2017 - 2018 Anesthesiology Residency Application Thread

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  1. repititionition

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    Somebody was going to do it...

    A question: which programs are known for high-quality didactics and/or simulation? I've heard about Hopkins' "College Days" but there must be other notables.
     
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  3. cluelessmedstudent411

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    Anyone else around that's applying gas this year?

    Can someone make an excel sheet like last year? I am willing to help.
     
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    Yeah, I second this.
     
  5. The Duck Knows

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    I don't know if the guy/girl who's run it the last few years is going to do it this year. If not, I'd be willing
     
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    if you do, please use google forms so that people can only add -- last year's had a ridiculous amount of vandalism and deletion
     
  7. The Duck Knows

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    I was planning on doing that for the main data page. I think last year it was messed up because people sorted columns improperly. What other tabs should I use forms for? Interview Impressions? Or just all of them?
     
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    #7 The Duck Knows, Aug 15, 2017
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    Looks good, man! Appreciate you taking the time to make this excel sheet.

    How many programs are there? There are more than 132, no?
     
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  10. cluelessmedstudent411

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    @The Duck Knows , Thank you for setting this up! Really appreciate it. If you need help managing it, I would be willing to help.
     
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    I'm not sure. I just copied and pasted last years. If anyone sees one that's missing, it's a quick fix.
     
  12. The Duck Knows

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    I'll probably take you up on that. Thanks!
     
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    I think it's better to just work in the or and read/listen to podcasts/look things up than have some boring lecturer drone at you while you fall asleep
     
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    Jed Wolpaw's podcast is really good to listen to.
     
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    One thing that I think would be helpful is a tab for if a program offers moonlighting or not... It was a pain reading through all the IV impressions to attempt to figure out if a program has moonlighting.
     
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  17. The Duck Knows

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    Yeah we could add that. Make it a bit more specific than last years.
     
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    Im curious, did anyone here apply AOA anesthesiology programs? I'm wondering if interviews have gone out yet.
     
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    Does anyone know if there are programs other than Wake Forest that absolutely require a step 2 ck score to be granted an interview?
     
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    real talk, what top programs are worth applying to if you are a completely average applicant? Just those within your own region?
     
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    So is the new Brown/RI program going to accept applicants this year?
     
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    I'm not your SDN candidate. Just a DO with below average step 1 and step 2 scores trying to match. Please be kind this match cycle. Please
     
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    Submitting mine tonight.
     
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    Wait what?
     
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    Seems like a waste of time. Hopkins isn't worth this headache
     
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    Unless you want to be the guinea pug for the 6 year combined EM/Anesthesia residency they're starting! *sarcasm*
     
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    Thanks for making this. The doc from last year has been really helpful. Good luck everyone.
     
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    How does one know the number of prelim IM or transitional year programs to apply to? I don't want to waste a bunch of money on the application fees and interview expenses, but also want to avoid the possibility of being forced to scramble into a prelim surgery hell year.
     
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    My dean told me to apply to 20 prelim IM programs and go on 6-7 of those interviews to be safe. I have pretty average grades. If you apply to surgery prelim, you can apply to less programs and save money but have to do a surgery prelim year (which sucks)...
     
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    Some folks are applying to more programs than I expected.
     
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    If i apply to categorical positions all over the midwest, what transitional places do I apply? Just match the cities? Can i apply to the TY positions after getting invites for anesthesia?
     
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    Do any programs require 4 LORs?
     
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    Just finished looking, only southwestern something (for IMGs only, otherwise 3). But I can't apply there because they want 1 year of US experience anyways. There were a couple of websites I could no open though, so there could be more.
     
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    None that I've found. Here are the minimum LOR requirements listed by state for just about every program that isn't Ivy League or located in California, New York City, Miami, Dallas, Chicago or Boston. Albany was the only one I saw with a maximum of 3.

    Alabama At least 2
    Arkansas No requirements?
    Loma Linda ?
    Colorado ?
    U of Florida 3 letters
    Medical College of Georgia 3 letters
    Iowa 3 letters
    Indiana 3 or 4
    U of Kansas (KC) 3 letters
    U of Kansas (Wichita) 3 letters, CV
    U of Kentucky (Lexington) 3 letters, ERAS CV
    U of Louisville 3 letters
    LSU Shreveport 3 letters
    Ochsner at least 3
    Tulane at least 3
    LSU New Orleans 3 letters
    Lahey at least 3
    UMMS Baystate 3 letters
    U of Mass 3 letters
    Maryland 2 letters
    Maine 3 letters
    Wayne State 3 letters
    William Beaumont 3 letters
    U of Michigan 3 letters
    Henry Ford ?
    Detroit Medical Center ?
    U of Minnesota 3 letters
    U of Missouri Columbia 3 letters
    Washington University/ B-JH Missouri 3 letters
    U of Missouri Kansas City ?
    St. Louis University 3 letters
    Mississippi 3 letters
    U of North Carolina ?
    Wake Forest 3 letters
    Nebraska 3 letters
    Mary Hitchcock New Hampshire 3 letters
    New Mexico 3 letters
    U of Rochester ?
    Buffalo ?
    SUNY Upstate 3 letters
    Albany Medical Center Max 3, 2 must be anes
    Doctors Hospital Ohio ?
    Ohio State Columbus 3 letters
    Cincinnati 3 letters
    Case Western/Cleveland Clinic 3 letters
    U of Toledo 2 letters
    Case Western Metrohealth no requirement
    Oklahoma no requirement
    Oregon 3 letters
    Geisinger Danville PA 3 letters
    Penn State Hershey 3 letters
    Drexel 3 letters
    U of Pennsylvania ?
    Thomas Jefferson 2 letters
    UPMC Pittsburgh 3 letters
    Temple 2 letters
    Allegheny Health Pittsburgh 3 letters
    South Carolina 3 letters
    Tennessee Knoxville at least 3
    U of Texas Galveston ?
    Texas Tech Lubbock 3 letters
    U of Texas San Antonio ?
    Texas A&M 3 letters
    Baylor minimum 3
    U of Texas Houston ?
    U of Utah minimum 3
    U of Virginia Charlottesville 3 letters
    VCU Richmond ?
    Vermont at least 3
    Virginia Mason Seattle minimum 3
    U of Washington Seattle minimum 3
    U of Wisconsin Madison ?
    Medical College of Wisconsin Milwaukee 3 letters, 2 anes
    West Virginia 3 letters
     
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    Probably a stupid question, but my plan was to just send 4 letters to everyone. But as it turns out, only a few programs specifically say "minimum 3 letters" or "3-4 letters." Most list "3 letters of recommendation" as an application requirement, and a few programs actually say 2 letters. Would sending 4 letters to a program that specifically says 3 letters be poor form?
     
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    Can anyone post the link to last year's spreadsheet? I'm having a hard time finding it.


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    I used 4 for all the programs I applied to last cycle. Didn't seem to cause any problems.
     
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    I'm applying AOA. Sent in applications to all the AOA programs still in that match (what-7? or 8?!). Haven't heard anything from any of them. Makes me feel a little better that you seemingly haven't either!
     
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    Hey, nope I haven't heard anything yet either. I have a friend applying who heard from (dont know exactly how many) but only places he did an away yet.
     
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    I have a question for those applying.

    When you're applying to preliminary IM or preliminary surgery the programs you're applying to understand that you want anesthesia, right? Do we have to change our letters or personal statement to focus more toward whichever preliminary we plan on applying to?

    So if I am applying for a preliminary IM year should I have my personal statement still be directed for anesthesia or should it be for Internal Medicine? Same question applies to if I want to apply for a surgery preliminary.
     
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    Programs know if you're applying for preliminary or transitional years that you have goals that don't consist of surgery or IM. Therefore it isn't necessary to write a personal statement directed towards internal medicine or surgery. Both by personal statements consists of describing why I want to become an anesthesiologist. The only difference in my personal statements is the end. I state something along the lines of looking forward to training in your program to build a fundamental medical background to make me a better anesthesiologist. Blah Blah Blah, something like that. Keep it simple, try not to overthink it or over analyze it.
     
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    They all shutting down, likely will all be competitive and will favor those who did auditions.
     
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    I used the same personal statement except instead of anesthesiology I wrote "preliminary medicine year"
     
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    Heavily research and investigate these few programs as all AOA programs must convert to ACGME in the next few years. If they don't have a concrete game plan in place then I'd think twice before heading there.
     
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    University of Kentucky has a great "podcast" series on YouTube. Look them up. They assign the podcasts so that actual lectures can be interactive and less of the 'just listening to someone lecture.'
     
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    I've already started obsessively checking my email :(
     
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    Is there anyone here who is privy to the workings of how a residency program operates? What happens if I wait till September 29th to apply instead of doing it on September 15th?
    I am curious how your chances start to decrease with every passing day you don't apply. I did my cores here in Michigan and the associate program director told a buddy of mine not to worry because they don't even bother looking at your application until October 15th and won't even offer interviews until beginning of November. Is this common practice among a majority of programs?
     
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    Just knuckle down and do it today. If you've already gotten your personal statement and CV done to give to LOR writers the rest of the application won't take all that long. At least send your application today to all the programs you know you definitely want to go to, and decide on the rest later. Anecdotally, one of the CA2s I just worked with switched from OB/GYN to gas and didn't apply to any anesthesiology programs until early November and still matched, but why take the risk?
     
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    Right, I understand. The issue that I am facing is my STEP 2CK score doesn't come for another 2 weeks.
    The application in front of me is complete in regard to CV, personal statements, LORs, etc. I just don't want to apply without that score. I want it to be 'more' complete when programs open the file.
     
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    I sent my application in about 5 days late and it made no difference in the interviews I got. Two weeks is a bit long as some programs will have sent out first round interviews by then (i.e. NYU). In my experience most of the top tier and California programs tend to hold back and wait a little bit longer (you can look at previous years spreadsheets to see when people first got interviews), but it's always a risk. If I were you I would send in my app and then if you get step 2 back and it's a good score you can send the pc an update email with that information. That's also a way for you to "check-in" with them.
     
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