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If you're going to go with a minimalist running shoe, forget the Vibrams... they look ridiculous. Merrell and New Balance both have very nice "barefoot" style running shoes that accomplish the same thing as VFF without making you look like an idiot. I have the New Balance Minimus and I really like them.
I've heard good things about the NB Minimus, but truth be told, no other shoe really replicates barefoot running like the VFFs. The soles of the NB Minimus are thicker and there's a 4mm toe to heal drop while the VFFs are perfectly neutral and 4 mm throughout. I'm not saying they're not good shoes because I've heard really good things, but it completely depends on what you're looking for in a shoe. If you want ones that simulate barefoot running, I don't think there's anything on the market that does it as well (and as goofy-looking) as the VFFs. NB Minimus is supposedly coming out with a neutral version soon, which I plan on checking out.
 
gotta chime in.

sounds like some fon (freak-of-nature) anesthesiologist/powerlifter/juggernauts on here. i would guess that most of us can't bench >300lbs, squat >400lbs, etc... (and have never juiced). more power to you behemoths/nfl prospects/etc.

i ran a little track in college (decathlon and pv), and continue to do the same workouts i did then - i weigh 5lbs more now, 15y later. 180, 6'1". my goal in training is to be fast, strong, lean, and versatile.

i lift 6d/week in 2 3d cycles. i hit the track 4-5d/week alternating sprint/plyo days with distance days. i can still run a mile in <5:20, 400m in 53s. bench 230, squat 285. workouts are supposed to be painful - this society is fat because they feel entitled to a pain free existence and watch too much tv/video games/net.

wtf is up with the barefoot shoes? they look ridiculous. i see a guy on the track in em - i run circles around him, and i'm not gonna have to take time out with fasciitis etc... just another fad

you don't need supplements if you eat right, in moderation. that goes for gatorade as well. unless you're an elite athlete, why do you think you need to replace the salt and sugar your body is designed to lose with exercise? this goes out to the heavy hittin hunny housewife next to me on the elliptical reading people swilling a liter of sugary saline - put water in your water bottle for crissakes.

balance with a little pain is the key - i work out 6d/week whether i want to or not, rain or shine. and i eat what i want, which includes a maple bar doughnut with bacon on top 3d/week chased with a double espresso, black.
 
Someone above mentioned figuring out your food intake first is crucial and I completely agree with that. Once I broke down what I was eating I realized I wasn't eating enough protein. Coupled with working out, I definitely wasn't getting enough protein. I try to do the 5 small meals a day thing but ... I'm busy ... and sometimes I need something fast. I found a good protein supplement that has zero sugars and carbs and it has something like 23g of protein a serving.

As for working out ... find something that you really enjoy doing, something that will help you detox from your day. I used to be in a crossfit group for ladies and while I saw results and it was challenging, it wasn't very fun. Sometimes I really hated going and not because it was "working out," but because I genuinely wasn't into what we were doing. So some of my friends and I sat down and came up with a numbered list of different activities we like to do. We use the 20 sided dice from dungeons and dragons to decide which activities/workouts we're going to do. Interestingly enough, I just read an article in the Wall Street Journal about a guy who utilizes the same idea. So just do stuff that will be both challenging and enjoyable. If it's neither of those things, you won't stick with it.
 
CF, some of my input. A few people will keep up their workouts like Jet all the way thru residency. All the credit to him. 98% won't. It's residency. Cuts have to be made in the private life across the board. Unlike the national debt, you can't just extend the limit of 168 hours in the week, have no cut in lifestyle, and live happy ever after.

So, when I went off to residency I knew I was going to take a hit. The key, and I mean huge Jet-like font KEY, is to not fall off the cliff and get helplessly out of shape. My goal was to stay in decent shape, gain no more than a few extra waste pounds, and always be in short reach of turning it back up to really good condition when I had the time again.

Set your goals modestly. Get in at least 2 cardios a week (20 minutes high intensity is better than 1 hour of Granny cardio in both results and valuable time saved), and at least 2 weight trainings a week, and resist the junk food (Bring a bag of nuts, fruit, protein, whatever to get you thru between meals without vending machine garbage). Residency is hard enough; you don't have to kill yourself unless working out truly is your religion.

Something modest and realistic can be kept up for all 4 years without burnout and will keep you from falling off the dreaded cliff of, "I'm so fat and out of shape it's totally pointless now."
 
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CF, some of my input. A few people will keep up their workouts like Jet all the way thru residency. All the credit to him. 98% won't. It's residency. Cuts have to be made in the private life across the board. Unlike the national debt, you can't just extend the limit of 168 hours in the week, have no cut in lifestyle, and live happy ever after.

So, when I went off to residency I knew I was going to take a hit. The key, and I mean huge Jet-like font KEY, is to not fall off the cliff and get helplessly out of shape. My goal was to stay in decent shape, gain no more than a few extra waste pounds, and always be in short reach of turning it back up to really good condition when I had the time again.

Set your goals modestly. Get in at least 2 cardios a week (20 minutes high intensity is better than 1 hour of Granny cardio in both results and valuable time saved), and at least 2 weight trainings a week, and resist the junk food (Bring a bag of nuts, fruit, protein, whatever to get you thru between meals without vending machine garbage). Residency is hard enough; you don't have to kill yourself unless working out is truly is your religion.

Something modest and realistic can be kept up for all 3 years without burnout and will keep you from falling off the dreaded cliff of, "I'm so fat and out of shape it's totally pointless now."

Nicely said man.

It's July.

I hope the new residents read this.

Not

GETTING FAT

Requires you to live a

CONSCIOUS LIFE


during residency.

If you use residency as

YOUR excuse to

OBESITY,


save it man.

What you really mean to say is

"I am not living a conscious life."
 
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What do you guys like to eat while at work?

We have a

Physician Concierge.😱

Yep.

True story.

Whatever we want

answers your question.

Lately I've been going

Greek yogurt and fruit for breakfast. Lunch,

Fresca Salad with grilled chicken, Parmesan Pepper dressing on the side,

and a cup of the Soup of the Day.

My job resembles

being a doctor in the 1950's.
 
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sounds like some fon (freak-of-nature) anesthesiologist/powerlifter/juggernauts on here. i would guess that most of us can't bench >300lbs, squat >400lbs, etc... (and have never juiced). more power to you behemoths/nfl prospects/etc.

i ran a little track in college (decathlon and pv), and continue to do the same workouts i did then - i weigh 5lbs more now, 15y later. 180, 6'1". my goal in training is to be fast, strong, lean, and versatile.

i lift 6d/week in 2 3d cycles. i hit the track 4-5d/week alternating sprint/plyo days with distance days. i can still run a mile in <5:20, 400m in 53s. bench 230, squat 285. workouts are supposed to be painful - this society is fat because they feel entitled to a pain free existence and watch too much tv/video games/net.

100% agree with your post. Congrats on the bolded stuff -- some impressive numbers, even more so since it sounds like you're 35-40yo. For my money it sounds like you're the healthiest dude who's posted on this thread so far.
 
Curious to hear what you guys/gals do to stay in shape.

Diet, excercise regimens etc. Please be specific and also let me know the mistakes you may have made in the past. Stuff that you did, but didn't work that great (according to whichever goals you were trying to accomplish) and then stuff that HAS worked for you.

I'm mostly interested in cutting up versus gaining mass per se, though I realize that strength training is for me, anyway, integral to trimming up.

Why does "staying in shape" necessarily mean "going to the gym" for the people on this board?

I do a little of everything -- run, bike, soccer, basketball, hike, lift, surf. No problem keeping an even, trim, healthy weight. I try to do something at least 5x/wk, call schedule permitting of course, but unusually when I do it's serious (>2 hr soccer sessions). I LIKE doing the things I do. Call me a skinny twerp but I call this way more "au naturel" than lifting big round pieces of metal at a place you have to pay to get into, and eating bizarre diets.
 
What do you guys like to eat while at work?

The only reason I became interested in intermittent fasting (a la leangains.com) was I was tired of all the constraints dealing with eating every few hours. I ate 5-6 meals / day for years, and frankly I abhorred having to prepare tons of food in advance or eating out all the time. When I learned the science of skipping meals was sound (None of this "metabolic slow-down" bull**** is actually scientifically demonstrable), I gave it a try and have had fantastic results. In a nutshell, you shoot for the same calories/day you would with any other diet, but you take all of them in during an ~6 hour window as opposed to spread across the day in 6 meals. The meals are MUCH more fulfilling this way, and surprisingly during the fasted portion you have Adderall-ish energy levels/focus.

Before I entered medical school I worked ~60 hrs a week and followed these meal schedules below to great success. I'm not a resident yet, but I still eat like this and enjoy the freedom of not having to cook or stress all the time. Generally I cook my dinner at night, and its amazing that I eat freshly prepared food every night as opposed to reheated tupperware BS or constant MRP shakes.

Example IF:
Wake ~6am: Coffee
First meal ~1pm: preworkout meal, about ~30% total calories
Workout 4-6pm: BCAA pre and intraworkout if I have the cash
Post workout I'd get the remaining 60-70% of calories in. Usually finishing off with eggs and/or cottage cheese or casein before bed.

A more "extreme" version of IF is the Warrior Diet (there's a book by Ori Hofmekeler by the same name). The only thing special about it is an even shorter eating window of 4 hours. I actually felt better doing this than any other diet, although I supplemented during the day heavily while fasting. This is the only diet I've ever done where I had to consciously eat more because I was losing fat too fast. The only thing that remotely compared in terms of rate of fat burning was a cyclic ketogenic diet, but those keto diets are pure psychologic deprivation dudes... only the most sadistic among us can stick to those long-term.

Example WD:
Wake ~6am: Coffee
~noon: 10g BCAA, about 20 min later 1 greek yogurt or 20g casein, handful mixed berries
~3pm: same as above
pre/intraworkout: 30g BCAA.
Postworkout/dinner: take in all remaining (95% daily intake) during dinner hours.

As above, there is something special about losing weight while still eating a meal akin to this for dinner:

a huge salad with 1-2 sliced tomatoes, avocado, 3-4oz delimeat, 2-3 hard boiled eggs, other random raw veggies. then the actual hot dinner portion: 3-4c of steamed veggies, 16 oz NY strip, 2 baked sweet potatoes...

you're probably thinking man thats a ****load of food, and indeed it is, but still <1/3 of what I need for maintenance (~3300 kcal). So an hour or two after that "dinner", I make an omelette with 5-6 eggs, 1c egg whites, whatever veggies/cheese are around + a few tbsp natty peanut butter. If I still haven't hit my calories I'll take down the remainder in protein shakes in whole milk.

It's counterintuitive to the conventional wisdom, but it flat out works, especially for endomorphs.
 
Thanks for the response. Do you not get a bit hypoglycemic with coffee and nothing else 'til noon/1pm. Or do you get used to it after a while? My metabolic rate has always been revved up and I get a bit hypogly if I don't eat anything in the am. I've been doing coffee and low fat yogurt with nuts and berries in the a.m. +/- cafeteria scrambled eggs. Then try and stick to tuna/salad/soup in the afternoon. But that gets boring after a while, and often I find myself cheating.

BCAA/protein shakes are good, but again I'm trying to find easy palatable foods to eat during the day. Yogurt, nuts, hummus, tuna, eggs, chicken, salmon, beans, fruits, salads, soups. I'll make big batches of turkey chili and gaspacho to mix it up. But after a while cranial nerve 12 starts wanting a bit more variety and I'm not really good at preparing meals the night before work.

I have no problem once I get home. Usually do my protein load after workouts.

Really though... it comes down to discipline. I'm just one of those guys who loves to eat.

Thanks again for your response dude.👍
 
We have a

Physician Concierge.😱

Yep.

True story.

Whatever we want

answers your question.

Lately I've been going

Greek yogurt and fruit for breakfast. Lunch,

Fresca Salad with grilled chicken, Parmesan Pepper dressing on the side,

and a cup of the Soup of the Day.

My job resembles

being a doctor in the 1950's.

Bastard..... 😉
 
Genetics has helped me the most.

Genetics has cursed or blessed me, depending on how you look at it, I guess.

I've had a BMI of 18-20 ever since I finished high school. I'm 6'6" and weigh 165 pounds. I eat whatever I want, whenever I want, as much as I want - I like healthy food, but I can't resist the taco truck for lunch and my usual order of 7 carnitas tacos keeps me full for a few hours. I'm a totally undisciplined eater now - yesterday I had about 12 peaches from my tree when i got home from work, then went to Panda Express and ate a plate of chow mein, mandarin chicken, and fried "shrimp" then ate some bowling alley food ... My LDL is 106 and HDL is 59. I'm almost 38 and I often get uneasy looks from patients who ask me if I'm old enough to be a doctor.

I run twice a year when the Navy makes me do the 1.5 mile fitness test, mainly because I dislike running. I'm not fast by any means but I don't have trouble with the test (the standards are pretty low in truth). When I deployed to Afghanistan a few years ago, out of boredom I decided to start running regularly. Nothing crazy, I did 2-3 miles 3x/week, ate four huge meals/day breakfast lunch dinner 'midrats', and had to quit running because I was losing weight and thought I started looking cadaverous at 155 pounds. When I was in college I spent a good year of obsessive nutrition, planned/monitored weight lifting, and martial arts ~8-10 hrs/wk and gained a whole 10 pounds of lean weight. Which disappeared instantaneously after some wanker stepped on my arm during a soccer game leading to an ORIF and a few months of doing nothing.

I'm more or less resigned to being perpetually skinny. There are worse problems to have I guess. Maybe I picked up a tapeworm or something from a taco truck in high school.

I'm jealous of you guys who can exercise and not waste away to nothing.
 
We have a

Physician Concierge.😱

Yep.

True story.

Whatever we want

answers your question.

Lately I've been going

Greek yogurt and fruit for breakfast. Lunch,

Fresca Salad with grilled chicken, Parmesan Pepper dressing on the side,

and a cup of the Soup of the Day.

My job resembles

being a doctor in the 1950's.

I'm jealous and angry at the same time.
 
Ha you begin to form mental pictures of people when u talk anonymously for some reason I pictured you as a 5'6" bulldog.
Us tall people stick together. We have formed an underground network and are planning to take over the world in 2012. Our first action will be to get rid of small cars and have all cars equipped to fit big people. Our president is going to be Ivan Lendl. We will be gentle giants and the world will live in harmony without war.

Genetics has cursed or blessed me, depending on how you look at it, I guess.

I've had a BMI of 18-20 ever since I finished high school. I'm 6'6" and weigh 165 pounds. I eat whatever I want, whenever I want, as much as I want - I like healthy food, but I can't resist the taco truck for lunch and my usual order of 7 carnitas tacos keeps me full for a few hours. I'm a totally undisciplined eater now - yesterday I had about 12 peaches from my tree when i got home from work, then went to Panda Express and ate a plate of chow mein, mandarin chicken, and fried "shrimp" then ate some bowling alley food ... My LDL is 106 and HDL is 59. I'm almost 38 and I often get uneasy looks from patients who ask me if I'm old enough to be a doctor.

I run twice a year when the Navy makes me do the 1.5 mile fitness test, mainly because I dislike running. I'm not fast by any means but I don't have trouble with the test (the standards are pretty low in truth). When I deployed to Afghanistan a few years ago, out of boredom I decided to start running regularly. Nothing crazy, I did 2-3 miles 3x/week, ate four huge meals/day breakfast lunch dinner 'midrats', and had to quit running because I was losing weight and thought I started looking cadaverous at 155 pounds. When I was in college I spent a good year of obsessive nutrition, planned/monitored weight lifting, and martial arts ~8-10 hrs/wk and gained a whole 10 pounds of lean weight. Which disappeared instantaneously after some wanker stepped on my arm during a soccer game leading to an ORIF and a few months of doing nothing.

I'm more or less resigned to being perpetually skinny. There are worse problems to have I guess. Maybe I picked up a tapeworm or something from a taco truck in high school.

I'm jealous of you guys who can exercise and not waste away to nothing.
 
Us tall people stick together. We have formed an underground network and are planning to take over the world in 2012. Our first action will be to get rid of small cars and have all cars equipped to fit big people.

For the moment, I'd settle for scrubs that keep my ankles warm.

Our president is going to be Ivan Lendl. We will be gentle giants and the world will live in harmony without war.

That's 'cause we're going to enslave the short people, right?
 
We have a

Physician Concierge.😱

Yep.

True story.

Whatever we want

answers your question.

Lately I've been going

Greek yogurt and fruit for breakfast. Lunch,

Fresca Salad with grilled chicken, Parmesan Pepper dressing on the side,

and a cup of the Soup of the Day.

My job resembles

being a doctor in the 1950's.

Where do you work and are you looking for employees?
 
For the moment, I'd settle for scrubs that keep my ankles warm.



That's 'cause we're going to enslave the short people, right?

I dont have any problems with pants, its usually the shirts that dont fit right. They are usually not long enough and I like to tuck nicely into my pants, I hate to have a draft up my back from my shirts coming untucked, and a lot of shirts are big enough in the chest area but not long enough.
Enslave? Nah come on dude, no slavery, just some down home, take charge and kick some azz chill axin' dude.
On a serious non delusional note, I appreciate the comments regarding reading suggestions and peoples meal plans, some fascinating stuff. I am inspired to eat more healthy snacks. Yogurt for breakfast, is not a bad idea, right now I just eat a granola bar, but yogurt with granola, now there is a slice of heaven.
Right now the only change that I have implemented in my diet is some pre and post workout supplementation. These are heavy in Creatine.
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Suma is suggested to:*

increase nitrogen retention and support protein synthesis*
improve cellular oxygenation and enhance energy pathways*
regulate hormone levels*
support immune function*
enhance recovery and improve energy*

This is my post workout supplement

Xtend is the ultimate, sugar-free, BCAA-containing drink mix to be consumed during exercise (intra-workout). Whether you're a physique athlete, strongman, powerlifter, traditional athlete (e.g., football, basketball, baseball, soccer, etc), endurance competitor, or just looking to significantly change your body composition through resistance training and nutrition, Xtend is ideally formulated to maximize training intensity and support your goals.* Xtend was the first and has become the most well-recognized and used intra-workout catalyst product because it not only works... but it tastes great too! Xtend contains an incredible:

7000 mg of BCAAs in an ideal 2:1:1 ratio of Leucine:Isoleucine:Valine
3500 mg of Leucine
2500 mg of Glutamine
1000 mg of Citrulline Malate
1171 mg of Electrolytes
640 mcg of Vitamin B6
And, ZERO Carbohydrates or Sugar
 
Back in the day, high school and college I wanted to gain nothing but bulk because I wanted to be huge. I used to do whatever it took, similar to other posters on here.
Now I want to have explosiveness. I feel, even though I worked out during med school and residency, but not like I used to, I feel like I have lost that extra level of energy, that other reserve in the tank. Thats what I want back and to go beyond what I had, to be like a NFL wide receiver to be explosive. I no longer want to be the hugest dude in the gym, not that I ever was, but that isnt my goal any longer.
I like to run, but I also dont want to be a waif, I just want to be strong yet explosive. Ah wtf am I talking, I am just talking to myself out loud..thanks to the people who posted their different meal plans, I think that may be useful, thx.
 
• Suma Root—Russian Anabolic Secret: ASSAULT™'s secret weapon!

Suma is a natural performance-boosting, strength-and muscle-building herbal derivative that has been used for years by top Russian Athletes.* Suma is a South American herbal derivative with several adaptogenic properties. Suma gets its muscle-building properties from its high levels of phyto-chemicals including beta ecdysterone and other ecdysteroid glycosides.*
Suma is suggested to:*

increase nitrogen retention and support protein synthesis*
improve cellular oxygenation and enhance energy pathways*
regulate hormone levels*
support immune function*
enhance recovery and improve energy*

This is my post workout supplement

Xtend is the ultimate, sugar-free, BCAA-containing drink mix to be consumed during exercise (intra-workout). Whether you're a physique athlete, strongman, powerlifter, traditional athlete (e.g., football, basketball, baseball, soccer, etc), endurance competitor, or just looking to significantly change your body composition through resistance training and nutrition, Xtend is ideally formulated to maximize training intensity and support your goals.* Xtend was the first and has become the most well-recognized and used intra-workout catalyst product because it not only works... but it tastes great too! Xtend contains an incredible:

7000 mg of BCAAs in an ideal 2:1:1 ratio of Leucine:Isoleucine:Valine
3500 mg of Leucine
2500 mg of Glutamine
1000 mg of Citrulline Malate
1171 mg of Electrolytes
640 mcg of Vitamin B6
And, ZERO Carbohydrates or Sugar

i thought xtend was to make yore wanka longa?

seriously?

http://wrestlingclique.com/imagehosting/1040492d38e6e045f.jpg
 
Genetics has cursed or blessed me, depending on how you look at it, I guess.

I've had a BMI of 18-20 ever since I finished high school. I'm 6'6" and weigh 165 pounds. I eat whatever I want, whenever I want, as much as I want - I like healthy food, but I can't resist the taco truck for lunch and my usual order of 7 carnitas tacos keeps me full for a few hours. I'm a totally undisciplined eater now - yesterday I had about 12 peaches from my tree when i got home from work, then went to Panda Express and ate a plate of chow mein, mandarin chicken, and fried "shrimp" then ate some bowling alley food ... My LDL is 106 and HDL is 59. I'm almost 38 and I often get uneasy looks from patients who ask me if I'm old enough to be a doctor.

I run twice a year when the Navy makes me do the 1.5 mile fitness test, mainly because I dislike running. I'm not fast by any means but I don't have trouble with the test (the standards are pretty low in truth). When I deployed to Afghanistan a few years ago, out of boredom I decided to start running regularly. Nothing crazy, I did 2-3 miles 3x/week, ate four huge meals/day breakfast lunch dinner 'midrats', and had to quit running because I was losing weight and thought I started looking cadaverous at 155 pounds. When I was in college I spent a good year of obsessive nutrition, planned/monitored weight lifting, and martial arts ~8-10 hrs/wk and gained a whole 10 pounds of lean weight. Which disappeared instantaneously after some wanker stepped on my arm during a soccer game leading to an ORIF and a few months of doing nothing.

I'm more or less resigned to being perpetually skinny. There are worse problems to have I guess. Maybe I picked up a tapeworm or something from a taco truck in high school.

I'm jealous of you guys who can exercise and not waste away to nothing.

:wow: I weigh about that but I'm 6" shorter. Good for you, at least you're not a "skinny fat" person. One of my friends is 6'4" and super skinny but has horrible health and is really out of shape.
 
Question about creatine for any, but JPP in particular

JPP - you said in the thread 10g/day, but I have a hard time believing a 250 lb bodybuilder and 160 lb couch potato are going to metabolize creatine at the same or even comparable rates. Unfortunately, since this isn't a "drug," I don't believe any great dosing studies have been done (although I could be wrong). You wouldn't recommend dosing up/down based upon size difference from the "average male?"
 
Thought it was a little medical advicey? At any rate, previously read, just now responding - still looking around at dosing info online, but will prob be settling somewhere under 10g/day (even though your "scrawny" 🙂laugh🙂 180 lb son takes the same) - I'm almost all LMM, but I'm well under 180.

Thanks for the info
 
The only reason I became interested in intermittent fasting (a la leangains.com) was I was tired of all the constraints dealing with eating every few hours. I ate 5-6 meals / day for years, and frankly I abhorred having to prepare tons of food in advance or eating out all the time. When I learned the science of skipping meals was sound (None of this "metabolic slow-down" bull**** is actually scientifically demonstrable), I gave it a try and have had fantastic results. In a nutshell, you shoot for the same calories/day you would with any other diet, but you take all of them in during an ~6 hour window as opposed to spread across the day in 6 meals. The meals are MUCH more fulfilling this way, and surprisingly during the fasted portion you have Adderall-ish energy levels/focus.

Before I entered medical school I worked ~60 hrs a week and followed these meal schedules below to great success. I'm not a resident yet, but I still eat like this and enjoy the freedom of not having to cook or stress all the time. Generally I cook my dinner at night, and its amazing that I eat freshly prepared food every night as opposed to reheated tupperware BS or constant MRP shakes.

Example IF:
Wake ~6am: Coffee
First meal ~1pm: preworkout meal, about ~30% total calories
Workout 4-6pm: BCAA pre and intraworkout if I have the cash
Post workout I'd get the remaining 60-70% of calories in. Usually finishing off with eggs and/or cottage cheese or casein before bed.

A more "extreme" version of IF is the Warrior Diet (there's a book by Ori Hofmekeler by the same name). The only thing special about it is an even shorter eating window of 4 hours. I actually felt better doing this than any other diet, although I supplemented during the day heavily while fasting. This is the only diet I've ever done where I had to consciously eat more because I was losing fat too fast. The only thing that remotely compared in terms of rate of fat burning was a cyclic ketogenic diet, but those keto diets are pure psychologic deprivation dudes... only the most sadistic among us can stick to those long-term.

Example WD:
Wake ~6am: Coffee
~noon: 10g BCAA, about 20 min later 1 greek yogurt or 20g casein, handful mixed berries
~3pm: same as above
pre/intraworkout: 30g BCAA.
Postworkout/dinner: take in all remaining (95% daily intake) during dinner hours.

As above, there is something special about losing weight while still eating a meal akin to this for dinner:

a huge salad with 1-2 sliced tomatoes, avocado, 3-4oz delimeat, 2-3 hard boiled eggs, other random raw veggies. then the actual hot dinner portion: 3-4c of steamed veggies, 16 oz NY strip, 2 baked sweet potatoes...

you're probably thinking man thats a ****load of food, and indeed it is, but still <1/3 of what I need for maintenance (~3300 kcal). So an hour or two after that "dinner", I make an omelette with 5-6 eggs, 1c egg whites, whatever veggies/cheese are around + a few tbsp natty peanut butter. If I still haven't hit my calories I'll take down the remainder in protein shakes in whole milk.

It's counterintuitive to the conventional wisdom, but it flat out works, especially for endomorphs.

does coffee on an empty stomach give you stomach ache?
 
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That's 'cause we're going to enslave the short people, right?

Don't go there man.

My gf is 4'10".😱 🙂laugh🙂

Intelligent, smokin' hot, albeit somewhat Napoleonic.

Guess the latter comes with not being able to reach the cereal bowls at 41 years old.😀
 
Don't go there man.

My gf is 4'10".😱 🙂laugh🙂

Intelligent, smokin' hot, albeit somewhat Napoleonic.

Guess the latter comes with not being able to reach the cereal bowls at 41 years old.😀

Ha, my wife is 5'0" ... we make a goofy looking couple. She just climbs on the counters to get the cereal bowls.
 
I'm 6'4''. And yes, I would like scrubs that don't make me look like Jerry Lewis from the Nutty Professor. Despite the fact that I'm a huge fan of his. I've often wondered WHY they don't make scrubs (or do they?) in XL-TALL??? I need XXL for the length, but then I walk around with that POOFY SCRUB bulge around my WANKA that makes it look like I have a rare form of HYDROCOEL that involves the entire WANKA. XL too short. XXL too wide. 2/3X x X(L). There. That's the formula. An Intvl Cards friend of mine gets his scrubs custom made, in black. I'm not sure I wanna go there. Nor could I, while in med school do I think.

I also would like emergency exit rows reserved for all us 6''+ peeps out here (HOLLA) and not the 3'2'' guy/girl who wants it because he needs to "kick back a little." If you can feel my knees pressing into the back of your spine through your chair in seat 11B, I'm sorry. I just have nowhere else to put them as 12A and 12C are taken. There is, however, a dwarf in 7B with fourteen feet of legroom. You can thank him.

Jeans, and not like Gap jeans, but nice ones are always hard to find and a problem for me since 11th grade. Lucky Brand has a decent selection. But when you wanna go and get REALLY nice jeans, something to wear to a concert or something...impossible.

I've solved the sneaker/shoe problem. Only took me 38 years. Not a lot of 14s or 15s out there, but places like Dicks, and Runners World type stores are starting to realize they need to stock em. Still, it sucks to look through 500 shoe boxes to realize the only color they have in my size went out of fashion with the Cosby Show. There was one place, ONE, on Long Island, where I grew up, Goldman Bros, in the town over from me, it is still in Hicksville, and I had to shop there for sneakers and shoes. I still go when I'm back home...

Strangely, I only date women from about 5'4'' to 5'5''. Not that I bring a tape ruler, but that's always the number, and I don't even know if it's been tested to 5'6''...maybe. This might have to do with the fact that my mother is tall. Just guessing.

Ick.

On a bright note, I get a couple extra inches on my tennis serve, and I'm quite respectable on the bball court.

Now the goal is to lean out to my goal weight (not far off) and add some muscle/definition toot sweet.

D712
 
Ha ha ha.... Seriously wtf is up with putting little people on the door seats? Anytime I am on a flight I always get the same response. Once we r up in the air the dude tries a couple times to drop his seat back and when he can't he shoots a look back and then sees me glaring at him and quickly turns around like he lost something under his seat. Why do they even have a recline function I mean how rude can u get? If u have a tray down and the person reclines the tray goes into your belly and you go from having 12" of personal space to like 6".
That's why tall people need to take over and reverse engineer everything so that everything is fit to tall people. Imagine a plane where u have leg room. Kitchen tables where your knees fit under them. Drinking cups that aren't finished in one swig. Cars where your knees aren't in the windshield. Pants and shirts that fit. And shoes. Bigger is better!!! Maybe I need to move to Texas.

I'm 6'4''. And yes, I would like scrubs that don't make me look like Jerry Lewis from the Nutty Professor. Despite the fact that I'm a huge fan of his. I've often wondered WHY they don't make scrubs (or do they?) in XL-TALL??? I need XXL for the length, but then I walk around with that POOFY SCRUB bulge around my WANKA that makes it look like I have a rare form of HYDROCOEL that involves the entire WANKA. XL too short. XXL too wide. 2/3X x X(L). There. That's the formula. An Intvl Cards friend of mine gets his scrubs custom made, in black. I'm not sure I wanna go there. Nor could I, while in med school do I think.

I also would like emergency exit rows reserved for all us 6''+ peeps out here (HOLLA) and not the 3'2'' guy/girl who wants it because he needs to "kick back a little." If you can feel my knees pressing into the back of your spine through your chair in seat 11B, I'm sorry. I just have nowhere else to put them as 12A and 12C are taken. There is, however, a dwarf in 7B with fourteen feet of legroom. You can thank him.

Jeans, and not like Gap jeans, but nice ones are always hard to find and a problem for me since 11th grade. Lucky Brand has a decent selection. But when you wanna go and get REALLY nice jeans, something to wear to a concert or something...impossible.

I've solved the sneaker/shoe problem. Only took me 38 years. Not a lot of 14s or 15s out there, but places like Dicks, and Runners World type stores are starting to realize they need to stock em. Still, it sucks to look through 500 shoe boxes to realize the only color they have in my size went out of fashion with the Cosby Show. There was one place, ONE, on Long Island, where I grew up, Goldman Bros, in the town over from me, it is still in Hicksville, and I had to shop there for sneakers and shoes. I still go when I'm back home...

Strangely, I only date women from about 5'4'' to 5'5''. Not that I bring a tape ruler, but that's always the number, and I don't even know if it's been tested to 5'6''...maybe. This might have to do with the fact that my mother is tall. Just guessing.

Ick.

On a bright note, I get a couple extra inches on my tennis serve, and I'm quite respectable on the bball court.

Now the goal is to lean out to my goal weight (not far off) and add some muscle/definition toot sweet.

D712
 
Ha ha ha.... Seriously wtf is up with putting little people on the door seats? Anytime I am on a flight I always get the same response. Once we r up in the air the dude tries a couple times to drop his seat back and when he can't he shoots a look back and then sees me glaring at him and quickly turns around like he lost something under his seat. Why do they even have a recline function I mean how rude can u get? If u have a tray down and the person reclines the tray goes into your belly and you go from having 12" of personal space to like 6".
That's why tall people need to take over and reverse engineer everything so that everything is fit to tall people. Imagine a plane where u have leg room. Kitchen tables where your knees fit under them. Drinking cups that aren't finished in one swig. Cars where your knees aren't in the windshield. Pants and shirts that fit. And shoes. Bigger is better!!! Maybe I need to move to Texas.

So, last year I was traveling a lot between Florida and Boston because of work and the best airline for my schedule was Spirit Air. Lord. But anyway, I always hated their seats because the GRAY leather got so dirty you could see the years of C RAP on them. Lo and behold, I get on a plane and see that they CHANGED them to dark blue seats. New plane! I'm thinking this is good. And the seats haven't been smushed to heck as well. New is good.

Until I find out that (I guess the same genius who thought of the grey seats in the first place were in charge of new purchases...because) THESE NEW SEATS DO NOT RECLINE!!!!! They installed NEW airplane seats, with NO RECLINE FUNCTION. The plane was empty and nobody was in front of me, but now I had to be vertical with NO OPTION of reclining. And no, I wasn't in a restricted row, seat, spot. I asked. The whole plane - NO RECLINE.

Welcome to Spirit Air. You've been warned.

I forgot to touch on cars, and leg room. Another pet peeve. I'm in a new Volvo XC90 now (an upgrade from the Jetta I got reamed on in the forum 3 years ago, ha) and I'd say it has fair leg room. Kids in the back make out, 3rd row pushes everything forward, but what can you do. I'm convinced the ONLY place I can find true nice legroom is a) sports car with no rear seats (did that as a teen, I have kids now) or b) a BEHEMOTH of a large SUV, like an Escalade or Armada or similar. A tank essentially. Actually some larger american cars are ok, my father's 300C Hemi is comfy. so c) huge caddy or lincoln or american car. and I don't go for those.

D712

D712
 
There is a great website, SEATGURU.com that lists all models and seat arrangements for all airlines. It's priceless for us tall peeps. So, if you are flying lufthansa, and wanna get a good seat, goto the site, note that you are on the 747-300, or 767-200, and look up the seats. Either try and book that seat yourself OR, when you get to the airport, do what I did.

"Is this the 747-300 Trans Atl config?" Yes. "Can I sit in 14J, 32B or 12D please. For best legroom." Got a weird look but SCREW EM.

Seat Guru lets you know of certain seats that are bad, like the exit seat with the AIRSLIDE that JUTS out into your space, some exit row, or the near bathroom seats where people line up on overseas flights, or reduced recline, no recline, etc etc. Extra legroom, no seats in front of you.

It's really helped me a lot. Plus I like flying and it's a flying website.

Check it out.

Tall people. : )

D712
 
I'm 6'4''. And yes, I would like scrubs that don't make me look like Jerry Lewis from the Nutty Professor. Despite the fact that I'm a huge fan of his. I've often wondered WHY they don't make scrubs (or do they?) in XL-TALL??? I need XXL for the length, but then I walk around with that POOFY SCRUB bulge around my WANKA that makes it look like I have a rare form of HYDROCOEL that involves the entire WANKA. XL too short. XXL too wide. 2/3X x X(L). There. That's the formula. An Intvl Cards friend of mine gets his scrubs custom made, in black. I'm not sure I wanna go there. Nor could I, while in med school do I think.

I also would like emergency exit rows reserved for all us 6''+ peeps out here (HOLLA) and not the 3'2'' guy/girl who wants it because he needs to "kick back a little." If you can feel my knees pressing into the back of your spine through your chair in seat 11B, I'm sorry. I just have nowhere else to put them as 12A and 12C are taken. There is, however, a dwarf in 7B with fourteen feet of legroom. You can thank him.

Jeans, and not like Gap jeans, but nice ones are always hard to find and a problem for me since 11th grade. Lucky Brand has a decent selection. But when you wanna go and get REALLY nice jeans, something to wear to a concert or something...impossible.

I've solved the sneaker/shoe problem. Only took me 38 years. Not a lot of 14s or 15s out there, but places like Dicks, and Runners World type stores are starting to realize they need to stock em. Still, it sucks to look through 500 shoe boxes to realize the only color they have in my size went out of fashion with the Cosby Show. There was one place, ONE, on Long Island, where I grew up, Goldman Bros, in the town over from me, it is still in Hicksville, and I had to shop there for sneakers and shoes. I still go when I'm back home...

Strangely, I only date women from about 5'4'' to 5'5''. Not that I bring a tape ruler, but that's always the number, and I don't even know if it's been tested to 5'6''...maybe. This might have to do with the fact that my mother is tall. Just guessing.

Ick.

On a bright note, I get a couple extra inches on my tennis serve, and I'm quite respectable on the bball court.

Now the goal is to lean out to my goal weight (not far off) and add some muscle/definition toot sweet.

D712

HAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahaha!

Dude.

Soooooo much epic s hit here

most comedic, some deep (which I get)

Talent, man.

And I'm guessing this post took you....Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

Seven minutes.
 
Jet,

Lol. It still takes me longer to write that post than for u to drop a Swan Ganz in. So, you STILL win!!! 😡 Ill get there tho. 😉

D712
 
Try:

Paleo Diet / Primal Diet

  • Meat, eggs, fruit, vegetable, nuts
  • Not sugar, bread, pasta, chips, soda, juice

Body Weight Exercises (try Navy Seal type workouts)

Cardio

  • Run, Bike, Swim, Jump, etc.
Better than vibrams?

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I'm 6'4''. And yes, I would like scrubs that don't make me look like Jerry Lewis from the Nutty Professor. Despite the fact that I'm a huge fan of his. I've often wondered WHY they don't make scrubs (or do they?) in XL-TALL??? I need XXL for the length, but then I walk around with that POOFY SCRUB bulge around my WANKA that makes it look like I have a rare form of HYDROCOEL that involves the entire WANKA. XL too short. XXL too wide. 2/3X x X(L). There. That's the formula. An Intvl Cards friend of mine gets his scrubs custom made, in black. I'm not sure I wanna go there. Nor could I, while in med school do I think.

I also would like emergency exit rows reserved for all us 6''+ peeps out here (HOLLA) and not the 3'2'' guy/girl who wants it because he needs to "kick back a little." If you can feel my knees pressing into the back of your spine through your chair in seat 11B, I'm sorry. I just have nowhere else to put them as 12A and 12C are taken. There is, however, a dwarf in 7B with fourteen feet of legroom. You can thank him.

Jeans, and not like Gap jeans, but nice ones are always hard to find and a problem for me since 11th grade. Lucky Brand has a decent selection. But when you wanna go and get REALLY nice jeans, something to wear to a concert or something...impossible.

I've solved the sneaker/shoe problem. Only took me 38 years. Not a lot of 14s or 15s out there, but places like Dicks, and Runners World type stores are starting to realize they need to stock em. Still, it sucks to look through 500 shoe boxes to realize the only color they have in my size went out of fashion with the Cosby Show. There was one place, ONE, on Long Island, where I grew up, Goldman Bros, in the town over from me, it is still in Hicksville, and I had to shop there for sneakers and shoes. I still go when I'm back home...

Strangely, I only date women from about 5'4'' to 5'5''. Not that I bring a tape ruler, but that's always the number, and I don't even know if it's been tested to 5'6''...maybe. This might have to do with the fact that my mother is tall. Just guessing.

Ick.


On a bright note, I get a couple extra inches on my tennis serve, and I'm quite respectable on the bball court.

Now the goal is to lean out to my goal weight (not far off) and add some muscle/definition toot sweet.

D712

:laugh: Good to know you don't suffer from Oedipus Complex.....
 
Bumping this thread. I just completed my first half marathon, and this thread served as an inspiration of sorts as I committed to doing the race over the summer. Was wondering if anyone had any good resources or recommendations for interval training. While happy to have completed that first race, I've got my eyes set on becoming faster in future events. Thanks.
 
Bumping this thread. I just completed my first half marathon, and this thread served as an inspiration of sorts as I committed to doing the race over the summer. Was wondering if anyone had any good resources or recommendations for interval training. While happy to have completed that first race, I've got my eyes set on becoming faster in future events. Thanks.

Congrats on HM! Look up Tabata intervals. I don't know if they're any good for long distance events, but it's a great workout.
 
Bumping this thread. I just completed my first half marathon, and this thread served as an inspiration of sorts as I committed to doing the race over the summer. Was wondering if anyone had any good resources or recommendations for interval training. While happy to have completed that first race, I've got my eyes set on becoming faster in future events. Thanks.

Congrats! Just finished my 2nd half-marathon, my first was last month. Is that like running a full?

Also, the Merrell TrailGloves are amazing. Been using them a few months, like them 100X better than the FiveFingers.
 
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