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wolves hate onion soup.
why'd you have to say this, now Zenge is gonna use this against me every time I decline french onion soup smh

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why'd you have to say this, now Zenge is gonna use this against me every time I decline french onion soup smh
All ****posting is allowed in the game thread, including all soup discussions
 
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Not even 2 full weeks into my internship and I have a foster 😂
 

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~Looking for recommendations~

My summer break is (intentionally) pretty light. I'm only doing a 1 week leadership program + 1 month internship, so I have a good bit of time to focus on whatever I want. I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations to free courses/resources for vet students to use. I know it's free for students to get Fear Free certified, so I am going to do that. Really just looking for anything interesting, doesn't need to result in a certificate.
 
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~Looking for recommendations~

My summer break is (intentionally) pretty light. I'm only doing a 1 week leadership program + 1 month internship, so I have a good bit of time to focus on whatever I want. I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations to free courses/resources for vet students to use. I know it's free for students to get Fear Free certified, so I am going to do that. Really just looking for anything interesting, doesn't need to result in a certificate.

Fear free now has modules for avian and equine also!

VIN also has a lot of cool presentations and student rounds sessions :)

And for sure make time for yourself and non vet med things!
 
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I'm seeing human orthopedics for a thumb injury I've had for a while, and I manged to get an appointment the same week they called! It seems a little silly going to a specialist for something so small, but it's on my right hand and I'm right handed. It hasn't been hurting recently but it's been braced for like 2 months. I can tell it's still there though. I'm pretty sure it's a problem with the joint itself too. Hoping for just PT or for them to tell me it just need more immobile time.

I've also determined that powder-free nitrile gives me terrible contact dermatitis. It's happened twice now! It's been like 2 weeks since I stopped wearing nitrile and it's still not all the way clear. Very excited to explain that going forward.
 
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Sometimes I wonder what happen to my super critical pts that I never see again. Like did they die? Did they go to another gp? Most the time I find out if they go to specialty/er. Ex I have a suspect myasthenia Gravis pt that really needs tested for tx but I haven't seem them in over a mo. Last time they had a recheck they didn't show the day after they scheduled it in clinic in person.
I wish people knew/recognized how much we do care. I don't spend alot of time thinking of these guys but definitely hope those pt are doing OK and not suffering.
Random thoughts for the day because the 1lb pup I sent to er last night ended up getting a plasma transfusion. I felt so relieved by my call telling the o your pet needs to go to er 3 hrs away or it might die. It literally might have died otherwise also cause I don't have ivc capabilities for things that small.
 
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Sometimes I wonder what happen to my super critical pts that I never see again. Like did they die? Did they go to another gp? Most the time I find out if they go to specialty/er. Ex I have a suspect myasthenia Gravis pt that really needs tested for tx but I haven't seem them in over a mo. Last time they had a recheck they didn't show the day after they scheduled it in clinic in person.
I wish people knew/recognized how much we do care. I don't spend alot of time thinking of these guys but definitely hope those pt are doing OK and not suffering.
Random thoughts for the day because the 1lb pup I sent to er last night ended up getting a plasma transfusion. I felt so relieved by my call telling the o your pet needs to go to er 3 hrs away or it might die. It literally might have died otherwise also cause I don't have ivc capabilities for things that small.
This is a huge thing that still bugs me working ER. Especially the cases I see where I have that niggle that something really bad is going on, but I don't find it/owner won't hospitalize/etc.

They just leave and I never get feedback or closure. Did they go home and die? Did the rDVM find a string foreign body two days later? Etc etc.

Even if they come back to the ER, unless I go out of my way to look for their follow up or happen to be working still, I rarely see it. I def miss the continuity of care I had in GP.
 
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This is a huge thing that still bugs me working ER. Especially the cases I see where I have that niggle that something really bad is going on, but I don't find it/owner won't hospitalize/etc.

They just leave and I never get feedback or closure. Did they go home and die? Did the rDVM find a string foreign body two days later? Etc etc.

Even if they come back to the ER, unless I go out of my way to look for their follow up or happen to be working still, I rarely see it. I def miss the continuity of care I had in GP.
Occasionally for these sorts of cases, I'll call the primary care vet to see if there was ever any follow up.
 
Occasionally for these sorts of cases, I'll call the primary care vet to see if there was ever any follow up.
I do this every once in a while, but working mostly swing and overnights... a lot of time when I have time is not when other doctors are actually working, haha.
 
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I do this every once in a while, but working mostly swing and overnights... a lot of time when I have time is not when other doctors are actually working, haha.
Yeah, fair point! I've only done it for specific situations where I "knew" what was up, but couldn't prove it at the time.
 
Went to dinner with the boss to celebrate my 1 year working at the clinic. He wants me to pick one philanthropic thing to pursue and 1 skill to acquire (vet med related of course) and he wants to talk about it more next week....IDK what I want to learn and do...For reference we are 3 hours away from any specialty services and in a town of ~7.5k people and do mixed medicine. Philanthropic can be as big as an international service trip or as small as a free vaccine clinic. I'm thinking maybe endoscopy for what I want to learn, but it'd also be really easy for me to get my acupuncture certificate, but idk how popular that would be. Suggestions on what you would want to pursue if given the opportunity?
 
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Suggestions on what you would want to pursue if given the opportunity?
I'm doing the endoscopy lab and a teaching seminar at VECCS. I feel like endoscopy is a great option for you because the cost is similar to surgery, but the client saves all the money on hospitalization for after the procedure!
 
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I think endoscopy would be a good skill for a more rural practitioner to have if your boss is willing to pay for the equipment. You can use it for quite a few things with the right parts and skills…obviously foreign body retrieval and stuff but also gi biopsies, airway washes, nasal workups, repro stuff. And I think they’re fairly easy to get the hang of.

I’m from/in a rural area too (grew up in town of 6k, current work is 12k, closest referral is 2h away), and there are a couple GPs that do some more advanced ortho procedures…like plating of fractures and lateral sutures. The other regional GPs will send ortho cases to them if referral to the board certified surgeons 2-3 hours away isn’t an option. But there are a lot fewer tripods around because they can at least attempt repair. So in a rural setting I’d maybe recommend some ortho training if you like surgery?

I think you’d probably be able to get clients for acupuncture too but that probably wouldn’t have as big of profit margins for your clinic. But would have less startup cost regarding equipment for your boss.

TLDR; as someone in a rural area I’d really like it if I had easier access to someone with endoscopy/surgery skills but acupuncture is cool too.
 
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Went to dinner with the boss to celebrate my 1 year working at the clinic. He wants me to pick one philanthropic thing to pursue and 1 skill to acquire (vet med related of course) and he wants to talk about it more next week....IDK what I want to learn and do...For reference we are 3 hours away from any specialty services and in a town of ~7.5k people and do mixed medicine. Philanthropic can be as big as an international service trip or as small as a free vaccine clinic. I'm thinking maybe endoscopy for what I want to learn, but it'd also be really easy for me to get my acupuncture certificate, but idk how popular that would be. Suggestions on what you would want to pursue if given the opportunity?
Ultrasound... love the fastvet coursework online, and their in-person training is good, too. Getting better at basic thoracic/cardiac ultrasound over the last year or two makes a difference literally every day I work. (I don't know how anyone practices without an ultrasound at hand anymore, haha). Especially in a situation where you're not going to have a cardiologist/oncologist/whatever around, I think it's such a helpful skill and it's also super rewarding because you kind of just get better and better the more you do it. I worked at a GP that had a scope and while it was super fun, it was definitely less day-to-day functional.
 
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Went to dinner with the boss to celebrate my 1 year working at the clinic. He wants me to pick one philanthropic thing to pursue and 1 skill to acquire (vet med related of course) and he wants to talk about it more next week....IDK what I want to learn and do...For reference we are 3 hours away from any specialty services and in a town of ~7.5k people and do mixed medicine. Philanthropic can be as big as an international service trip or as small as a free vaccine clinic. I'm thinking maybe endoscopy for what I want to learn, but it'd also be really easy for me to get my acupuncture certificate, but idk how popular that would be. Suggestions on what you would want to pursue if given the opportunity?
Do you have ultrasound? Just took a global FAST CE that was great
 
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Do you have ultrasound? Just took a global FAST CE that was great
I do have US. I actually use it quite frequently. It is something that I like but at the level of AFAST/TFAST quality and not necessarily like full blown abd us level if that makes sense. I could definately get more training on it though to enhance my skills/knowledge. I've been very torn between US courses and endoscopy, but could be fun either way I think. We've been wanting to get a scope but would need 2 different sizes since eq and sa can't exactly share.
 
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I think endoscopy would be a good skill for a more rural practitioner to have if your boss is willing to pay for the equipment. You can use it for quite a few things with the right parts and skills…obviously foreign body retrieval and stuff but also gi biopsies, airway washes, nasal workups, repro stuff. And I think they’re fairly easy to get the hang of.

I’m from/in a rural area too (grew up in town of 6k, current work is 12k, closest referral is 2h away), and there are a couple GPs that do some more advanced ortho procedures…like plating of fractures and lateral sutures. The other regional GPs will send ortho cases to them if referral to the board certified surgeons 2-3 hours away isn’t an option. But there are a lot fewer tripods around because they can at least attempt repair. So in a rural setting I’d maybe recommend some ortho training if you like surgery?

I think you’d probably be able to get clients for acupuncture too but that probably wouldn’t have as big of profit margins for your clinic. But would have less startup cost regarding equipment for your boss.

TLDR; as someone in a rural area I’d really like it if I had easier access to someone with endoscopy/surgery skills but acupuncture is cool too.
yeah boss does pins, extracapsular ACL repairs, and FHOs. He's looking to go to CE for plating to add that to the mix since referral is getting out of reach for many people in our area and also because it's so far away. I'm slowly learning those special surgeries because I think it's important I know how to do them. However, I have learned I really don't like ortho sx that much. I agree acupuncture I just don't feel I offer all that much (also because no one near by does it). so yeah pry either scope or more us training. We have been debating getting a scope so definately would be an option I think
 
I am worried I'm going to become a corporate sell-out. Already I made so much money over the weekend running vaccine clinics, and now is my first orientation day and I'm wow'd by all of the discount programs they offer.
 
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I don't play the lotto all that frequently but bff is getting married in AZ and i forsee alot of travelling to AZ in my future. Told the universe I need a travel to AZ fund...maybe the universe will listen? doubtful...:laugh:
 
Baby Bats turned 1 on Saturday. He has learned this interesting habit of head butting others to say high. Person, dog, doesn't matter. Dives headfirst into their personal space.

And who did he learn this odd habit from? Our Pittie, Grunty. 🤣
 
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I don't play the lotto all that frequently but bff is getting married in AZ and i forsee alot of travelling to AZ in my future. Told the universe I need a travel to AZ fund...maybe the universe will listen? doubtful...:laugh:
I've been learning about "travel hacking" using sign up bonuses from credit cards.
 
I applied for a job today that sounds great content-wise and is something I’m interested in, but the pay is gross. So gross. Like 30% less a year gross, but it’s not small animal corporate medicine, so yay? It’s also a hybrid job so I can work from home most days. Kind of hoping that I can negotiate a four day workweek so I can still practice on the side and have a second income. That would be most preferable. We’ll see. I might wake up tomorrow and wonder what the hell I was thinking.
 
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The weirdest thing just happened with SDN..I usually use my mobile browser which is just safari and it keeps me logged in. Anyways, I pull it up and it is someone else's profile picture in the corner with their notifications??? lol

I was unable to click on "account info" or open the notifications because it said "security error" and then prompted me to put in my info and then it correctly pulled up my account. I also couldn't see the username.

The profile pic was a black cat laying down on a pink blanket. Very weird
 
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Boss trusting me with the big monies this week at convention. Sent me off with the clinic card😬 do the sales people smell me yet?😂
Not going to AVMA but willing to meet up tomorrow if you're good with a 13 month old 🤣
 
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Not really a rant, open to suggestions, more so I guess just need to put this out to people who might understand. We hired a new grad which honestly was fine and dandy the first few months...perhaps it was the rose colored glasses of a new grad, IDK. Point being the last 2-3 months it has progressively gotten worse. TBH the person had a rough start with some pretty just rough breaks in cases, but we tried to be very supportive and help them out, so I think mental burn out and imposter syndrome may be playing a part. They also have a bleeding heart to the point like they sometimes won't charge for services rendered and we have had a few pointed discussions at this point regarding that. I get it, we want to save them all but ultimately it's not our responsibility if the o cannot come up with funds to do certain things. Yes it sucks when the 3mo old parvo pup o don't have money and it likely means the pup will die without serious medical intervention, but we have to pay ourselves, staff, etc. Anyway a few months ago they started really slacking on their SOAPs, to the point where it was causing major issues like techs couldn't even answer simple questions from clients on call back because notes just weren't being done. Well they got a performance review which was fine (growth is bristly and from what I could gather was recieved with lukewarm appeal). Notes are better now. However idk if they have something medical going on mentally or physically, but everyone at the clinic is feeling as though they have to walk on egg shells around them, not to say the wrong thing or to say/ask something. Really minor things are setting them off. Too many questions and they are feeling overwhelmed. Deciding over a 7 vs 10 day course of abx can stress them out. Things like that. They're also starting to not really ask for help when they should and believe me my boss is like the most helpful person in the world (sometimes a little overly). Time management and I hesitate to call it incompetence, but lack of medical experience is really starting to affect them and their interactions with some clients. They struggle to keep up when things are chaotic, however, they also just leave when we have a slow time even if it's only like a 30 minute gap. We want to try and help them but are really starting to struggle as individuals and as a whole clinic on how to help them. They are very compassionate and they have tons of goals but we are having to hold them back from some of those goals because they are missing some foundational information...The last thing I want them to feel is that it's us against them, but it's starting to feel like it :/ I'm also starting to feel in an akward position because my support staff is becoming increasingly irritable with the other doc and I'm definately becoming the favorite doc because I'm easy going and efficient. Boss has had some personal things come up so we plan once we are both back in full swing to start doing weekly rounds topic and case. I'm just not sure how I/we can be more supportive and "mentor" them to success. As a whole everyone likes them as a person, but we are all starting to struggle working with them. Just feeling hohum about it all. I'm leaving for vacation and the clinic may literally burn down and my staff may quit on me is how it feels but because of nothing to do with me or really much of management TBH. I was gone for 3 days the other week and the staff was so relieved when I came back.

TLDR: I miss basically working solo sometimes, things were smooth.
 
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Someone may have accidentally reported an HPAI outbreak. Thankfully not in hospital, but it's still the thing that sticks out about today.
 
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Like…reported one when there wasn’t one or…?

I’M NOSY OKAY
Almost 10 ducks that went from being okay to down ducks within a few hours. One was apparently seizing.

I also don't know if they were full pets/farm/live on a pond farm. But lots of birds down all at once isn't great.
 
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You know when you're having that "out of body experience" and you see the trainwreck coming ever so slowly and you know it's going to happen and there's absolutely nothing you can do to stop it but slowly watch as everything falls apart? yeah....
 
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Very emotional day. For those of you that don't know my so is law enforcement so naturally I know many of the first responders in town well and many bring their personal pets to me.

Well the fire house has a few cats one of which got sick and was brought to me. She did a few stints in the hospital and ultimately needed more advanced diagnostics and tx than I could provide to potentially get her well. FD spent big $ on this cat and she was so sweet. Well I released her home a little over a week ago with a hope and a prayer.

Today I sent her to kitty heaven at the fire house surrounded by almost every firefighter and emt on the force. Im not sure there was a dry eye in the room. Then we put her in a little basket and they gave her a proper send off driving her to the clinic in a firetruck followed by the other firetrucks and ambulances. She was truly one of them.

Then a fellow LEO brought me a weakly kitten who did well all day only to crash the last 15 minutes before the o was to come get her after work.

Despite the emotional roller coaster I ended my day watching my boss perform one of his many secret talents...auctioneering. 😂 (he was actually quite good)
 
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I was skimming javma. There are 7-8 planned new schools (depends how you classify USU) and 4 more idea stage vet schools. I am all for each state that does not have a vet school or reciprocity agreement to get their own school, but I feel the the number of new schools is excessive at this point and not good for our profession. Especially all the privates that want to keep opening.
1) Where are they going to find all these specialists to help teach?
2) while yes all schools that are accredited and provide a base education, there are definitely differences in vth vs distributive taught students and some of the standards. Not saying you cannot be a good/bad vet from either institution as i know good and bad vets from both, but from my interactions with students I often feel distributive students lack in certain aspects like in regard to what else is out there that can be done for a p because they're not necessarily exposed to a vth like facility and some of the golden rules like basically never give fluids to a heartfailure p* (yes there are exceptions like concurrent ckd but few)
3) I forsee all these new schools causing 1 of 3 if not all of the following things. An ever rising educational cost to students where we end up with an avg of 500k in student loans on par with our MD friends vs closer to the 200k range on the same current salary, oversaturation of the market (see pharmacists), and eventually an overall decrease in salaries.

Idk, just reading all the new planned schools kind of made me sad also because at the end of the day sure it will alleviate some of the inner city pressures, but ultimately solving issues like rural/food shortage it isn't going to do anything for anyone and I have a hard time seeing all of these new schools as a positive. Especially any of the private ones. Thanks for coming to my ramblings. Feel free to ramble your thoughts and perspectives!
 
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I was skimming javma. There are 7-8 planned new schools (depends how you classify USU) and 4 more idea stage vet schools. I am all for each state that does not have a vet school or reciprocity agreement to get their own school, but I feel the the number of new schools is excessive at this point and not good for our profession. Especially all the privates that want to keep opening.
1) Where are they going to find all these specialists to help teach?
2) while yes all schools that are accredited and provide a base education, there are definitely differences in vth vs distributive taught students and some of the standards. Not saying you cannot be a good/bad vet from either institution as i know good and bad vets from both, but from my interactions with students I often feel distributive students lack in certain aspects like in regard to what else is out there that can be done for a p because they're not necessarily exposed to a vth like facility and some of the golden rules like basically never give fluids to a heartfailure p* (yes there are exceptions like concurrent ckd but few)
3) I forsee all these new schools causing 1 of 3 if not all of the following things. An ever rising educational cost to students where we end up with an avg of 500k in student loans on par with our MD friends vs closer to the 200k range on the same current salary, oversaturation of the market (see pharmacists), and eventually an overall decrease in salaries.

Idk, just reading all the new planned schools kind of made me sad also because at the end of the day sure it will alleviate some of the inner city pressures, but ultimately solving issues like rural/food shortage it isn't going to do anything for anyone and I have a hard time seeing all of these new schools as a positive. Especially any of the private ones. Thanks for coming to my ramblings. Feel free to ramble your thoughts and perspectives!
There's a discussion currently happening in VIN about this. I don't think many of us actually in the industry think this is a good thing. Depending on how things go in the next 3-4 months, I'm debating on contacting my AVMA rep about how to get involved in the COE.

There's also a VIN discussion about whether distributive models affect the NAVLE score distribution; I feel that is weak argument since there's been a national drop in scores.

And then the whole situation of specialists teaching. I mean, when you make in academia what a GP makes out in practice, I would also pause on going into academia as well.

I also have a ton of feels about the school situation.
 
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I have a lot of big feels about the school thing, as someone who is at one of the new programs. To try to not get too crazy, I think the biggest ones are frustration and disappointment. I don’t think the COE is looking out for the students best interest. I see several issues with some of the proposed new programs and mine that I don’t think the COE should have allowed.

First, I really wish they would make it so that schools have summer breaks. Ross does accelerated, U of A doesn’t have summer breaks, and now LMU wants to open another three year program. While I know some people like it, I just think in such a difficult field where mental health and burnout are so real, the COE shouldn’t let schools do this. I don’t know if they can have a say in this, but I really wish we had summer breaks for research/relaxation/experiences. We have our whole lives to work.

As for the teaching hospital, I have mixed feelings. I have heard both sides of the coin and don’t know where I stand. I know fourth year clinical rotations can really suck in a VTH where they are short staffed, you are competing with interns and residents and basically working as a tech for free. But also my doctor told me some of her best experiences were in that hospital where she was allowed to do so much and saw so many cool things, and it makes me wonder what I might miss out on. I also can see the opposite, where maybe there will be more real world experience with a distributive model and maybe I’ll get to do more. I know some students who have 100s of surgeries under their belt three rotations in. But I get worried about the consistency of teaching and I’ve heard about how variable it is. I think it isn’t fair that students pay the same tuition for their clinical year and aren’t even on site.

Mostly, I feel sad for students who might be facing the same situation I had to (cue some of my own self pity)- having to make a decisions to go to a new program/a program that doesn’t have what you imagined when you thought about vet school or facing a ton of debt. Frankly, I’m frustrated that my in state was designed the way it was and it was allowed to come to fruition by the COE. It’s hard to be grateful for in state tuition when your school is struggling, but it’s hard too because at the time, it’s either take a chance and accept the things you don’t like, or take an additional 100k in loans to go more into debt for a school that has a more traditional model and what others in the profession see as more of a gold standard. U less you’re fortunate enough to have family assistance or you can afford to move somewhere, establish residency and take time before applying, your hands are tied (or at least that’s how I felt). And now that these schools are opening, many states are getting rid of their contract seats, or the school is private which sucks because it doesn’t help in state students at all.

That’s my rant/also just me venting about frustration I feel about my own experience so some of this applies to the whole thing and some of it’s just me. Really don’t need anyone to say anything- just kinda rambling on here as well.

But I’m gonna try and stay positive- something will work out in the end and gotta take it one day at a time. The US should really take a look at other countries educational models because honestly I think a lot of the issues just also come down to how the US education system works too!
 
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Okay, nerds. What's a good resource for learning how stats in medicine works? I'm seriously considering getting boarded in welfare and my skills in evaluating the materials/methods section of articles are slacking.
 
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how comfortable are you with stats? I find having a mathematical understanding is more useful than an understanding of the specific applications. ive jumped around different domains and the fundamental concepts are the same. I'm not masters or phd level tho-- just undergrad and industry.

these are my go-to's
Mathematical Statistics (online link)
Wiley Intro to Linear Regression (textbook)


This online resource is also good but I find it more useful for coding than actually a reference to concepts. it is biology specific though so maybe you'll find it more useful than I do
 
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how comfortable are you with stats? I find having a mathematical understanding is more useful than an understanding of the specific applications. ive jumped around different domains and the fundamental concepts are the same. I'm not masters or phd level tho-- just undergrad and industry.

these are my go-to's
Mathematical Statistics (online link)
Wiley Intro to Linear Regression (textbook)


This online resource is also good but I find it more useful for coding than actually a reference to concepts. it is biology specific though so maybe you'll find it more useful than I do
Back in undergrad, stats wasn't too bad for me, actually. It's just been 10 years since I took my "intro to stats" class, and I honestly didn't care in vet school cause I know it would be, like, 5 questions on NAVLE. So just took the L on those questions.

Thanks for the resources! I'm strongly considering getting stats for dummies or something like that 🤣
 
Back in undergrad, stats wasn't too bad for me, actually. It's just been 10 years since I took my "intro to stats" class, and I honestly didn't care in vet school cause I know it would be, like, 5 questions on NAVLE. So just took the L on those questions.

Thanks for the resources! I'm strongly considering getting stats for dummies or something like that 🤣
if you're starting from a beginner/early intermediate standpoint -- perfect! there's an interactive lesson website I love. datacamp.com

you can learn stats in an interactive manner rather than reading through a textbook. and you learn how to actually perform the statistical modeling at the same time during the lessons

this is the course I would specifically recommend on there but there are others

(there are other intro stats courses where you can learn how to model in Python but as speaking someone with a background in Python and R.. R is much more intuitive for statistical modeling and data manipulation. Python is better for other uses. both are still good options tho.)
 
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if you're starting from a beginner/early intermediate standpoint -- perfect! there's an interactive lesson website I love. datacamp.com

you can learn stats in an interactive manner rather than reading through a textbook. and you learn how to actually perform the statistical modeling at the same time during the lessons

this is the course I would specifically recommend on there but there are others

(there are other intro stats courses where you can learn how to model in Python but as speaking someone with a background in Python and R.. R is much more intuitive for statistical modeling and data manipulation. Python is better for other uses. both are still good options tho.)
You're awesome!!! Don't know if I'll be doing any of my own stats any time soon, but awesome information to have going forward
 
Found out the associate is leaving at the end of their contract. I'm not suprised and even kind of a little relieved...they just weren't a great fit amongst other things, but also a little sad to be going back to being solo and less flexibility with my schedule.
 
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Both of my closest dvm friends are struggling right now, one with life and work and the other with work. It makes me sad to see them in this time but hoping I can be a support pillar. It's wierd that I'm the only one "happy" but I suppose their experiences are far more common than mine. Stay strong out there friends.😊
 
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This may be a dumb and ignorant question, but I am overall curious. I live in a state of mountains and we really don't have any natural disasters such as flooding, hurricanes, tornadoes, etc. I was wondering what schools do in these instances, and what about students' pets? Kansas is in tornado alley, and I know hurricanes can be a potential danger for schools on the coast. This is mainly to get insight, especially if I were to attend a school in one of these areas!
 
This may be a dumb and ignorant question, but I am overall curious. I live in a state of mountains and we really don't have any natural disasters such as flooding, hurricanes, tornadoes, etc. I was wondering what schools do in these instances, and what about students' pets? Kansas is in tornado alley, and I know hurricanes can be a potential danger for schools on the coast. This is mainly to get insight, especially if I were to attend a school in one of these areas!
Depending on the severity of the storm or even the trajectory can rapidly shift plans, Mississippi will cancel classes for bad thunderstorms because it can cause a tornado. I’m pretty sure Auburn? was evacuated one year due to a hurricane. It’s kind of IMO the responsibility of the student to determine what to do with their animals and if they should seek shelter or evacuate the area.

If you were impacted by a disaster, I’m pretty sure your school would work with you to get you caught up in some way. I know some students at MSU have held gofundme campaigns to help when their classmates have been impacted due to house fires.
 
I live and went to vet school in a classic tornado state. Many houses have some sort of cellar or basement, and if your house doesn’t a neighbor likely does and it’s not uncommon to go to someone else’s house to hang if they blow the sirens. Or you hang out in an interior room and hope for the best. Also, part of the teaching hospital at my school was underground, and if people knew the tornado risk was extremely high and there was a storm coming but they didn’t have their own shelter at home, people would sometimes load up their animals and camp out in the hallways at school for a couple hours until the storm passed. Tornadoes happen but they’re pretty good at knowing when conditions will be right and when it isn’t a concern. If there had been an unexpected tornado during classes, they would have sent us to lower floors and you just ride it out while your pets stay home then you go check on them later. I’ve lived in Oklahoma for 28 of my 34 years of life and while we’ve taken shelter I’ve never been seriously hit by a tornado.

I did my residency in a hurricane state and went through Irma then Michael. The main concern for that is being without power, which doesn’t affect a pet like it does a human. Not that hurricanes can’t be destructive, but I think most of the schools are inland far enough that the storms aren’t as severe as to like, collapse or flood your house. I kept enough water and food on hand for me and the pets for a week but the longest I went without power after Irma was 2 days. Others in town went a week without power though. The school actually had house officers and some faculty come in and live at the school before and during the hurricane so that they had enough staff to cover emergencies even with the storm and after. They let us bring our animals with us if we were working, though they had to stay crated or in the available kennels. Students just stayed at home because classes were cancelled.

I actually think hurricanes are worse than tornadoes because with a tornado there can bad damage, but in a relatively small area. Like if your town gets hit by a tornado, the next town over will probably still be just fine for supplies, gas, power, etc. Damage with hurricanes tends to be more widespread and affect all the areas for many miles. But even then, at UF we were inland enough that it was just a stormy windy day where we lost power.
 
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Disaster preparedness was actually part of some of our coursework in school (NC), and hurricanes are absolutely pretty common. Raleigh is inland enough that they don't really get the worst of it at the school, but my close family lives on the coast and has evacuated multiple times - lost a good chunk of our roof to Florence a couple years ago, actually.

Historically my family had a tote with dog supplies and food for easy access during evac, and personal human "go bags". Usually hurricanes are known pretty well in advance, though, so hotels will be booked and things arranged as needed - it's fairly straightforward for a middle class family with a single dog. The families that can't afford to evacuate, have no transportation, medical problems (oxygen or dialysis machines at home...) or who have significant animal populations (including horses, etc) are much more complex to deal with.
 
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When you start freaking out about the future, so you make an emergency call to your tarot card reader. Hopefully she'll have good news for me *eye twitches*
 
One day I hope to get my **** together enough to buy my peppermint mocha before work and not after work.
 
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