Wish I had not come here.

[fightingspirit]

Oh and I forgot to mention, most schools, if not absolutely all of them, really try their hardest to embelish their program to applicants and make it look so much better than what it really is. That's deceptive, and it happens all accross the board .....

And quite frankly we're doing the schools a favor, because if the feedback is so strong then they might notice the problem they've got on their hands and maybe they'll eventually try to deal with it.
.

agreed, but can you blame a school for selling itself to you or for "embelishing" its program by not disclosing its flaws? they want the best students and so they try to sell their program to the largest number of applicants possible. it's kinda like marketing through packaging. they make it look good in the outside to seduce the buyer. i do not expect a school's admissions dean to say "actually, our sim lab needs to be fixed and our dental anatomy professor is a horrible lecturer; oh, our preclinical lab is also run down"....also, if a school follows your suggestion, mentioning the good and the bad about the school during the interview process,then that school would be disadvantaged because it cannot be certain that other dental schools are being equally forthcoming and honest. moreover, if you are applying to professional school, they kinda expect you to be smart enough to realize the flaws of the school before hand. the burden of researching and finding the right school is on the applicant.

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[MrVagus]

Schools lose money regardless of how much tuition they are taking in. Dental school is a tough business.

You stated it perfectly. Interpretation : Tough for students, Business for universities

 

[piko00]

Schools lose money regardless of how much tuition they are taking in. Dental school is a tough business.

You stated it perfectly. Interpretation : Tough for students, Business for universities

lol.. good one..

 

[TucsonDDS]

I am just finishing my 2nd year at Buffalo and I feel that the majority of the instructors really are there for the students. Most are available outside of class for help and I don't think any are out to "get you". I do feel that a couple will ride you extra hard if they don't really like you but that is life and happens everywhere. I plan on giving back to Buffalo, most likely in the form of a scholarship for students and not directly to the school.

For Psi's friend, I really feel sorry for him, having a sick child, let alone two sick children at the same time, is very stressful. The school should have told him from the start how difficult it was going to be for him during that time and should have given him the option to take the year off. I may sound like an A$$Hole but if he doesn't fullfil the requirements by graduation he shouldn't be allowed to graduate and I think he would have been better off just taking the year off and spending it with his kids instead of worrying about school. Now if the school didn't give him that chance then I would have some serious problems and get a lawyer.

And I definitely agree with Toofache about telling instructors what they want to hear instead of the right answer. I had a path class and the question was what enzymes are elevated in an MI. I answered Troponins and CKMB. I got the question wrong, he was looking for LDH. I am sure that answer was probably right 30 years ago but things have changed in the last 3 decades. I also said shortness of breath was a sign of pneumonia, apparently that was wrong also.

 

[mokie]

You know, here's the thing. Dental school isn't easy, a lot of times it isn't fun, and a lot of times it just plain sucks. I think that across the board, every dental school has enough bureaucracy and bull**** to make your head spin. Every school has its share of ass-hat instructors...dental schools seem to attract them like bees to honey. But like every other exprience in life, it is what you make of it.
My suggestion is to do your research before choosing a school- make the most of your interviews and find out as much as you can. Talk to students and alumni about their experiences as much as possible. Then, when you have all the information you can possibly gather, make the choice that is best for you. Once you've made your choice, tell yourself that you are in it 100% for the next four years and make the best of it. You can make yourself miserable real quick fretting over the injustices of dental school, or you can learn to play the game and just get through it.

 

[sadaf]

Hello to all,
Any horror story and facts if somebody knows about stonybrook dental school,i am interested to go in this school,so far not a good impression about it
Thanks

 

[stepping stone]

hi everyone,
could you all please share your views and experiences about NYUCD as i got accepted here.........i mean are there enough patients for such a big pool of students, how is the student-instructor interaction and what is the competition among the classmates.........i still have to apply to ca universities but got accepted here first.........i am in real dilemma as to drop it and just concentrate on ca or just grab this opportunity as its becoming very competitive.......plz advice.....
thanks.

 

[HermeytheElf]

Hello to all,
Any horror story and facts if somebody knows about stonybrook dental school,i am interested to go in this school,so far not a good impression about it
Thanks

Every dental school has a myriad of horror stories. It's best not to know until you have to...ignorance is bliss.

 

[BigEd]

BigEd, reading your post one would think graduate school is a shelter for homeless misfits who should be happy just to have a roof over their heads!

These schools make a lot of money from their students and in return they owe them some level of respect and fairness. Not all of us share your inferiority complex.

i hope your not talking bout them makin money from us on just tuition alone.

Ive paid 35,000 this year for supplies and tuition.

tuition was more like 16k.

not much money in my book.

 

[docj1]

You know, here's the thing. Dental school isn't easy, a lot of times it isn't fun, and a lot of times it just plain sucks. I think that across the board, every dental school has enough bureaucracy and bull**** to make your head spin. Every school has its share of ass-hat instructors...dental schools seem to attract them like bees to honey. But like every other exprience in life, it is what you make of it.
My suggestion is to do your research before choosing a school- make the most of your interviews and find out as much as you can. Talk to students and alumni about their experiences as much as possible. Then, when you have all the information you can possibly gather, make the choice that is best for you. Once you've made your choice, tell yourself that you are in it 100% for the next four years and make the best of it. You can make yourself miserable real quick fretting over the injustices of dental school, or you can learn to play the game and just get through it.

This is the Important issue. While some DS instructors are hard on students, As a future dentist and CEO of your business you have to get a thick skin. While dental school may seem difficult or unfair at times, wait until you are out there practicing. You may just look back at some of those d---head instructors and realize that they(unknowingly) helped you to become a better dentist and CEO.

Dental school is not easy and shouldn't be.

"That which does not kill me makes me stronger"

 

[OceanDMD]

i hope your not talking bout them makin money from us on just tuition alone.

Ive paid 35,000 this year for supplies and tuition.

tuition was more like 16k.

not much money in my book.

I think you may be really underestimating how much it costs the school per student for their dental training. Although it was a few years ago, our financial advisor quoted a figure around 150 k per student. Go to your advisors and ask, I think you will be surprised.

 

[aphistis]

This is the Important issue. While some DS instructors are hard on students, As a future dentist and CEO of your business you have to get a thick skin. While dental school may seem difficult or unfair at times, wait until you are out there practicing. You may just look back at some of those d---head instructors and realize that they(unknowingly) helped you to become a better dentist and CEO.

Dental school is not easy and shouldn't be.

"That which does not kill me makes me stronger"

FYI: not everyone wants to become a business owner.

 

[tooth decay]

This is the Important issue. While some DS instructors are hard on students, As a future dentist and CEO of your business you have to get a thick skin. While dental school may seem difficult or unfair at times, wait until you are out there practicing. You may just look back at some of those d---head instructors and realize that they(unknowingly) helped you to become a better dentist and CEO.

Dental school is not easy and shouldn't be.

"That which does not kill me makes me stronger"

I think the distinction has to be made when one is mentored by a hostile teacher. For any number of reasons, an instructor may have a bad attitude: jealousy, anger issues, low pay, or whatever. The challenge is to discern the teacher as a person from what he or she is teaching. I do not think a student is necessarily supposed to be trained to become callous. After all, it is your compassion and your humanity that your patients will notice during your care.

A successful student will be able to learn the teaching without letting the instructor's hostile personality affect him or herself. Also, it will give the student opportunities to interact with extreme personalities (such will be the case with some of your patients) and develop good people skills. In other words, dealing with hostile instructors can be seen as part of the overall education experience.

 

[MaxAnn]

I think the distinction has to be made when one is mentored by a hostile teacher. For any number of reasons, an instructor may have a bad attitude: jealousy, anger issues, or whatever. The challenge is to discern the teacher as a person from what he or she is teaching. I do not think a student is necessarily supposed to develop to be callous. After all, it is your compassion and your humanity that your patients will notice during your care.

A successful student will be able to learn the teaching without letting the instructor's hostile personality affect him or herself. Also, it will give the student opportunities to interact with extreme personalities (such will be the case with some of your patients) and develop good people skills. In other words, dealing with hostile instructors can be seen as part of the overall education experience.

There is a lot of good advice in your words here. I just don't understand why so many dental instructors are bitter. Didn't they choose the profession as we dental students did? It wasn't like they were drafted and sent to Vietnam. It makes no sense. Couldn't they just leave if they are so unhappy?

Earlier in the post, someone mentioned that bitter instructors may have lacked the people skills to make it in the real world. There may be some truth to that. Using reason and common sense, why would any highly trained professional remain at a dental school working as an instructor for substandard pay if they could easily resign and make more money in private practice? Why are they torturing themselves?

There must be something keeping them "locked in" as instructors. Maybe it makes their "frank and beans" look bigger at night after they have spent all day chewing up students, or maybe they actually think they are preparing us for the real world? Irregardless of their motivation, there is no way I want to end up existing in such a realm of supreme self-indulgence.

 

[MsPurtell]

You've got to be kidding me.

I would think that this is where academic advisors/ counselors should be helpful, though I guess it would depend how much they would stick their necks out. I know in medical school, and I assume in dental school, that retention of students is a high priority. That is because it costs so much to train them. Most reputable schools would bend over backwards to help resolve a student's adverse circumstance if possible.

 

[MsPurtell]

The guy up and died of a heart attack a few years later!!! LMAO!

You know I really do have to keep in touch with a few peeps at my school so they can periodically update me on who kicks the bucket. Of course, I don't want to hear bad things about most of them....but there are a few whose demise I waiting to cheer for! And, from what I hear, one of em is already good and sick! Mwahahahahaha!

You are so right about the level of abuse of students that is allowed to go on in dental schools. I'm seeing a lot of people here misunderstand the difference between actual abuse and your run of the mill bs you get at dental school. I'm talking about abusive people who routinely harrassed students to the extent that I question the actual legality of their behavior.

Ha! You gotta be kidding me! Talk to anyone who's finished dental school (especially 20+ years ago). On my graduation day when I was standing in my cap & gown ready to graduate, one professor found me and said a 3rd-year student had seated a crown I prepped, and that the credit could not go to me. I told him it was an "extra" crown and I didn't need it to graduate anyway. dingus had a heart attack and died a couple years later...I didn't cry one tear for that a$$hole. There are many other stories, this was just the icing on the cake.

The amazing thing about dental school is the widespread and systematic abuse of students that occurs. I have yet to give a dime of alumni money, and I don't know if I ever will.

 

[piko00]

This is the Important issue. While some DS instructors are hard on students, As a future dentist and CEO of your business you have to get a thick skin. While dental school may seem difficult or unfair at times, wait until you are out there practicing. You may just look back at some of those d---head instructors and realize that they(unknowingly) helped you to become a better dentist and CEO.

Dental school is not easy and shouldn't be.

"That which does not kill me makes me stronger"

There's a difference between an instructor who slaps you with one hand and strokes you with the other for the purpose of making you a better dentist, and an instructor who's just always out there to get you.

 

[KingChris]

You're a dentist? I think that's a pretty harsh way to speak of others people's health, like em' or not, especially being a healthcare professional yourself, don't you?

The guy up and died of a heart attack a few years later!!! LMAO!

You know I really do have to keep in touch with a few peeps at my school so they can periodically update me on who kicks the bucket. Of course, I don't want to hear bad things about most of them....but there are a few whose demise I waiting to cheer for! And, from what I hear, one of em is already good and sick! Mwahahahahaha!

You are so right about the level of abuse of students that is allowed to go on in dental schools. I'm seeing a lot of people here misunderstand the difference between actual abuse and your run of the mill bs you get at dental school. I'm talking about abusive people who routinely harrassed students to the extent that I question the actual legality of their behavior.

 

[toofache32]

You're a dentist? I think that's a pretty harsh way to speak of others people's health, like em' or not, especially being a healthcare professional yourself, don't you?

Spend some time in the ER at a local hospital. THEN you will see why we have this sense of humor. Besides, the story I described was merely Poetic Justice, not some patient we are caring for.

 

[KingChris]

I wasn't talking about your post, I was referring to MsPurtell's post about wanting to see her peers get sick, or kick the bucket. I just thought that was in very poor taste, there's nothing funny about that.

 

[docj1]

FYI: not everyone wants to become a business owner.

Most Dentists GP or specialist become business owners.

The real trick is to learn what you can in DS without letting it change the way you treat patients. I had a great mentor in DS who was in his mid 70's at the time. He was probably not the greatest dentist anymore, but he told me something that sticks with me today. He said treat every patient as if they were one of your family members and you won't go wrong. This "old man's" take on the practice of dentistry made all the bitterness of some other instructors just disappear. The fact is that dentistry as a profession is different for each dentist. Maybe some don't want to be business owners, but as a dentist you will still need to deal with tremendous amounts of STRESS. This is why I say that it may not be such a bad thing to encounter some instructors who give you Stress and grief. I do agree that some instructors are bitter. But when you think about it, you only have to deal with them for a very small portion of your career.

 

[docj1]

I think the distinction has to be made when one is mentored by a hostile teacher. For any number of reasons, an instructor may have a bad attitude: jealousy, anger issues, low pay, or whatever. The challenge is to discern the teacher as a person from what he or she is teaching. I do not think a student is necessarily supposed to be trained to become callous. After all, it is your compassion and your humanity that your patients will notice during your care.

A successful student will be able to learn the teaching without letting the instructor's hostile personality affect him or herself. Also, it will give the student opportunities to interact with extreme personalities (such will be the case with some of your patients) and develop good people skills. In other words, dealing with hostile instructors can be seen as part of the overall education experience.

Exactly

 

[MsPurtell]

Who died and made you Mr. Morality?

Walk a mile in my shoes before judging me a$$hole.

Yes, I do wish my harrasser a very long, very painful, natural death. This person brought me great harm and damn near left a mark on my very soul.

I'm a very compassionate person, but I'm nobody's fool. I spent years voluteering taking care of cancer patients in their last weeks and days of life, just trying to bring them a moment of peace or solace here and there. I'm capable of the ultimate compassion where it is called for, but I'm capable of the deepest hatred as well, where it's called for.

If you have a problem with that, then don't read my posts.

I wasn't talking about your post, I was referring to MsPurtell's post about wanting to see her peers get sick, or kick the bucket. I just thought that was in very poor taste, there's nothing funny about that.

 

[DirtyMolar]

Who died and made you Mr. Morality?

Walk a mile in my shoes before judging me a$$hole.

Yes, I do wish my harrasser a very long, very painful, natural death. This person brought me great harm and damn near left a mark on my very soul.

I'm a very compassionate person, but I'm nobody's fool. I spent years voluteering taking care of cancer patients in their last weeks and days of life, just trying to bring them a moment of peace or solace here and there. I'm capable of the ultimate compassion where it is called for, but I'm capable of the deepest hatred as well, where it's called for.

If you have a problem with that, then don't read my posts.

Wow...somebody is definately in need of some therapy

 

[psiyung]

Wow...somebody is definately in need of some therapy

And someone needs a refund from their alma mater

 

[MsPurtell]

You know, it's not really funny.....I did end up in therapy and on meds. So did a few other classmates. It really has impacted my life.

Wow...somebody is definately in need of some therapy

 

[tooth decay]

You know, it's not really funny.....I did end up in therapy and on meds. So did a few other classmates. It really has impacted my life.

I empathize with you. It is unfortunate that there are people that we encounter that can turn our anger into rage (aka deep hatred with physical manifestations). I can tell you from personal experience that even though there are people out there that can push our buttons, in the end, it is us who allow these provocative people to steal our peace and joy. Even from his grave, this ill willed teacher is able to cause you to be angry. I am similarly dealing with anger caused by frustrating circumstances and situations beyond my control.

I hope you are successfully dealing with the anger/depression/ hurt that your traumatic experiences have left you with. Be assured, you are not alone. Many of us live in the same house as you do.

 

[ClassicalGuitar]

we need more people like 'tooth decay' in the world.

Take care everyone

 

[MsPurtell]

Thanks, tooth decay.

I think perhaps I should take a break from the boards here....brings up to many memories.

I empathize with you. It is unfortunate that there are people that we encounter that can turn our anger into rage (aka deep hatred with physical manifestations). I can tell you from personal experience that even though there are people out there that can push our buttons, in the end, it is us who allow these provocative people to steal our peace and joy. Even from his grave, this ill willed teacher is able to cause you to be angry. I am similarly dealing with anger caused by frustrating circumstances and situations beyond my control.

I hope you are successfully dealing with the anger/depression/ hurt that your traumatic experiences have left you with. Be assured, you are not alone. Many of us live in the same house as you do.

 

[SirShagaLot]

You know, it's not really funny.....I did end up in therapy and on meds. So did a few other classmates. It really has impacted my life.

holy $H!&, where did u go to d-school again?

 

[MaxAnn]

It really doesn't matter where she went to school because there are A$$holes in dentistry all over the country. Some schools have a more serious infestation than others, but for the most part, every school has them, sort of like roaches.

 

[MsPurtell]

True. The only school I haven't heard this about is UoP. That's where I'd send my kid. I don't care what the cost is.

Oh, and for the person who asked, I went to UConn. My issue with the school itself relates to the experiences I mentioned. I can't say more because I don't wish to find myself in a legal web (although I have endless ammo).

It really doesn't matter where she went to school because there are A$$holes in dentistry all over the country. Some schools have a more serious infestation than others, but for the most part, every school has them, sort of like roaches.

 

[Rube]

D school is tough because it is 4 years of stress and during the entire time you are dependent on others (instead of yourself alone) to graduate. I have never been to law or graduate school but I think you can pretty much pass exams and meet your deadlines and graduate from those places. In D school you depend on professors and clinic instructors to open clinical gates for you along the way. That's why people are so stressed out.. It sucks to have someone else determining your future for 4 years. However that is the system that we all have to operate in.

 

[afrosheen]

actually in law school they don't care if you drop out, unlike d school. on the first day they say "look on your left, look on your right, at the end of three years, one of you will not be here."

 

[Rube]

...Earlier in the post, someone mentioned that bitter instructors may have lacked the people skills to make it in the real world. There may be some truth to that. Using reason and common sense, why would any highly trained professional remain at a dental school working as an instructor for substandard pay if they could easily resign and make more money in private practice? Why are they torturing themselves? ...

I'm not sure I agree with your reason and common sense. Don't get me wrong, we all know some who lack people skills to make it and we assume this is why they teach, but some people choose to be educators. I know when we are coming up and strapped with debt and anticipating a family this is difficult to see this as a valid choice. However, educating others and seeing them succeed because of your efforts is very rewarding. Some think this high level of satisfaction that comes in education is equal to or greater than a higher income pp lifestyle. I'm not saying I'd do it, but I see their point.

 

[MaxAnn]

I'm not sure I agree with your reason and common sense. Don't get me wrong, we all know some who lack people skills to make it and we assume this is why they teach, but some people choose to be educators. I know when we are coming up and strapped with debt and anticipating a family this is difficult to see this as a valid choice. However, educating others and seeing them succeed because of your efforts is very rewarding. Some think this high level of satisfaction that comes in education is equal to or greater than a higher income pp lifestyle. I'm not saying I'd do it, but I see their point.

The reasoning behind my post is straight-forward: I don't see why any disgruntled dental instructor would remain so when there are opportunities for them to work elsewhere?

This question doesn't assume that all dental instructors are walking around holding hands and singing through the halls or verbally assaulting all in their path, but it does speak to the issue about clearly unhappy dental instructors who remain so for years on end.

Let's look at it this way: Maybe what I or someone else considers to be negative behavior isn't and most jerks think they are actually amicable and effective at their jobs. We could go further and speculate that maybe a disgruntled or truly bitter dental instructor's behavior is due to circumstances outside of their career; family, personal health, etc.

Either way, it is clear (without generalizing too much) that some dental instructors have a disdain for students and their work alike; seemingly only content to discount and repudiate dental students at every opportunity instead of seeing their pupils succeed.

Contrary to popular belief, dental schools are supposed to exist for the students, not for egomaniacs who have exhausted all other career options because of intolerable character flaws.

Lastly, I believe the majority of complaints posted here ranging from harassment to inconsistent grading to all out war with a particular administration to be true.

Why? Because I have dealt with all that before myself or seen it first-hand. If you are in dental school and have had the good fortune to not witness much of the garbage detailed in this post, then I congratulate you. In fact, I envy you.

 

[MaxAnn]

actually in law school they don't care if you drop out, unlike d school. on the first day they say "look on your left, look on your right, at the end of three years, one of you will not be here."

No offense to you, but I don't give a dam what any law school does.

You are not the first to use this reasoning, and I have never understood it. Would you or anyone here be satisfied in saying that "the high school where I attended didn't care if you could read either." No Way.

I would even go further and say that any school (dental, law, med, etc) that doesn't work to support (not spoon feed) its students is a questionable institution.

 

[Rube]

...Either way, it is clear (without generalizing too much) that some dental instructors have a disdain for students and their work alike; seemingly only content to discount and repudiate dental students at every opportunity instead of seeing their pupils succeed.

Contrary to popular belief, dental schools are supposed to exist for the students, not for egomaniacs who have exhausted all other career options because of intolerable character flaws.

Lastly, I believe the majority of complaints posted here ranging from harassment to inconsistent grading to all out war with a particular administration to be true.

Why? Because I have dealt with all that before myself or seen it first-hand. If you are in dental school and have had the good fortune to not witness much of the garbage detailed in this post, then I congratulate you. In fact, I envy you.

I do believe every post here to be sincere and I have experienced at some level what my fellow students are talking about. So first off I acknowledge what you are saying. However I don't understand why dental professors are more bitter than corporate bosses or law school professors. I don't feel anyone here has made a convincing case that D school sucks because a bunch of "dicks" are running the dental schools. If you subscribe to that view, why would there be such an overwhelming number of bad apples in D-school, but not law or business? Don't get me wrong, there are instructors I feel crappy towards because they failed me on a prep or competency. But are they really mostly egomaniacs?

The more likely reality is that it is a combination of natural student stress brought about by 4 years of jumping through hoops, being dependent on others and the subjective nature of grading a crown prep which breeds suspicion.

 

[DeeEmDee]

I don't feel anyone here has made a convincing case that D school sucks because a bunch of "dicks" are running the dental schools. If you subscribe to that view, why would there be such an overwhelming number of bad apples in D-school, but not law or business?

The difference between the income earned by Law/Med professors in academia vs. private practice isn't as significant as that of Dental instructors.

In the dental field there is far more money to be had in private practice, which is one reason dental schools have a hard time recruiting professors. While some may actually enjoy teaching, in a lot of instances dentists work in dental schools because things went wrong somewhere along the way. That explains the hostility and vindictiveness a lot of dental students complain about.

 

[BigEd]

This is the Important issue. While some DS instructors are hard on students, As a future dentist and CEO of your business you have to get a thick skin. While dental school may seem difficult or unfair at times, wait until you are out there practicing. You may just look back at some of those d---head instructors and realize that they(unknowingly) helped you to become a better dentist and CEO.

Dental school is not easy and shouldn't be.

"That which does not kill me makes me stronger"

doubtful.

 

[seansk]

What are you talking about . No one gets up at 5:30am to book appointments. They usually arrive at 4:30am to begin forming line. Its not that you cant book appointments for clinic chairs during the day. Its mostly due to the fact those persons who do get up to at those time are trying to get a specific discipline on a specific day at a specific time and/or with a specific instructor. But if you value your sanity and sleep, then you can always book appointments later in the day but who knows which days and time your chair might be available.

I hope the person who was patronizing USC for the longest time, knows about this!!!

 

[SuperC]

Everything is great here at UF

 

[BigEd]

BigEd, reading your post one would think graduate school is a shelter for homeless misfits who should be happy just to have a roof over their heads!

These schools make a lot of money from their students and in return they owe them some level of respect and fairness. Not all of us share your inferiority complex.

I knew from reading your 4 posts that you were not even in dental school. Your crazy about how much we pay to go to dental school.

I go to a state school and very little of the money I pay goes toward tuition. Mostly its to fees, taxes, equipment.

you have a lot to learn, grow up and get a life and quit posting on the DENTAL STUDENTS website.

 

[BigEd]

BigEd, reading your post one would think graduate school is a shelter for homeless misfits who should be happy just to have a roof over their heads!

These schools make a lot of money from their students and in return they owe them some level of respect and fairness. Not all of us share your inferiority complex.

I knew from reading your 4 posts that you were not even in dental school. Your crazy about how much we pay to go to dental school.

I go to a state school and very little of the money I pay goes toward tuition. Mostly its to fees, taxes, equipment.

you have a lot to learn, grow up and get a life and quit posting on the DENTAL STUDENTS website.

 

[OceanDMD]

I knew from reading your 4 posts that you were not even in dental school. Your crazy about how much we pay to go to dental school.

I go to a state school and very little of the money I pay goes toward tuition. Mostly its to fees, taxes, equipment.

you have a lot to learn, grow up and get a life and quit posting on the DENTAL STUDENTS website.

Its nice to see we have an expert in all aspects of dentistry posting here on a "DENTAL STUDENTS website". Thanks bigED for your expertise about dentistry, tuition allocation, how usefull this website is, and of course the coolest looking loupes. Im surprised you are even required to complete 4 years of d-school to get your dmd/dds degree with your dental knowledge.

 

[DeeEmDee]

I knew from reading your 4 posts that you were not even in dental school. Your crazy about how much we pay to go to dental school.

I go to a state school and very little of the money I pay goes toward tuition. Mostly its to fees, taxes, equipment.

you have a lot to learn, grow up and get a life and quit posting on the DENTAL STUDENTS website.

awww...what's the matter eddy? Is something bothering you? I mean, first it was the profanity laced PM, now this!

Did I hurt your feelings when I got on your case for making 15 threads begging people to help you buy loupes?

Instead of wasting time with me why don't you go start 6 different threads asking people to help you find the off switch on your laptop. Don't let that whole IQ thing get you down. It's way overrated. Keep on trukin' little fella.

 

[aphistis]

It's been taken care of, guys. Knock it off, please.

 

[Jaybe]

Great,

A thread dedicated to whining about how tough dental school is. Classy. How about this, we are all going to be in the top 2% of wage earners in the US, and therefore the world. So quit bitchin.

 

[MaxAnn]

Great,

A thread dedicated to whining about how tough dental school is. Classy. How about this, we are all going to be in the top 2% of wage earners in the US, and therefore the world. So quit bitchin.

After reading all this (presumably), I don't see why you would post this smart a$$ comment that speaks directly to the egomania expressed throughout this forum.

NO and I mean NO amount of money or lack thereof excuses responsibility for ones actions; no matter whether you are a dental instructor or practicing clinician or professional athlete or have a record deal.

As far as the bitchin comment: This isn't a blog, which is the closest thing that the internet has to a bitch session anyway, but an attempt to express reasoned contempt and ultimately shed light on hidden issues.

Universities all across the country, hosts and ironically invite students to rate (not judge) instructors because there are problems in universities as far as instruction quality or lack of it. Sadly, most schools don't do enough to actually head complaints, which is why certain issues repeatedly reoccur.

Dental schools are not immune from the ills of higher learning or the responsibilities of the institutions whose names they carry, nor should they be.

Literally counting on and reveling in the prospects of future earnings is a short-sighted way of dealing with consistent plagues of dental education.

That's like saying it is okay to get spit in the face because you are making a million dollars: That sort of demented reasoning didn't work for the fans in the stands or T.O. and dam sure won't work in dental school either.

 

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A thread dedicated to whining about how tough dental school is. Classy. How about this, we are all going to be in the top 2% of wage earners in the US, and therefore the world. So quit bitchin.

This original purpose of this thread is not to "whine about how tough dental school is." Rather, it is a forum for present (and former) dental students to help guide us predental students to adapt to dental school life through their own prior and present adverse experiences. This includes dealing with faculty, courses, or any other aspect of training. I agree with the prior writer that there is no correlation between wages earned and the amount of abuse one has during training.