isn't for you.

 

[BigBoosting]

Maybe you'd like PBL. I know the LECOM's have it. Not sure about any others.

 

[seap3]

Or how about the Independent pathway at LECOM? I'm not really familiar with it since I didn't apply there, but it sounds like it might be good for someone who prefers to learn on their own.

 

[Booster]

About NSU's attendance policy...

I am a M1 at Nova, and the faculty told us on the 1st day of school that we are supposed to swipe in every class so that our attendance is recorded (they also went on to tell us how we are not supposed to swipe in for other people and that there are serious consequences). We are required to attend around 70% of the classes or more before they start to deduct from our grades.

That being said, I forget to swipe in half of the time, half of the class does not attend most lectures (except the critical ones) and those who do not attend and afraid they may actually be taking our attendance, still have others swipe in for them so they do not get counted as absent. All in all, I do not think they are actually recording our attendance nor will they deduct points. I think it will only become effective if someone is failing the class and needs help, and they can go back and check to see if the person has been attending classes or not.

Of course, our labs are mandatory attendance in which if you are absent, you have to make up at a later time with one of the TAs.

 

[drctother]

Honestly, it's infuriating that you will be competing for the limited number of D.O. seats with an attitude like that. You hate going to class? How exactly do you expect to become a quality physician without going to class? Do you think you can learn all you need from a textbook? If you really feel this way, med school isn't for you.

I agree. I know for a fact I wont miss many classes, if I even miss any at all. WHy would you want to go to medical school but not want to go to the classes?!

What a waste of a spot when most people who WANT to be there should be there

I hope your attitude changes if you get accepted, other words you are not only wasting a spot but you are going to be incompetent when you reach rotations and screwed for the USMLE 1 or COMLEX 1

 

[PunkmedGirl]

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[PunkmedGirl]

Honestly, it's infuriating that you will be competing for the limited number of D.O. seats with an attitude like that. You hate going to class? How exactly do you expect to become a quality physician without going to class? Do you think you can learn all you need from a textbook? If you really feel this way, med school isn't for you.

I agree. I know for a fact I wont miss many classes, if I even miss any at all. WHy would you want to go to medical school but not want to go to the classes?!

What a waste of a spot when most people who WANT to be there should be there

I hope your attitude changes if you get accepted, other words you are not only wasting a spot but you are going to be incompetent when you reach rotations and screwed for the USMLE 1 or COMLEX 1

You both need to realized that there are medical students who don't go to class everyday and manage to still become excellent doctors. Did you guys even consider that going to class could be counterproductive to the OP's learning style? How does his learning translate into him wasting a spot in medical school? Uhmm, talk about high horses.

 

[seap3]

I also thought some of the posts were a bit harsh. Everyone learns differently, that's why some med schools are pbl, lecom has independent study, and several record lectures or have notepool.

It's probably best for those who know they don't want to attend every lecture to pick a school that doesn't have mandatory attendance. It's probably not fair to jump on them and say they don't deserve a med school spot and won't be good physicians.

One of the reasons I'm leaning towards DMU is because of the recorded lectures. I'm pretty sure I want to go to most lectures, but that could change once I'm actually in med school and inundated with tons of material to learn. I could find I can learn some material more efficiently on my own. Or something comes up (mine or my childrens' illness), and I don't want to worry about being marked 'absent'.

 

[PunkmedGirl]

I also thought some of the posts were a bit harsh. Everyone learns differently, that's why some med schools are pbl, lecom has independent study, and several record lectures or have notepool.

It's probably best for those who know they don't want to attend every lecture to pick a school that doesn't have mandatory attendance. It's probably not fair to jump on them and say they don't deserve a med school spot and won't be good physicians.

One of the reasons I'm leaning towards DMU is because of the recorded lectures. I'm pretty sure I want to go to most lectures, but that could change once I'm actually in med school and inundated with tons of material to learn. I could find I can learn some material more efficiently on my own. Or something comes up (mine or my childrens' illness), and I don't want to worry about being marked 'absent'.

Exactly.

 

[drctother]

You both need to realized that there are medical students who don't go to class everyday and manage to still become excellent doctors. Did you guys even consider that going to class could be counterproductive to the OP's learning style? How does his learning translate into him wasting a spot in medical school? Uhmm, talk about high horses.

While I am well aware that students study differently, your last comment is quite harsh and makes you come off as a snob, whether or not this true. Im sorry that I feel that not going to class is A) a waste of your own tuition B) a waste of the prof's time if not many students show up. I just feel a spot like this could go to a student who would maximize the value of class time and thus become an excellent doctor.

These are poor habits from undergrad and i very much doubt many students succeed carrying this habit over to medical school which is rigorous. I imagine many of the students who drop out of med school are these types of students. This is a waste of a seat

 

[denco88]

While I am well aware that students study differently, your last comment is quite harsh and makes you come off as a snob, whether or not this true. Im sorry that I feel that not going to class is A) a waste of your own tuition B) a waste of the prof's time if not many students show up. I just feel a spot like this could go to a student who would maximize the value of class time and thus become an excellent doctor.

These are poor habits from undergrad and i very much doubt many students succeed carrying this habit over to medical school which is rigorous. I imagine many of the students who drop out of med school are these types of students. This is a waste of a seat

Actually, I know plenty of successful med schools students who don't go to lecture and have scored extremely high on their boards. I go to school in Colorado and know some people at CU... Honestly, if there is a big snowfall there is about 1/3 of the class there. You can't tell me that 2/3 of the class drops out because they'd rather ski. No they learn all of the material just the same.

 

[PunkmedGirl]

While I am well aware that students study differently, your last comment is quite harsh and makes you come off as a snob, whether or not this true. Im sorry that I feel that not going to class is A) a waste of your own tuition B) a waste of the prof's time if not many students show up. I just feel a spot like this could go to a student who would maximize the value of class time and thus become an excellent doctor.

These are poor habits from undergrad and i very much doubt many students succeed carrying this habit over to medical school which is rigorous. I imagine many of the students who drop out of med school are these types of students. This is a waste of a seat

Actually, the last comment was a joke.

You really need to take a ride to the medical school forum before you past judgement or make generalizations about students who don't go to class in medical school. If attending lecture is the way you learn then that's fine, but don't pass judge or question someone's desire/dedication/worthy for being in medical school because they don't learn best by attending lectures. It's ironic that you called me (or attempt to call me) a snob because I don't agree with you, but this whole post suggests that you are the one that's a snob.

 

[drctother]

Actually, the last comment was a joke.

You really need to take a ride to the medical school forum before you past judgement or make generalizations about students who don't go to class in medical school. If attending lecture is the way you learn then that's fine, but don't pass judge or question someone's desire/dedication/worthy for being in medical school because they don't learn best by attending lectures. It's ironic that you called me (or attempt to call me) a snob because I don't agree with you, but this whole post suggests that you are the one that's a snob.

You continue to the stir the pot. Ive noticed this is consistent with your attitude over several threads including the URM threads. You need to re-read what I wrote about the snob comment....and than I want you to re-read what you just wrote about me

Prove me wrong

 

[drctother]

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[PunkmedGirl]

You continue to the stir the pot. Ive noticed this is consistent with your attitude over several threads including the URM threads. You need to re-read what I wrote about the snob comment....and than I want you to re-read what you just wrote about me

Prove me wrong

You and theone condemn the OP and any other student who may feel that going to lecture is a waste of time and believe that these students should not be allowed to "waste a spot" in medical school, but I'm the one that's stirring the pot? I merely pointed out that all medical students don't go to class all the time or at all, but still manage to succeed.

 

[surfer4life722]

I agree. I know for a fact I wont miss many classes, if I even miss any at all. WHy would you want to go to medical school but not want to go to the classes?!

What a waste of a spot when most people who WANT to be there should be there

I hope your attitude changes if you get accepted, other words you are not only wasting a spot but you are going to be incompetent when you reach rotations and screwed for the USMLE 1 or COMLEX 1

wow...i dont go to any of my med school classes at all but yet I still score in the top top 25% of class...class is over rated.

 

[theone1979]

I don't doubt that it's possible to do well in med school without attending class, however....

The OP made a thread whose whole point was to uncover what schools don't require attendance, stating that he "hates going to class".

I'm sorry but it really says something about a candidate whose criteria for a school is one that allows him to skip class without penalty.

I understand that people miss classes and still do well, but this guy seems to have already decided that his goal is to attend a school but not attend class. He didn't say he learns better on his own, he stated he "hates going to class".

Think of it this way, if you were an adcom and you were interviewing him and during the interview he said "does your school require attendance, because I hate going to class". Would you accept this guy? I highly doubt it, so why are you so quick to defend him here?

There are just so few spots for med schools students and it rubs me the wrong way to see someone who seems to be already trying to find away to just "get by". Maybe I am wrong about this guy, but the tone of his post really suggested that his priorities are way off.

 

[PunkmedGirl]

I don't doubt that it's possible to do well in med school without attending class, however....

The OP made a thread whose whole point was to uncover what schools don't require attendance, stating that he "hates going to class".

I'm sorry but it really says something about a candidate whose criteria for a school is one that allows him to skip class without penalty.

I understand that people miss classes and still do well, but this guy seems to have already decided that his goal is to attend a school but not attend class. He didn't say he learns better on his own, he stated he "hates going to class".

Think of it this way, if you were an adcom and you were interviewing him and during the interview he said "does your school require attendance, because I hate going to class". Would you accept this guy? I highly doubt it, so why are you so quick to defend him here?

There are just so few spots for med schools students and it rubs me the wrong way to see someone who seems to be already trying to find away to just "get by". Maybe I am wrong about this guy, but the tone of his post really suggested that his priorities are way off.

I think you are looking at it in the wrong way. I didn't get the impression the he wants to go out and have fun while his classmates go to class and learn. I think he's asking because he may seriously not get anything out of going to lecture and can make better use of his time studying on his own versus sitting in class for 8hrs a day. I've read countless posts of medical students who are at schools with mandatory attendence complained that going to class is such a wasted of time for them. You pay tuition at medical school for YOUR education and not for someone else's. IMHO, I think its very selfish for you or anyone else to judge someone or question the ability to succeed in medical because they don't go to class.

 

[sideways]

OP: whether class attendance is mandatory is one of the most relevant questions to be asked when deciding upon which schools to ELIMINATE from your acceptance pile.

While all med students will belly-laugh at the blatant naivete of the two fruitcake grass-fairy pre-meds posting above, mandatory attendance can really F you over. You overlook the school policy and next thing you know, six months later, you're in a musty lecture hall at 8:00 am while some middle-aged goofball in a paisley tie and ill-fitting slacks is droning on for 2 hrs, reciting, word-for-word, his rancidly designed Powerpoint equipped with a color-scheme that would make Helen Keller take a melon-baller to her eyes.

Meanwhile, you have an exam the next day that demands you spend every waking moment studying for it. So your priority in life is not Male-Pattern-Balding-Man's super-lecture that you're being forced to sit through, but you haven't the choice to make that very important decision for yourself. So now, if you want to pass the exam and not get kicked out of med school, you have no choice but to sit in the back of the room, on the 10-yr old carpet, next to the stain of old gum with 3 pubic hairs flailing out of it, donning your Bose Quiet Comforts and asking yourself: why in the **** didn't I create a thread on SDN asking which schools have mandatory attendance?

 

[PunkmedGirl]

^^^^ I agree. LOL (Trying not to be a big meanie....Geeze, its hard sometime to resist a jab)

 

[tumartin10]

I think that everyone is being way to harsh. personally have never missed a lecture but that is just my style of learning. I have friends that literally show up for anatomy and osteopathic manipulative medicine labs. They just learn better alone. Not sure it is fair to say that someone does not deserve to be a doctor just because they have a slightly different learning style. I say if it work, stick with it and best of luck!

 

[DarkHorizon]

About NSU's attendance policy...

I am a M1 at Nova, and the faculty told us on the 1st day of school that we are supposed to swipe in every class so that our attendance is recorded (they also went on to tell us how we are not supposed to swipe in for other people and that there are serious consequences). We are required to attend around 70% of the classes or more before they start to deduct from our grades.

That being said, I forget to swipe in half of the time, half of the class does not attend most lectures (except the critical ones) and those who do not attend and afraid they may actually be taking our attendance, still have others swipe in for them so they do not get counted as absent. All in all, I do not think they are actually recording our attendance nor will they deduct points. I think it will only become effective if someone is failing the class and needs help, and they can go back and check to see if the person has been attending classes or not.

Of course, our labs are mandatory attendance in which if you are absent, you have to make up at a later time with one of the TAs.

My first year attendance was probably less than 20%, I haven't swiped in for a single lecture this year so far, even the ones I attended. The only class you will get in trouble for not attending is MHS, you can skip histo, anatomy, and neuroanatomy labs too, no one cares. Of course be smart about it and pass all your classes or else you'd be in trouble from what I have heard.

 

[TriagePreMed]

Honestly, it's infuriating that you will be competing for the limited number of D.O. seats with an attitude like that. You hate going to class? How exactly do you expect to become a quality physician without going to class? Do you think you can learn all you need from a textbook? If you really feel this way, med school isn't for you.

You know, I always attend every lecture and lab, but I wouldn't want to be obligated to do so. I'm an adult and expect my school to treat me as one. I don't want to feel that I got a mommy and daddy on top of me. This is why I never stay in classes with mandatory attendance. Sorry to break it to you, but not everyone wants out of that arrangement because they expect to skip or something similar. Would you go to a school that forces you to study 8 hours daily? Why not? You want to be a quality physician right?

 

[millepora]

Class only benefits people who learn better through auditory. Otherwise, it is a waste of time because you can study far more efficient at your own pace.

Personally, I think schools that have mandatory attendance policies are jokes. I prefer not feel like I am in high school again. Also, schools with dress codes, don't get me started...

I wonder if there is correlation between schools with lower admissions averages and attendance/dress code policies. I have never looked into it, but it would make sense. I also find it odd this is mostly a DO trend, I never usually hear of it with allopathic schools.

 

[theone1979]

OP: whether class attendance is mandatory is one of the most relevant questions to be asked when deciding upon which schools to ELIMINATE from your acceptance pile.

While all med students will belly-laugh at the blatant naivete of the two fruitcake grass-fairy pre-meds posting above, mandatory attendance can really F you over. You overlook the school policy and next thing you know, six months later, you're in a musty lecture hall at 8:00 am while some middle-aged goofball in a paisley tie and ill-fitting slacks is droning on for 2 hrs, reciting, word-for-word, his rancidly designed Powerpoint equipped with a color-scheme that would make Helen Keller take a melon-baller to her eyes.

Meanwhile, you have an exam the next day that demands you spend every waking moment studying for it. So your priority in life is not Male-Pattern-Balding-Man's super-lecture that you're being forced to sit through, but you haven't the choice to make that very important decision for yourself. So now, if you want to pass the exam and not get kicked out of med school, you have no choice but to sit in the back of the room, on the 10-yr old carpet, next to the stain of old gum with 3 pubic hairs flailing out of it, donning your Bose Quiet Comforts and asking yourself: why in the **** didn't I create a thread on SDN asking which schools have mandatory attendance?

One of the easiest things in the world to do is refute an argument that was never made in the first place.

You did a great job at setting up some extreme scenario in which it would obviously make sense to skip a class and study instead.....but no one was making an argument against that.

What I was stating was that med school just might not be the best choice for someone who, before having attended his first class, announces that he "hates going to class".

It's not as though this guy is in school and is talking about some worthless prof who provides no insight into the coursework, he is announcing that he fundamentally has a problem (hates actually), going to class.
But hey, Im just a pre-med, maybe hating the whole concept of "class" isn't an issue in med school.

 

[randomusername]

Sideways is right, and it isn't an extreme scenario in med school, it's a frequent occurrence (granted, the room might be a bit nicer if you're at a place with newer facilities). I started out going to every lecture this quarter, by about midterm I realized how much of a waste of my time it was and now I only go to histo, labs, and review sessions (and I was the type that went to every lecture in undergrad and took copious amounts of notes). Grades haven't suffered, stress has gone down, sleep-time has increased, study time has increased, sdn time has increased, etc.

 

[willen101383]

While I am well aware that students study differently, your last comment is quite harsh and makes you come off as a snob, whether or not this true. Im sorry that I feel that not going to class is A) a waste of your own tuition B) a waste of the prof's time if not many students show up. I just feel a spot like this could go to a student who would maximize the value of class time and thus become an excellent doctor.

These are poor habits from undergrad and i very much doubt many students succeed carrying this habit over to medical school which is rigorous. I imagine many of the students who drop out of med school are these types of students. This is a waste of a seat

Dude your posts show your ignorance on this topic. Hardly anyone actually goes to class in med school. If you go to a school where classes are all webstreamed its a complete and utter waste of time. I havent been to class since probably the 2nd week of class....and somehow am somewhere in the top half my class (we dont get ranked yet so all I know is I score above average on exams). Guess I wont be an excellent doctor 🙄

 

[IvyHopeful20]

Honestly, it's infuriating that you will be competing for the limited number of D.O. seats with an attitude like that. You hate going to class? How exactly do you expect to become a quality physician without going to class? Do you think you can learn all you need from a textbook? If you really feel this way, med school isn't for you.

Lol what? At least half the class doesn't Vito lectures at med schools. They are recorded so people can watch them from home at 1.5 speed or whenever they want. Don't be ridiculous. People have different preferences.

 

[wolverinepwns]

I just want to add to what the above poster mentioned and say: Whether you go to lecture or not , 80% if not more of what you learn the first two years of medschool you will teach yourself regardless of what program you go to, lecture or no lecture!

 

[denco88]

Sideways is right, and it isn't an extreme scenario in med school, it's a frequent occurrence (granted, the room might be a bit nicer if you're at a place with newer facilities). I started out going to every lecture this quarter, by about midterm I realized how much of a waste of my time it was and now I only go to histo, labs, and review sessions (and I was the type that went to every lecture in undergrad and took copious amounts of notes). Grades haven't suffered, stress has gone down, sleep-time has increased, study time has increased, sdn time has increased, etc.

Do most professors at AZCOM record and post lectures? They told us on our interview it was up to them since all of their info is copyrighted.

 

[willen101383]

Since I stopped going to class my stress level has completely dropped off to next to nothing.

My typical day (for a few more days since anatomy is over at the end of next week)

Wake up at 845.
Check my e mail/facebook/cnn from bed for like a half hr.
Shower and get to anatomy for 10:00 lab
Depart lab around 1:00 and come home.
Lunch
More web surfing
Watch one lecture online and take all notes I need
Surf web more
Watch another lecture and take all notes I need
Do my laundry or something.
I am done with lectures by about 630 and my fiance gets home
Crack a beer.

My typical classgoing classmates day:

Wake up at 645 and rush to get to class ontime to get a seat (otherwise you will be standing or sitting in back)
Listen to back to back lectures until anatomy lab for 3 hours.
Fraternize with other hyperanxious medical students and start to become more anxious over "all the material on the next exam"
Eat lunch and then go to back to back lectures
Fraternize with additional hyperanxious med students and totally begin to freakout over how much I dont know that others know.
Begin shaking.
Come home and re go over all the lectures again because I wasnt able to pause and replay parts of the lecture I didnt understand.
Finally finish this around 1030pm.
Toss and turn in bed for 3 hours because I am so anxious about med school and how I am going to fail the next exam.


Yeah...f that. I always have the best seat in the house for all lectures, am never anxious, am doing really well and loving life.

The key in med school is to avoid exposure to most med students at all costs!!

 

[sideways]

One of the easiest things in the world to do is refute an argument that was never made in the first place.

You did a great job at setting up some extreme scenario in which it would obviously make sense to skip a class and study instead.....but no one was making an argument against that.

What I was stating was that med school just might not be the best choice for someone who, before having attended his first class, announces that he "hates going to class".

It's not as though this guy is in school and is talking about some worthless prof who provides no insight into the coursework, he is announcing that he fundamentally has a problem (hates actually), going to class.
But hey, Im just a pre-med, maybe hating the whole concept of "class" isn't an issue in med school.

Extreme scenario? Insight into coursework?

Dude, you have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[PunkmedGirl]

Does PCOM-GA tape their lectures too? I guess a better question would be which schools tape their lectures?

 

[drctother]

You and theone condemn the OP and any other student who may feel that going to lecture is a waste of time and believe that these students should not be allowed to "waste a spot" in medical school, but I'm the one that's stirring the pot? I merely pointed out that all medical students don't go to class all the time or at all, but still manage to succeed.

Ok thank you for being much more nice about it and yes I have seen your viewpoint as well as a few others, and now that I rethink it, it is probably possible for success. However, I was picturing the extreme and I guess you arent. I was picturing a student attending intro lecture and thats it. I suppose the OP is probably not this extreme and is a person who goes to lecture say once a week or something

 

[drctother]

OP: whether class attendance is mandatory is one of the most relevant questions to be asked when deciding upon which schools to ELIMINATE from your acceptance pile.

While all med students will belly-laugh at the blatant naivete of the two fruitcake grass-fairy pre-meds posting above, mandatory attendance can really F you over. You overlook the school policy and next thing you know, six months later, you're in a musty lecture hall at 8:00 am while some middle-aged goofball in a paisley tie and ill-fitting slacks is droning on for 2 hrs, reciting, word-for-word, his rancidly designed Powerpoint equipped with a color-scheme that would make Helen Keller take a melon-baller to her eyes.

Meanwhile, you have an exam the next day that demands you spend every waking moment studying for it. So your priority in life is not Male-Pattern-Balding-Man's super-lecture that you're being forced to sit through, but you haven't the choice to make that very important decision for yourself. So now, if you want to pass the exam and not get kicked out of med school, you have no choice but to sit in the back of the room, on the 10-yr old carpet, next to the stain of old gum with 3 pubic hairs flailing out of it, donning your Bose Quiet Comforts and asking yourself: why in the **** didn't I create a thread on SDN asking which schools have mandatory attendance?

Whats your problem?! thats literally the harshest most immature comment I have ever heard on SDN in several years over a such a randoom topic which should in NO WAY offend anyone except the OP, if that. Im not saying anything about URMs or at you directly, yet you go out of the way to say such ridiculous things about me and TheOne. Wow, didnt know there was that low on SDN

 

[sideways]

Whats your problem?! thats literally the harshest most immature comment I have ever heard on SDN in several years over a such a randoom topic which should in NO WAY offend anyone except the OP, if that. Im not saying anything about URMs or at you directly, yet you go out of the way to say such ridiculous things about me and TheOne. Wow, didnt know there was that low on SDN

 

[surfer4life722]

Since I stopped going to class my stress level has completely dropped off to next to nothing.

My typical day (for a few more days since anatomy is over at the end of next week)

Wake up at 845.
Check my e mail/facebook/cnn from bed for like a half hr.
Shower and get to anatomy for 10:00 lab
Depart lab around 1:00 and come home.
Lunch
More web surfing
Watch one lecture online and take all notes I need
Surf web more
Watch another lecture and take all notes I need
Do my laundry or something.
I am done with lectures by about 630 and my fiance gets home
Crack a beer.

My typical classgoing classmates day:

Wake up at 645 and rush to get to class ontime to get a seat (otherwise you will be standing or sitting in back)
Listen to back to back lectures until anatomy lab for 3 hours.
Fraternize with other hyperanxious medical students and start to become more anxious over "all the material on the next exam"
Eat lunch and then go to back to back lectures
Fraternize with additional hyperanxious med students and totally begin to freakout over how much I dont know that others know.
Begin shaking.
Come home and re go over all the lectures again because I wasnt able to pause and replay parts of the lecture I didnt understand.
Finally finish this around 1030pm.
Toss and turn in bed for 3 hours because I am so anxious about med school and how I am going to fail the next exam.


Yeah...f that. I always have the best seat in the house for all lectures, am never anxious, am doing really well and loving life.

The key in med school is to avoid exposure to most med students at all costs!!

Yeah...f that. I always have the best seat in the house for all lectures, am never anxious, am doing really well and loving life.

The key in med school is to avoid exposure to most med students at all costs!![/.........

I AGREE 100%, since i stopped going to lectures, my grades have improved alot and I have almost no stress. Avoiding other med students is funny but i think it is true. It will bring unwanted stress and make you do even worse.

 

[theone1979]

Extreme scenario? Insight into coursework?

Dude, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Wow, you just move from one absurd, irrelevant form of argument to another with incredible dexterity.

Now you are simply taking statements I made and adding a question mark after it.

Let me give it a try..

Dude?
No idea what I'm talking about?

Dude, you have no idea what you are talking about.

If you have a point, try to make it. Don't just repeat statements I made and turn them into questions.

But let me try one more time.
You are defending someone who has never attended a single med class but has already decided that his criteria for med school is one that doesn't require attendance, simply because he "hates going to class".

He didn't say, "I have been attending med school for months and I have found the lectures to be pointless and I learn much better on my own". No, he just "hates class". Again, the fact that you don't think that might be a problem or a bad attitude for a student who is about to start his med school career, then there is nothing more I can say.

 

[PunkmedGirl]

Whats your problem?! thats literally the harshest most immature comment I have ever heard on SDN in several years over a such a randoom topic which should in NO WAY offend anyone except the OP, if that. Im not saying anything about URMs or at you directly, yet you go out of the way to say such ridiculous things about me and TheOne. Wow, didnt know there was that low on SDN

WTH does this have to do with the post directed at you??

 

[PunkmedGirl]

But let me try one more time.
You are defending someone who has never attended a single med class but has already decided that his criteria for med school is one that doesn't require attendance, simply because he "hates going to class".

And you are condemning him for knowing that going to lectures is not an effective way for him to learn. I think you both are still missing the point with what everyone is saying here including medical students who are chiming in on this discussion. Its not about going to class and being a good student when your in med school, its more about how can you effectively learn the material that is required for exams in the least stressful manner. Every medical student has to develop a strategy plan for how they can maximized their study time without going insane while managing to successfully pass classes. And yes, most of the time this includes avoiding going to class. I believe medical schools that don't enforce attendance are aware of this which may be the reason why they provide taped lectures or note services for their students. The point is you both were looking at the situation completely wrong and making ridiculous claims that this student (and other students who do this) are a disgrace to the profession of medicine. These claims that you both were making made it obvious as to how much you both don't have a clue as to what medical school is really like.

 

[BigBoosting]

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There is so much bickering going on lately. Mid-application season stress?

"Let me taste your tears!"

 

[sideways]

Wow, you just move from one absurd, irrelevant form of argument to another with incredible dexterity.

Now you are simply taking statements I made and adding a question mark after it.

Let me give it a try..

Dude?
No idea what I'm talking about?

Dude, you have no idea what you are talking about.

If you have a point, try to make it. Don't just repeat statements I made and turn them into questions.

But let me try one more time.
You are defending someone who has never attended a single med class but has already decided that his criteria for med school is one that doesn't require attendance, simply because he "hates going to class".

He didn't say, "I have been attending med school for months and I have found the lectures to be pointless and I learn much better on my own". No, he just "hates class". Again, the fact that you don't think that might be a problem or a bad attitude for a student who is about to start his med school career, then there is nothing more I can say.

I already made my point. And for the sake of clarity, nearly everything that comes from your fingertips is wrong, hence: "dude, you have no idea what you're talking about."

I know you think your advice is coming from a place of great wisdom, but do you not find it the slightest bit curious that you have medical students - you know, people in the thick of it - telling you you're a ***** with awful advice? And rather than ponder that and learn something from it, you pigheadedly continue spouting off flaccid defenses of your position. A position, once again, that is so incorrect it's laughable.

 

[PunkmedGirl]

I already made my point. And for the sake of clarity, nearly everything that comes from your fingertips is wrong, hence: "dude, you have no idea what you're talking about."

I know you think your advice is coming from a place of great wisdom, but do you not find it the slightest bit curious that you have medical students - you know, people in the thick of it - telling you you're a ***** with awful advice? And rather than ponder that and learn something from it, you pigheadedly continue spouting off flaccid defenses of your position. A position, once again, that is so incorrect it's laughable.

👍

 

[drctother]

You know at first I was going to write some long post lipping you off. But the more I look at this picture and re-read the posts, this pic is actually pretty funny lol so I will give you this one, after all this is the internet

 

[sideways]

You know at first I was going to write some long post lipping you off. But the more I look at this picture and re-read the posts, this pic is actually pretty funny lol so I will give you this one, after all this is the internet

I'm elevating your status in my mind. Now this thread only has one idiot.

 

[JamesLMT]

Oh arguing on the interwebs... It's like running in quicksand, try as you might, you never get anywhere.

I know it's easy to do, but everyone on here will hold their original viewpoints and argue to the death to defend them, even when proven wrong.

I guess it could be beneficial, you know working on your debate skills... oh wait all people do is name call and use invalid forms of debate...

Well there has to be something that threads like this are useful for....

OH YEAH! Answering the OP's questions.

Don't get me wrong, I fall into this all the time, I love "debating" on the web but eh... even premeds fall into the anonymous web douchery and can't stand resorting to calling names, ignoring counterarguments posts, using emotions instead of logic, etc.

This was just a side note, carry on and I will keep on reading and giggling to myself over my waffles...

 

[Dr Oops]

Ok thank you for being much more nice about it and yes I have seen your viewpoint as well as a few others, and now that I rethink it, it is probably possible for success. However, I was picturing the extreme and I guess you arent. I was picturing a student attending intro lecture and thats it. I suppose the OP is probably not this extreme and is a person who goes to lecture say once a week or something

I havent gone to class since the first week of M1. You jumped all over the OP and said he shouldnt have a spot wasted on him. You clearly have no idea what your talking about. Get off your horse and get some perspective before you condemn others about things u know nothing about.