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ksmi117 said:
Just hunches. Abber "accidentally" killed someone the night before last (maybe...). We'd already had a mishap with a dagger, so I'd think we'd all be more careful with the objects, ya know?

WTF and LIS haven't been around much so I guess it's just because I don't feel I have a reason to trust them. :shrug:
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I didn't realize that Abber was the one that killed someone the other night. That does seem strange. I think it was DocE that said she was on his list as well. I am going to go back and read her posts to see if I can find anything weird.

I know LIS is still taking finals. I don't know if that's why he hasn't been around though.
 
Lissarae06 said:
I didn't realize that Abber was the one that killed someone the other night. That does seem strange. I think it was DocE that said she was on his list as well. I am going to go back and read her posts to see if I can find anything weird.

I know LIS is still taking finals. I don't know if that's why he hasn't been around though.
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I think the killing was a semi-accident because abber was very busy and was not around to say "don't use it", so dyachei RNGed the item target?
 
DocEspana said:
Ugh. I have to play what the facts tell me. Emiloo told me her role and that the power was if she is attacked she has a choice of defending herself or sending the character to the wall. While she had no idea who stannis was, she was very confident she understood her power correctly. Let's do some + and - here.

- LIS had the horse and used it last night (maybe it let him resist the move to the wall)

- LIS was asking me a lot for info on the people I trust.

- emiloo seemed very confident that anyone who kills her would be sent to the wall. (LIS was already there)

- I've never seen a character bolded in dyacheis write ups unless they were dead. Maybe that's the clue that emiloos power is giving us.

+ I actually do trust LIS. He may not have handed me any strong wolf identities, but he was useful nonetheless.

+/- I get the feeling wolf abilities to kill are tied to being in the group the target is in (LIS was with emiloo at time of kill)

+/- I never confirmed LISs role, but I have trusted him for a while now.

I guess I have to trust that emiloo will have no reason to lie and supppse that maybe being already on the wall allowed him to use the horse to leave the wall. lynch LIS

If anyone has any bettet ideas, please please run with them. I hate killing someone on a potential miscommunication.
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Just saw this. LIS told me that it was you that suggested he use the horse. Was he lying to me?
 
Wait, am I dead of just bruised? I don't want to say more and break the rules until I know for sure...?
 
WhtsThFrequency said:
I think the killing was a semi-accident because abber was very busy and was not around to say "don't use it", so dyachei RNGed the item target?
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She said that she told dyachei that she wanted to use the needle but that the person it was used on was probably RNGed. We don't know that it killed someone, but it's definitely possible. Like I said, just hunches, but that seems sketch to me.
 
I'm on board with an LIS lynch.

The only thing holding me back (and we have discussed this within our group) was the NStarz vote. When I have been a wolf, and I see an innocent being bandwagoned, I've often thrown out an RNG vote, saying stuff like "oh, my gut's not feeling it, etc" so when the innocent is revealed, I can look good.

However, that theory (I had an underlying worry that NStarz was innocent even though I voted) went bust when hey, NStarz is bad! That then brings up the question...would LIS be so obvious to not vote for a wolf? Or, given the fact that their numbers are so depleted, was it a last-ditch effort to try and save a compatriot?
 
Lissarae06 said:
Pretty sure you are dead since your role was revealed and your name is crossed out.
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**** ok it wasn't crossed out on my phone for some reason. Damn this shall be confusing for all lol. Get 'em villagers!!!****
 
WhtsThFrequency said:
I'm on board with an LIS lynch.

The only thing holding me back (and we have discussed this within our group) was the NStarz vote. When I have been a wolf, and I see an innocent being bandwagoned, I've often thrown out an RNG vote, saying stuff like "oh, my gut's not feeling it, etc" so when the innocent is revealed, I can look good.

However, that theory (I had an underlying worry that NStarz was innocent even though I voted) went bust when hey, NStarz is bad! That then brings up the question...would LIS be so obvious to not vote for a wolf? Or, given the fact that their numbers are so depleted, was it a last-ditch effort to try and save a compatriot?
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I think I get what you are saying. So you think either one of these happened 1. LIS isn't a wolf because he didn't bandwagon NStarz who was a wolf or 2. LIS is a wolf and that was hit attempt at saving NStarz?

I feel like 2 would be really obvious but I guess desperate times call for desperate measures. I'm so confused. This whole game devyn has been saying she trusts LIS. Now everyone is suspicious of him. I hope a seer comes forward with some solid info. I think I'm going to vote for LIS since that seems right but I want to wait just a tad to see if anyone else has better info. I suggest someone investigate Abber if she hasn't been already. The whole using needle thing is weird.
 
WhtsThFrequency said:
I'm on board with an LIS lynch.

The only thing holding me back (and we have discussed this within our group) was the NStarz vote. When I have been a wolf, and I see an innocent being bandwagoned, I've often thrown out an RNG vote, saying stuff like "oh, my gut's not feeling it, etc" so when the innocent is revealed, I can look good.

However, that theory (I had an underlying worry that NStarz was innocent even though I voted) went bust when hey, NStarz is bad! That then brings up the question...would LIS be so obvious to not vote for a wolf? Or, given the fact that their numbers are so depleted, was it a last-ditch effort to try and save a compatriot?
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Or different wolf groups?
 
ksmi117 said:
Just hunches. Abber "accidentally" killed someone the night before last (maybe...). We'd already had a mishap with a dagger, so I'd think we'd all be more careful with the objects, ya know?
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Not sure what you're talking about, here. Who is it you think I've killed?
 
Now that that's been cleared up and in light of what DocE said about LIS, LIS is now at the top of my list.

Emiloo was killed by an other, and Nstarz was Jamie Lannister. There's no guarantee that LIS knew Nstarz was a wolf.

lynch LIS

I'll change it if someone has a good defense for him, but this seems to me like our best option right now.
 
DocEspana said:
Ugh. I have to play what the facts tell me. Emiloo told me her role and that the power was if she is attacked she has a choice of defending herself or sending the character to the wall.
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Could it be the reason she didn't defend herself because she was one of the RNG that dyach mentioned? I don't know the time stamp of the last time she was on?
 
ksmi117 said:
Now that that's been cleared up and in light of what DocE said about LIS, LIS is now at the top of my list.

Emiloo was killed by an other, and Nstarz was Jamie Lannister. There's no guarantee that LIS knew Nstarz was a wolf.

lynch LIS

I'll change it if someone has a good defense for him, but this seems to me like our best option right now.
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This is what I was thinking too.

for now lynch LIS
 
Thank goodness that mess was cleared up. I was like WTF?! Who the heck am I supposed to have killed?

I still have yet to have an item beyond the carbonite from the SW game. lol.

Anyway, our group has talked it over, and right now LIS is at the top of (at least) my list. WTF mentioned the sneaky wolfie maneuver she would have used if she were a wolf...and then when NStarz was a wolf, I was like, "Well poop. He's probably not that stupid, then."

BUT if there are two groups of wolves and they don't know about eachother...then he may have really thought she was innocent...and was trying to make himself look good for "when she came out as innocent."

Tricksy wolfies.
 
Sorry guys - was at the dentist as chipped my tooth on an m&m last night and now have to have a filling put in or some ****e. 🙁 Have a temp thing over it until next Wednesday.

Anyhow, LIS has a good role unless he has been converted. I would like to wait and hear his defense before I jump on any lynch of him.
 
devyn said:
Sorry guys - was at the dentist as chipped my tooth on an m&m last night and now have to have a filling put in or some ****e. 🙁 Have a temp thing over it until next Wednesday.

Anyhow, LIS has a good role unless he has been converted. I would like to wait and hear his defense before I jump on any lynch of him.
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How do you chip a tooth on an M&M?
 
WhtsThFrequency said:
Devyn, you might need to spill the beans as to what you know if LIS doesn't show up today.

How do you KNOW the role is good? How do you know LIS is telling the truth?
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I don't need to know LIS is telling the truth as the info is confirmed information from a reliable source. The role I have been told is a good role through people who know a lot about GoT. I will tell what his role is if he does not come forward at some point today.
 
WhtsThFrequency said:
Devyn, you might need to spill the beans as to what you know if LIS doesn't show up today.

How do you KNOW the role is good? How do you know LIS is telling the truth?
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I'd like to hear this as well. I hope LIS can get on here and at least attempt a defense. I wouldn't feel so bad lynching him if he can't come up with anything :laugh:
 
devyn said:
I don't need to know LIS is telling the truth as the info is confirmed information from a reliable source. The role I have been told is a good role through people who know a lot about GoT. I will tell what his role is if he does not come forward at some point today.
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When was it confirmed??
 
Lissarae06 said:
I'd like to hear this as well. I hope LIS can get on here and at least attempt a defense. I wouldn't feel so bad lynching him if he can't come up with anything :laugh:
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Haha I feel like he's smart enough to comes up with something 😛
 
Lissarae06 said:
Just saw this. LIS told me that it was you that suggested he use the horse. Was he lying to me?
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The horse appeared to be a use it or lose it item. He had it and asked where to go. O suggested his current location so that he could carry information to some people over there.

Clearly I was all about trustibg him then. now I'm not so sure.
 
DocEspana said:
The horse appeared to be a use it or lose it item. He had it and asked where to go. O suggested his current location so that he could carry information to some people over there.

Clearly I was all about trustibg him then. now I'm not so sure.
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Ok thanks. I just wanted to confirm his story about you being the one to suggest it.
 
devyn said:
I don't need to know LIS is telling the truth as the info is confirmed information from a reliable source. The role I have been told is a good role through people who know a lot about GoT. I will tell what his role is if he does not come forward at some point today.
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Ok.

I am going to unlynch LIS FOR NOW, only to avoid a potential reaching of plurality before a defense is made.

As an aside....I'm really surprised that you haven't been attacked or killed yet, DocE. Just sayin....
 
Official Vote Tally:
LIS - 6 (DocE, kismet, AKDream, wldlfstdnt, abbercadaver, lissa)
 
First, I don't know what LIS's role is, but there is a 50/50 chance (based on the roles that I DO know from the original Wall) that he is good. I just am not sure if it is him or someone else on the Wall. So I can't vote to lynch him.

As for the Needle, yes it was me. I got a PM from Dyachei saying it was fixed and asked if I wanted to use it. I said yes. I thought it would do something cool since people had already talked about the Imp dagger. In LOTR we had Sting which was a sword but indicated good and bad people. I didn't specify someone cause I didn't know it would attack. I think I was asleep, or in class, and Dyachei must have used and RNG cause two people died that night. Although in reality, if she didn't and just didn't let me use it, the person with the dagger could have killed whomever died that night. Didn't it say stabbed multiple times.

For full disclosure I had the Imp Dagger last night and did NOT use it.
 
I had suspicions of LIS last night and PMed packen about it. She told me that he is in confidence with SnS, SD, and through them her. So I would like to hear what these people have to say before casting my vote.

On another note, I may have reason to believe to the lead wolf is being protected at this point... Still trying to figure this out. I think though that the protection may becoming from an unknowing villager.
 
I trust devyns info. No worries there. But Im concerned of conversion, not that theyve always been a wolf.

A thouhht crossed my mind (and maybe I'm paranoid now). Lissarae, who i have no reason to suspect, is also still on the wall. Maybe emiloo can still be right if she did it, and LIS's horse use was coincidental.

Ugh. I hate muddying the water because I know LIS was good recently. But lissarae has, perhaps, been even more good and made sure a wolf lynch went yhe right way with her tie breaker.

Just trying to cover all the bases. I'd say that I'm just as likely as lissa since im stuck here too.... But I've previously revealed (in pms) to people what emiloos power was. Id be a ***** to tel people then be forced to stay here.
 
bbeventer said:
I had suspicions of LIS last night and PMed packen about it. She told me that he is in confidence with SnS, SD, and through them her. So I would like to hear what these people have to say before casting my vote.

On another note, I may have reason to believe to the lead wolf is being protected at this point... Still trying to figure this out. I think though that the protection may becoming from an unknowing villager.
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Protected from investigation or attacks?
 
Don't lynch LIS. I know what his role is and I believe if he had been converted that certain important people would be dead by now, unless he was just recently converted.
 
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