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Hey, just officially signed up for this beast. It's early but I figured this thread could provide some moral support to keep me on track with studying🙂 I have not done a couple of the pre-requisites, so slow and steady works for me. Looking forward to hearing from the rest of you!
 
Easier than what? I kind of got the feeling that the general consensus on this forum was that this MCAT was far from easy...

For me anyways, the bio and verbal section were not horrible.. but the physical science sucked balls! lol.. pm me if you want a more detailed explanation of the physical science.. (passages and what not)
 
Does anyone know how many questions you can miss per section to get at least a 30? I know for sure I missed at least 5-7 PS questions, and like 4-6 BS; as for VR, I'm gonna have to depend on luck. I know the scale is gonna be a little different from what I've seen on the practice tests, but I just wanna guesstimate what my raw score would be.
 
Does anyone know how many questions you can miss per section to get at least a 30? I know for sure I missed at least 5-7 PS questions, and like 4-6 BS; as for VR, I'm gonna have to depend on luck. I know the scale is gonna be a little different from what I've seen on the practice tests, but I just wanna guesstimate what my raw score would be.

This is from AAMC website:

"The raw score you receive on each section is converted to a score on this 15-point scale. For example, if your raw score on one of the sections is between 40 and 43, your converted score might be 11. Scores ranging from 44 to 46 might have a converted score of 12, and so forth."

If this holds any relevance (which it certainly may not) one would think that a PS raw score in mid/high 30's could yield a 10, especially given the seeming difficulty of our PS section.

As for Bio, I think that if the estimate above represents the "average test," it is probably pretty representative of the BS portion of our exam.

For VR, I'm with you. Who the hell knows. I actually found it the easiest part of this test but I only scored as high as 10 on practice so I'm not very hopeful. The way VR is scaled is a joke so I'm praying for a 10. Probably will be a 9 as usual.

As for your inquiry: Given the quoted statement from AAMC and the scale referenced, I'd say the answer to your question is that you can probably miss up to 15 q's and get a 10. Of course this is varies from test to test and god only knows what other factors unfathomable to us go into calculating these scores. Also, there is the issue of experimentals, which as we've already discussed at length, somehow (magically) factor into our score.
 
Easier than what? I kind of got the feeling that the general consensus on this forum was that this MCAT was far from easy...

The June 18th test...

That test was killer. Read back through that thread--it's a goodie (especially about the BS section)
 
The June 18th test...

That test was killer. Read back through that thread--it's a goodie (especially about the BS section)

I'll definitely check it out...seems like you did well enough though. What were your practice scores like?

You have a great app even with that score. No way you don't get into at least a mid-level MD program.
 
This is from AAMC website:

"The raw score you receive on each section is converted to a score on this 15-point scale. For example, if your raw score on one of the sections is between 40 and 43, your converted score might be 11. Scores ranging from 44 to 46 might have a converted score of 12, and so forth."

If this holds any relevance (which it certainly may not) one would think that a PS raw score in mid/high 30's could yield a 10, especially given the seeming difficulty of our PS section.

As for Bio, I think that if the estimate above represents the "average test," it is probably pretty representative of the BS portion of our exam.

For VR, I'm with you. Who the hell knows. I actually found it the easiest part of this test but I only scored as high as 10 on practice so I'm not very hopeful. The way VR is scaled is a joke so I'm praying for a 10. Probably will be a 9 as usual.

As for your inquiry: Given the quoted statement from AAMC and the scale referenced, I'd say the answer to your question is that you can probably miss up to 15 q's and get a 10. Of course this is varies from test to test and god only knows what other factors unfathomable to us go into calculating these scores. Also, there is the issue of experimentals, which as we've already discussed at length, somehow (magically) factor into our score.

Thanks, thomyorke, that gives me a little bit of hope, I guess. Sorry, this might be totally off-topic, but I notice you're from Boston, which is my hometown! Are u applying to all the schools in MA? As for me, my top choices are BU and Tufts.
 
I'll definitely check it out...seems like you did well enough though. What were your practice scores like?

You have a great app even with that score. No way you don't get into at least a mid-level MD program.

Man, Yorke (love Radiohead--saw them live, amazing light show and set list), you are the beacon of hope for this thread, haha. You are making me feel much better. Plus, you are keeping this thread alive. Being a paranoid premed student, you are giving me something to do besides write these secondaries (I don't know if that is a good thing... hmm).

I mean I was averaging around 30, but I didn't know that before I retook the test. I thought I was averaging higher, but I forgot that my test scores started out pretty low. By the end of the AAMC tests though I was scoring around 36. When I finally got around to actually going back through the tests and finding out my average I was a bit surprised! Ha! Nevertheless, I will be extremely happy if my score goes up just ONE point, that is all I ask, anything more will be a gift.

I also did feel the June 18th test was ridiculously hard... so yeah.
 
Thanks, thomyorke, that gives me a little bit of hope, I guess. Sorry, this might be totally off-topic, but I notice you're from Boston, which is my hometown! Are u applying to all the schools in MA? As for me, my top choices are BU and Tufts.

I will definitely be applying to the Boston schools and pretty much everywhere else haha. I am a New Yorker born and raised though (don't worry, I'm NOT a Yankees fan) and graduated from a tier 1 NY school in 2007.

So how did I end up in beantown? My GPA is not exactly stellar (3.3 cGPA, ~3.45 sGPA) so I've been trying to boost my resume ever since. I worked in biotech here for a while (Labwork- hated it) and have been working at Mass. General Hospital as a clinical research coordinator in Neurology for a little over a year now. It has been a truly incredible clinical experience and the MDs I work with are awesome, not to mention the fact that I've now got a few papers under my belt.

As far as MCAT goes, I feel your pain S2thindi. I actually took the PAPER MCAT back in 2006 (man, I feel old) and got almost the exact same score as you (29S). I never bothered applying at the time because of my grades (not trying to demean anyone but I will only consider US MD schools) but also have never lost sight of my dream and never will.

Like you guys, I'm just trying to keep my mind off of this test/wait. Between compulsively checking SDN and working a ton, this brutal wait has eased a little. That and the occasional drink helps hah. At this point, just waiting/ hoping to see that 30+ score and I'm good to go. I truly wish you guys all the best. Perhaps our paths will cross somewhere on this long journey...

Bamagurl: where in Boston are you from? Do you go to school here?
 
Not at all: 10PS 9VR 10BS R

It's posted for the whole world to see on my mdapplicants profile haha.

I have to second bamagurl here...with your sparkling GPA I prob wouldn't have re-taken. At the same time I give you mad props in going for it though. That takes guts.
 
Bamagurl: where in Boston are you from? Do you go to school here?

I lived in Dorchester for a while, but moved to Alabama at the age of 8 and have been here ever since. Boston will always have a special place in my heart, and I hope to go back someday. However, having been a southerner for so long, I don't know if I'm gonna get used to living up north again and I can't imagine life without sweet tea, and being able to hear and say "y'all" everyday, lol. 😀
 
However, having been a southerner for so long, I don't know if I'm gonna get used to living up north again and I can't imagine life without sweet tea, and being able to hear and say "y'all" everyday, lol. 😀

Hahah, well I can't imagine life with it, although the sweet tea thing sounds good. Who knows, if all goes according to plan maybe we'll be classmates at BU/Tufts. :xf:
 
On a stop light green means go, red means stop and yellow means slow down, but on a banana it's just the opposite. Green means 'hold on,' yellow means 'go ahead,' and red means, 'where the **** did you get that banana at?'
-Mitch Hedberg R.I.P

If y'all need a break from the MCAT, send your favorite joke or quote. It may make some of us feel better, haha.

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If y'all need a break from the MCAT, send your favorite joke or quote. It may make some of us feel better, haha.

That's a great idea, DOCnAbox! Okay, I know many of you have heard or are familiar with this one, but just thought I'd share it since it's somewhat relevant to this forum:


How many pre-med students does it take to change a light bulb?
1. One hundred; one to change the light bulb, the other ninety-nine
to stand around wondering why they weren't chosen.
2. None, pre-meds don't screw, they study.
3. Five: One to change the bulb and four to pull the ladder out from
under him.

 
Mitch Hedberg was a legend as far as I'm concerned

Lol.... as is demetri martin

I bet they named oranges before they named carrots.

What are these? those are orange... ok Oranges

What are these?? Oh S**t... long pointies?

or

I learned at a party this summer there is a small but important difference between peeing in the pool and peeing into the pool.


both Demetri Martin gems.
 
Mitch Hedberg was a legend as far as I'm concerned

Lol.... as is demetri martin

I bet they named oranges before they named carrots.

What are these? those are orange... ok Oranges

What are these?? Oh S**t... long pointies?

or

I learned at a party this summer there is a small but important difference between peeing in the pool and peeing into the pool.


both Demetri Martin gems.

Haha, I love Demetri Martin.

Some of my favorites...

When they were naming vitamins they must have thought there were going to be way more vitamins than there ended up being. OK let's name these: Vitamin A, Vitamin B...ok man slow down we've got a lot to cover here. B2, B3, B4, B5, B6, B12. Then they got to E and they were like 'We're pretty much done. We've got all those damn B's. This is embarrassing. Let's just skip to K and get the hell out of here.

The thing about glitter is if you get it on you, be prepared to have it on you forever. Glitter is the herpes of craft supplies. Here comes the sun... uh oh, flare-up!

I think it would be cool, if you were writing a ransom note in Microsoft Word, and it popped up, the paperclip and said, “It looks like you’re writing a ransom note… need some help? You should curse more.” The paperclip would be all messed up, you know? I never saw a paperclip with tattoos before.

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I wish more members who also took the Sept. 12 test would post to this thread; believe it or not, reading what everyone has to say helps me turn my focus away from MCAT-related thoughts.

But it seems like only a few of us including myself are the ones keeping it alive...
 
haha I guess we're not entertaining enough for you?


NO! That's not what I meant. What I'm trying to say is if more people would contribute opinions/ideas/etc., then there would be more posts for neurotic pre-meds (like me) to read. Of course u guys are entertaining, otherwise why I would check this forum 24/7 right? 😀
 
It's amazing how much school can keep your mind off the MCAT. First 2x I got my score back in the summer or very early in the school year. This year I'm too stressed about other stuff to worry.

Ok, that post isn't gonna help anyone forget about the MCAT. Let's see here. Any hockey fans in here?
 
It's amazing how much school can keep your mind off the MCAT.


Funny you said that, because I've had tests all week, and school is actually the last thing on my mind. The MCAT is the first thing I think about as soon as I wake up and the only thing on my mind until I go to bed. As if that's not bad enough, I can't stop having nightmares about getting horrible scores. Yeah, I definitely need psychotherapy or something....somebody help me please!!! 🙁
 
Funny you said that, because I've had tests all week, and school is actually the last thing on my mind. The MCAT is the first thing I think about as soon as I wake up and the only thing on my mind until I go to bed. As if that's not bad enough, I can't stop having nightmares about getting horrible scores. Yeah, I definitely need psychotherapy or something....somebody help me please!!! 🙁

Ha, I had a nightmare last night about the MCAT also...
My score was PS 7, VR 6, BS 12
Don't know why I dreamed my BS was so high but with that score I would prob hang myself!
 
I generally try to avoid showing my MCAT obsessive behaviour however I too had my first and only bad MCAT dream over the 3 times I've taken it....

I was checking scores and I received a 10,10,10 T...... and despite that sounding great... I rewrote solely to get a 10,10 and 11 in bio for some Canadian cutoffs..... so I was dissapointed....

However, then my score started to update and I got all excited that I may get the score I needed and my score changed to 4,10,8 and nothing for the writing.... and I was devastated lol.

I woke up and was greatly relieved that I did not score a 4 in physical.
 
i LOVE demetri martin! glad to see other people who do too 🙂
i'm okay most of the time in terms of post-MCAT-obsessing, but once in awhile, i have little nervous panic attacks
 
The MCAT is the first thing I think about as soon as I wake up and the only thing on my mind until I go to bed.

Hmm...I think this is known as OCD. Seriously, though, just enjoy life for now. When you get your score you can reflect, analyze, and decide on the necessary course of action. At this point everything is out of our hands. It is only counter-productive to let it have this sort of power over you. As an MD said to me recently, this is only one in a long, long line of tests you will be taking on your way to becoming a doctor. Just shake it off, have confidence in yourself and move on to the next battle!
 
Just shake it off, have confidence in yourself and move on to the next battle!

Sooooooo... What happens if you have that confidence in yourself and you fail? What if you fail miserably? Then what? Try again? What happens if you try again, and fail? Change up your approach?
What if you fail after that?

How about confidence then?

I always ask people about how the view confidence when you suck exceptionally at something.

How do you guys view its importance? How does confidence work for you? How have you successfully and unsuccessfully applied confidence to personal "consistent fail" situations (MCAT and otherwise)?
Does confidence change your score, or just the way you perceive that score?

Your thoughts please...
 
Do you have it set at 5:00PM? Because remember June 18th.... 9PM MST for me 🙁

Yeah, it didn't show up till about 8PM Central time for me which really pissed me off 😱. But my clock is set for 5PM central time because that's when the date says. Whether it is later or earlier than that exact time is up to the AAMC dudes who are, as we type, laughing at our miserable scores and feeling a small amount of retribution for not becoming doctors themselves...mwahaha!

Now for the comedian of the day...
Mr. Jim Gaffigan

You know, the male seahorse has the baby. Why don't they just call that the female seahorse? You know it's just some stubborn scientist... "Yeah, that one there is the male." "Uh Bill... that ones having a baby". "Male has the baby... you're fired!"

"I watch a lot of T.V., I drink a lot of coffee, but you know what's really addictive? Heroin. That'll grab you by the horn... what horn?"

"Pancakes definitely make you lower your expectations. You’re like, “Well, looks like I’m not showering today.”

"I love how New York is so multicultural. I wish I was ethnic, I'm nothing. Because if you're Hispanic and you get angry, people are like, 'He's got a Latin temper!' If you're a white guy and you get angry, people are like, 'That guy's a jerk!"

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Sooooooo... What happens if you have that confidence in yourself and you fail? What if you fail miserably? Then what? Try again? What happens if you try again, and fail? Change up your approach?
What if you fail after that?

How about confidence then?

I always ask people about how the view confidence when you suck exceptionally at something.

How do you guys view its importance? How does confidence work for you? How have you successfully and unsuccessfully applied confidence to personal "consistent fail" situations (MCAT and otherwise)?
Does confidence change your score, or just the way you perceive that score?

Your thoughts please...

I would probably first try to find the reason for my exceptional suckitude. If it really is my ability, and no matter how hard I try I cannot improve, then what choice do I have but to let it go? Confidence doesn't do so much for your MCAT score when you receive it; it's not going to make a 20 look any better. But it will improve your chances of beating it the next time. It'll make your 20 seem like not such a big deal because you know you can do better the next time.

If I was repeatedly pulling 20 on the MCAT, at some point (after 3 tries?) I would have to throw in the towel, admit it's not for me, and try something else.

Is this for school? 😛
 
I would probably first try to find the reason for my exceptional suckitude. If it really is my ability, and no matter how hard I try I cannot improve, then what choice do I have but to let it go? Confidence doesn't do so much for your MCAT score when you receive it; it's not going to make a 20 look any better. But it will improve your chances of beating it the next time. It'll make your 20 seem like not such a big deal because you know you can do better the next time.

If I was repeatedly pulling 20 on the MCAT, at some point (after 3 tries?) I would have to throw in the towel, admit it's not for me, and try something else.

Is this for school? 😛

Absolutely correct. Confidence only helps to a certain extent. If the raw ability or the ability to learn doesn't exist (which inevitably in many people it won't) then sadly it may not matter how hard you try.

This is not to say that your life will be a failure just because you can't get into medical school or achieve whatever other goal you may have. It just means, as winterpegger so eloquently stated, that perhaps you are better suited for something else. Understanding this fact is an intricate part of life and nowhere is it more apparent than in medicine where you have just 40 percent of a very skilled population admitted every year.

In this case, the reason for my optimism is that I truly believe that if you put in the time and effort to study and scored well on practice tests (assuming they simulated test conditions as closely as possible) there is no reason to believe that you won't do well on the MCAT. At the very least this shows that you CAN do well on the MCAT. Unless you know that you TRULY messed something up, why not stay positive and expect the best? If you knew your stuff and the test was hard for you, odds are you are not alone. And honestly, if you do know that you messed up, learn from your mistakes the next time and you'll be fine.

Moral of the story: I didn't mean to imply that JUST confidence will get you a great MCAT score. I do believe that it needs to be a part of the equation but when it all comes down to it the intangibles have to be there.
 
Does confidence change your score, or just the way you perceive that score?

Your thoughts please...

As far as the MCAT is concerned, confidence will not change the way I perceive my score. I know the score that I want/need and my level of confidence after the fact has nothing to do with how I will feel about my score when I see it.

Certainly confidence can change your score, though. I believe that this test more than any other requires a huge degree of confidence. Confidence in yourself and confidence in the material are essential to success. Honestly, some of the worst scores I've heard on this test from capable test takers are from people who say that a section/passage/question shook them and ruined their performance on the rest of the test. You've gotta be able to shake it off and move on.

Thus, I believe that confidence can change ones score but it does little for the way that they will ultimately perceive that score. I hope that makes sense.
 
Weird lol... you'll need to start up your own September 13th thread.

I had nothing on mice... and definitely matched up with the people on here.

I was one of the first to start at my centre so when I would leave the room I could look in the windows and see people working on the section I just wrote... almost every time I saw a passage I had just done... except for one screen after bio when I was going to my locker to go home..... One guy had a graph I definitely did not see.

By the sounds of it however, you got an absolutely different test.
While having a different test shouldn't make a difference.... I'm sorry to hear about the circumstance by which you received that different test.

That would have thrown off my sleeping and focus also....
Hopefully you still did well... best of luck.

Haha, thanks! Yeah, still puzzled about the sleep -- usually NOTHING can throw off my sleep.

Not too confident about my score, since I felt like the test was not too hard. (if you're now thinking WTF??? it was so hard, who is this guy, please read my first post on p6!) This likely means that everyone else also found it easy, which in turn means there is little margin for error. The curve will probably be 52 = 15, 51 = 14, 50 = 13, 48-49 = 12, or something ridiculous like that (not accounting for experimental questions). In practice, usually the more raped I felt after a test, the better I did. Maybe it made me focus more; I don't know.

So I really don't know how to feel about it. 😕 Will just have to wait and see I guess....
 
So I was wondering, is there anyone out there who still hasn't submitted their primaries besides me? I know waiting until after I get my score back in October would hurt my chances of getting an interview since it would delay things a little bit, provided it takes several weeks to get everything verified. But if I scored in the low 20's, is there even a point in applying then?
 
Haha that is awesome dude...love the name. Hopefully Thom and the boys have been helping you to get through this agonizing wait. I know it always helps me through times like this. Funny thing, this girl at my testing center had one of the most recent tour shirts on. I guess a lot of pre-meds are into Radiohead.

As far as your test goes, I'm sorry to hear about your ordeal. If you are unhappy with your score I would definitely try to write to AAMC and see if perhaps they will refund you or provide you with a new date due to your terrible inconvenience. I know it sucks and this would provide little consolation but what else can you do?

How did you feel the test was overall as far as content goes? Easier/ harder than practice tests?

I'm still mystified that nobody that posts on here had that other version on the 12th...

Thom and the boys sure did. I listened to "All I Need" and "Let Down" (along with some Tiesto) right before heading into the exam. Both on Saturday and Sunday, lol. Two weird Radiohead songs to get pumped up to, I know, but it works for me. What did you think of Eraser? I loved it, hope thom does some more solo work.

I felt my test was a bit easier than the practice tests -- all three sections. But I don't think this is necessarily a good thing (see my reply to supafield above).

If I get the energy I will write the AAMC. Hopefully I don't need to retake, however. I'll be happy with a 32+. Higher than that won't make a big difference at the schools I'm applying to (U of C, U of A, Canada) given the weighting criteria at these schools.
 
Ok so i thought my mcat experience was pretty fun, so I'll share with you guys.

The night before the mcat, I made a sandwich to eat during the breaks. That morning when I got up, I found out my dad had EATEN MY SANDWICH! In my head --> "Ok no big deal, it's not bad luck, it's ok, i'll just make another one."

Made another one, got out to the car, adjusted the mirrors, set the gps, turned the ignition...MY CAR WOULDN'T START!!!
In my head --> "Ok, this is starting to look like a bad day. NO, no negative thoughts. EVERYTHINGS GOING TO BE OK."
Turns out the battery decided to die that morning...OF ALL DAYS!

Now I get to the worst part of the day.
Still got to the testing center on time. Waited in line, did all the procedural stuff. Got to the fingerprinting and pocket flipping...

OMG I HAD A FREAKING HOT PROCTOR! Every time she walked in it was SOOOO DISTRACTING!
In my head --> "FML 😱"

If my bad luck was any indication of how I did, I'm pretty screwed.
 
Ok so i thought my mcat experience was pretty fun, so I'll share with you guys.

The night before the mcat, I made a sandwich to eat during the breaks. That morning when I got up, I found out my dad had EATEN MY SANDWICH! In my head --> "Ok no big deal, it's not bad luck, it's ok, i'll just make another one."

Made another one, got out to the car, adjusted the mirrors, set the gps, turned the ignition...MY CAR WOULDN'T START!!!
In my head --> "Ok, this is starting to look like a bad day. NO, no negative thoughts. EVERYTHINGS GOING TO BE OK."
Turns out the battery decided to die that morning...OF ALL DAYS!

Now I get to the worst part of the day.
Still got to the testing center on time. Waited in line, did all the procedural stuff. Got to the fingerprinting and pocket flipping...

OMG I HAD A FREAKING HOT PROCTOR! Every time she walked in it was SOOOO DISTRACTING!
In my head --> "FML 😱"

If my bad luck was any indication of how I did, I'm pretty screwed.

Wow, this has got to be the best and most hilarious MCAT story ever! Especially the part about your dad eating the sandwich, haha, I couldn't stop laughing!
 
hahah actually the bad luck didn't end there

During the VR part, i swear that girl walked in 40 times but that's besides the point.

Now for all of you who have taken the AAMC practice test, I'm sure you can spot what the practice tests have that the real test doesn't. A SEARCH FUNCTION!

OMG, WTF? ARE THEY SCREWING WITH US?!!! Why on earth would you put a search function on the practice test when there isn't one on the real test?

I know it's my fault for not going through the tutorial but come on!

I seriously sat there for a minute trying to find that sucker...
As you can imagine, my facial expression was somewhere along these lines...:scared:
 
It's funny, I research for a clinical insomnia program but ever since I've taken the mcat, I've become an insomniac.



Of course, we gotta start off with a little jabbawockeez. I've got a mancrush on these guys. A Bromance if you will.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShDNYpzzkko
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHDwxIfiOwE&feature=related



And to throw in a little comedy.



Today, I played with a boomerang my first time. I didn't believe that when you threw it, it comes right back to you. It flew back all right. And broke my nose. FML
 
Ok, that post isn't gonna help anyone forget about the MCAT. Let's see here. Any hockey fans in here?

HUGE hockey fan. Played for many years. I actually just bought tix to see my Rangers play on 10/11. Since I'm in Boston now I go to the occasional B's game but now that the bandwagon has started it's hard to get cheap tickets. A few years ago you could just go down to the TD Garden and get scalped tix for next to nothing.

Any predictions for this year? Blackhawks looking good as long as PK doesn't fight any more cab drivers...
 
Any predictions for this year? Blackhawks looking good as long as PK doesn't fight any more cab drivers...

Lol

The Leafs actually look like a playoff team this year with their defense. They may have an issue scoring.... but it's been a long while since I believed that a Leafs team has the necessary talent to make the playoffs and the core players to eventually have a Stanley Cup contender.

I really think they're only missing 1 or 2 scorers.
 
So I was wondering, is there anyone out there who still hasn't submitted their primaries besides me? I know waiting until after I get my score back in October would hurt my chances of getting an interview since it would delay things a little bit, provided it takes several weeks to get everything verified. But if I scored in the low 20's, is there even a point in applying then?

Bamagurl.... you need to send in the primaries today! They are already interviewing at UAB, South Alabama, and plenty other places I know you are applying to. The primaries are not that expensive and the time consuming stuff you'll have to do sooner or later so why not sooner? You need a bad ass personal statement and lists of all the EC stuff you've done. Submit today or as soon as possible. When they send the secondaries, which many wont for at least 2 or 3 weeks, you can fill those out (or not if you don't like your MCAT) when they come in the mail/e-mail.
 
Lol

The Leafs actually look like a playoff team this year with their defense. They may have an issue scoring.... but it's been a long while since I believed that a Leafs team has the necessary talent to make the playoffs and the core players to eventually have a Stanley Cup contender.

I really think they're only missing 1 or 2 scorers.

You guys got Kessel too...very nice pickup there. Watched him play quite a few times with the B's last year and the kid has skills. He just needs to learn how to finish and to move the puck a bit better.
 
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