2013-2014 Underdawgs Thread ( Lets get it)

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beweezy said:
Rejected everywhere, **** this I'm gonna get my player haters degree (phd) and teach. Good luck to everyone else who are waiting for a positive response. Can't believe I just spent all that money and all that time for absolutely nothing. What a crock of ****!
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I'm sorry this cycle didn't work out for you, but I wanted to just point out one thing. Your science GPA is awesome, which I'm sure you know. Your 23 MCAT hurt you, which I'm sure you know. But what REALLY killed you was applying late October. I'm sorry but that's on you, man. If you spent more than 10 minutes on this site, you'd know what a gamble you took applying that late combined with a low MCAT.

If you really want this, try again. Submit for verification June 1 and I bet you'll get some love.
 
Recently accepted and 2nd time applying:

cGPA: 3.34
sGPA: 3.36
MCAT: 29 (11PS, 8V, 10BS)

Applied to 18 schools.
Interviewed: MUCOM, TouroCOM-NY, COMP-NW, TUN, CUSOM
Wait listed: MUCOM
Accepted: TUN

🙂
 
cisf0rcalvin said:
Recently accepted and 2nd time applying:

cGPA: 3.34
sGPA: 3.36
MCAT: 29 (11PS, 8V, 10BS)

Applied to 18 schools.
Interviewed: MUCOM, TouroCOM-NY, COMP-NW, TUN, CUSOM
Wait listed: MUCOM
Accepted: TUN

🙂
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Congrats!

Were your stats the same when you applied the first time?
 
Joining the club!

Cumulative GPA 2.770
Science GPA 2.612
MCAT 30


So yeah not exactly a reliable pick for ad coms, but who knows. I can't get into any SMP or Post-Bacc programs affiliated with MD programs, and may even struggle to get into a good DO Post-Bacc program (LECOM). I'm considering pursuing a 2nd Bachelor's, let me know what you guys think!
 
sunealoneal said:
Joining the club!

Cumulative GPA 2.770
Science GPA 2.612
MCAT 30


So yeah not exactly a reliable pick for ad coms, but who knows. I can't get into any SMP or Post-Bacc programs affiliated with MD programs, and may even struggle to get into a good DO Post-Bacc program (LECOM). I'm considering pursuing a 2nd Bachelor's, let me know what you guys think!
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Retake a bunch of classes and get 3.0+
 
sunealoneal said:
Joining the club!

Cumulative GPA 2.770
Science GPA 2.612
MCAT 30


So yeah not exactly a reliable pick for ad coms, but who knows. I can't get into any SMP or Post-Bacc programs affiliated with MD programs, and may even struggle to get into a good DO Post-Bacc program (LECOM). I'm considering pursuing a 2nd Bachelor's, let me know what you guys think!
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Yeah, without a GPA starting with a 3, you're really not going to have a chance at all.
You HAVE to do some serious retakes.
Keep in mind that the minimum standard for most schools accepting a grade is C, so any C- or below HAS to be retaken.
The 2nd bachelors is your call...lot of variables to consider.
 
chizledfrmstone said:
Retake a bunch of classes and get 3.0+
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DocWinter said:
Yeah, without a GPA starting with a 3, you're really not going to have a chance at all.
You HAVE to do some serious retakes.
Keep in mind that the minimum standard for most schools accepting a grade is C, so any C- or below HAS to be retaken.
The 2nd bachelors is your call...lot of variables to consider.
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Sounds "easy" enough. Thanks guys!
 
sunealoneal said:
Joining the club!

Cumulative GPA 2.770
Science GPA 2.612
MCAT 30


So yeah not exactly a reliable pick for ad coms, but who knows. I can't get into any SMP or Post-Bacc programs affiliated with MD programs, and may even struggle to get into a good DO Post-Bacc program (LECOM). I'm considering pursuing a 2nd Bachelor's, let me know what you guys think!
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Shadow a podiatrist. Schooling is similar and you may find you like it!
 
WesternRedCedar said:
OK. Can't wait for the new thread! Hope it doesn't get even more competitive because of the merger..
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I don't think it'll be that sudden. When they have an implementation date, maybe competition comes. I predict that when or if it comes it'll be later in the cycle when people lose hope on their precious MD application.
 
jackzack87 said:
As the UD thread is dying down, I'm posting near the end so others in years to come can see when they come here.

I was accepted with a 25 MCAT, 3.0s & 3.36c.

You won't see my username at the 1st page, the one with every other persons GPA and MCAT, actually. The person who oversaw the thread refused to add me to the underdog thread. Downplayed my numbers as hopeless. I was told that he or she wouldn't "sugar coat" things, but that I was up for nothing but rejection. And then rejected me from the UD thread. Yup, just wouldn't put my name up there. True story, page 25.

I was accepted.

I was accepted not just for academics. I was accepted because my application had more than just gobs of amazing statistics.
I was accepted because of my volunteer experiences. As a firefighter, an EMT, a humanitarian aid coordinator, a red cross team member, and many, many more things.
I was accepted because I believed the admissions committee could see that I am a person who has compassion and desire to study humanity.
I was accepted because of life experience. I'm not kid; I'm older than the average applicant. I've been in the workplace for a long time. I know real life. And it shows.
I was accepted because of things that are personal, but had you read my personal statement, you'd want to meet me and see if it's more than just an amazing story.

The person who rejected me from the UD thread has better statistics than I, and I truly do hope their goals are fulfilled this cycle. But to my knowledge, they, and many others with very good numbers, better than mine, were not accepted yet this cycle for the privilege of becoming a physician in the class of 2018.

We are underdogs. Underdogs have heart, they are the Rocky Balboas of the world. They don't have the best numbers or the greatest projections. But, they hang in there with the rest and the best. They just want a shot in the ring. There is no replacement for grades. But there is more to it than grades alone.

My very sincere best wishes to all others who are still waiting for that phone call with the good news. Hope to see you all in 2018 with a white coat.
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Congrats!
 
jackzack87 said:
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I was accepted with a 25 MCAT, 3.0s & 3.36c.

You won't see my username at the 1st page, the one with every other persons GPA and MCAT, actually. The person who oversaw the thread refused to add me to the underdog thread. Downplayed my numbers as hopeless. I was told that he or she wouldn't "sugar coat" things, but that I was up for nothing but rejection. And then rejected me from the UD thread. Yup, just wouldn't put my name up there. True story, page 25.

I was accepted.
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I'm happy for you and congrats on your acceptance.

In all fairness your original MCAT was a 22. If you initially had a 25, no one would have doubted your success.
 
jackzack87 said:
As the UD thread is dying down, I'm posting near the end so others in years to come can see when they come here.

I was accepted with a 25 MCAT, 3.0s & 3.36c.

You won't see my username at the 1st page, the one with every other persons GPA and MCAT, actually. The person who oversaw the thread refused to add me to the underdog thread. Downplayed my numbers as hopeless. I was told that he or she wouldn't "sugar coat" things, but that I was up for nothing but rejection. And then rejected me from the UD thread. Yup, just wouldn't put my name up there. True story, page 25.

I was accepted.

I was accepted not just for academics. I was accepted because my application had more than just gobs of amazing statistics.
I was accepted because of my volunteer experiences. As a firefighter, an EMT, a humanitarian aid coordinator, a red cross team member, and many, many more things.
I was accepted because I believed the admissions committee could see that I am a person who has compassion and desire to study humanity.
I was accepted because of life experience. I'm not kid; I'm older than the average applicant. I've been in the workplace for a long time. I know real life. And it shows.
I was accepted because of things that are personal, but had you read my personal statement, you'd want to meet me and see if it's more than just an amazing story.

The person who rejected me from the UD thread has better statistics than I, and I truly do hope their goals are fulfilled this cycle. But to my knowledge, they, and many others with very good numbers, better than mine, were not accepted yet this cycle for the privilege of becoming a physician in the class of 2018.

We are underdogs. Underdogs have heart, they are the Rocky Balboas of the world. They don't have the best numbers or the greatest projections. But, they hang in there with the rest and the best. They just want a shot in the ring. There is no replacement for grades. But there is more to it than grades alone.

My very sincere best wishes to all others who are still waiting for that phone call with the good news. Hope to see you all in 2018 with a white coat.
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chizledfrmstone said:
I'm happy for you and congrats on your acceptance.

In all fairness your original MCAT was a 22. If you initially had a 25, no one would have doubted your success.
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I want both Serenade and jackzack87 to answer to these accusations. I can't imagine Serenade putting someone down so low that he won't add him to the UD list when people are in there with worse stats. I also want to know if jackzack87 is manipulating the story by hiding the fact that he started with a 22.
 
AlbinoHawk DO said:
I want both Serenade and jackzack87 to answer to these accusations. I can't imagine Serenade putting someone down so low that he won't add him to the UD list when people are in there with worse stats. I also want to know if jackzack87 is manipulating the story by hiding the fact that he started with a 22.
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Go to page 25. He originally had a 22 MCAT. Serenade and Touchpause asked him to retake or sit this cycle out.

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk
 
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jackzack87 said:
Add me

DO applicant

3.36 cGPA
3.00 sGPA
22 MCAT 8/8/6
MCAT retake Sept 7
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serenade said:
What's your test average so far? Because it may be wise to just sit out this year if you're scoring less than 28.
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FutureDO22 said:
Concur. You would need at least a 26 for a shot at DO. Normally it is wise to be scoring about 2 points above your target score before a retake. I wish you the best of luck though. I was an underdog last year, so I know it can seem insurmountable at times. But with patience and hard work it can definitely be done!
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touchpause13 said:
With a 26 mcat ud b in waitlist city imo. Shoot for a 28 or higher to be competitive.
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Also I believe it was me that went back and compiled the list at that time and I didn't add jack because I didn't see an updated MCAT. It wasn't out of any spite, I just didn't want to have outdated information.
 
AlbinoHawk DO said:
I want both Serenade and jackzack87 to answer to these accusations. I can't imagine Serenade putting someone down so low that he won't add him to the UD list when people are in there with worse stats. I also want to know if jackzack87 is manipulating the story by hiding the fact that he started with a 22.
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I legit don't remember this person. Maybe I forgot to add them. Though pretty sure I added in everyone that I came across.

And yah... A 3.0/22 ain't gonna cut it. But again, no ill will towards ya. Sorry if you felt that I had a personal vendetta against you.
 
So... That was interesting...

I mean, congrats and no hard feelings. And happy you took our advice and had an enriching cycle.
 
An ii with a 3.0 science and 22? Well, it is kind of hard to tell whether your EC's made the difference or if it was the fact it was such a new school and didn't have as strong an applicant pool.
 
jackzack87 said:
Right, not intending to give misinformation. As it had said, I had a retake in progress. I actually had an interview invite with the 22, before a retake. I did receive a 25 MCAT after that; if it helped towards the acceptance, I'll never know.


Touch, I did not know you were involved with data. I'd rather focus on the fact that there is much more to an application process and evaluation than a GPA and MCAT, which has been lost in the dictation of this thread. I would think it more than a slip through the cracks that someone mentions twice they want to be added to the list, to share in the pursuit of a goal, but why would someone whose request to be added was pushed back and disregarded. give "updated information." C'mon, man...
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You posted in the peak of the cycle when everyone was extremely busy. We missed you, I missed more than a handful of people.
It has nothing to do with a vendetta against low-stats people, and more with the fact that no thread is perfect.

Getting back to your case. The reality is that entry stats and how close you are to them is an enormously big part of the deal. And a failed application cycle is painful especially when you can use that money or improving your app.
Personally? I regret not taking my time and taking the GRE and doing a few years in grad school while also retaking the Mcat. Because I did feel young this cycle and in many cases many times interviewers finished up interviewing people who had worked research and public health jobs for a long time. And that's the nature of the cycle. Who knows what got you in, but I stand firm on my advice because there were easily ways for things to go wrong.
So if you want to consider us the bad guys. Go ahead.


And in my circumstances. Life has a way of working our.
 
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user3 said:
An ii with a 3.0 science and 22? Well, it is kind of hard to tell whether your EC's made the difference or if it was the fact it was such a new school and didn't have as strong an applicant pool.
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If there's indication of a retake that will influence the committee undoubtedly .
 
user3 said:
Well, I think their case shows that numbers-wise there isn't really a "death range" that will completely preclude you from interviews (or the real death range is far lower than we think). There are schools that will look past even VERY low stats if the complement of the application is unique, interesting, etc.
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Eh, I give up on trying to understand this stuff. I'm pretty sure half these schools pin names on a wall and throw 10 darts out a week.
 
FWIW, MSUCOM straight up says in their mission that they encourage you to take the MCAT as many times as you want because they like to see "perseverance". I think people on here definitely overestimate how much the committee cares if you retake the MCAT. Doing worse the second time round may raise some eyebrows, though. Otherwise, in my humble opinion, I don't think anyone really cares.
 
I don't know if this is an appropriate place, but since I've been with you all during this entire process, I'm more comfortable in this part of the forum than anywhere else.

Anyways, I guess this could be major UD-ness, given my scores, but I just received word (about 2 hours ago) that I was accepted to my in-state MD school. I'm pretty speechless right now. Now comes the hard choices...
 
embracepeace said:
I don't know if this is an appropriate place, but since I've been with you all during this entire process, I'm more comfortable in this part of the forum than anywhere else.

Anyways, I guess this could be major UD-ness, given my scores, but I just received word (about 2 hours ago) that I was accepted to my in-state MD school. I'm pretty speechless right now. Now comes the hard choices...
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What is there to think about? This is not charity. Go to the best school with the cheapest cost.
 
embracepeace said:
I don't know if this is an appropriate place, but since I've been with you all during this entire process, I'm more comfortable in this part of the forum than anywhere else.

Anyways, I guess this could be major UD-ness, given my scores, but I just received word (about 2 hours ago) that I was accepted to my in-state MD school. I'm pretty speechless right now. Now comes the hard choices...
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Looks like MUCOM & VCOM lost a deposit. haha....

One more notch up the MUCOM waitlist I go lol...
 
This is to give hope for future applicants

Undergrad 3.25 cGPA, 2.75 sGPA, 27 MCAT (10V, 9BS 8PS)
Postbac GPA 3.6

Applied: LECOM, MSUCOM (IS applicant)
Accepted: LECOM (conditional with 3.0 postboc), MSUCOM
Attending: MSUCOM

MSUCOM said they were impressed with the upward trend represented in my postbac GPA. Also have a good amount of volunteer hours.
 
Ok not gonna try and troll here or incite a flame war but according to the latest statistics, AA matriculants have a 3.08/3.30 and a 22.85 MCAT. Does this mean an AA applicant with a 3.0/3.0/25 is not an underdog?
 
Telekinesis said:
Ok not gonna try and troll here or incite a flame water but according to the latest statistics AA matriculants have a 3.08/3.30 and a 22.85 MCAT. Does this mean an AA applicant with a 3.0/3.0/25 is not an underdog?
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I think everyone agrees that URMs require lower admission stats. The definition of UD is so subjective because it can depend on a person's race, financial background and state of residency.
 
deuceof2 said:
This is to give hope for future applicants

Undergrad 3.25 cGPA, 2.75 sGPA, 27 MCAT (10V, 9BS 8PS)
Postbac GPA 3.6

Applied: LECOM, MSUCOM (IS applicant)
Accepted: LECOM (conditional with 3.0 postboc), MSUCOM
Attending: MSUCOM

MSUCOM said they were impressed with the upward trend represented in my postbac GPA. Also have a good amount of volunteer hours.
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when were you accepted to MSUCOM? and how many credits of post-bac?
 
deuceof2 said:
This is to give hope for future applicants

Undergrad 3.25 cGPA, 2.75 sGPA, 27 MCAT (10V, 9BS 8PS)
Postbac GPA 3.6

Applied: LECOM, MSUCOM (IS applicant)
Accepted: LECOM (conditional with 3.0 postboc), MSUCOM
Attending: MSUCOM

MSUCOM said they were impressed with the upward trend represented in my postbac GPA. Also have a good amount of volunteer hours.
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question:
nevermind answered my own question

congrats!
 
Not sure if this is too UD or not, but hopefully will give some hope to anyone in a similar situation!...

Accepted at VCOM-CC
24 MCAT - 10 10 4 (4 verbal)
cGPA 3.32
sGPA around 3.65

best of luck to all those out there.. Didn't think i'd get any love applying in late october with a 4 in verbal, but things turned out ok in the end!
 
Jamie407 said:
Not sure if this is too UD or not, but hopefully will give some hope to anyone in a similar situation!...

Accepted at VCOM-CC
24 MCAT - 10 10 4 (4 verbal)
cGPA 3.32
sGPA around 3.65

best of luck to all those out there.. Didn't think i'd get any love applying in late october with a 4 in verbal, but things turned out ok in the end!
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Did your VR score come up during the interview? Are you ESL?
 
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