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Kentucky:
1. U of L
2. U of K
3. KYCOM (DO)
1. U of L
2. U of K
3. KYCOM (DO)
Florida Resident
1.UM
2.USF
3.FIU
4.UCF
5.FSU
6.UF
7.FAU
8.Nova
9.LECOM
State: Pennsylvania
1. University of Pennsylvania
2. University of Pittsburgh
3. Jefferson
4. Penn State
5. Temple
6. The Commonwealth Medical College
7. Drexel*
Not ranked because I don't know enough about DO schools (though I would probably go PCOM first of the 2)
PCOM
LECOM
*Drexel still has not let me know that I am rejected yet. Send me a damn cursory form letter saying "thanks but no thanks." You don't even have to use my name or gender; you can go with a cursory "Dear Applicant." Get your stuff together cause to not even acknowledge the hours I put into your application is downright rude.
California:
UCLA
Stanford
UCSF
UCSD
UC Davis
USC
UCI
UCR
Loma Linda
Northstate
Don't know and don't care about DO schools.
Honestly, I don't know how people take any Cali school over UCLA. The reputation of UCLA medical system (#1 in the West) and medical school is not only well-respected but extremely well-known. Ask just about any resident, fellow and attending from any part of the country and even most of the world, he or she is almost guaranteed to be familiar with the name UCLA within their own field/specialty. The resources at the school are mind blowing with tons and tons of money from donations ($100 millions from David Geffen already and more is being promised) and grants being poured in every year. The diversity at the medical school is incredible and the location of Westwood is as good as it gets with acceptable cost of living compared to places like SF.
I interviewed at UCSF and Stanford. Both were extremely impressive but also weren't as well-rounded in all areas as UCLA.
Mostly because of the location and the atmosphere of the school. UC Davis is in a much better location than both USC and UCI. USC is just in a REALLY bad area. Also, my interview at UC Davis was much more pleasant and the students were a lot more visibly happy compared to my day at USC. I didn't interview at UCI but the reputation of the school was always "Meh. It's okay" whenever someone mention the school so that was why I put it lower.
100% ! If the money is equal, UCLA will be the one. Don't get me wrong, UCSF and Stanford are VERY impressive but in my personal opinion, UCLA is just so well-rounded in all areas of medical education that it's hard to compete with. As far as nationally, again in my opinion, UCLA is in the top 5. Anything and I mean just about anything you want in medicine can be provided by UCLA. There are so many opportunities at UCLA that one med student at my interview there summed up nicely "You have to be very careful in picking what opportunities you want to utilize here since there are so much going on you might waste your time doing so many things because everything is available to you!" Everyone in medicine will be impressed and assume that you are either a top student or an extremely well-trained physician, if you say you're medical student at David Geffen or did your training at UCLA medical system. Again, it's my two cents.So money being equal, you would go to UCLA over UCSF/Stanford?
Also, just curious, what position would you rank UCLA nationally then?
Yes, all of these reasons. Also I have a Nor Cal preference and am interested in working with urban populations - UCD is in the heart of Sacramento while UCI is in suburbia quite a trip away from their medical center. Also UCD is way cheaper than U$C.Mostly because of the location and the atmosphere of the school. UC Davis is in a much better location than both USC and UCI. USC is just in a REALLY bad area. Also, my interview at UC Davis was much more pleasant and the students were a lot more visibly happy compared to my day at USC. I didn't interview at UCI but the reputation of the school was always "Meh. It's okay" whenever someone mention the school so that was why I put it lower.
NY:
1) I consider all Manhattan programs to be the same at the medical student level.
2) Einstein
3)Rochester (With a big step between Einstein and Rochester)
4) All the SUNYs except Downstate (Maybe stony brook at the top)
5) Albany
6) NYMC
7) NYCOM
8) Touro Manhattan
9) Hofstra
10) Any Caribbean school
11) Nursing or PA School
12) Downstate (Did not like interviewing there)
Kentucky:
1. U of L
2. U of K
3. KYCOM (DO)
I truly was not a fan of the interview, very unpleasant experience. Plus, I know a couple of attendings who are Downstate grads who had less-than-positive opinions of their days as a medical student to put it lightly. I would not go there if it was my only acceptance. However, the student body all seemed pretty chill and nice at least, since I don't want to be too negative lol.Any Carib school before downstate? Did they kill your firstborn child??
How do the research opps compare between MU and SLU?This has definitely been an interesting thread. I would say
MO
1. WashU
2. Mizzou
3. SLU (SLU and Mizzou close on quality but in state cost for Mizzou puts it above)
4. UMKC
We have DO schools in Kirksville and Kansas City, but I wouldn't be able to say which one is better.
See I don't know either. Overall UK slightly edges out UofL in stats.Just curious as to why you put UofL over UK? I've heard it both ways, so I just wanted to know your opinion.
IMO Louisville has a better social scene than UK, and has more of a 20 something feel. Lexington is more of a college town.Just curious as to why you put UofL over UK? I've heard it both ways, so I just wanted to know your opinion.
has interviewed at or been offered an interview to most of the Florida schools and I don't think anyone, even the adcoms of the schools themselves, would believe this.
In my opinion:
1. UF
1-2. UM
3. UCF
4. USF
5. FAU
6. FSU
7. FIU
I ranked UCF pretty highly because they are growing fast, and in the next few years they'll be directly competing with UF and UM. UCF is getting a massive proportion of state funding, and is aiming to be in it's own little "healthcare city" and has the funds and faculty to do so. But, they still have the disadvantages associated with being a new school when it comes to residency matching. I have a pending interview here but those are just my first impressions.
USF I wasn't offered to interview at, so I don't know much about it other than it is an established mid-low tier medical school. Tampa is a pretty great place to get a medical education.
I wasn't offered an interview at FIU and didn't apply to DO, so I can't really comment on those schools.
Not from PA, but I will say I am confused as to why you have placed Jefferson above Temple, and The Commonwealth MC over Drexel. Drexel is at least as good as Jefferson. Of course U of Penn tops the list in the state and in many cases, outside the state. Penn State over Temple too, hmmm. ? Well, the do have Hershey. To each his/her own.
Can someone do a Louisiana one?
Have you interviewed at both? I was interested in UNMC but Christ that 90% IS student population and 70+k tuition for OOS.NE:
1) University of Nebraska Medical Center.
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100) Creighton
That was easy.
Very interesting that you put duke as 4, but I guess the one year preclinical curriculum is not too appealing. UNC is always awesome of course.According to where I wouldn't mind attending:
State: NC
1. Chapel Hill
2. East Carolina
3. Campbell
4. Duke
5. Wake Forest
According to where I wouldn't mind attending:
State: NC
1. Chapel Hill
2. East Carolina
3. Campbell
4. Duke
5. Wake Forest
Why Downstate last? Why Touro > NYCOM? Why AMC > NYMC? Not saying I disagree with you, I'm just curious. Also, is it based off of your interview experience, anecdotes or stats?I moved around a lot over the years, but I will call NY my homestate.
1) Columbia=Cornell
2) Mount Sinai
3) NYU
4) Rochester
5) Einstein
6) SUNY Buffalo
7) Stony Brook
8) Upstate
9) AMC
10) NYMC
11) Hofstra
12) Touro Harlem
13) NYCOM
14) Downstate
Why Downstate last? Why Touro > NYCOM? Why AMC > NYMC? Not saying I disagree with you, I'm just curious. Also, is it based off of your interview experience, anectodes or stats?
Drexel is definitely bottom tier in the philly area, if only because their admissions office is a complete joke. Temple and Penn State may flip-flop based on location preferences, but they are very similar in terms of research and clinical training IMO. TCMC and Drexel are essentially tied, but I think TCMC could easily eclipse Drexel in the future. The med school building was beautiful (except being located in Scranton), the longitudinal clerkships were interesting, and the faculty were very dedicated. If TCMC hires a more faculty as opposed to relying on volunteers and better coordinates the clinical sites it really could be an awesome choice for not only those wanting to serve NEPA, but PA applicants in general. Nothing is wrong with Drexel, but nobody really raves about it in the Philly area.
Anyway, PA:
1. Penn
2. Pitt
3. Jeff
4. Temple
5. Penn State
T6. TCMC
T6. Drexel
7. PCOM (really close to Drexel, has a really good rep in the Philly area)
8. LECOM
We will have to agree to disagree. I have friends that attended Jefferson. Perhaps things have changed. I truly hope so, but it was a letter grading system, and they felt like they were very punitive with their students.
I understand the ranking list from which you are drawing. This or one like it has Cooper listed above Drexel and Jefferson. This is just ridiculous IMHO. Cooper is new, and the main thing going for the hospital is it's trauma center. For anything else, better to go to Penn, Jeff, Temple, Drexel, etc. I put a lot into clinical factors and not just the newness of the school building.
Drexel's school of medicine years ago used to be The Medical College of Pennsylvania and before that Women's Medical College, and it's reputation was pretty good. Jefferson has a lot of nice things! Don't get me wrong. But you will have to go to Delaware for pediatrics rotations, pretty much--except the neonatal component.
As lackluster as city hospitals may be in terms of, well, being in an urban area, it is better if you want to see more, to be in dregs of West Philly or North Philly; although you will see more demographically mixed patients at CHOP. So, that's where Penn and Temple have an advantage, and at least Drexel has St. Christopher's. I think about clinical rotations, b/c that's where the student actually sees medicine, which is quite different from only learning didactics in the classroom. But to each her/his own.
Personally, I think those that can apply to Uniformed Services MS have the best deal overall. Good experiences and $0 tuition. Anyone that can at least try to apply there and get in should.
I truly was not a fan of the interview, very unpleasant experience. Plus, I know a couple of attendings who are Downstate grads who had less-than-positive opinions of their days as a medical student to put it lightly. I would not go there if it was my only acceptance. However, the student body all seemed pretty chill and nice at least, since I don't want to be too negative lol.
I was mainly going by the reputation of hospitals (St. Chris is awesome, Hershey is actually a huge referral center for all of central Pa, Hahnaman has really been going through a lot of difficulties) and the size and impact of their research. I totally agree its a personal preference and clinical training is really the most important, its just hard as a premed to even attempt to assess its quality.
But just as an aside West Philly is rapidly changing , thanks to "Penntrification"
Everyone has unique perspective of their in-state schools. I was reading this recent thread (see below) and thought it would be fun for every state to get involved. None of this has to go by numbers...you can put in explanations, but I'm not requiring anything.
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/thr...-the-new-york-city-med-schools.1123465/page-2
My ranking is based on what school I would attend first (at the current time) if I was hypothetically accepted to all of them (barring tuition as a factor).
State: MI
1. University of Michigan
2. Wayne State University SOM
3. Oakland University WB SOM
4. MSU CHM
5. MSU COM
6. WMUSM
7. CMU-MD
Lol duke at 4? Why?
Makes sense, not every school is for everyone haha. But putting it below Caribbean schools.. that's some tough criticism!
Lol.California:
...Don't know and don't care about DO schools.
I live right next door (30 from Chicago), but I would put SIU over Rosalind Franklin because of their research and dedicated hospital system. I would put Loyola equal or possibly over Rush, but that may be because I am waiting an interview decision.University of Chicago
Northwestern
UIC
Rush
Loyola
Rosalind Franklin
Southern Illinois
CCOM
University of Chicago
Northwestern
UIC
Rush
Loyola
Rosalind Franklin
Southern Illinois
CCOM
At least that seems to be the general consensus. That being said, I would go to Rush over Chicago or Northwestern in a fraction of a heartbeat just because I am a huge fan of their mission and school in general.
I think that's reasonably fair. UIC has a pretty fair amount of influence in the state of Illinois because such a big percentage of our doctors were educated there, maybe that has something to do with it.That's interesting that people keep ranking UIC so highly, my experience there was so underwhelming. Large class sizes, aging facilities, and they just don't seem to be as innovative as Rush or Loyola. I'd go with the first poster who had Illinois:
University of Chicago
Northwestern
Rush
Loyola
UIC
Rosalind Franklin
Southern Illinois
CCOM
Just to add my two cents to this (although I agree with @NorthOfBroad) if we are looking at just the philly/right near philly area Penn definite is consensus #1. After there you could make arguments for each of the trifecta that is Drexel/Temple/Jefferson, but I personally think Jefferson is a head above everyone else because of the culture surrounding the medical school. I interviewed at all three, and Jeff was the only place where the deans of the medical school actually took time out to talk to us individually, not as a group, and since they both go through everyone's application personally they will actually remember things about you from your application (such as your passion is white-water kayaking). At Temple the entire day felt disorganized and an admissions rep spent 20 minutes with us total, leaving us to then find our way to our interviews/activities. Drexel was a little more put together, but again very little admissions rep time. In terms of location, Jeff also definitely wins-center city is awesome. Drexel's clinical years take place in the city, but the first two exist at a campus outside of Philly, which is a nice, secluded campus but it seems like kind of a pain in the neck to get to since most students live downtown. Temple's area isn't great, but the campus is safe and the new student center is gorgeous (Temple's cad lab might be the coolest lab I've ever seen, with a ton of windows and a bunch of sunsets) but it didn't seem like a bunch of students live around there due to the area, so it's similar to Drexel in that there is a commute and that most students live around center city right near Jeff. Drexel and Jeff both seem to have pretty good faculty and administrative support, where Temple it just seems like the students are kind of on their own to do their own thing. Curriculum wise they all seem similar, although everything for Jeff is online/ipads and temple a lot seemed to be still in textbook form. Commonwealth to me seemed like a great concept and they're doing some really cool stuff with the curriculum, but Scranton really is kind of in the middle of nowhere so for me that was a huge turnoff (although living is unbelievably cheap and the facilities are gorgeous). Throw in research and you would get my rankings below. (For the trifecta alone, I would say Temple and Jefferson are close, with Jeff being more highly rated for me, and then Drexel a distant third.)Not from PA, but I will say I am confused as to why you have placed Jefferson above Temple, and The Commonwealth MC over Drexel. Drexel is at least as good as Jefferson. Of course U of Penn tops the list in the state and in many cases, outside the state. Penn State over Temple too, hmmm. ? Well, the do have Hershey. To each his/her own.
Oregon
1) OHSU
2) PCOM-NW