2013-2014 Underdawgs Thread ( Lets get it)

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serenade said:
an AZCOM int with a 22 is somewhat unreal I must admit.
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BestDoctorEver said:
I am shocked that applicant got an ii at AZCOM as well since people in SDN have been saying that they like high MCAT score. How things are shaping up for you so far this cycle Serenade?
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Winterland said:
When was your primary complete? Your secondaries roughly complete? And when did you interview?
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Primary complete in july, secondary complete in August (all of them) and my interview with AZCOM and LMUDCOM are next week.

I am very persistent, and with that i've had the opportunity to interview at AZCOM, and I had to pull some strings. 😛 I know it's weird I got the interview, but I don't expect to get accepted to AZCOM... I mean, i'd love it---but i'm just being realistic. (and pessimistic)
 
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VinceViegel said:
Didn't you have a few interviews early in the cycle?
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Yah, one went decent. One was a catastrophe that informed me that the entire premise of applying to said school was worthless and I genuinely prayed that I wouldn't get accepted. One was ok. And the last one was good but only for me.
In either regard I learned a lot about the schools I applied and how my list was albeit logical, not an entire fit for what I want for my life:
 
LMU seems to be interviewing lots of people with 22's
 
user3 said:
LMU seems to be interviewing lots of people with 22's
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Yeah, I feel lucky to have an interview with them as well. I've been complete with them since August 15th, and I just recently was offered the interview.
 
burning_bridges said:
SOMA rejection letter by snail mail today. I liked CCOMs letter better, better use of font and type of paper
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I got the SOMA rejection letter as well. I wish they'd refund our money if they aren't going to at least give an interview. Starting to lose hope.
 
By the way guys, I called ACOM today and they told me the class is 2/3s full and that it was "late" in the application cycle for them. Guess they are filling up quick there!
beweezy said:
I got the SOMA rejection letter as well. I wish they'd refund our money if they aren't going to at least give an interview. Starting to lose hope.
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Just try to stay positive, I got an interview to Charles Drew and that alone is a miracle. One schools trash (rejection) is another schools treasure (interview/acceptance) lol 😀
 
burning_bridges said:
By the way guys, I called ACOM today and they told me the class is 2/3s full and that it was "late" in the application cycle for them. Guess they are filling up quick there!

Just try to stay positive, I got an interview to Charles Drew and that alone is a miracle. One schools trash (rejection) is another schools treasure (interview/acceptance) lol 😀
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I'm trying man, but rejection after rejection doesn't make it any easier
 
Thelonelyarab said:
Yeah, I feel lucky to have an interview with them as well. I've been complete with them since August 15th, and I just recently was offered the interview.
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Was your application put on hold before getting the ii?
 
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Just to play devil's advocate here but maybe underdog threads should list race. I mean looking at the matriculant averages there are differences among each race that should be noted.
 
serenade said:
Yah, one went decent. One was a catastrophe that informed me that the entire premise of applying to said school was worthless and I genuinely prayed that I ouldn't get accepteve youd. One was ok. And the last one was good but only for me.
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Have you been accepted serenade?
 
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Hi there!

Im an underdog and super nontraditional too, so I was amazed at how informative this thread was.

BS in Finance
MBA in Investment Management
Currently a trader at a hedge fund in NYC
sGPA/cGPA/MCAT: 3.1/3.4/25

Just got accepted to LECOM SH and have an interview at Touro NV in Feb. Awaiting feedback from NY schools so I can stay close to home though.

Good luck to everyone! This thread is really inspirational🙂
 
CSqueed said:
Next year applicants should make their underdog list like <3.1 GPAs and <23 MCAT. None of this 35(15/5/15) MCAT = underdog BS.
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I think anyone with 3.00+/3.00+/27+ is no UD.

Also...Touro-NV seems to offer interview to almost everybody that meets their minimum criteria (3.00/3.00/25).
 
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user3 said:
I think anyone with 3.00+/3.00+/27+ is no UD.

Also...Touro-NV seems to offer interview to almost everybody that meets their minimum criteria (3.00/3.00/25).
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It's because so many people turn down their offer of admission since 2 week window for $2000 seat is almost criminal.

On a side note, who the **** let Anicetus onto this list?
 
CSqueed said:
It's because so many people turn down their offer of admission since 2 week window for $2000 seat is almost criminal.

On a side note, who the **** let Anicetus onto this list?
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I did mostly because I was curious how a 6 would do. Evidently good...
 
serenade said:
I did mostly because I was curious how a 6 would do. Evidently good...
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Good isn't the right word.

According to the information he posted, he got into ALL the DO schools he was invited to.

Anicetus 3.75 | 3.6 | 31Q (14/6/11) | ATSU-SOMA, AZCOM, DMU-COM, LECOM-E, LECOM-B, Touro-CA, WesternU-COMP | ATSU-SOMA, AZCOM, DMU-COM, LECOM-E, LECOM-B, Touro-CA, WesternU-COMP
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Anyone who has interviewed at a couple of those schools knows how different they are in terms of mission and values.

I spoke to him through PM a few times and he had definitely done his homework on how to interview.
 
CSqueed said:
It's because so many people turn down their offer of admission since 2 week window for $2000 seat is almost criminal.

On a side note, who the **** let Anicetus onto this list?
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Anicetus was actually accepted to an MD program at one of the SUNY's (I believe). The 6 vr was no issue.

Next year's UD thread needs to be seriously revamped. No one with 3.00/3.00/27+, no one with 3.20/3.20/25+, no one with 3.30/3.30/24+, and no one with 3.50/3.50/23+ should be allowed membership. Even these guidelines are somewhat generous.

If you applied to 20 schools and got 0-2 interviews, then you can say you are an UD. If you have interviews coming out of year ears, PLEASE do not claim UD status no matter how bad you think your stats are.

Edit: If you meet the above criteria but have below 7 in BS, then you can (albeit, uncertainly) claim UD status. If you have below 5 in VR or PS but meet above criteria you can (albeit, uncertainly) claim UD status.
 
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user3 said:
Anicetus was actually accepted to an MD program at one of the SUNY's (I believe). The 6 vr was no issue.

Next year's UD thread needs to be seriously revamped. No one with 3.00/3.00/27+, no one with 3.20/3.20/25+, no one with 3.30/3.30/24+, and no one with 3.50/3.50/23+ should be allowed membership. Even these guidelines are somewhat generous.

If you applied to 20 schools and got 0-2 interviews, then you can say you are an UD. If you have interviews coming out of year ears, PLEASE do not claim UD status no matter how bad you think your stats are.
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I remember seeing the guidelines on previous post by 'temp101' and I think your and his/her guidelines are more in line with being an underdog applicant.
 
VinceViegel said:
If you have less than 3.1 and 23 MCAT, you shouldn't even be applying in the first place...
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I disagree, they might have a shot at schools like LUCOM, LMU, KYCOM, PNWU, or WVSOM. (although KYCOM and PNWU are a bit regional).
 
VinceViegel said:
What were his guidelines?
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That was temp101 guidelines, which are good IMO.

1) If you MCAT is 28+ and your c/sGPA are 3.0+, you are NOT an underdog due to many new schools opening these days
2) For people with low cGPA and high sGPA (i.e 3.1 cGPA and 3.5+ sGPA), you should average them out.
3) Applicants with 3.2+ c/sGPA and 26+ MCAT are NOT underdogs
4) URM AA with 3.0+ c/sGPA and 24+ MCAT are NOT underdogs
5) People with high c/sGPA 3.7+ and MCAT 23-24 are NOT due to reason given on # 1
6) You reserve some discretion on stats you will consider as being underdog stats.
These would have been my criteria if I was the one doing the underdog thread next cycle.
 
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Underdog accepted today at CUSOM! 3.53 cum, 3.47 science, 25 MCAT. Amazing school. Feeling very privileged to have been given this opportunity.
 
BestDoctorEver said:
That was temp101 guidelines, which are good IMO.

Let me suggest some criteria:
1) If you MCAT is 28+ and your c/sGPA are 3.0+, you are NOT an underdog due to many new schools opening these days
2) For people with low cGPA and high sGPA (i.e 3.1 cGPA and 3.5+ sGPA), you should average them out.
3) Applicants with 3.2+ c/sGPA and 26+ MCAT are NOT underdogs
4) URM AA with 3.0+ c/sGPA and 24+ MCAT are NOT underdogs
5) People with high c/sGPA 3.7+ and MCAT 23-24 are NOT due to reason given on # 1
6) You reserve some discretion on stats you will consider as being underdog stats.
These would have been my criteria if I was the one doing the underdog thread next cycle.
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I agree with this
 
chizledfrmstone said:
Why not just have a Google spreadsheet that 4-5 people can edit so the whole effort isn't placed on 1 person?
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Actually, that's a brilliant idea. Better more one that has a cache and is self enterable ( i.e you can enter your own information, but if you decide to delete it I can easily return all information).
I'll let one of you wizards of the computer box figure this out next year.
 
user3 said:
Next year's UD thread needs to be seriously revamped. No one with 3.00/3.00/27+, no one with 3.20/3.20/25+, no one with 3.30/3.30/24+, and no one with 3.50/3.50/23+ should be allowed membership. Even these guidelines are somewhat generous.
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If you are able to find the original thread from 3 years ago back in the archives somewhere we had a "score" based on your MCAT and sGPA. If you were over a particular value, you weren't considered an underdog.

As for AZCOM, someone mentioned earlier they were surprised someone with a 22 got an interview, it's not uncommon. There are a number of people in my class who had a poor MCAT but a strong application otherwise. Likewise, there are those like me who had a very poor GPA and a "good" MCAT that were accepted. I think I may legitimately have had the worst entrance GPA in my class... Did perfectly fine through 3 years though.

Anyway, here's to the "true" underdogs. Congrats to all of you that got in.

-Signed 2.8//33
 
Again, arbitrary standards are arbitrary..
If we go with user3 then everyone with a 3.0/23 is not an underdog and has a 100% chance of becoming a DO.

My original view? Have stats equal or below the average rejected applicant.

My current view? If you think you're an underdog then go ahead and join the club. Byob yo.
 
Formula:
MCAT/2 + sGPA*10 = Applicant Score

(The "sGPA" here is your science GPA)

The average applicant (according to the 2009 matriculant data: 25.49 MCAT, 3.25sGPA) will then have their "applicant score" as 45.25, as per the formula: (25.49/2) + (3.25*10) = 45.25

The average matriculant (according to the 2009 matriculant data: 26.19 MCAT, 3.35sGPA) will then have their "applicant score" as 46.60, as per the formula: (26.19/2) + (3.35*10) = 46.60
 
But I think outliers such as race can be applied here too. I mean look at the stats, there are obvious discrepancies between them
 
Bad arbitrary formulas are bad.

You're essentially saying that Mcat score is worth 1/4th of sgpa.

Even the LizzyM ie gpa x 10 + Mcat has issues. But your formula is laughably awful.

Regardless as I said, you boys have fun in 4 months. I'll be arriving drunk.
 
Telekinesis said:
But I think outliers such as race can be applied here too. I mean look at the stats, there are obvious discrepancies between them
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There's plenty of ways for you to quantify the difference and create an equation to account for anything under the sun.
There's probably a good equation that can be applied to 95% of applicants as well.

But chances are people will still expect to be in the 5%.
 
serenade said:
There's plenty of ways for you to quantify the difference and create an equation to account for anything under the sun.
There's probably a good equation that can be applied to 95% of applicants as well.

But chances are people will still expect to be in the 5%.
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Agreed.
 
serenade said:
Bad arbitrary formulas are bad.

You're essentially saying that Mcat score is worth 1/4th of sgpa.

Even the LizzyM ie gpa x 10 + Mcat has issues. But your formula is laughably awful.

Regardless as I said, you boys have fun in 4 months. I'll be arriving drunk.
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Hey I didn't create it @DbDan did
 
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