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someone tell me to sleep
But the write up...... 😴

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okay, but if I say some really loopy stuff tomorrow, I can't be held accountable
 
Act 1, Scene 11: The plan begins….

Giving a small amount of background to the following scenes. There is going to be intrigue, there is going to be betrayal, there is going to be DEATH, there is going to be attacks (yes, even the mod was attacked too ), and there will be tears shed. This will likely be the most heartbreaking, frustrating write up yet, so be prepared.

We begin our scene on the docks at the hotel in Uropt. The princess, the 2 remaining members of the Band of Bards, and Ris were all ready. Everyone was silent, clearly no one wanting to remember the conversation from earlier.

They boarded the boat, and the inner monologues of the players started playing out in their heads.

Ris’s inner monologue: “I can think for myself, I am not always a moral compass. Sure, I may take things more black and white, but I have taken oaths that they never had to. I have promised to be honorable. And look where that has gotten me. On a boat stealing in the slums of a scum filled town, trying to protect a princess who is constantly in danger. Sure that kid might have helped us. But he was in the wrong originally, he stole the princess originally. Even if it was under the orders of a King of another nation. But I have loyalties to my queen. How dare I think to even question any of her decisions. I am a lowly knight, I cannot understand the politics and thought process a queen must go through. I must just focus on my task, protect the princess, and that will get me through.”

Princess’s inner monologue: “What am I doing on this ship? I am a princess, if I was discovered being involved in thievery in this town of all places. But I must do it to help out Emp, we are here only because of him. Although, if Kailvan wouldn’t treat me like a little child with kid gloves, I would never be here in the first place. I would be in Lubertia, likely talking to my mom at this point. But instead I am here stealing. For a good cause. And it helps Kailvan’s friend. But who cares about Kailvan, he’s just a womanizing pig. Even if there is sometimes more to him. I wonder what Kailvan is up to right now…”

By the time both of them had finished their monologuing, they were at the location of the shopkeeper. They quietly snuck into the house and Krammet, the new leader of the Band of Bards whose weapon of choice was the scimitar, instructed them to search through the boxes quickly. They were only looking for about two minutes when footsteps started coming from down the stairs. Krammet muttered loudly “Hide.”

Everyone found a decent hiding spot. Except the princess, who was frozen in space, unable to move. The figure appeared from the shadows of the overhang of the stairs to reveal…. Physician Iji?

“Princess what are you doing in this place?”

“I ummmm. We ummmmm….”

Krammet came out of a darkened corner. “We need a medicine that he refuses to part with to save our friend without reviving the forest of evil and all the other petrified creatures within it.”

“I will take care of it and get it for you all. Just leave at once. Meet me at my abode, the princess knows where it is.”

“Physician Iji, why are you here?”

The shopkeepers gruff voice echoed down the stairs. “Iji, come back to bed, I still have something for you.”

“Go! I will deal with him.”

The man in the leather jacket chuckled and muttered under his breath, “I am sure you will.” Before leaving the house with the others.

They arrived at his residence and sat in his upstairs observatory, waiting for him to arrive.

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Back in Bigantria, the two bounty hunters from the previous night approached the castle for their audience with the queen.

“What do you think the queen wants with us?”

“I’d imagine it’s a bounty. Since you know, she called the two best bounty hunters in the land.”

“You’re hilarious, your brazen idiot. I meant who, not what. And you know that.”

“Well if you meant that, wouldn’t it make more sense to say that?” The man seemed quite entertained by his taunting of the woman, who is clearly not used to anything but kind words.

“You’re insufferable.” As she turned away from the man, a dark wizard caught her eye. “That bastard.”

She went into a full sprint towards the direction the dark wizard was headed. She rounded the corner, and immediately swung her axe his way. Ice shattered immediately, he had blocked the axe with a make shift ice shield.

She stared him down. “You attacked us, unprovoked. And now I will kill you and take whatever worthless possessions you have on you.”

“Ah dear, I have no possessions on me. Nothing belongs to me, I am but a humble messenger, a servant. You see…”

“Enough.” A booming voice came from above. “I have been expecting you and your friend. Come up the stairs, and let us talk, we have a lot to discuss.”

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Kailvan and his crew arrived at the cavern to find a wasteland. On the floor were hundreds of Lubertian soldiers, and hundreds of dark wizards. Each separate room was littered with more and more horrors. At the end of the cavern, the opening to Lubertia was found, which would lead them to worse horrors.

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“My queen, I would just like to provide a status report of our efforts in Lub….”

“Don’t you see we have company? There is a more important matter that needs dealt with. I have heard rumors of those two nuissances I have talked about in Uropt. End them. I will deal with my dimwit daughter and her “friend”.

“It shall be done your grace.”

“And when you are done, I will meet you in Lubertia. Don’t keep me waiting.”

The woman headed off. “Now where were we. Ah yes, prices. Well…”

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Physician Iji could be heard climbing the stairs. The group looked happily as he rounded the corner. “I have the medicine you need for your friend.” He handed it over to Krammet, who immediately passed it off to the only other remaining member of the Band of Bards. “You get this to Emp at once, meet me back in Bilundeam afterwards.”

“You’re not coming boss?”

“No, my services are needed elsewhere.” He looked at the princess, showing his intentions of helping her.

“Okay boss….. I will not let you down.”

“I know you won’t.” He placed his hand on the shoulder of the lad. “You have always been my favorite, I have complete faith in you.”

The Band of Bards member exited the building. Phyisician Iji turned to the remaining group. “So princess, you want to return to Bigantria to talk some sense with your mother, yes?”

“Yes, I need to help her, something is not right in her head, and I know I can help her…”

“Well, you are going to have to get there unnoticed. Luckily, there is a path straight from here to the temple. Follow me.”

Iji pressed a button, and the telescope folded in on itself, and opened a hole in the floor, leading to a ladder. Physician Iji led the way down the stairs and to an area far below the city.

“This is a tram system that leads straight into the castle. It will allow you to go in unnoticed, and talk to the queen without outside influences.” He smiled. “But there is one small caveat….. The tram system is controlled by… giant bugs.”

All of a sudden, a giant cockroach looking bug, carrying a buggy below it, rushed past on the wall above them. It stopped in front of them, allowing them to jump aboard. First, the princess jumped aboard. Then, Ris followed suit. As Krammet was about to board, he felt something pierce his spine. A sword, shining with a bright cyan aura around it. He fell to the floor.

Immediately, Iji pushed a lever, and the cockroach like being was off. The woman looked at the physician sword in hand. “Now, that was a poor move. He severed the turtle like head from Iji’s body, ending him once and for all.

“I wish the queen would eventually put me on a worthwhile task.” She took her sword and stabbed backwards with it, to stab a crawling Krammet in the face. “Always disappointed in me, and never approves of my fine work. I guess I must simply do better.”

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The princess and Ris were traveling in the buggy, with no issues, other than minds lost in terrible thoughts and heavy hearts. They arrived without a word at the basement entrance to the castle. They got out and walked into an entrance hall outside of the tram area. They took about 20 steps in, but then two gates shot up from the floors, one behind them and one in front of them.

“Princess I am so sor….”

He couldn’t finish as he and the princess were knocked unconscious by something overhead,

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When the princess awakened, she was before the queen.

“My sweet daughter, what has happened to you? You have given me such a fright by being gone. I swear I shall deal with those criminals that took you.”

“Mother… I have heard awful rumors regarding an invasion of Lubertia done by your hands.”

“Oh sweety, no. You don’t know the information that I have heard. You see, Lubertia had been planning to take over our nation for the longest time. Those animals final had amassed a plan for an attack on Bigantria, so I was forced to do a preemptive strike. I am sorry you thought it was like that.”

“I do not believe you mother.”

The sweetness in her mother’s voice drained away. “Well, it doesn’t really matter what you believe, as soon you will be no more.

Someone behind her said some words in a foreign language. All of a sudden, her mind was lost into sleep.

“Good, now, get this worthless, impersonation of a daughter out of my sight. Take her gellunes, provide me with their power, and the plan shall begin. Starting with that terrible Lubertian King. Once he falls…. It shall be a domino effect.

“As you wish, my highness.”

Dead is Ziggy, Physician Iji, Villager, who could heal one person each night
Dead is Barkley, Krammet, Initially minor antagonist whose affiliation changed to villager by perspective from write ups, who could steal items from one person each night.

It is day 6. Deadline is set for 11 pm est. There are 27 people eligible to vote.

Bigantria:

1. @capri1722
2. @Jahboi
3. @StayingPositive2017
5. @Stagg737

Urobt
1. @allieh8607
3. @ThoracicGuy (previously known as emlady)
5. @SARdoghandler
6. @PippyPony

Bilundeam
2. @Skimble
4. @Dinashadow
5. @johnnaboo
6. @genny
7. @Melchizedek
8. @WildZoo

Lubertia
1. @Animal Midwife
2. @CoffeeQuestionMark
4. @dolphin106258

Unknown locations:
1. @PrincessButterCup
2. @Ms Procrastinator
3. @StartingoverVet
4. @Lawper
5. @grebes4lyfe
7. @Coopah
8. @kcoughli
9. @cubsrule4e
10. @muttmanager
11. @Matthew9Thirtyfive
12. @Trilt
13. @mizchiefmanaged

DEAD:
1. Doggo Lab - Jade (Villager)
3. Mypetmoose – Tapu (Villager)
4. Ziggy - Phyisician Iji (Villager)
5. Barkley, Krammet (Villager)
 
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Wait did mizzy move to unknown location? 😕

Seems like minor antagonist is a temporary thing from a story perspective? Like they have had a minor dispute with the protagonists but are considered village as the story progresses?
 
Also, side note, since we can't really confirm attacks and there are multiples every night, can I disregard someone saying they were attacked in my reads?

Because it's gonna be really annoying if a wolf just decided to be like "Yeah I was attacked too!" and we don't lynch them because of that.
 
I am too tired and will mess it up if I try and do role pms right now, they will be done first thing in the morning, either when me or Karabiner wake up. See you all in the am.
 
Also, side note, since we can't really confirm attacks and there are multiples every night, can I disregard someone saying they were attacked in my reads?

Because it's gonna be really annoying if a wolf just decided to be like "Yeah I was attacked too!" and we don't lynch them because of that.

Personally i’m not paying much attention to claims of being attacked.
 
Seems like minor antagonist is a temporary thing from a story perspective? Like they have had a minor dispute with the protagonists but are considered village as the story progresses?
Yes thank you for restating what is now obvious 😛
 
@capri1722 to answer your question...I have something in my notes about one of your posts making me uncomfortable, but not which post that was referring to lol

I think the other part of it is that your general play/activity reminds me more of your wolf play than your village play. More effort/appearance of effort than I expect when you're villaging while busy.

Plus there is some process of elimination involved.
 
I'm rereading about half the thread and will be updating my story summaries (hopefully) and reads, but here's where my wolfy to neutral leaning wolfy list is at the moment (I hate the new limited choice in colors btw)
SAR (duh)
mutts
emlady/TG
capri
grebes

allie
PBC
MsP
 
Semi caught up. Started with Thursday, realized reading twenty pages of posts would take forever, jumped to today. I'll catch up more thoroughly tomorrow when I have more brain power.

Dude, this is getting too personal. Probably best to back off.

But ww is serious business.

This post seemed out of place, but I think people reacted in stride at the time so I may just be over reading. Slight feels.

Wait

Is that what this SAR lynch is based on?

This made me pause. Dubz was active during most of this conversation, and then she chimes in with this as if wasn't actually following it. I know she was killed/rezzed so I'm not going to linger too much on this. I agree that there's no point in convert hunting right now.

From my skim of today, my interest was most caught by Stagg and M#:

And what about me is wolfy to you? If I recall you haven't said anything about me being sketchy up to this point, so why now all of a sudden?

In all seriousness, can anyone give me any good reason why they are lynching me other than sheeping Coffee? Seriously.
:bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang: Not even going to start this argument again because it's a stupid one.

That's valid, and I would probably think the same thing if I were in your place. I'm eager to save my own neck because I KNOW I'M A VILLAGER AND THE OTHER LYNCH CANDIDATE IS AN OUTED WOLF. Why is this self-prez thing so hard for people to understand?

No, most of my *wolf* reads are because those are the people I've found wolfy. And I think you mean same 3 over and over. I have plenty of people who I believe are solidly in the village pile and others I need to look into. After tonight I'm going to be looking into Genny, because that was some strange flip-flopping at lynch close.

I've provided plenty of reads and have gone back and continue to evaluate. Maybe it doesn't seem that way since I've had to spend half the game defending myself from stupid lynches because of self-pres and didn't automatically assume a single word in a role defined affiliation.

@PippyPony , @Lawper , @Dinashadow @Matthew9Thirtyfive , @mizchiefmanaged , @genny

Why did you vote for me today. Actual reasons other than "because coffee seemed sure of it".

So you're lynching me based on feelz and tinfoil. Who do you actually think is wolfy? If not me, who would you vote for?

@ziggyandjazzy if not me, then who would you lynch?

These are just SOME of Stagg's "why are you lynching me", "don't lynch me", "who would you lynch if you weren't lynching me" posts from the last couple days. It was a close lynch today, but he's making a lot of noise without contributing hugely to other conversations, and pressuring people for their reads without offering his own. The sheer volume of "why" posts is what's bothering me. Side eye here.

Also M#:

I didn't want to vote for SAR or c/z because I wanted to see how this shook out, and it seemed pointless to throw a vote on someone who wasn't going to win anyway.

Chose not to vote because it would be "pointless." K.

Agree. Seems like it would be a waste.

In response to Coffee wanting to wait to lynch SAR again.

Also what do you think of the idea that it was probably single lynch avoidance and that a lynch today could work? I know SARS implied it was more than just single avoidance, but that could be a bluff.

Of course a wolf is going to try that bluff. In what world would they not?

Well, my tin foil is telling me that SAR is trying to get us to not lynch again because it was a single lynch avoidance. But that's probably not true.

"Could be a bluff", "probably not true" . . . hedging feels

It might be because I haven’t thoroughly read the write up, but not really.

#lynch SAR# because I’m not convinced it wouldn’t work.

Ah, so he's committing to the theory now.

So did I lol. Now my tinfoil is on that jboo is a wolf and is trying to get us to waste a cycle on SAR.

He says this, even though he himself has gone back and forth on whether it's a worthwhile lynch. Seems a bit weird, though jboo might have been pushing more strongly - will have to go back and ISO them.

I'm going to
unlynch SAR
lynch stagg


Sorry my dude. Coffee seems pretty sure, and I feel like either my tinfoil theory will be totally debunked or it'll be plausible.

Why put so much trust in Coffee?

You did a 180 that quickly?

I don't feel in good company if lawper and m# are on this lynch
edit: what is your tin foil

Has to do with coffee, but it's super crazy so I'd rather not share until it's definitely wrong after the lynch. I fly by the seat of my pants, sister.

lol I mean if y'all are correct that SAR is the alpha, then it is a waste of a lynch and a cycle. I'm not 100% convinced that just because she avoided the lynch last night that she's the alpha, but I was just thinking that even if she's NOT alpha, we already know she's a wolf so it's not like she's going anywhere.

So I'm willing to follow you two since I'm pretty convinced about your village status.

I don't like this reasoning. Something didn't die after the first try, you try again. If twice doesn't work you reconsider. Historically 1x lynch avoidances are common enough that it makes sense to try again unless there are really good reasons not to. Just sitting on a wolf because she's not going anywhere . . . ?

It's weird, but M#'s back and forth seems too obnoxious for a wolf. If he was a wolf he'd know SAR wasn't in trouble today and should have had no qualms about jumping on her lynch, right? The weird commitment issues and following coffee actually make me think village. Or he thought hesitation would read more village because why waste a day killing an un-killable wolf when you can look for others? I don't know. It's 4 am. I'll read more later.
 
I got a "dubz commented on . . . " alert after midnight here, and I was wondering what you were doing up 😛
Workin'

This made me pause. Dubz was active during most of this conversation, and then she chimes in with this as if wasn't actually following it. I know she was killed/rezzed so I'm not going to linger too much on this. I agree that there's no point in convert hunting right now.
Yeah because the link between the "dark chasm" that mel was in and Dark Shuffle was brought up partway into the conversation. Or it was originally said earlier when the info was first out, but that was at like midnight and I had forgotten about that part of the argument. I was still, at that point, trying to figure out whether it was all conjecture or actually based on something solid.

Semi caught up. Started with Thursday, realized reading twenty pages of posts would take forever, jumped to today. I'll catch up more thoroughly tomorrow when I have more brain power.



But ww is serious business.

This post seemed out of place, but I think people reacted in stride at the time so I may just be over reading. Slight feels.



This made me pause. Dubz was active during most of this conversation, and then she chimes in with this as if wasn't actually following it. I know she was killed/rezzed so I'm not going to linger too much on this. I agree that there's no point in convert hunting right now.

From my skim of today, my interest was most caught by Stagg and M#:












These are just SOME of Stagg's "why are you lynching me", "don't lynch me", "who would you lynch if you weren't lynching me" posts from the last couple days. It was a close lynch today, but he's making a lot of noise without contributing hugely to other conversations, and pressuring people for their reads without offering his own. The sheer volume of "why" posts is what's bothering me. Side eye here.

Also M#:



Chose not to vote because it would be "pointless." K.



In response to Coffee wanting to wait to lynch SAR again.



Of course a wolf is going to try that bluff. In what world would they not?



"Could be a bluff", "probably not true" . . . hedging feels



Ah, so he's committing to the theory now.



He says this, even though he himself has gone back and forth on whether it's a worthwhile lynch. Seems a bit weird, though jboo might have been pushing more strongly - will have to go back and ISO them.



Why put so much trust in Coffee?





I don't like this reasoning. Something didn't die after the first try, you try again. If twice doesn't work you reconsider. Historically 1x lynch avoidances are common enough that it makes sense to try again unless there are really good reasons not to. Just sitting on a wolf because she's not going anywhere . . . ?

It's weird, but M#'s back and forth seems too obnoxious for a wolf. If he was a wolf he'd know SAR wasn't in trouble today and should have had no qualms about jumping on her lynch, right? The weird commitment issues and following coffee actually make me think village. Or he thought hesitation would read more village because why waste a day killing an un-killable wolf when you can look for others? I don't know. It's 4 am. I'll read more later.
You planting hedges here or what
 
Workin'


Yeah because the link between the "dark chasm" that mel was in and Dark Shuffle was brought up partway into the conversation. Or it was originally said earlier when the info was first out, but that was at like midnight and I had forgotten about that part of the argument. I was still, at that point, trying to figure out whether it was all conjecture or actually based on something solid.


You planting hedges here or what

Working on my green thumb
 
PSA: After rereading writeups, I don't think the dark wizard and black mage designations actually are distinct. Not sure if that's important but they are used interchangeably.

"At the Village of Vela, we saw numerous dark wizards. They looked like golems, controlled by some powerful magic. On top of that, they were being created under Bigantria's supervision. I don't know how they're related to Keke, but if Mother is planning to use them for war..."

"We won't let that happen. Even if she were to command an army of black mages, she won't make a move as long as we have our airship fleet. Don't worry. Everything will be fine."
 
PSA: After rereading writeups, I don't think the dark wizard and black mage designations actually are distinct. Not sure if that's important but they are used interchangeably.
My read is that SAR is a kinda OP version of the dark wizard, hence the slightly different name.
 
I’m pretty sure Capri is royal based on posting style. I think lynching her would be a waste of time right now.

I’m curious about the stagg lynch from yesterday so I’ll go there.

###lynch stagg###
 
Also I’m on mobile (app) so can’t tag, but have we heard ANYTHING from jahboi? Is he who we ended up blocking? Id like to hear really anything from him. If someone could quote and tag I’d appreciate.
 
Lynch animal midwife

I have been reading through various people’s post who are eligible to be lynched...and will continue, and AM stands out. These things stand out to me (others will know if this is just her play style or not).

1) I am not the only one who has said something is off with AM. Previously just thought she was more aggressive than I remembered, but the key point is every little shade thrown her way she immediately responds to. Classic defensive behavior.

2) she had a long weird ongoing convo with dolphin and at one point asks “are you still suspicious of me”. That is odd. Why would you care if they aren’t voting you unless you are a wolf worried about getting lynched.

3) at least twice she attacked “convert hunting”, as if she were some convert hunting cop. In a game with evolving allegiances, it is at least possible that this is kind of like a recruitment game, which would mean anyone could become a wolf, so original allegiance wouldn’t matter. Just spit-balling here, but why jump on any instance of questioning people. And players who have been revived are not converts, they are as likely wolves as not. I don’t get her insistence not to do that.

4) another interaction with dolphin where she criticized her for voting for someone she reveried. Really? A read on day 1 should stick later in the game? That was weird to me,

5) not sure what to make if her strange comments on Mel. She was ultimately right that he was a bad choice, but the reasoning was so off. I have her village cred on that originally, but now I wonder. This one really doesn’t add up with the others TBH, but it always struck me as not quite right.

6) she also was touchy about the wanting to Lynch untouchables. But..that is really wolfy. I fact, now it makes me think this is just her style.

Hmmm. Typing all this out makes me doubt my conviction here. I will just leave the wall of text in case anyone else has something else to add...but...

Unlynch AM..

Sorry about that mods.
 
Lynch animal midwife

I have been reading through various people’s post who are eligible to be lynched...and will continue, and AM stands out. These things stand out to me (others will know if this is just her play style or not).

1) I am not the only one who has said something is off with AM. Previously just thought she was more aggressive than I remembered, but the key point is every little shade thrown her way she immediately responds to. Classic defensive behavior.

2) she had a long weird ongoing convo with dolphin and at one point asks “are you still suspicious of me”. That is odd. Why would you care if they aren’t voting you unless you are a wolf worried about getting lynched.

3) at least twice she attacked “convert hunting”, as if she were some convert hunting cop. In a game with evolving allegiances, it is at least possible that this is kind of like a recruitment game, which would mean anyone could become a wolf, so original allegiance wouldn’t matter. Just spit-balling here, but why jump on any instance of questioning people. And players who have been revived are not converts, they are as likely wolves as not. I don’t get her insistence not to do that.

4) another interaction with dolphin where she criticized her for voting for someone she reveried. Really? A read on day 1 should stick later in the game? That was weird to me,

5) not sure what to make if her strange comments on Mel. She was ultimately right that he was a bad choice, but the reasoning was so off. I have her village cred on that originally, but now I wonder. This one really doesn’t add up with the others TBH, but it always struck me as not quite right.

6) she also was touchy about the wanting to Lynch untouchables. But..that is really wolfy. I fact, now it makes me think this is just her style.

Hmmm. Typing all this out makes me doubt my conviction here. I will just leave the wall of text in case anyone else has something else to add...but...

Unlynch AM..

Sorry about that mods.
Where's your real post?
 
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