Would being a stripper prevent me from getting into med school?

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WedgeDawg said:
Sometimes, late at night when I can't fall asleep, I read about weird sh** on wikipedia and see what happens. One of the things I stumbled upon was ultra long distance ocean swimming. Like people who swim miles and miles and miles in cold, open water for hours at a time (things like crossing the english channel.. by swimming). Apparently, if you swim the english channel, it takes like 7-12 hours and you lose 10 lbs due to energy consumption, which is exacerbated by cold. I don't understand how people do stuff like that. It completely amazes me.
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You should enjoy this (if you haven't watched it yet)!



(Lady was the first to swim unassisted from Cuba to Florida - 110 miles and 53 hours... at 64! 😱)
 
Doudline said:
You should enjoy this (if you haven't watched it yet)!



(Lady was the first to swim unassisted from Cuba to Florida - 110 miles and 53 hours... at 64! 😱)
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Yeah, I've read a lot about her. I think it took her 4 (maybe 5?) times to do it. Many of the failed attempts were due to an overwhelming number of jellyfish stings... ouch
 
Will he evolve into Golduck when you graduate med school? 😀

I usually have a Cyndaquil, but there was a penguin craze a while ago so I changed it to Piplup. Will probably change it back.
 
WedgeDawg said:
Sometimes, late at night when I can't fall asleep, I read about weird sh** on wikipedia and see what happens. One of the things I stumbled upon was ultra long distance ocean swimming. Like people who swim miles and miles and miles in cold, open water for hours at a time (things like crossing the english channel.. by swimming). Apparently, if you swim the english channel, it takes like 7-12 hours and you lose 10 lbs due to energy consumption, which is exacerbated by cold. I don't understand how people do stuff like that. It completely amazes me.
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Well, you only have to have mental game for the first half...the second half is probably fueled by "oh **** oh **** oh **** I am hours away from shore and if I stop swimming I will die."
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medic86 said:
... if only I could do a single muscle-up...

*stares off into the distance*
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I read some stupid article that somehow made it into the NYTimes or something years ago about how some girls just *can't* learn to do a pull up, and I took it to heart. I'd never really tried, but I just didn't even consider it after that.
Got into rock climbing and finally got sick of telling myself that my arms were little useless sticks hanging from my shoulders, looked up some exercises to strengthen the appropriate muscles, and maybe 2wks later I was doing the first pullups of my life!

Next step: muscle ups. Its a lonnnnnnng stride between those two, though...gotta find the next set of exercises!
 
jl lin said:
We will have to disagree, at least re: the part that one becomes part of an actual degrading, dehumanizing objectification of people--and really, it hurts men also, and their families IMO. It's nasty, disrespectful business, period. You want to disagree, fine. But once again, I am not seeing people clamoring over feel great if their daughter was doing it.

You know how a cigar is just a cigar? Degradation and objection are simply like that--rationalizations notwithstanding. But rationalization attempts to serve its purpose in order keep to justifying something very wrong, seem A OK. People aren't objects--for sexualization or anything else. And that is really what matters most here--regardless of whether the person gets into MS or finds residencies and jobs w/o this coming up or being an issue.

People aren't play things, and those that think they are, for themselves or anyone else, I believe, need to re-think what is the value of a person and people is/are, and how this kind of thing sells them and others short.
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All depends on how you view sex and sexuality. If you think it's some sacred thing, that's going to mess you up. For me, sex is like anything else, and sexuality isn't that big of a deal. A girl that's dancing on stage is no different than a singer, ballet dancer, or comedian, they're just providing a different sort of entertainment and displaying different talents. As to objectification, they aren't being objectified much more than any other attractive female entertainer in a live setting- and you'll find many of the girls that do this are objectified less than you'd think. Many of the guys will hire them for a dance just to talk, or really get to know some of the patrons.

I mean, there's going to be ***holes in any establishment, but they can refuse private dances to them or ignore them. But people tend to imagine strip clubs filled with nothing but awful people, when they're really just like anywhere else, a microcosm of society. I'm not a fan of them myself- if I wanted drinks and naked company, I can get those without a cover charge at home- but after knowing girls that worked in the business and moved on and talking to them about it, I really can't say it's all that bad. Hell, I knew an advertising executive that said it was the most fun she'd ever had and the only reason she stopped was that her husband made her. She had tons of great stories, and really just viewed herself as an entertainer.
 
Conflagration said:
Will he evolve into Golduck when you graduate med school? 😀

I usually have a Cyndaquil, but there was a penguin craze a while ago so I changed it to Piplup. Will probably change it back.
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A bunch of us who are applying this cycle are playing a game with the Pokemon avatars. As we reach certain milestones, we evolve. E.g. when you attend your first interview, when you get accepted, when you matriculate. But I picked Psyduck who only has one evolution. So I'm trying to decide when to evolve into Golduck. I'm thinking I'll do it if/when I get accepted to a school. (I like Psyduck way better than Golduck anyway.)
 
Conflagration said:
Will he evolve into Golduck when you graduate med school? 😀

I usually have a Cyndaquil, but there was a penguin craze a while ago so I changed it to Piplup. Will probably change it back.
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That would be better since Piplup being a water pokemon contradicts your fiery username. Should've stuck with Torchic.
 
Mad Jack said:
All depends on how you view sex and sexuality. If you think it's some sacred thing, that's going to mess you up. For me, sex is like anything else, and sexuality isn't that big of a deal. A girl that's dancing on stage is no different than a singer, ballet dancer, or comedian, they're just providing a different sort of entertainment and displaying different talents. As to objectification, they aren't being objectified much more than any other attractive female entertainer in a live setting- and you'll find many of the girls that do this are objectified less than you'd think. Many of the guys will hire them for a dance just to talk, or really get to know some of the patrons.

I mean, there's going to be ***holes in any establishment, but they can refuse private dances to them or ignore them. But people tend to imagine strip clubs filled with nothing but awful people, when they're really just like anywhere else, a microcosm of society. I'm not a fan of them myself- if I wanted drinks and naked company, I can get those without a cover charge at home- but after knowing girls that worked in the business and moved on and talking to them about it, I really can't say it's all that bad. Hell, I knew an advertising executive that said it was the most fun she'd ever had and the only reason she stopped was that her husband made her. She had tons of great stories, and really just viewed herself as an entertainer.
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I hold you in high regard here MJ, but come on. Even you know that's a stretch. Whether they get someone to talk with them or not, the whole scene is entirely drenched in objectification. While this kind of thing is as old as dirt, as long as there are insecure females willing to play this game, sure it will continue, and that isn't good for women as individuals or the society as a whole.
 
jl lin said:
I hold you in high regard here MJ, but come on. Even you know that's a stretch. Whether they get someone to talk with them or not, the whole scene is entirely drenched in objectification. While this kind of thing is as old as dirt, as long as there are insecure females willing to play this game, sure it will continue, and that isn't good for women as individuals or the society as a whole.
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That's your problem though- you're assuming only insecure women do it. Those are the ones that have issues. It's the ones that are secure with their sexuality and know what they are doing that are fine. Not every girl on stage is being hopelessly exploited. A lot of them view it as what it is- easy money for doing practically nothing.
 
jl lin said:
I hold you in high regard here MJ, but come on. Even you know that's a stretch. Whether they get someone to talk with them or not, the whole scene is entirely drenched in objectification. While this kind of thing is as old as dirt, as long as there are insecure females willing to play this game, sure it will continue, and that isn't good for women as individuals or the society as a whole.
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I think you're seriously underestimating the role objectification plays in the world outside of stripping...a bit less blatant? Sure. But eternally present, nonetheless, only you don't normally get that hazard pay for putting up with it.
 
DokterMom said:
Is $300 a night not enough? I wouldn't risk your future career for the extra bucks now. If med school doesn't happen, strip then.
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This is a really good point. Stripping might provide great $$$ now, but in the grand scheme of things, it's pocket change compared to future earnings as a physician. I have a friend that escorts. It's $350 an hour but she has to pay out a good amount of that to an agency. As a physician, you can be making that much or more per hour, while not having to hide your work or fear for your life because you never know who that John behind the door is.

Also, I have known strippers in the past. I don't think it's fair to say that they will end up doing drugs or becoming prostitutes. A lot of the girls that you hear about posting on BackPage or other online classifieds often come from broken homes and haven't had good lives. A lot of girls that become strippers, like the OP, likely have fine upbringings and are doing it for the money. Given the stigma and risks, it might not be the best choice, however. But it's definitely not fair to label all strippers as emotionally broken ******. Though I'm not implying that anyone on here said that.

Also, to the OP, how much of a commitment is this going to take? It might be better to spend the time volunteering and just focusing on getting into medical school. I knock a lot on entry-level clinical jobs for being bad, and this might be bad too if it takes away from much-needed study time. And what sucks more is that you can't put it on your application, and will still need to do ECs on top of it. Lots of people take out loans and come out okay.

And OP, if you need to post this question in a forum, it means your sixth sense is telling you it's a bad idea. Listen to it!
 
Your are still reaching here. Being "OK" w/ your sexuality is a misnomer in this sense--in fact, it's a lie of utter rationalization. The need to seek affirmation from crowds of others by primarily using your body and sexuality is it's own problem, and the poor motivation for doing such exists regardless of what a person says about being OK with their own sexuality. You are completely selling YOURSELF as a sexual object for the lust/consumption of others. It's hard to get around this psycho-spiritual reality--focus on whichever aspect of that compound term that you wish. And there absolutely no getting around the reality that is negative exploitation.

And if sex is just sex w/o anything of higher value, then people are just receptacles in which others relieve themselves. That is, on it's face, dehumanizing in the greater sense of what humanity is and the value of what individuals are--that is to say, it's more than being about mere animalistic behavior.

I am not who I am b/c I garner attention and lust from other males, female, etc. That cheapens me as a whole person--and it cheapens those who subscribe to such a mentality. And it cheapens all women and men, and children for that matter.

Finally, it's not merely my problem. It is a problem for the individuals involved and the whole of society. It's a problems that extends across all stages of human development and interaction. And, although you do not have children, ask yourself, in utter and complete honesty, if this is an activity you would find healthy and acceptable for your own child.

Mad Jack said:
That's your problem though- you're assuming only insecure women do it. Those are the ones that have issues. It's the ones that are secure with their sexuality and know what they are doing that are fine. Not every girl on stage is being hopelessly exploited. A lot of them view it as what it is- easy money for doing practically nothing.
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Lawper said:
That would be better since Piplup being a water pokemon contradicts your fiery username. Should've stuck with Torchic.
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I do love Torchic, too. Cyndaquil is my home skillet though.

@Mad Jack's got a point, the money is hard to beat- but not a lot of people are cut out for it. I can only imagine how off-putting it is to know that the only reason you're making the money is because you're attractive- and how "keeping your looks" or "maybe if I lost weight/X, I could get more money" could have some seriously unhealthy ramifications (eating disorders come to mind, potentially self-esteem issues and depression also).

Although, I do agree with @ji lin about in general not feeling comfortable with the exchange. I wouldn't feel alright doing that, and I do feel like when either sex plays up aspects of their sexuality for money, it gets really wonky.

At the end of the day, though, it's OP's call. I can disagree and say that I wouldn't do it for all the tea in China, but if she needs to pay her bills or even just because she wants to, who am I to judge?
 
jl lin said:
Your still reaching here. Being "OK" w/ your sexuality is a misnomer in this sense. The need to seek affirmation outside of yourself from many others is it's own problem, and it exists regardless of what a person says about being OK with their own sexuality. You are completely selling YOURSELF as sexual object for the lust of others--it's hard to get around this psycho-spiritual reality--focus on whichever aspect of that compound term that you wish. If sex is just sex w/o anything of higher value, then people are just receptacles in which others relieve themselves. That is, on it's face, dehumanizing in the greater sense of what humanity is--more than being about mere animalistic behavior--which without question, we are. I am not who I am b/c I garner attention and lust from other males, female, etc. That cheapens me as a whole person--and it cheapens those who subscribe to such a mentality.

Finally, it's not merely my problem. It is a problem for the individuals involved and the whole of society. It's a problems that extends across all stages of human development and interaction. And, although you do not have children, ask yourself, in utter and complete honesty, if this is an activity you would find healthy and acceptable for your own child.
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If I ever had children, I would support them in whatever endeavors they chose to pursue, so long as they were honestly and truly happy. If I found out my sister, for instance, were a stripper tomorrow, my first question would be, "are you honestly happy with the job and does the work bother you?" And if she said she was happy and it wasn't something that had a negative impact on her, then I'd be all for it.

I think people tend to oversell the importance of sex and sexuality. You seem to feel that these girls are on stage for validation- they're not. They're up there because it's a paycheck, and, if anything, many of the guys are the ones being exploited, because they can't help but hand over a few dollars just to see some bare breasts and dancing. In the same way a salesman uses sleight of word and presentation to part people from their hard-earned money, so does a stripper do the same, but with glances, a few moves, and the right body language.

Personally, I feel society has an unhealthy relationship with sexuality not because we think too little of it, but because we think too much of it. You view sexuality as some sacred thing to be carefully controlled and used only in the "correct" context, whereas I view the expression of sexuality without repression as the ability to freely explore an inherent part of what makes us human. That repression of sexuality is exactly why we see so many problems in our society- where people find female nipples offensive and label a woman who dares freely express her sexuality any number of demeaning things. By making sex such a big deal and ignoring the reality of how people feel about it and how they prefer to express themselves sexually, you create more problems than you fix more often than not, from gay men that end up married to women to appear socially acceptable only to break up with them years down the line to ineffective abstinence-only sex education that has been proven to do nothing but increase the teen pregnancy rate.

At the end of the day, sex is special to you in a particular way, but you don't get to decide what it means to me or to anyone else for that matter. What you find degrading, others might find liberating, what you find offensive, others might find enjoyable. It's not for you to say how being a stripper will weigh on a girl, for each of them approaches it in their own unique way, and each has their own unique experience. You can only speak from your experience, and how you would see it, but those with different values and a different take on what sexuality is and what it means to them will see things in an entirely different way.
 
Mad Jack said:
If I ever had children, I would support them in whatever endeavors they chose to pursue, so long as they were honestly and truly happy. If I found out my sister, for instance, were a stripper tomorrow, my first question would be, "are you honestly happy with the job and does the work bother you?" And if she said she was happy and it wasn't something that had a negative impact on her, then I'd be all for it.

I think people tend to oversell the importance of sex and sexuality. You seem to feel that these girls are on stage for validation- they're not. They're up there because it's a paycheck, and, if anything, many of the guys are the ones being exploited, because they can't help but hand over a few dollars just to see some bare breasts and dancing. In the same way a salesman uses sleight of word and presentation to part people from their hard-earned money, so does a stripper do the same, but with glances, a few moves, and the right body language.

Personally, I feel society has an unhealthy relationship with sexuality not because we think too little of it, but because we think too much of it. You view sexuality as some sacred thing to be carefully controlled and used only in the "correct" context, whereas I view the expression of sexuality without repression as the ability to freely explore an inherent part of what makes us human. That repression of sexuality is exactly why we see so many problems in our society- where people find female nipples offensive and label a woman who dares freely express her sexuality any number of demeaning things. By making sex such a big deal and ignoring the reality of how people feel about it and how they prefer to express themselves sexually, you create more problems than you fix more often than not, from gay men that end up married to women to appear socially acceptable only to break up with them years down the line to ineffective abstinence-only sex education that has been proven to do nothing but increase the teen pregnancy rate.

At the end of the day, sex is special to you in a particular way, but you don't get to decide what it means to me or to anyone else for that matter. What you find degrading, others might find liberating, what you find offensive, others might find enjoyable. It's not for you to say how being a stripper will weigh on a girl, for each of them approaches it in their own unique way, and each has their own unique experience. You can only speak from your experience, and how you would see it, but those with different values and a different take on what sexuality is and what it means to them will see things in an entirely different way.
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Interesting, b/c I think people undersell the importance and value of the sexual bond/union.

And w/o question, objectification is a serious issue, especially for women. There is being openminded, and then there is being broadminded to a society's and one's own peril.
 
PikaDocGirl said:
Hi guys. This is a serious question. Long time lurker on these forums. I have competitive stats, but I need money. I've been offered jobs at bars and strip clubs (not prostitution, literally just dancing and/or selling shots/drinks).

I am hesitant to take any of these offers, because I'm not sure if this can come back to haunt me during med school applications or while in med school.

Would this ever be an issue?

Is there anyone out there who stripped before med school?
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OP if you're offered a job at a bar - take that rather than be a stripper - especially if you're school has its own med school. Although it is unlikely, the last thing you need is an adcom from your school seeing you walk out of such a club when he/she is driving past you.... Try to be a bartender, most adcoms don't look down on bartenders. Moreover, I am sure you wouldn't tell a company that you're stripping on your CV?
 
jl lin said:
Your are still reaching here. Being "OK" w/ your sexuality is a misnomer in this sense--in fact, it's a lie of utter rationalization. The need to seek affirmation from crowds of others by primarily using your body and sexuality is it's own problem, and the poor motivation for doing such exists regardless of what a person says about being OK with their own sexuality. You are completely selling YOURSELF as a sexual object for the lust/consumption of others. It's hard to get around this psycho-spiritual reality--focus on whichever aspect of that compound term that you wish. And there absolutely no getting around the reality that is negative exploitation.

And if sex is just sex w/o anything of higher value, then people are just receptacles in which others relieve themselves. That is, on it's face, dehumanizing in the greater sense of what humanity is and the value of what individuals are--that is to say, it's more than being about mere animalistic behavior.

I am not who I am b/c I garner attention and lust from other males, female, etc. That cheapens me as a whole person--and it cheapens those who subscribe to such a mentality. And it cheapens all women and men, and children for that matter.

Finally, it's not merely my problem. It is a problem for the individuals involved and the whole of society. It's a problems that extends across all stages of human development and interaction. And, although you do not have children, ask yourself, in utter and complete honesty, if this is an activity you would find healthy and acceptable for your own child.
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Here's a question for you: How would you speak to a patient who lists her (or his) employment as dancer in a strip club? what about a patient who is a sex worker? what about trans women who work in the entertainment industry? sex industry? Are you open minded enough to treat those patients with respect?
 
I would agree with @jl lin that I think it's problematic for society at large.

Otherwise I find that "sex industry workers or objects" or whatever are just like any other group of women and men and whatever gender non-gender polygender transgender xenogender one is, a range of the adjusted to the narcissistic to the disadvantaged to the average. They are different than other groups in some respects, sure. As a physician I just worry about assault, STDs, drugs, mental health, their children, basically all the big things I worry about in all my patients. More so about STDs and assault because where sex goes, those seem to follow.

I think @jl lin has some strong feelings on it I don't share, but I do think she would treat the groups you mentioned with professional respect (c'mon @jl lin , tell me I'm right)
 
Crayola227 said:
I would agree with @jl lin that I think it's problematic for society at large.

Otherwise I find that "sex industry workers or objects" or whatever are just like any other group of women and men and whatever gender non-gender polygender transgender xenogender one is, a range of the adjusted to the narcissistic to the disadvantaged to the average. They are different than other groups in some respects, sure. As a physician I just worry about assault, STDs, drugs, mental health, their children, basically all the big things I worry about in all my patients. More so about STDs and assault because where sex goes, those seem to follow.

I think @jl lin has some strong feelings on it I don't share, but I do think she would treat the groups you mentioned with professional respect (c'mon @jl lin , tell me I'm right)
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There's different categories of sex work though. I'd be worried about prostitutes, certainly, as there is no regulation outside of Nevada and it is a largely illegal industry, which leaves them dealing specifically with the sorts of men who are willing to illegally pay for sex, in addition to leaving them generally vulnerable in ways you don't see in countries like Australia and the Netherlands where the industry is heavily regulated and legal.

Strippers, however, are a different category of sex worker- most of them don't have sex with any of their patrons. There are some confounding issues with the industry, however, as women with pre-existing mental health issues and those that have been sexually abused are more likely to enter stripping (from the quick research I did, somewhere between a third and half of strippers have pre-existing mental health problems), which can kind of skew the response women have to such an environment. Your average, well-adjusted graduate student with no pre-existing history of sexual trauma that is just in it for school money tends to fare better than a girl with a history of sexual abuse, a psychiatric problem, and no future she can see outside of stripping will. Girl number one will walk away unscathed most of the time, girl number two will view her body as both the cause of many of her problems in the one hand and the only way she can make a decent living on the other. I also think that stripping being as looked down upon as it is is a symptom of our society's puritanical view on sex, and it is that view that lead to the skewing of the industry toward the type of girl that will be most damaged by it.
 
Yes, well, they prefer the term "exotic dancer". Haha.

Yes, absolutely different categories.

LizzyM posed the question "can you be respectful as a physician to" and listed a bunch of occupations that is "sex work" which can mean a lot of things to different people. I guess I should say "sex industry" or "sex entertainment". It's weird to try to categorize these paid activities, some legal, some not.
Webcam, nude pics, phone sex, porn, dancers, escorts, streetwalkers, I must be forgetting something. Adult shops. Doms?

I'm very much against legalized and illegal prostitution, but not so much the rest of it. I guess there's a difference in my mind between the "work" with vs without contact.

Difference in STD risk definitely, but I think any of the rest of it opens people up to assault TBH. I've read some interesting studies about why that would be the case in certain types of work that would seem not to pose greater danger, like sex line.

Speaking as a physician without value judgment, certainly as a matter of public health policy we might debate legal prostitution vs not and impact on STD rates, assault towards prostitution etc, but at the level of the individual I must always recommend fewer partners, always use protection, even if mutually monogamous maybe? (Unless pregnancy desired), and yes, mutually monogamous ideal. Maybe consider sperm washing for pregnancy. Even some forms of non-sexual contact is a bit risky. I've heard of professioner cuddlers. If you are a mutually monogamous cuddler, the risk of transmission of lice, scabies, etc is certainly lower than if you are cuddling 12 clients daily.

There's other issues of course

I dunno, student with eye on the prize vs other reasons people go into sex work, there's differences for sure. Not as many as you would think. As far as history of sexual trauma, I don't know how different that is between dancers in school vs not, I imagine it is higher in the second group as you mentioned simply because anyone not in higher education is at higher risk of marginalization, etc, but I don't know if that's saying much when you look at college sexual assualt stats alone, not to mention the gen pop. Like up to 1/4 women?

TBH there's sort of a rare group doing it in service to education, which isn't too say that the other reasons people go into it aren't equally noble and keep people out of trouble

Some reasons:
Single mom (see that A LOT more than people think)
Self expression
Art
Better wage given the rest of this list:
Flexibility of schedule
Independent contractor
Under the table
Fun
2nd job

There's sorta more squirrelly things I think
Poverty
Supporting bad spending habits
Narcissism
Party culture/rec drug use (even just legal booze)
Poor education
Poor self esteem
Relationship abuse
Sexual trauma
Intimacy issues

The Madonna/Whole complex as they say is certainly an intense issue one faces in any life of sex industry, and that goes for men too.

I'm not convinced that some of the issues around sexual purity, puritan thought, if you will, are to be taken lightly. There's various evidence given what role sex plays in biology for reproduction and relationships, that some degree of desire to restrict sexual activity both individually and as a culture may well arise from that. But I'm a big fan of evolutionary behavior theories.

Sexual stimulation of one sort or another in exhange for resources is a common theme in the animal kingdom at large, so I'm inclined to think ot isn't going anywhere for us as a species.
 
So I had considered being a stripper for a while. One day, I was walking around in the groceries, I met a patient I saw in the ER. Thank God it was the ER and not a strip club - I decided to not become a stripper... lol
 
I didn't bother reading the 4 pages. But to answer OPs question. It's only a detriment if you listed it as an activity and failed to provide compelling evidence during the interview process. 😉
 
I went to law school with a (very bright) woman who stripped through college and law school for tuition money. She was very open about it and even had a blog about it for awhile. She thought the rest of us were a bunch of rubes for financing our educations with student loans.

20 years later I'm still paying back my student loans and I wonder if she wasn't on to something there...
 
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Stripping through med school would be the dumbest thing I ever heard of. Definitely would get the admin looking for a reason to boot you, for the school rep if nothing else. Before med school if you kept if DL maybe get away with it.

I don't want to make this a law vs med thing, but....
 
I worked as a go-go dancer for a couple years in college and made good money. It didn't go on my application, and has had no bearing on my getting accepted to medical school.
 
OP, if your post was not a troll post, you are probably going to do what you want.

As my dad used to say, "If your gonna dance, you have to pay the piper." Pun intended. And no. He would not at all be in supportive of me dancing in such a way--not even show-girl dancing.

He was totally fine with pursuing the arduous art of dancing with a ballet company or teaching the athletic and art part of it. Dancing to show off my goodies and make money. LOL. Nope.
 
whatever5 said:
I worked as a go-go dancer for a couple years in college and made good money. It didn't go on my application, and has had no bearing on my getting accepted to medical school.
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Don't be ridiculous. That's because it was "go-go" dancing (sure 😉) and you never got caught by someone in the admin old stodgey or conservative enough to care ie any of the med school faculty

I can actually imagine the looks on the faces of any number of docs I worked with in med school, pretty hilarious
 
Most docs these days are cool and laid back. The minority who went into admin before us, are for the majority an exception.

As students we would howl with laughter for the **** that people got in trouble for. Ah yeah it would be funny until some doc sat you down and gave you the stink eye and wrote it up in scathing terms
 
Nowaybe this thread can go off topic for examples

It's practically a rite of passage in medicine to get seriously raked over the coals for something totally ridiculous, like asking ahead of time to make something up because you have chemo scheduled

Either it hasn't happened to you yet or you just haven't gotten scared straight ebough.

And I went to a really laid back institution
 
Crayola227 said:
Don't be ridiculous. That's because it was "go-go" dancing (sure 😉) and you never got caught by someone in the admin old stodgey or conservative enough to care ie any of the med school faculty

I can actually imagine the looks on the faces of any number of docs I worked with in med school, pretty hilarious
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I don't understand how someone conservative enough to care would ever catch you, seeing as they would have to be liberal enough to frequent those institutions.
 
whatever5 said:
I worked as a go-go dancer for a couple years in college and made good money. It didn't go on my application, and has had no bearing on my getting accepted to medical school.
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That's awesome! I used to be a big night club photographer in Chicago while doing my post-back. I got to know a lot of the go-go dancers and they were great people. 🙂
 
So far this thread has been an interesting read. I've always been fascinated with perceptions of sexual entertainment and the industry. I think that there are a few things we can take away so far for certain...

Some people might have a big problem with someone working as a stripper, while others not at all. But since you see a wide spectrum of opinions, this IS something you do NOT put on your application.

With that said, let me remind you that the medical school application process is highly competitive and as it is, applicants don't have enough time to fill up their applications with as many ECs as they would like. Therefore, regardless of what anyone might think of being a stripper, doing any sort of activity that will take up significant time and will NOT go on your application is a bad idea. Even if you make good money now, it will be kind of pointless to "pay off your medical school tuition" if this activity may have prevented you from getting in to medical school in the first place.
 
You may be underestimating what a 5 hr shift on a Friday or Saturday night might bring once a week.

The key whenever a busy premed makes a night of it at the bar, is not to spend too much time recovering from a hangover. Now that's print advice.
 
I just love how seriously everyone is taking this thread
 
Especially since its origin is completely troll-ville.
 
PikaDocGirl said:
Hi guys. This is a serious question. Long time lurker on these forums. I have competitive stats, but I need money. I've been offered jobs at bars and strip clubs (not prostitution, literally just dancing and/or selling shots/drinks).

I am hesitant to take any of these offers, because I'm not sure if this can come back to haunt me during med school applications or while in med school.

Would this ever be an issue?

Is there anyone out there who stripped before med school?
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Did you find anything about areas where you have to get a license to work as a stripper, and whether med schools would find out about that? I've been thinking about the same thing, and where I live right now (and want to apply to med school) you need a license in order to be a dancer at a strip club.
 
Yeah, I mentioned that and it's a good point.

I'm not sure if having to get a license to strip or being on a registry matters, but I'm paranoid of the government keeping track of **** like that.

It's common that a club will want to photocopy your DL or ID to have proof on file of your age, just ask and be sure that doesn't go anywhere like to the state if that concerns you.
 
ill add some male stripper perspective to this:
i've been a male stripper for the past year, and oddly enough, some of my best networking has been a result of that job. hell, i even gave a lap dance to an adcom member of one of my top choice schools. plus, if you tell customers you are gonna be going to medical school and you mention how expensive it is, they usually tip you more.
 
genericpremedstudent said:
ill add some male stripper perspective to this:
i've been a male stripper for the past year, and oddly enough, some of my best networking has been a result of that job. hell, i even gave a lap dance to an adcom member of one of my top choice schools. plus, if you tell customers you are gonna be going to medical school and you mention how expensive it is, they usually tip you more.
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The last part is true.

However, as far as networking and giving a lapdance to adcom, please update this thread and let us know if you actually get accepted to a med school, particularly if it's one that knows of this job.
 
Crayola227 said:
The last part is true.

However, as far as networking and giving a lapdance to adcom, please update this thread and let us know if you actually get accepted to a med school, particularly if it's one that knows of this job.
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Haha ok I'll let you know how it goes. But seriously, because if stripping, I got set up with several shadowing opportunities and a clinical research job. Plus guys would pay my rent and tuition
 
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