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I'm leaning v/v on ziggy and coffee who are possibly over-interpreting their information
I'm suspicious of those quickly jumping on the "dark" = evil vote; in order - miz, lawper, jboo, kc

Lynch Mizcheif

 

[SARdoghandler]

I'm still not completely against going for Coffee again today, though I think that's just my tinfoil hat and it's more likely given the hints she's dropping that she's a villager. I'd be willing to look at Em, Allie, or genny today. Possibly miz too. Of the people who jumped on my vote today that one felt the most opportunistic and gave me the most squidgey feelings

Edit: ninjaed slightly by mutts 😛

 

[Navilly]

D̵̞̱͕̤̾̈́͑͑́͛4̸̹̿ͅ ̵̡̧̨̘͉͖̖̮͕̲͙̫̽̓͛̇͘͘͝UnƠ̸̙̞͔̟̟̖̰͓̤͚̖͙̂̏̈́̓͂̓̽͛́̂͛͌ͅf̴̺͕̖̉̈f̵̡̲̞̬̩̒̓͋̐̈́̑̄̆͛͋͛͂̌̚͝í̴̢̙̦͍̜̽͑̿́͆́͒̾͘c̷̡̼̞͇̠̻̜̮͓̿͜ĩ̶̗͔̰̜͎̖̹͉̿̑́̿̓̍͛͌͜͝͝ä̴̡͔̮̣̼̙̯͙́̈́̎̌̐͐̄͆̂̓̿l̶̺͎̈͆̾ ̸̢̱̬̩̗̳̖̹̄͆̉̈͂ͅL̴̨̢̯̞̥̪͖̺̼̞̞̫͔͑͒̀͛̏̐͒̓̓͑ͅŷ̵̱̯̝̼̄͑͒̈́̂̚͠n̸̰͕͓̪̫͎̻͂̈́͜͜c̷͖͇̫̯͎͕̘͕̅͌̉̍̕͜h̶̗͉̹̰̣̆̄ ̷̛̛͉̬̦̠̭͍͍̍̓̎̏̓͌̆̀̿́͐̐̽Ţ̷̖̺̼̘̰͆a̶̜͆̿l̵̞̭̯̼̓͌̐̽̑̈́̋̓͛͊̇̎͘l̶̛̜̯̝̬͋̈͒̓͑͌̐̆͊́̉̚y̷̧̧̛͚̤̬̘̗͔̏̀̂̒́̿̇̈́̅̉͜͝

Barks (2) - paws, stagg
sar (5) - koffee, zigjaz, Miz, jboo, kc
Emlady (1) - StartingOverVet
Ziggy (2) - Capri, Lawper
Miz(1) - Mutts

11/28

Ḏ̸͉͕͓̞̦̫̀͂́̿̈́̊̀͋̆͝͝ḝ̴̗̘͔̘̤̱̯͖̄̇̌̉̃̀̐͂̊̔͝a̷̢̮̣̫̦͎͚̯̮̟͖͊͛̽̋̉̑̑̀̀͗͘͘d̷̝̣̞̭̙̼͙̣͎̀̔̒̈̌̕l̶̢̩̤̖̳͈̜̮̩̜͍̠͖̀̔͝i̸͖̻͚̪̣̺̯̓̅̎̀̍̈́͂͝͠ṅ̵̝̦̆̀e̵̟̼̮͈̱̦͈̬̯̒̃̒͛ ̷̛̲̗̩̭͇̝̱̥͙̥̼̟͖͋͑̈́̐͑͑̆̃͘1̸̧̫̝͓̐̓͂͆͒͗̃͂͌͂̕͠͝0̴̧̖̲͍̜̙̤͚̤̐͊̃̇̅̆̓̏͋̆́͜p̶͇̔͊͂͝͝m̵̡̨̬̹͚̞̲̥̫͎̰̿̍̇̀̋̊̓͑͊̀̅̉͝͝ ̴̛̭̯̣̳̮͖͎̥̣̫̱̭͚̜͌̓̌͂̉̉̀̀͐͆̑̈́̚̚ȩ̵̜͔̻̩̼͖͋̽́̿̏̿̈́̑ͅs̵͍͔̲͖̲̘͕̎̑̅̐̈́͊̚̕ͅt̴̡͇̳̩̪͍̰̗̱̓͜ (~6 hrs)

 

[dolphin106258]

So I am historically pretty bad at reading SAR, and when I read both write ups at like 3 am I was so confused I’m assuming based on my delirious state lol, and upon rereading I don’t think I’m just gonna jump on a SAR bandwagon just for the possibility of dark correctly correlating with evil even though we all seem to be forgetting we are in a fluid game per the mod. Also don’t really feel weird about zig, I feel like she’s playing village to me. Coffee is certainly a ? for me.

I don’t like as others have said the quick jumps to lynch SAR without actually feeling sketchy about her play. I Did not like Lawpy going back and forth like that on SAR at all. So for now at least..

Lynch lawpy

 

[dolphin106258]

Also side note I still don’t feel satisfied with Barks response to staying on Stagg and that stuff from yesterday, so could go there again, but I’d rather look into other candidates today.

 

[KCgophervet]

I'm leaning v/v on ziggy and coffee who are possibly over-interpreting their information
I'm suspicious of those quickly jumping on the "dark" = evil vote; in order - miz, lawper, jboo, kc

Don't misrepresent my vote. I am not jumping on "dark" = evil, I'm jumping on someone repeatedly insinuating they have hard evidence that SAR is a wolf + minor feels from previous days (which you can see in my first post of reads on people).

 

[Trilt]

Am I seriously leading lynch right now because the word "Dark" shows up in my name? Because that is probably the weakest sounding reason to lynch someone of all time and graspy as all hell. Yo @CoffeeQuestionMark wanna explain in a little more detail why you're judging me so hard on a role name when there's no guarantee a role name seer is playing for a village team? Maybe you were worried your name might come again today so you had to throw someone else under the bus and got lucky?

I'm not feeling your lynch but this is some real crap defending imo. I honestly agree with the conclusion that dark does not necessarily mean evil - but early game is all about grabbing at straws. It's not completely unreasonable even if it's not something I'm going to jump on.

I want to actually continue to lynch johnnaboo.

Because I continue to see excuses and a no-thoughts jump onto the SAR bandwagon. I give mild kudos for asking for reads from a couple people but not enough to back off.

On even older suspicions, though, I would still like to hear... anything concrete from @Skimble.

 

[Navilly]

D̵̞̱͕̤̾̈́͑͑́͛4̸̹̿ͅ ̵̡̧̨̘͉͖̖̮͕̲͙̫̽̓͛̇͘͘͝UnƠ̸̙̞͔̟̟̖̰͓̤͚̖͙̂̏̈́̓͂̓̽͛́̂͛͌ͅf̴̺͕̖̉̈f̵̡̲̞̬̩̒̓͋̐̈́̑̄̆͛͋͛͂̌̚͝í̴̢̙̦͍̜̽͑̿́͆́͒̾͘c̷̡̼̞͇̠̻̜̮͓̿͜ĩ̶̗͔̰̜͎̖̹͉̿̑́̿̓̍͛͌͜͝͝ä̴̡͔̮̣̼̙̯͙́̈́̎̌̐͐̄͆̂̓̿l̶̺͎̈͆̾ ̸̢̱̬̩̗̳̖̹̄͆̉̈͂ͅL̴̨̢̯̞̥̪͖̺̼̞̞̫͔͑͒̀͛̏̐͒̓̓͑ͅŷ̵̱̯̝̼̄͑͒̈́̂̚͠n̸̰͕͓̪̫͎̻͂̈́͜͜c̷͖͇̫̯͎͕̘͕̅͌̉̍̕͜h̶̗͉̹̰̣̆̄ ̷̛̛͉̬̦̠̭͍͍̍̓̎̏̓͌̆̀̿́͐̐̽Ţ̷̖̺̼̘̰͆a̶̜͆̿l̵̞̭̯̼̓͌̐̽̑̈́̋̓͛͊̇̎͘l̶̛̜̯̝̬͋̈͒̓͑͌̐̆͊́̉̚y̷̧̧̛͚̤̬̘̗͔̏̀̂̒́̿̇̈́̅̉͜͝

Barks (2) - paws, stagg
sar (5) - koffee, zigjaz, Miz, jboo, kc
Emlady (1) - StartingOverVet
Ziggy (2) - Capri, Lawper
Miz(1) - Mutts
lawpy(1) - Dolphin
Johnnaboo(1) - Trilt

13/28

Ḏ̸͉͕͓̞̦̫̀͂́̿̈́̊̀͋̆͝͝ḝ̴̗̘͔̘̤̱̯͖̄̇̌̉̃̀̐͂̊̔͝a̷̢̮̣̫̦͎͚̯̮̟͖͊͛̽̋̉̑̑̀̀͗͘͘d̷̝̣̞̭̙̼͙̣͎̀̔̒̈̌̕l̶̢̩̤̖̳͈̜̮̩̜͍̠͖̀̔͝i̸͖̻͚̪̣̺̯̓̅̎̀̍̈́͂͝͠ṅ̵̝̦̆̀e̵̟̼̮͈̱̦͈̬̯̒̃̒͛ ̷̛̲̗̩̭͇̝̱̥͙̥̼̟͖͋͑̈́̐͑͑̆̃͘1̸̧̫̝͓̐̓͂͆͒͗̃͂͌͂̕͠͝0̴̧̖̲͍̜̙̤͚̤̐͊̃̇̅̆̓̏͋̆́͜p̶͇̔͊͂͝͝m̵̡̨̬̹͚̞̲̥̫͎̰̿̍̇̀̋̊̓͑͊̀̅̉͝͝ ̴̛̭̯̣̳̮͖͎̥̣̫̱̭͚̜͌̓̌͂̉̉̀̀͐͆̑̈́̚̚ȩ̵̜͔̻̩̼͖͋̽́̿̏̿̈́̑ͅs̵͍͔̲͖̲̘͕̎̑̅̐̈́͊̚̕ͅt̴̡͇̳̩̪͍̰̗̱̓͜ (~6 hrs)

(any votes in italics are illegal votes)

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

I have reasons to strongly believe that the way this plot is going caused the knight to jump out of the air craft, not because any person attacked the knight. I don't want to get into why I know this.

Ok. Can I ask whether you think the knight is a protagonist or an antagonist?

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

So I am historically pretty bad at reading SAR, and when I read both write ups at like 3 am I was so confused I’m assuming based on my delirious state lol, and upon rereading I don’t think I’m just gonna jump on a SAR bandwagon just for the possibility of dark correctly correlating with evil even though we all seem to be forgetting we are in a fluid game per the mod. Also don’t really feel weird about zig, I feel like she’s playing village to me. Coffee is certainly a ? for me.

I don’t like as others have said the quick jumps to lynch SAR without actually feeling sketchy about her play. I Did not like Lawpy going back and forth like that on SAR at all. So for now at least..

Lynch lawpy

I don't think Lawper can be lynched/is in the game

D̵̞̱͕̤̾̈́͑͑́͛4̸̹̿ͅ ̵̡̧̨̘͉͖̖̮͕̲͙̫̽̓͛̇͘͘͝UnƠ̸̙̞͔̟̟̖̰͓̤͚̖͙̂̏̈́̓͂̓̽͛́̂͛͌ͅf̴̺͕̖̉̈f̵̡̲̞̬̩̒̓͋̐̈́̑̄̆͛͋͛͂̌̚͝í̴̢̙̦͍̜̽͑̿́͆́͒̾͘c̷̡̼̞͇̠̻̜̮͓̿͜ĩ̶̗͔̰̜͎̖̹͉̿̑́̿̓̍͛͌͜͝͝ä̴̡͔̮̣̼̙̯͙́̈́̎̌̐͐̄͆̂̓̿l̶̺͎̈͆̾ ̸̢̱̬̩̗̳̖̹̄͆̉̈͂ͅL̴̨̢̯̞̥̪͖̺̼̞̞̫͔͑͒̀͛̏̐͒̓̓͑ͅŷ̵̱̯̝̼̄͑͒̈́̂̚͠n̸̰͕͓̪̫͎̻͂̈́͜͜c̷͖͇̫̯͎͕̘͕̅͌̉̍̕͜h̶̗͉̹̰̣̆̄ ̷̛̛͉̬̦̠̭͍͍̍̓̎̏̓͌̆̀̿́͐̐̽Ţ̷̖̺̼̘̰͆a̶̜͆̿l̵̞̭̯̼̓͌̐̽̑̈́̋̓͛͊̇̎͘l̶̛̜̯̝̬͋̈͒̓͑͌̐̆͊́̉̚y̷̧̧̛͚̤̬̘̗͔̏̀̂̒́̿̇̈́̅̉͜͝

Barks (2) - paws, stagg
sar (5) - koffee, zigjaz, Miz, jboo, kc
Emlady (1) - StartingOverVet
Ziggy (2) - Capri, Lawper
Miz(1) - Mutts
lawpy(1) - Dolphin
Johnnaboo(1) - Trilt

13/28

Ḏ̸͉͕͓̞̦̫̀͂́̿̈́̊̀͋̆͝͝ḝ̴̗̘͔̘̤̱̯͖̄̇̌̉̃̀̐͂̊̔͝a̷̢̮̣̫̦͎͚̯̮̟͖͊͛̽̋̉̑̑̀̀͗͘͘d̷̝̣̞̭̙̼͙̣͎̀̔̒̈̌̕l̶̢̩̤̖̳͈̜̮̩̜͍̠͖̀̔͝i̸͖̻͚̪̣̺̯̓̅̎̀̍̈́͂͝͠ṅ̵̝̦̆̀e̵̟̼̮͈̱̦͈̬̯̒̃̒͛ ̷̛̲̗̩̭͇̝̱̥͙̥̼̟͖͋͑̈́̐͑͑̆̃͘1̸̧̫̝͓̐̓͂͆͒͗̃͂͌͂̕͠͝0̴̧̖̲͍̜̙̤͚̤̐͊̃̇̅̆̓̏͋̆́͜p̶͇̔͊͂͝͝m̵̡̨̬̹͚̞̲̥̫͎̰̿̍̇̀̋̊̓͑͊̀̅̉͝͝ ̴̛̭̯̣̳̮͖͎̥̣̫̱̭͚̜͌̓̌͂̉̉̀̀͐͆̑̈́̚̚ȩ̵̜͔̻̩̼͖͋̽́̿̏̿̈́̑ͅs̵͍͔̲͖̲̘͕̎̑̅̐̈́͊̚̕ͅt̴̡͇̳̩̪͍̰̗̱̓͜ (~6 hrs)

wait.... can he?? I am confused

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

I don't think Lawper can be lynched/is in the game

wait.... can he?? I am confused

Today during the glitch anyone who was unknown can be lynched

 

[Navilly]

Today during the glitch anyone who was unknown can be lynched

Incorrect, they are the exception to the rule here.

I have marked it in italics to indicate it is an illegal vote, but placing it on the tally to show that they voted.

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

Incorrect, they are the exception to the rule here.

I have marked it in italics to indicate it is an illegal vote, but placing it on the tally to show that they voted.

lawper is the one person we can't Lynch today?? 😕😱 -_-

 

[Navilly]

lawper is the one person we can't Lynch today?? 😕😱 -_-

All unknown locations are the exception to the rule.

 

[WildZoo]

I have seen other role names and can tell good from bad.

Can you? Because I don't think you can reasonably tell a bad role just from seeing good ones. Unless I missed something you have no confirmed antagonistic roles. So unless you suddenly have insight into what those look like, I'm not inclined to take a role seering as an affiliation seering in a game of this type.

Why would a role seer exist if roles were not mostly indicative?

...you have not played enough games lol

 

[PippyPony]

Lynch Skim

For reasons stated the last time

Also want to hear from @Stagg737 , since he hasn't been around much after no longer being on the chopping block

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

Just checking in. I’ve been gone all day. Just got home and out of my blues, so I’m gonna spend some time with my kids. Once they’re asleep, I’ll go through and put in a vote.

 

[Lawpy]

So I am historically pretty bad at reading SAR, and when I read both write ups at like 3 am I was so confused I’m assuming based on my delirious state lol, and upon rereading I don’t think I’m just gonna jump on a SAR bandwagon just for the possibility of dark correctly correlating with evil even though we all seem to be forgetting we are in a fluid game per the mod. Also don’t really feel weird about zig, I feel like she’s playing village to me. Coffee is certainly a ? for me.

I don’t like as others have said the quick jumps to lynch SAR without actually feeling sketchy about her play. I Did not like Lawpy going back and forth like that on SAR at all. So for now at least..

Lynch lawpy

I like how you have consistently voted me in the past few games even though i've been village.

 

[Lawpy]

....this is your defense?

I have seen other role names and can tell good from bad.
Why would a role seer exist if roles were not mostly indicative?

Pretty sure i got a version of a role seer in the ireland game unless i'm confusing the seer types

 

[WildZoo]

Just checking in. I’ve been gone all day. Just got home and out of my blues, so I’m gonna spend some time with my kids. Once they’re asleep, I’ll go through and put in a vote.

I wanted to be a (joking, playful) dick about unnecessary life updates

But I also wanted to post a picture of me with a frog I caught while pond sampling today.

So...

Spoiler: Ribbit

*poof*

 

[StartingoverVet]

###unlynch emlady
Lynch SARS. ######


SARS defense is ridiculous. Says nothing and acts upset. Sounds full on wolf to me. Personally i was not convinced by the dark in name idea, but SARS convinced me otherwise.

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

I wanted to be a (joking, playful) dick about unnecessary life updates

But I also wanted to post a picture of me with a frog I caught while pond sampling today.

So...

Spoiler: Ribbit

View attachment 257905

Omg that frog’s ****ing face.

 

[PippyPony]

Pretty sure i got a version of a role seer in the ireland game unless i'm confusing the seer types

You did, but there was a wolf with an extremely visible, named-based on-thread extra kill mechanic, and a villager who was literally named after a saint, among other things

I'm not sure that would be the case here given that I don't think Nav would make things quite so cut and dry. So, I still don't really like the role name as the only reason to be voting for someone.

That being said, I'm going to laugh if SAR is a wolf, because I put her at strong village on D1, and I found out today from AM what my village win stats are.
Tl;dr: people probably shouldn't be taking my reads too seriously lol

 

[emlady09]

Trying to get a sub, sorry guys got to much going on to put in the amount of time I'd like to play!

 

[WildZoo]

Omg that frog’s ****ing face.

Spoiler: It has been memed

(Bsal is the amphibian pathogen I do research on)

 

[PippyPony]

###unlynch emlady
Lynch SARS. ######


SARS defense is ridiculous. Says nothing and acts upset. Sounds full on wolf to me. Personally i was not convinced by the dark in name idea, but SARS convinced me otherwise.

I have had you at a largely village lean, but something about the timing of your posts today has felt off to me.

If she does flip wolf, I may come back to this. Feels a little like a delayed reaction

 

[WildZoo]

That being said, I'm going to laugh if SAR is a wolf, because I put her at strong village on D1, and I found out today from AM what my village win stats are.
Tl;dr: people probably shouldn't be taking my reads too seriously lol

I haven't done the statistical analysis on my village win stats (my guess is not great) but I did say similar things in my role PM re: SAR just a bit ago. Not eating any hats though so at least there's that 😛

 

[Animal Midwife]

I'm going to

lynch jboo

because I refuse to participate in SAR vs Coffee? if it can't be explained outside of mechanics.

 

[SARdoghandler]

lynch genny

Because I'm willing to give Em a break for now if she's trying to find a sub.

 

[SARdoghandler]

###unlynch emlady
Lynch SARS. ######


SARS defense is ridiculous. Says nothing and acts upset. Sounds full on wolf to me. Personally i was not convinced by the dark in name idea, but SARS convinced me otherwise.

I wouldn't call it a defense. Yes, Coffee's information about my role is correct. Lynching me for it and not for anything tangible on thread is silly, imo. If enough people want to bite that bone, then I may provide stronger arguments as to why lynching me may be a bad idea. But if I don't have to, some information is better off if it's not on the thread.

 

[dolphin106258]

I don't think Lawper can be lynched/is in the game

wait.... can he?? I am confused

Incorrect, they are the exception to the rule here.

I have marked it in italics to indicate it is an illegal vote, but placing it on the tally to show that they voted.

Oh dang my bad, I misunderstood.

I like how you have consistently voted me in the past few games even though i've been village.

Well that’s a fun non defense you got there. Care to try something else.

 

[dolphin106258]

Unlynch lawpy
Lynch Barks

 

[Lawpy]

Oh dang my bad, I misunderstood.

Well that’s a fun non defense you got there. Care to try something else.

nah not really

 

[dolphin106258]

nah not really

Okay then once you’re lynchable again expect a vote from me. Tired of people not explaining themselves and think they can do whatever but say well you’ve been wrong I’ve always been village. Well idk maybe this time you’re a wolf. What kind of statement even is that.

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

I would probably be voting lawps if I could tbh.

 

[Lawpy]

Okay then once you’re lynchable again expect a vote from me. Tired of people not explaining themselves and think they can do whatever but say well you’ve been wrong I’ve always been village. Well idk maybe this time you’re a wolf. What kind of statement even is that.

maybe i'm just tired of all the random playstyle things going on that's distracting my focus from the actual game, so responding to a vote on me for changing my mind while reading things isn't really something that concerns me atm. also my point was you read me wrong repeatedly for similar reasons and this here isn't any different. I think out loud when trying to make sense of what's going on and am prone to slip ups because my reads aren't perfect

 

[Lawpy]

I would probably be voting lawps if I could tbh.

I probably won't stop that lynch from happening tbh

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

Unlynch lawpy
Lynch Barks

Apologize for missing something obvious if I did because I haven’t read through everything today yet, but why barks?

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

I probably won't stop that lynch from happening tbh

Why not?

 

[Lawpy]

Why not?

because i'm getting tired and jaded

 

[Lawpy]

wait testing:

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

because i'm getting tired and jaded

Seems odd.

 

[Trilt]

..you have not played enough games lol

I feel that good/well thought out game design really shouldn't have useless roles. Sometimes ones just mostly for entertainment, sure, but not just roles for the sake of roles. But discerning good vs. bad is by far not the only possible use for a role seer so wouldn't assume that.

 

[Lawpy]

Seems odd.

probably

in the meantime, i'll look into some others since I have too many null reads.

 

[dolphin106258]

Apologize for missing something obvious if I did because I haven’t read through everything today yet, but why barks?

So I gave some of the quotes below but I can still explain as well, I didn’t like the justification for voting Stagg initially and although Barks has responded to my posts I don’t like the answers if I’m being honest. And I think the core issue of just not having reads and sitting on low post/low quality vote like she did just bothers me. I’m certainly still trying to look at others. I think I’m gonna try and see why people are voting jboo. I haven’t seen much in her posts to make me think wolfy but I definitely could’ve missed something.

These were your feels yesterday evening-ish when asked but you felt none were strong enough to move off of stagg who was really just an inactivity/less quality posts vote.


Then today you choose to vote Miz based on some of your earlier feelings around the Doggo stuff i believe along with the resistance to Stagg, so the resistance is what pushed the sketchy over the edge to vote for them today as opposed to yesterday? But Stagg is no longer sketchy to you? Because he’s posting more or is the quality better? I’m not saying we shouldn’t try to encourage people to post more I’m just so confused with your logic and you sitting on the Stagg vote yesterday just did not make me feel good.

In that first post I said that I wasn’t ready to vote for ziggy because I usually find her sketchy and I was mostly sideyeing miz at that time because his posts about doggo didn’t make sense and then he said he got her confused with cubs. And then last night and today she started sketching me out even more. I feel better about Stagg today because the quality of his posts have been better than they were before

Also side note I still don’t feel satisfied with Barks response to staying on Stagg and that stuff from yesterday, so could go there again, but I’d rather look into other candidates today.

 

[Barkley13]

Lynch miz

I still think she’s sketchy and her answers from today haven’t made me feel better

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

So I gave some of the quotes below but I can still explain as well, I didn’t like the justification for voting Stagg initially and although Barks has responded to my posts I don’t like the answers if I’m being honest. And I think the core issue of just not having reads and sitting on low post/low quality vote like she did just bothers me. I’m certainly still trying to look at others. I think I’m gonna try and see why people are voting jboo. I haven’t seen much in her posts to make me think wolfy but I definitely could’ve missed something.

Yeah tbh I’m having trouble reading most people here, but I assume it’s because I have limited time and just can’t delve too deeply.

 

[WildZoo]

I feel that good/well thought out game design really shouldn't have useless roles. Sometimes ones just mostly for entertainment, sure, but not just roles for the sake of roles. But discerning good vs. bad is by far not the only possible use for a role seer so wouldn't assume that.

That's more what I meant
Not that the role was useless but that roles = good/bad is not the only utility for it and more often than not I've seen it in games where you have to put a little more thought into it than that (because otherwise you might as well just have an affiliation seer)

 

[WildZoo]

because i'm getting tired and jaded

Lawp it's only day 4

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

Uh don't even try. I spend 8+ hours in class. every.day. This isn't half of it.

I have 2 kids under 4 on top of being in class or studying 8 hours a day. The addition of the kids alone is more than enough reason to be too busy to be here very often.

But on top of that, I have a commissioning in a month. I have $2000 in uniforms I need to bring back and forth to the tailor. I have medical/dental appointments I have to be at leading up to the commissioning. I have military obligations I am required to fulfill. I have a move that I have to do completely on my own because I'm not changing duty stations, while finding a new place to live and figuring out how my wife is going to get the place ready to go while I'm 700 miles away for 5 weeks at ODS. I have furniture my kids need me to finish building because one of them is sleeping on a mattress on the floor right now. And I have a wife who just got a new nursing job, which means when she's gone I'm caring for the kids alone.

So, uh. Try again.

Oh, and like Paws, my 4 year old was vomitting all night two nights ago. They both have food allergies we can't figure out on top of everything else.

Edit: I apologize for the snappiness, but it drives me bonkers when people just assume what your life is like when they have no idea.

Edit2: Y'all don't have to keep hitting me with the sad faces, lol. It's just normal military/parenting life. The kiddos will be okay. We know at least one of the things that is causing it.