2012-2013 Radiology Applicants Thread

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I would agree to a certain degree, I think Davis has better training but less research; would probably rank them Davis ~= irvine >> cedars.

How would you rank these programs in texas?
UTSW > Baylor- Dallas > UT-Houston > UT-San Antonio > Baylor- Houston
 
How would you rank these programs in texas?
UTSW > Baylor- Dallas > UT-Houston > UT-San Antonio > Baylor- Houston
UTSW the best. Then Baylor Dallas. Then the two Houstons practically tied, but some might say UT Houston better. Then whatever else is leftover is just meh...san antonio, galveston, texas a&m, etc.
 
UTSW the best. Then Baylor Dallas. Then the two Houstons practically tied, but some might say UT Houston better. Then whatever else is leftover is just meh...san antonio, galveston, texas a&m, etc.

Well I am heading to one of those "meh" programs next week (Galveston). I will see how "meh" it is.


... Meh.
 
My opinion: utsw > Baylor Dallas = Baylor Houston > ut-h > all others.
 
Also, where does mayo clinic fl fall compared to southeast places like miami, emory, vanderbilt, wake, uva, unc, duke?
 
Also, where does mayo clinic fl fall compared to southeast places like miami, emory, vanderbilt, wake, uva, unc, duke?

Not in the same league as those. The satellite mayos /= the real mayo.
 
Mayo Jacksonville definitely has the nicest hospital but is not as research oriented as the other places mentioned. Their hospital is only like 250 beds but the program is also small - 4 per yr.
 
Heard on the interview trial that utmb chair recently (not sure how recent, months?) left. Was really impressed with Scott/white.
 
Also, where does mayo clinic fl fall compared to southeast places like miami, emory, vanderbilt, wake, uva, unc, duke?


My ranking for southeast programs.
Duke > UVA = UNC = emory > (only slightly >) wake = vanderbilt = miami.

What do you guys think?

Also, for ny programs what would be the ranking?
NYU > Columbia = Cornell = Mt. Sinai.
 
My ranking for southeast programs.
Duke > UVA = UNC = emory > (only slightly >) wake = vanderbilt = miami.

What do you guys think?

Also, for ny programs what would be the ranking?
NYU > Columbia = Cornell = Mt. Sinai.
wake is considered to be better than everything in the southeast except duke
 
My ranking for southeast programs.
Duke > UVA = UNC = emory > (only slightly >) wake = vanderbilt = miami.

What do you guys think?

Also, for ny programs what would be the ranking?
NYU > Columbia = Cornell = Mt. Sinai.

Cornell > nyu >>>> Columbia.

Nyu got obliterated by sandy.

No way wake > Emory and unc imo
 
Cornell > nyu >>>> Columbia.

Nyu got obliterated by sandy.

No way wake > Emory and unc imo

This is what I thought. Wake is not as prestigious as people make it out to be. This is relative terms of course. Wake is still an outstanding program, btw!
UNC and Emory both have lots of public and private funding. Also, wake just recently got its own children's hospital on their main campus just 2 years ago.
 
Now that most invites are winding down, what does everyone's season look like? I've settled on 17 interviews that I'm going on right now pending getting off any waitlists. Will be traveling from East Coast to West Coast to Midwest and South as well. :luck:
 
Now that most invites are winding down, what does everyone's season look like? I've settled on 17 interviews that I'm going on right now pending getting off any waitlists. Will be traveling from East Coast to West Coast to Midwest and South as well. :luck:

9 interviews so far. 4 in my home state, 5 in the south east. The regional bias of Rads is disgusting. :laugh:

I already interviewed at my top 2 choices, and deciding between these two is going to be difficult as hell because I LOVE them both.
 
Going on 15ish rads right now. Been on 7 and 2 transitional.

Going to have a tough time with the top of the list.
 
Been on around 9 so far and have 12 more scheduled. I would cancel some but the ones I have been on have been primarily the bottom half of my list and didn't want to cancel until I had a good idea for what my total invite total was. Mostly in my region (SE). Have only been shut out from one of the top players in the SE but have gotten more from TX than I had thought I would which I am pretty excited about and some from the NE and Chi that I would not have expected at all. I may have over applied but if I would have had to trim down my list I probably would have eliminated two of my most competitive invites because I doubted my chances there. Like Johnny Drama says, the cost of an app is small beans in this game so it definitely worked out.

Trying to organize the top third of my list is pretty tough right now, balancing staying in my region and living very comfortably on a resident's salary vs a bigger city and downsizing housing.
 
My list panned out almost exactly how I planned. I had the reach/competitive/safety thing going.

So far my biggest surprise has been how many have outright told me they loved my personal statement and made it the central talking point. I would have liked one more "upper tier" one, but I'm also very aware that I did well for my averages and have a list that many would be jealous of.

Biggest regret is not highlighting my Midwest connections as much and directly communicating with programs.
 
I would agree to a certain degree, I think Davis has better training but less research; would probably rank them Davis ~= irvine >> cedars.

They were close enough in my book where I ranked Irvine above Davis just because of location.

Cedars was much further down my list
 
can people rank these 6 programs based solely on training and fellowship match; no consideration to location.

Rush, MCW, UIC, Henry Ford, Beaumont, UofCincinnati
 
can people rank these 6 programs based solely on training and fellowship match; no consideration to location.

Rush, MCW, UIC, Henry Ford, Beaumont, UofCincinnati

From what I have heard, MCW > UofCinn = Beaumont > Rush > UIC

Don't know where Henry Ford would fall into, but probably closer to UIC side of spectrum rather than MCW side?
 
Also, wake just recently got its own children's hospital on their main campus just 2 years ago.

Not true. Wake has had it's own children's hospital (Brenner) for 25+ years. However, we did just get a dedicated Peds ED only 2 years ago. Prior to that, all kids came through what is now the Adult ED. This worked because Brenner Children's is part of the Wake Forest Baptist Medical Center campus.
 
what do you guys know about UMDNJ-NJ in newark? thanks!
 
I wouldn't obsess too much about the rankings unless you want to do academics. Outside of the bottom 20 or 30% of programs the training is superb no matter where you go.
 
so if you do want to academics, you definitely need an academic/university program?
 
Even then, you don't necessarily need it. I've had one community program tell me over 60% of their residents went into academics and then a major academic program tell me that about 40% of their residents go into academics.
 
so if you do want to academics, you definitely need an academic/university program?

Look at the CV's of any academic department in the country. Even the mecca programs have attendings who trained at what many of us consider "Weak" programs
 
I've received 16 interview invites thus far, but trying to figure out how many I actually want to go on. There's one program that I probably won't end up ranking, and two programs that I am not that interested in and are also posing scheduling dilemmas. If I cancel those 2, would 13 still be enough to safely match or should I just suck it up and go on all of them? My list has a couple top programs and a couple good safeties, but several interviews are out of my region.
 
I've received 16 interview invites thus far, but trying to figure out how many I actually want to go on. There's one program that I probably won't end up ranking, and two programs that I am not that interested in and are also posing scheduling dilemmas. If I cancel those 2, would 13 still be enough to safely match or should I just suck it up and go on all of them? My list has a couple top programs and a couple good safeties, but several interviews are out of my region.

You shouldn't interview at a place you don't intend on ranking (at least pre-interview mindset). If you already interviewed and decided you won't rank it based on the interview day, that's a different story. If you're not serious about the other two programs, I don't think you should go either. Don't waste your energy and resources and don't waste theirs.

13 is enough to match unless you come off like a jerk at interviews.
 
You shouldn't interview at a place you don't intend on ranking (at least pre-interview mindset). If you already interviewed and decided you won't rank it based on the interview day, that's a different story. If you're not serious about the other two programs, I don't think you should go either. Don't waste your energy and resources and don't waste theirs.

13 is enough to match unless you come off like a jerk at interviews.

Thanks for the advice. The one I'm not planning on not ranking is one I have already been to but just not the right fit for me. The two I'm considering canceling are good programs and I would probably be happy there, but would most likely be in my bottom 3 or 4 programs just based on geographical preferences. Given that, I would prefer not to spend the time and money to attend unless I really need to. I just really don't want to regret canceling them if I end up not matching somewhere.
 
can people rank these 6 programs based solely on training and fellowship match; no consideration to location.

Rush, MCW, UIC, Henry Ford, Beaumont, UofCincinnati

Splitting hairs in my opinion but I'd say:

Rush = MCW > UIC > Henry Ford > Beaumont > U of C

Pretty hard to go wrong with any of those though if you don't care about location and will come down to personal preference and gut feel. Fellowships placement is a whole different beast but you'll probably get a great fellowship coming from any of those.
 
so if you do want to academics, you definitely need an academic/university program?

No not at all. It allows you to form connections earlier and I guess make it "easier " to stay on staff at that institution if it's what you really want to do. Overall though probably won't make a big difference. You'll have to network with local PP groups or academic departments no matter where you train.
 
Thanks for the advice. The one I'm not planning on not ranking is one I have already been to but just not the right fit for me. The two I'm considering canceling are good programs and I would probably be happy there, but would most likely be in my bottom 3 or 4 programs just based on geographical preferences. Given that, I would prefer not to spend the time and money to attend unless I really need to. I just really don't want to regret canceling them if I end up not matching somewhere.

I'd go on as many interviews as you can financially and logistically attend, unless you have no interest in or no intention of ranking a program beforehand, in which case I'd cancel it. Those "good" programs you are considering canceling are probably worth going to regardless of location -- you never know, a program could stand out so much and jump way up your list regardless of the location.

You'll probably be fine interviewing at 13 places to match. The magic number when I applied was 15 but that was an overestimate in my opinion and I've heard it's less competitive this cycle.
 
off the NYU waitlist! up to 14 interviews now 🙂
 
Does anyone have any insight about Stanford? Certainly it has a great name, but I've heard that it's really a better place to do fellowship than residency because of the large number of fellows and low overall case volume. The cost of living in Palo Alto and a perceived "family oriented" vibe kind of concern me too (doesn't seem like the most fun place to live if you're single, not sure how accessible it is to SF). Thanks!
 
Does anyone have any insight about Stanford? Certainly it has a great name, but I've heard that it's really a better place to do fellowship than residency because of the large number of fellows and low overall case volume. The cost of living in Palo Alto and a perceived "family oriented" vibe kind of concern me too (doesn't seem like the most fun place to live if you're single, not sure how accessible it is to SF). Thanks!

Stanford makes up for its lack of volume with lots of complex volume, lots of research, and good didatics. I think it'd be fine. As far as dating, I enjoyed the Bay Area but many people think it's not a great place for hetero ppl of either gender (especially females) but I'm not sure I'd totally agree with that. That being said there are A LOT of mid 20s people with good jobs in the peninsula; whether that's your scene is another issue entirely.
 
Just reviewing last years thread and it seems like 90% of people matched at their number 1. Is this reality or are people just less likely to post if they didn't match well? SDN bias due to stronger applicants?
 
Been on around 9 so far and have 12 more scheduled. I would cancel some but the ones I have been on have been primarily the bottom half of my list and didn't want to cancel until I had a good idea for what my total invite total was. Mostly in my region (SE). Have only been shut out from one of the top players in the SE but have gotten more from TX than I had thought I would which I am pretty excited about and some from the NE and Chi that I would not have expected at all. I may have over applied but if I would have had to trim down my list I probably would have eliminated two of my most competitive invites because I doubted my chances there. Like Johnny Drama says, the cost of an app is small beans in this game so it definitely worked out.

Trying to organize the top third of my list is pretty tough right now, balancing staying in my region and living very comfortably on a resident's salary vs a bigger city and downsizing housing.

21 interviews dude? That is ridiculous and a complete waste. You are doing a disservice to yourself, the programs, and your peers.
 
Just reviewing last years thread and it seems like 90% of people matched at their number 1. Is this reality or are people just less likely to post if they didn't match well? SDN bias due to stronger applicants?

Combination of both, but more so the latter. I was fortunate enough to get my #1. A good number from my med school class did. And for most of those that didn't, the lowest I heard they fell was #5 and they were ranking places like MGH, MIR, UPenn, UWashington, Hopkins, UCSF, UMich etc. pretty high. They all still matched at top-tier places anyway.

Seems like where you end up on your list is a bit more variable if you're only ranking the elite programs up there, but that's just my experience. Maybe others can chime in.
 
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21 interviews dude? That is ridiculous and a complete waste. You are doing a disservice to yourself, the programs, and your peers.

21 may be on the high side, but don't hate the playa -- hate the game.
 
21 interviews dude? That is ridiculous and a complete waste. You are doing a disservice to yourself, the programs, and your peers.

I agree it is definitely on the high side but the programs at the bottom of my list are the ones I interviewed at in Oct and early Nov before most of my better programs came in. The few I have left are all going to be in my top ten and I have recently declined several that I have received from waitlists. Would not have been prudent to cancel any interviews the way mine came in although in retrospect I would have scheduled more in the latter part of the season to be able to safely cancel more.
 
I've been turning down many interviews, but I still have a few scheduled later on that would probably go at the bottom of my rank list anyway. I'm thinking of declining these (not to mention that they're on the opposite coast so would be really expensive), but paranoia is preventing me from actually turning them down. Are 13 rads interviews enough, or should I go on several more? I've already received post-interview contact that I would be very highly ranked at one program, so at least I know I'm not completely screwing up my interviews.

So tough to decide given the relative lack of feedback before match day...
 
Based on the match data your chances of matching are like 97% with 13 interviews. FWIW.
 
Only on SDN or AM would 13 interviews not be enough.
 
Naw, I know people not on SDN asking the same thing.
 
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