olabrador23
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wow... clearly this is a hot topic
some questions for you guys:
-state medical schools favor in-state candidates over out-of-state students. They argue that their tax money should be reserved for state residents / students. They protect and reserve those coveted seats in their med schools for their own people. Anyone is losing sleep about that?
But it is ok to say that U.S. citizens do not deserve those residency spots funded by U.S. tax payer because they go to school over sea?
How about a bill and vote in Congress on this matter to see where the majority of the citizens of this country think and/or decide on instead of making the decision on this matter without asking what the American people think? I do not know if many of you have been paying taxes but I have paid plenty for decades, so a vote should be fair instead of someone throwing around their one opinion about what we should do.
If you think that non-FMG is superior to US IMG from the start, then do offer them residency on your own dimes. Until Congress votes otherwise, I want to spend my tax money on supporting qualified US IMGs first (yes they do have to prove themselves on standardized exams like anybody else). I want to support our own people first. Unless non-US FMG can prove that they are superior than US IMGs on those exams.
Answers to qualifications should be decided on standardized tests. Who gets the better score wins the spots. That should be fair then.
(Do you know many other countries would not let any foreign-trained doctor to ever practice there. E.g. Hongkong).
-Are the students with higher GPAs and MCATs always the ones who get admitted to US med schools?
-Step exams, the only standardized measure in the residency selection process, might possibly go P/F. Where is the meritocracy then?
-Some U.S. students fail Step multiple times (e.g. I read in some cases 6-7 times, USMLE - I finally passed! after failing 3 times) and still match. Can U.S. IMG and non-US FMG do the same? Does that sound like meritocracy?
-Some said that non-US FMG are top dogs in their own countries who are already experienced / established physicians there and should be favored over US IMG who went to Carib. Should those non-US FMG be superior to and favored in the residency match over most average US medical grads, MD and DO who have not even practiced yet?
-yes entitlement. Some already mentioned that US MD > DO >>> non US FMG > US IMG. Just b/c you go to schools to the U.S. or MD instead of DO does not mean you should be automatically favored in the match. You should prove your knowledge and skills on the same standardized exams to show that you are qualified and/or superior to anyone else in the same race regardless who you are, where you go to school, race, age, sex/gender, nationality, or religion (which are already stated by the Constitution-the Supreme Law of the land )
Imho, it is very hypocritical and self-serving to talk down US IMG as being not as qualified (they still have to prove themselves on the Steps like everyone else and do rotations in the US) or as self-serving. I see as much self-serving and hypocritical in the people who go to US med schools too. We all need to check ourselves in a mirror first
some questions for you guys:
-state medical schools favor in-state candidates over out-of-state students. They argue that their tax money should be reserved for state residents / students. They protect and reserve those coveted seats in their med schools for their own people. Anyone is losing sleep about that?
But it is ok to say that U.S. citizens do not deserve those residency spots funded by U.S. tax payer because they go to school over sea?
How about a bill and vote in Congress on this matter to see where the majority of the citizens of this country think and/or decide on instead of making the decision on this matter without asking what the American people think? I do not know if many of you have been paying taxes but I have paid plenty for decades, so a vote should be fair instead of someone throwing around their one opinion about what we should do.
If you think that non-FMG is superior to US IMG from the start, then do offer them residency on your own dimes. Until Congress votes otherwise, I want to spend my tax money on supporting qualified US IMGs first (yes they do have to prove themselves on standardized exams like anybody else). I want to support our own people first. Unless non-US FMG can prove that they are superior than US IMGs on those exams.
Answers to qualifications should be decided on standardized tests. Who gets the better score wins the spots. That should be fair then.
(Do you know many other countries would not let any foreign-trained doctor to ever practice there. E.g. Hongkong).
-Are the students with higher GPAs and MCATs always the ones who get admitted to US med schools?
-Step exams, the only standardized measure in the residency selection process, might possibly go P/F. Where is the meritocracy then?
-Some U.S. students fail Step multiple times (e.g. I read in some cases 6-7 times, USMLE - I finally passed! after failing 3 times) and still match. Can U.S. IMG and non-US FMG do the same? Does that sound like meritocracy?
-Some said that non-US FMG are top dogs in their own countries who are already experienced / established physicians there and should be favored over US IMG who went to Carib. Should those non-US FMG be superior to and favored in the residency match over most average US medical grads, MD and DO who have not even practiced yet?
The amount of entitlement in this thread is nauseating. Nobody "deserves" a residency. If you want to practice medicine in the US, make yourself a competitive applicant. While some slip through the cracks, the vast majority of people who don't match are not qualified to match. Whether it is poor board performance, professionalism issues, poor clinical evaluations, etc....the FMG that obtained a spot over a US graduate didn't "steal" it...he/she earned it, period.
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-yes entitlement. Some already mentioned that US MD > DO >>> non US FMG > US IMG. Just b/c you go to schools to the U.S. or MD instead of DO does not mean you should be automatically favored in the match. You should prove your knowledge and skills on the same standardized exams to show that you are qualified and/or superior to anyone else in the same race regardless who you are, where you go to school, race, age, sex/gender, nationality, or religion (which are already stated by the Constitution-the Supreme Law of the land )
Imho, it is very hypocritical and self-serving to talk down US IMG as being not as qualified (they still have to prove themselves on the Steps like everyone else and do rotations in the US) or as self-serving. I see as much self-serving and hypocritical in the people who go to US med schools too. We all need to check ourselves in a mirror first
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