2017-2018 Interview Thread -- Radiology

[cyberchicken001]

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hopefully next year ≠ 2006 either.

Sorry for being ignorant - was 2006 like the peak of Radiology competitiveness?

 

[ModelOD]

I think a lot of it had to do with my letters- I have a couple great ones written by leaders in the field which I think may have helped me. But as far as what specific programs, I'll update these after the match- want to maintain anonymity...

Which top tier programs? Wonder if some programs are starting to interview DOs when not in the past. Would be good to know for future DOs.

If a DO applicant got 18 interviews with 5 being top tier, this clearly isn’t gonna be another repeat of 2006.

 

[SpartanWolverine]

I'll say that as a DO with even moderate to low board scores I've been very, very happy with the response I've had. Sure, no "top-tier" programs (granted, I applied to very few) but I expect MD candidates with similar numbers would have had a similar or just slightly better response. Unfortunately sounds like IMG/FMG candidates are having a very difficult time potentially to the benefit of DO applicants. Regional biases are also playing heavily into my favor in a DO/residency-dense area.

 

[Muncus]

I'll say that as a DO with even moderate to low board scores I've been very, very happy with the response I've had. Sure, no "top-tier" programs (granted, I applied to very few) but I expect MD candidates with similar numbers would have had a similar or just slightly better response. Unfortunately sounds like IMG/FMG candidates are having a very difficult time potentially to the benefit of DO applicants. Regional biases are also playing heavily into my favor in a DO/residency-dense area.

The FMG struggle is real

 

[spruntable]

From the IR/DR side:
Step 260/258
Top quintile on Dean's letter but not AOA
Top ten MD school in Midwest
High impact non-rads research
Applied 30/30
11 IR invites (2 safety 2 midrange 7 top tier)
4 DR w/o IR (3 top tier 1 mid)

 

[jaksmith]

What just happened to the Google docs spreadsheet?

 

[raldulai]

I lost access to the excelsheet too, not sure what happened

 

[Sloosha]

oh my god. Did we all get played!?

 

[Bobcat18]

Harambe played us like a fool

oh my god. Did we all get played!?

 

[spruntable]

Harambe is actually Patrick Fritz and it's down for scheduled maintenance

 

[Haziqz]

4th year DO
Step 1: 236
Step 2: 253
Top 25% in class
Applied to ~70 some programs, have received 4 rad interviews so far, 5 rejections, no waitlist offers.
Applied to ~40 TY/Prelim med programs with 5 interviews.... Is it looking like a tough match for me?

 

[dahliadahlia123]

Adding UC Davis

Alabama
University of South Alabama (10/2): 10/24, 10/26, 11/02, 11/14, 11/16, 12/07, 12/14, 12/19
UAB DR (10/2): 10/23, 10/30, 11/03, 11/13, 11/20, 12/04, 12/08

Arizona
Maricopa (10/10): 11/1, 11/13, 11/15, 11/29, 12/6, 12/11, 12/13, 12/18, 1/10, 1/17
Mayo Clinic-Arizona: (9/25): 11/3, 11/7, 11/13, 11/17, 12/5, 12/8, 12/13, 12/15
St. Joseph's (10/10): 11/7, 11/9, 11/14, 11/16, 12/5, 12/7, 12/12, 12/14, 1/9, 1/11
University of Arizona DR (9/18, 9/21): 11/10, 11/17, 11/20, 12/4, 12/15, 12/18, 1/5, 1/8
University of Arizona IR (9/18): 11/13, 12/1

Arkansas
UAMS (9/22): 10/12, 10/26, 11/9, 11/16

California
Loma Linda University (9/20, 10/2): 10/17, 10/18, 11/20, 11/21, 12/4
UC Davis (10/20) - 11/13, 11/17, 12/4, 12/11, 1/19, 1/22

Colorado
University of Colorado (10/4): 12/8

Connecticut
Hartford Hospital (10/2): 11/7, 11/8, 11/14, 11/15, 12/5, 12/6, 12/12, 12/13, 1/9, 1/10, 1/11, 1/16
Norwalk Hospital (10/2): 10/18, 10/25, 11/1, 11/9, 11/15, 12/4, 12/5, 12/12, 12/14, 1/8, 1/9, 1/15, 1/16
Yale (10/4): 10/24, 10/26, 11/14, 11/16, 12/12, 12/14

Delaware
Christiana Care (10/4): 10/24, 10/26, 10/31, 11/2, 11/7, 11/9, 11/14, 11/16, 12/4, 12/6, 12/8, 12/11, 12/13, 12/15, 12/18, 12/20, 12/22, 1/9, 1/11, 1/16

District of Columbia
Georgetown (10/2) – 10/27 10/30 11/3 11/6 11/10 11/13 12/1 12/4 12/8 12/11

Florida
Aventura Medical Center (10/4). Dates: 11/9 11/14 12/5 12/7 12/12 12/14
Florida Hospital Medical Center Program (9/21): 10/16, 10/23, 10/30, 11/6, 11/20, 12/4, 12/11
Mayo Clinic - Jacksonville DR (9/25): 10/27, 11/03, 11/10, 11/17, 12/04, 12/08, 12/11, 12/15
University of Florida-Gainesville DR (9/19, 9/25): 10/17, 10/18, 10/24, 10/25, 10/31, 11/1, 11/7, 11/8, 11/14, 11/15, 12/5, 12/6, 12/12, 12/13
University of Florida- Jacksonville DR (9/19): 10/12,10/19,10/26, 11/9, 11/16, 12/7, 12/14
University of Miami (9/18): 11/20, 11/27, 12/18
University of South Florida Program (10/2): 10/31, 11/02, 11/07, 11/09, 11/13, 12/05, 12/07, 01/09, 01/11, 01/16

Georgia
Mercer (9/22): 10/2, 10/16, 10/30, 11/13, 11/20, 12/4
MCG (9/25): 10/19, 11/2, 11/9, 11/16, 12/7, 12/14, 1/4
Emory (10/10)—11/3 11/10 12/15


Illinois
Franciscan Health, Olympia Fields (10/6): 12/4, 12/6, 12/8, 1/8, 1/10, 1/12
Loyola DR (9/15): 10/27, 10/31, 11/06, 11/17, 11/22, 12/07, 12/18, 01/09
Northwestern DR (10/12): 11/2, 11/7, 11/14, 11/16, 12/7, 12/12, 1/9
Rush University Medical Center (10/14): 12/5, 12/6, 12/12, 12/13, 1/9, 1/10
University of Chicago DR (9/27, 10/5): 10/20, 10/25, 10/27, 11/10 (AM only), 11/15, 11/17 AM & PM for all
University of Chicago IR (9/28): 10/13, 10/18, 11/8 AM &PM
University of Illinois at Peoria (9/19): 10/12. 12/23, 11/2, 11/6, 11/8, 12/01, 12/04, 12/07, 12/13, 12/14, 12/21

Indiana
IU (9/21): 10/6, 10/10, 10/13, 10/24, 11/3

Kansas
University of Kansas-Wichita (9/25, 10/4): 10/24, 10/26, 10/27, 11/6, 11/7, 11/8, 11/9
University of Kansas-Kansas City (10/5): 10/17, 10/24, 11/7, 1/9, 1/16, 1/30

Kentucky
University of Kentucky (9/25): Dates TBD
University of Louisville (9/18): 10/16, 10/18, 10/23, 10/25, 10/30, 11/1

Louisiana
Ochsner Clinic Foundation (9/26): 10/21, 11/11, 12/9, 12/16, 1/6

Maine
Maine Medical Center (9/21): 10/23, 10/25, 10/26, 11/14, 11/17

Maryland
Johns Hopkins University DR (9/29): 11/7, 11/13, 11/20, 12/4, 12/11
University of Maryland (9/27): 10/17, 11/7

Massachusetts
Baystate - UMass (10/5): 11/9, 11/14, 11/16, 11/21, 12/12, 12/14, 12/21, 1/4, 1/9, 1/11
Lahey Clinic (9/29): 11/14, 11/15, 11/16, 11/17, 12/5, 12/6, 12/7, 12/8
University of Massachusetts (9/18): 10/30, 10/31, 11/6, 11/7, 11/13, 11/14, 12/4, 12/5, 12/11, 12/12, 1/8, 1/9, 1/15, 1/16
Mass Gen (10/17): 11/17, 12/7, 1/5, 1/8, 1/12, 1/16, 1/26

Michigan
Beaumont - Royal Oak (9/22/17) DR: 10/23, 10/24, 10/27, 11/6, 11/7, 11/10, 11/13, 11/16, 11/17, 12/11, 12/12, 12/15 IR: 10/26, 11/9, 11/15, 12/13
Beaumont/Oakwood - Dearborn (10/2/17): 10/23, 10/24, 10/30, 13/31, 11/06, 11/07, 11/13, 11/14, 11/20, 11/21, 11/27, 11/28, 12/04, 12/05, 12/11, 12/12
Grand Rapids Med Ed Partners (9/27): [Unknown dates].
Henry Ford Hospital (9/15/17) IR and DR (separate invites, same interview dates): 10/17/17, 11/9/17, 11/14/17, 11/16/17, 12/05/17, 12/07/17
Henry Ford Hospital (9/18/17) DR only: 10/19/17, 10/24/17, 10/26/17, 10/31/17, 11/2/17, 11/7/17
McLaren Oakland (Osteopathic; 9/26): 10/27, 11/3
St. Joseph Mercy-Oakland (9/25): [Unknown dates].
University of Michigan IR (9/25): 10/30, 11/13, 11/17, 11/20, 12/15, 1/19
University of Michigan DR (9/25): 10/16, 10/30, 11/2, 11/13, 11/17, 11/20, 12/15, 12/18, 1/19

Minnesota
University of Minnesota (9/22/17, 10/4): 10/16, 10/27, 10/30, 11/3, 11/7, 11/14. AM or PM
Mayo Clinic Rochester (10/4/2017): 10/23, 10/27, 10/30, 10/31, 11/3, 11/6, 11/7, 11/10, 11/14, 11/17, 12/4, 12/5, 12/11, 12/12, 12/18

Mississippi
University of Mississippi (9/21): 11/1, 11/8, 11/15, 12/6, 12/13, 12/20

Missouri
University of Missouri-Columbia (9/15): Call for dates.
University of Missouri-Kansas City (9/21): 10/26, 11/2, 11/9
Mallinckrodt/WashU IR/DR (10/5): 10/30, 11/6, 11/20, 12/18, 1/8, 1/17
Mallinckrodt/WashU DR (10/5): 10/23, 10/27, 11/1, 11/3, 11/13, 11/17, 12/8, 12/11, 12/15, 1/5
St Louis University (10/12), 11/2, 11/7, 11/9, 11/14. 12/5. 12/12. 12/14. 1/11. 1/16.


Nebraska
Creighton University (9/20): 10/9, 10/16, 10/23, 10/30, 11/6, 11/13, 11/20, 11/27, 12/4
University of Nebraska (9/19): 10/3, 10/6, 10/10, 10/13, 10/17, 11/10, 11/14, 12/5, 12/8

New Hampshire
Dartmouth (10/5): 10/30, 11/2, 11/6, 11/9, 11/13

New Jersey
Atlantic Health (Morristown) (10/4): 11/1, 11/8, 11/15, 11/29, 12/6, 12/13, 12/20
Monmouth Medical Center (9/27): 10/17, 10/19, 11/13, 11/14, 11/17, 12/4, 1/19, 1/22
Cooper (10/6): 11/13, 11/14, 11/15, 11/16, 12/5, 12/11, 12/12, 12/13, 1/11, 1/12, 1/16

New Mexico
University of New Mexico (9/22, 9/27): 10/10, 10/11, 10/12, 10/13, 10/16, 10/17, 10/18, 10/27, 10/30, 10/31, 11/02, 11/06, 11/09, 11/13, 11/15, 11/16, 11/17, 11/22, 12/07, 12/12, 12/13, 12/14, 12/15, 12/18, 12/21, 1/10, 1/11, 1/16, 1/17, 1/18, 1/19, 1/22, 1/23, 1/24, 1/25, 1/26, 1/29, 1/30, 1/31.

New York
Albany Medical Center IR (9/20): 11/18, 12/9
Albany Medical Center DR (9/28): 12/4, 12/5, 12/6, 12/11, 12/12, 12/13
Hofstra Northwell-Staten Island Univ (9/28): [Unknown dates].
Hofstra Northwell-School of Medicine/LIJ-Northshore (10/2): 10/11, 10/12/,11/1,11/2,11/15,12/6,12/14,1/10,1/18,1/24
LECOMT/Arnot Ogden (Osteopathic; 9/26): 10/3, 10/10, 10/17, 10/24, 10/31, 11/7, 11/14
Mount Sinai (10/6): 11/14, 11/21, 12/5, 12/12, 12/14, 12/19, 1/9, 1/18, 1/23
NYU (9/22): 10/17, 11/3
Richmond University (Staten Island) (9/28): [Unknown dates].
Rochester General Hospital (10/10): 10/17,19, 11/7,9,14,16, 12/5,7
University of Rochester IR (9/22): 10/2, 10/16, 10/23, 10/30, 11/6, 11/13
SUNY Stony Brook (9/29)
SUNY Brooklyn (10/3)
SUNY Upstate (10/12)
Winthrop (9/22) 10/20 10/23 10/27 10/30 11/17 11/20 12/8 12/15

North Carolina
Duke IR (9/25): 12/1, 12/15, 1/5, 1/26, 2/2, 2/9
Duke DR (10/17): 10/30, 11/3, 11/6, 11/10, 11/13, 11/20, 12/4, 12/8, 12/11, 12/18, 1/8, 1/12, 1/22, 1/29
Wake Forest (9/22, 9/26): 10/18, 10/26, 11/2, 11/7, 11/9, 11/14

Ohio
Case Western University Hospital (10/3): 10/24, 10/28, 11/7, 11/14, 12/5, 12/9, 12/11
Cleveland Clinic DR (10/6, 10/10, 10/11): 10/24, 10/25, 10/31, 11/1, 11/7, 11/8
MetroHealth / Case Western DR (9/28): 10/9, 10/10, 10/16, 10/17, 11/13, 11/14, 11/20, 11/21, 12/4, 12/5, 12/11, 12/12,
Aultman Hospital (9/29): 10/25. 11/01, 11/15, 12/06, 12/12, 01/03, 01/09
Cincinnati (10/4)- 10/23 10/27 10/30 11/6 11/10 11/17 12/11 12/15 12/18 1/5 1/12
Toledo DR (10/9): 10/23, 10/25, 11/1, 11/13, 11/6, 11/8, 11/13, 11/15, 11/17, 11/20, 12/4, 12/6, 12/8, 12/11, 12/13, 12/15, 12/18, 1/3
OSU (10/5)— 10/30 11/1 11/2 11/8 11/9 11/15 12/4 12/5


Oklahoma
Integris Baptist Medical Center (9/19): 10/10, 10/11, 10/17, 10/27, 11/9
Oklahoma State University (Osteopathic; 9/29): Week of October 30

Pennsylvania
Albert Einstein Philly (10/2), (10/4): 10/13, 10/16, 10/20, 10/27, 11/10, 11/13, 11/17, 11/20, 12/8
Allegheny Health Network (10/6): 10/23, 10/24, 11/7, 11/14, 11/21, 12/5, 12/12, 12/13, 1/11, 1/12
Drexel / Hahnemann DR (9/28): 10/17, 10/18, 11/14, 11/15, 11/21, 11/28, 11/29, 12/13
Hospital of The University of Pennsylvania (10/6): 11/13, 11/15, 11/20, 12/4, 12/6, 12/11, 12/13
Pennsylvania Hospital (of University of Pennsylvania) (9/25, 10/4): 10/31, 11/07, 11/16, 12/05, 12/12, 12/14, a few dates in January too
Penn State (10/4): 10/23, 10/30, 11/13, 11/20, 12/11, 12/18, 1/8, 1/15
Thomas Jefferson/Sidney Kimmel (10/6): 10/18, 10/25, 10/27, 11/03, 11/08, 11/10, 11/15, 11/17, 12/06, 12/08, 12/13
UPMC IR (9/29): 11/2, 11/16, 12/7, 12/14
UPMC DR (9/29): 10/31, 11/14, 12/5, 12/12

Rhode Island
Brown IR/DR (10/6): 11/2, 11/9, 11/16, 12/7, 12/14

South Carolina
MUSC DR (9/29): 10/20, 10/27, 11/01, 11/03, 11/08, 11/15, 11/17, 12/06, 12/08, 12/13, 12/15, 1/10, 1/12, 1/19

Tennessee
University of Tennessee-Knoxville (9/21): 10/6, 10/20, 10/27, 11/10, 11/16, 12/1

Texas
Baylor Dallas (10/2): 10/19, 10/23, 10/26, 11/2, 11/9, 11/16, 11/30
TTUHSC El Paso (9/25): 10/17 through 12/14, Tuesdays and Thursdays
UT Houston (10/2): 10/20, 10/27, 11/3, 11/10, 11/17, 12/8, 12/15, 1/12, 1/19
UT San Antonio (9/21, 9/28): 10/11, 10/18, 10/25, 11/1, 11/8, 11/15, 12/6, 12/13, 12/20, 1/10
McGovern/MD Anderson IR (9/27): 10/27, 11/17, 12/8
UT Southwestern DR (10/3): 11/7, 11/9, 11/14, 11/16, 12/5, 12/7, 12/12, 12/14
UT Galveston (10/2)- 10/26, 11/16, 12/14, 1/4, 1/11, 1/18, 1/25
Baylor College of Medicine DR (10/13?): NOV- 8, 10, 13, 17. DEC- 4, 6, 8, 11, 13.

Vermont
University of Vermont (9/19, 9/25, 10/9): 10/16, 10/30, 11/3, 11/6, 11/10, 11/13, 12/11, 12/18, 1/8

Virginia
EVMS (9/18, 9/27): 10/2, 10/9, 10/16, 10/23, 10/30

Wisconsin
Aurora (9/19): 10/17, 10/19, 10/24, 10/26, 11/2, 11/9, 11/21, 11/28, 11/30, 12/5, 12/7, 12/12, 12/14, 12/19, 12/21
MCW (9/29): 10/13, 10/30, 11/10, 11/17, 12/11
University of Wisconsin (9/30): 11/3, 11/8, 11/10, 11/17, 11/20, 12/5, 12/8
MCW St Joseph (10/3): Wednesdays and Fridays 10/11 through 12/22, and 1/3, 1/5, 1/10

Washington
Providence Sacred Heart (10/10): 11/1, 11/15, 12/7, 1/9
University of Washington DR (10/4): 11/6, 11/20, 12/4, 12/11, 12/15
University of Washington IR (10/4): 10/30, 11/6, 11/20, 12/4



REJECTIONS
UPMC (9/18, 10/2)
University of Louisville (9/27)
Mayo AZ (10/5/17)
Mayo Rochester (10/5/17)
Stony Brook (10/11)
University of New Mexico (10/2)
Loyola (10/10)
University of Washington DR (10/12)
UPenn DR (10/16)

 

[harambe4ever]

What just happened to the Google docs spreadsheet?

I believe it was a google error. I didn't change anything and certainly would never lock you guys out. Double-checked the permissions and nobody else has the capability, so I'm not sure what went wrong.

-Harambe

 

[Z Rejal]

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[radsgrad]

DO applicant
Steps: 260's
Research: Minimal to none

DR: applied 45, 14 interviews, 2 waitlist, 5 rejections
Intern: applied 15 each TY/Medicine, 4 TY interviews/ 1 waitlist, 5 Prelim med interviews

 

[ortholegoo]

So how does this whole thing work. Since most schools have sent out invites, should I be expecting more to trickle in or should I assume I have peaked. Sorry, newb here.

 

[starwarsfan123]

Rejections: Loyola prelim im, jacobi prelim im, univ of maryland prelim im

 

[recycledpaper]

DO applicant
Steps: 260's
Research: Minimal to none

DR: applied 45, 14 interviews, 2 waitlist, 5 rejections
Intern: applied 15 each TY/Medicine, 4 TY interviews/ 1 waitlist, 5 Prelim med interviews

Nicely done. What TYs if you don't mind me asking?

 

[sired]

SO.. I havent really understood the difference between prelim and TY..
In fact, in ERAS when you choose to filter the IM programs, there's no TY option but just prelim.
Can someone give an explanation?

 

[cyberchicken001]

SO.. I havent really understood the difference between prelim and TY..
In fact, in ERAS when you choose to filter the IM programs, there's no TY option but just prelim.
Can someone give an explanation?

Transitional year is its own specialty, it's not a preliminary year. And the difference is that you rotate through more departments and has a reputation for being more chill.

 

[kim873]

Hi y'all.

I was wondering if anyone would like to trade IV dates.

Hopkins DR scheduled 12/4 pm need
11/20, 12/11, 12/4 am.
BIDMC DR scheduled 12/5 pm, need
12/7, 12/8, 12/14, 12/15, 12/18.

DM if interested

 

[knosway14]

Anyone has hear from methodist - houston ?

 

[RoentgenThesePrograms]

Anyone get a reply/confirmation from Virginia Mason?

 

[sired]

has St. Vincent CT sent out invites?

 

[sired]

Anyone has hear from methodist - houston ?

they sent out invites yesterday

 

[medicalman83]

Are programs still sending invites? Do programs tend to send out invites in a staggered fashion? I got several interview invites right away but have had nothing but silence for about the last week or so. Getting a little worried.

 

[SpartanWolverine]

Are programs still sending invites? Do programs tend to send out invites in a staggered fashion? I got several interview invites right away but have had nothing but silence for about the last week or so. Getting a little worried.

Agreed. I haven't had an invite for 26 days and have had maybe 10 rejections since then. Not too convinced there's any more invites other than a few lucky ones trickling in from waitlists.

 

[JJArms22]

Seems like DR is more competitive this year. I'm feeling pretty stupid for not trying to maximize the number of interviews I have. I got 18 invites total but have had to decline like 3 due to schedule conflicts with other interviews. So right now I'm looking at 14 with another possible cancellation. I also only have like 5 prelim IM and 1 TY invites. I applied to ~40 rads programs with only like 3 within the top 20 and applied to 15 IM prelim and 3 TYs. Rejected from 5 programs. Steps: 253/255. Top quartile of class. Weak research though with about three projects: 2 ophtho, 1 rads. no pubs. Good ECs. Meh letters I guess.

 

[howdysang]

Seems like DR is more competitive this year. I'm feeling pretty stupid for not trying to maximize the number of interviews I have. I got 18 invites total but have had to decline like 3 due to schedule conflicts with other interviews. So right now I'm looking at 14 with another possible cancellation. I also only have like 5 prelim IM and 1 TY invites. I applied to ~40 rads programs with only like 3 within the top 20 and applied to 15 IM prelim and 3 TYs. Rejected from 5 programs. Steps: 253/255. Top quartile of class. Weak research though with about three projects: 2 ophtho, 1 rads. no pubs. Good ECs. Meh letters I guess.

My stats are similar to yours. Just wondering whether you received any interview invites from the top 3 programs that you applied to?

 

[Rads18]

Seems like DR is more competitive this year. I'm feeling pretty stupid for not trying to maximize the number of interviews I have. I got 18 invites total but have had to decline like 3 due to schedule conflicts with other interviews. So right now I'm looking at 14 with another possible cancellation. I also only have like 5 prelim IM and 1 TY invites. I applied to ~40 rads programs with only like 3 within the top 20 and applied to 15 IM prelim and 3 TYs. Rejected from 5 programs. Steps: 253/255. Top quartile of class. Weak research though with about three projects: 2 ophtho, 1 rads. no pubs. Good ECs. Meh letters I guess.

First of all that is great, good work. However, I have no idea why people are going on 15 Rads interviews, that is absurd. If you fall out of your top 5 then you really sucked it up. I'm taking 10 interviews for rads and then 6-7 prelims. I have no idea how people do more than this, or even feel the need to do more than this. Radiology is more competitive this year, but it isn't absurdly more competitive. Relax people, if you go on more than 12 rads interviews you're wasting time in my opinion.

 

[knosway14]

What are the odds of matching whit a single rad interview and 2 prelims (?)

 

[CloudEmperor]

What are the odds of matching whit a single rad interview and 2 prelims (?)

NRMP says 80% but that’s for US MDs

 

[Rads18]

NRMP says 80% but that’s for US MDs

The odds of landing in your top 3 choices among those you interviewed with is about 95% according to my medical school.

 

[DrfluffyMD]

Mind you, the chance of people getting their top 3 spots are HIGHER in those who go to more interviews.

The chance of people getting in their top 3 if only 3 interviews were secured is a lot lower.

 

[andreal]

does anyone know when tufts sent out ivs for dr

 

[Rads18]

Mind you, the chance of people getting their top 3 spots are HIGHER in those who go to more interviews.

The chance of people getting in their top 3 if only 3 interviews were secured is a lot lower.

No, that is incorrect and statistically impossible.

People who get more invites are more likely to land in their top 3 spots because they are likely better applicants, but going on more interviews doesn't help your odds of landing in your top 3. Going on more mid level interviews when you are sitting on 6 top 20 interviews isn't going to help you at all. Same is true, if you are sitting on 6 top 60 interviews, going on more lower level interviews isn't going to help you. However, attending 100 interviews or 3 interviews, isn't changing anyone's chances at their top 3. Having 100 invites, well that increases your chances because you probably rock. You have a 99% chance of landing in your top 6. I'm not saying that you should interview at 6 places, I'm just saying 15 is excessive.

 

[RoentgenThesePrograms]

Can anyone confirm OHSU and/or Utah sent out external DR invites already? The google sheet says yes, but a friend rotating at one of them said he was told no, they haven't.

 

[recycledpaper]

Can anyone confirm OHSU and/or Utah sent out external DR invites already? The google sheet says yes, but a friend rotating at one of them said he was told no, they haven't.

The only way to really know for sure is to call them yourself.

 

[spruntable]

No, that is incorrect and statistically impossible.

People who get more invites are more likely to land in their top 3 spots because they are likely better applicants, but going on more interviews doesn't help your odds of landing in your top 3. Going on more mid level interviews when you are sitting on 6 top 20 interviews isn't going to help you at all. Same is true, if you are sitting on 6 top 60 interviews, going on more lower level interviews isn't going to help you. However, attending 100 interviews or 3 interviews, isn't changing anyone's chances at their top 3. Having 100 invites, well that increases your chances because you probably rock. You have a 99% chance of landing in your top 6. I'm not saying that you should interview at 6 places, I'm just saying 15 is excessive.

You're right but I think it's important to emphasize this: there's a big difference between if you applied to a small number of programs because you're geographically restricted or something vs if you only got 3 interviews DESPITE APPLYING BROADLY. The latter doesn't say very good things about how competitive a candidate you are. Yes, in theory, everyone who gets interviews "is on equal footing once they walk in the door" but if you look at the NRMP data people who didn't match ranked about 7 programs, while people who did match ranked about 10-11; this doesn't mean many people matched at spots below 7, but rather that most "match-worthy" candidates got around or more than 10 invites. Getting 3 invites after applying to 5 programs, odds you match may be similar to the odds the average applicant matches in their top 3. Getting 3 invites out of 40 applications is an indication you have a serious red flag and that those 3 programs interviewing you may be assigning you a lower pre-test probability of being ranked well, whether because of IMG status, bad letters or whatever. I hate to be a downer and I don't want to be discouraging, this process is brutal--but I think it's important to be honest and figure out what you can do.

 

[cyberchicken001]

You're right but I think it's important to emphasize this: there's a big difference between if you applied to a small number of programs because you're geographically restricted or something vs if you only got 3 interviews DESPITE APPLYING BROADLY. The latter doesn't say very good things about how competitive a candidate you are. Yes, in theory, everyone who gets interviews "is on equal footing once they walk in the door" but if you look at the NRMP data people who didn't match ranked about 7 programs, while people who did match ranked about 10-11; this doesn't mean many people matched at spots below 7, but rather that most "match-worthy" candidates got around or more than 10 invites. Getting 3 invites after applying to 5 programs, odds you match may be similar to the odds the average applicant matches in their top 3. Getting 3 invites out of 40 applications is an indication you have a serious red flag and that those 3 programs interviewing you may be assigning you a lower pre-test probability of being ranked well, whether because of IMG status, bad letters or whatever. I hate to be a downer and I don't want to be discouraging, this process is brutal--but I think it's important to be honest and figure out what you can do.

Out of curiosity, what's a good interview rate? 10 for 40 programs applied? 15? 20? Interested to hear what other people's yield is at this point.
(Obviously it depends on the mix of programs you applied to, like if you applied to the top 40 programs in the country you will have a lower yield. But assuming you broadly applied.)

 

[Rads18]

You're right but I think it's important to emphasize this: there's a big difference between if you applied to a small number of programs because you're geographically restricted or something vs if you only got 3 interviews DESPITE APPLYING BROADLY. The latter doesn't say very good things about how competitive a candidate you are. Yes, in theory, everyone who gets interviews "is on equal footing once they walk in the door" but if you look at the NRMP data people who didn't match ranked about 7 programs, while people who did match ranked about 10-11; this doesn't mean many people matched at spots below 7, but rather that most "match-worthy" candidates got around or more than 10 invites. Getting 3 invites after applying to 5 programs, odds you match may be similar to the odds the average applicant matches in their top 3. Getting 3 invites out of 40 applications is an indication you have a serious red flag and that those 3 programs interviewing you may be assigning you a lower pre-test probability of being ranked well, whether because of IMG status, bad letters or whatever. I hate to be a downer and I don't want to be discouraging, this process is brutal--but I think it's important to be honest and figure out what you can do.

I totally agree with you, I'm just chuckling a bit about the people who are going on more than 12 interviews but wish they would have taken the 3 or 4 they couldn't fit in their schedule. I completely agree with your last post. Again, I'm going on 10 DR interviews, could have gone on more, and will go on more if a program I'm sincerely interested in invites me. I'm not wasting time and resources on another mid-lower tier program when I already know I'm going to rank them below 7, what is the point, there is greater than a 90% chance I rank in my top 5. I assume that goes for everyone with 10 or more interviews. Just relax everyone.

 

[knosway14]

Ok so I applied broadly (fmg requiring a visa-142 rad programs and 100 prelims) I got one rad and 2 prelims IV.

According to ecfgm-nrmp 2016 data people with one contiguous rank have around 40% matching rate and only 11 out of 44 (25% ) matched on that year (2016).

I'm disappointed I always wanted to be a radiologist, but numbers are not in my favor.

So chances are I match to both prelims and advance, partially matched (only prelim) and not matching.

Im also applying to radiology in Spain through MIR, but its not even close as good as going to an American residency.

So right now I'm seriously considering taking a prelim and re-apply (maybe to other specialty) or go through Spaniard residency and see if I can get the alternate pathway of the ABR or just using my Spaniard degree to move to UK, AU or NZ.

 

[radiosoda]

Mind you, the chance of people getting their top 3 spots are HIGHER in those who go to more interviews.

The chance of people getting in their top 3 if only 3 interviews were secured is a lot lower.

Sounds very reasonable. I have ~6 rads interviews now, with 2 of those being top 20s, maybe chances that I match on those are low, or maybe I only have few interviews because I am an IMG. It's all multifactorial and uncertain

 

[radiosoda]

Ok so I applied broadly (fmg requiring a visa-142 rad programs and 100 prelims) I got one rad and 2 prelims IV.

According to ecfgm-nrmp 2016 data people with one contiguous rank have around 40% matching rate and only 11 out of 44 (25% ) matched on that year (2016).

I'm disappointed I always wanted to be a radiologist, but numbers are not in my favor.

So chances are I match to both prelims and advance, partially matched (only prelim) and not matching.

Im also applying to radiology in Spain through MIR, but its not even close as good as going to an American residency.

So right now I'm seriously considering taking a prelim and re-apply (maybe to other specialty) or go through Spaniard residency and see if I can get the alternate pathway of the ABR or just using my Spaniard degree to move to UK, AU or NZ.

I am also an IMG, so maybe my advice may not be as good but, if you dont match to an advanced position you can always do a preliminary year and reapply next year. I understand some places can offer an extension of your preliminary year, and once here, you should get more interviews next year

 

[knosway14]

I am also an IMG, so maybe my advice may not be as good but, if you dont match to an advanced position you can always do a preliminary year and reapply next year. I understand some places can offer an extension of your preliminary year, and once here, with US lors and experiences you should get more interviews next year

Well I think the money they pay as a PGY1 is enough to re apply.

 

[CloudEmperor]

Ok so I applied broadly (fmg requiring a visa-142 rad programs and 100 prelims) I got one rad and 2 prelims IV.

According to ecfgm-nrmp 2016 data people with one contiguous rank have around 40% matching rate and only 11 out of 44 (25% ) matched on that year (2016).

I'm disappointed I always wanted to be a radiologist, but numbers are not in my favor.

So chances are I match to both prelims and advance, partially matched (only prelim) and not matching.

Im also applying to radiology in Spain through MIR, but its not even close as good as going to an American residency.

So right now I'm seriously considering taking a prelim and re-apply (maybe to other specialty) or go through Spaniard residency and see if I can get the alternate pathway of the ABR or just using my Spaniard degree to move to UK, AU or NZ.

I would say think carefully what your actual goals are. Do you want to practice in US no matter what? Or do you want to do radiology no matter what?

Depending on this, it will shape your pathway as to what to do and save you the most amount of time and money.

 

[spruntable]

Out of curiosity, what's a good interview rate? 10 for 40 programs applied? 15? 20? Interested to hear what other people's yield is at this point.
(Obviously it depends on the mix of programs you applied to, like if you applied to the top 40 programs in the country you will have a lower yield. But assuming you broadly applied.)

I think most people have a yield of 30-50% (invites per application), looking at the spreadsheet and talking to people. Even for really competitive applicants, since lower tier programs usually won't interview people they don't think will rank them. Personally I applied to more or less 30 IR and DR and got about 15 invites.

 

[knosway14]

I would say think carefully what your actual goals are. Do you want to practice in US no matter what? Or do you want to do radiology no matter what?

Depending on this, it will shape your pathway as to what to do and save you the most amount of time and money.

Radiology all the way 🙂

 

[CloudEmperor]

Radiology all the way 🙂

Well then whether it’s US, Spain or elsewhere in the EU, obviously do radiology training wherever you can get of course.

I agree though. I’d rather do radiology at a worse residency than any other specialty at a much better program. At the end of the day you still graduate as a radiologist.

 

[ValleyRad2018]

I think most people have a yield of 30-50% (invites per application), looking at the spreadsheet and talking to people. Even for really competitive applicants, since lower tier programs usually won't interview people they don't think will rank them. Personally I applied to more or less 30 IR and DR and got about 15 invites.

I will second this. I'm probably around 35-40% yield for invites - mix of top/mid tier, predictable rejections (Stanford, UCSF, anywhere in California lol, some non-regional programs), a few surprising rejections (community programs, mid/low tier), and a few surprising invites (non-regional, top tier).

I'm happy with the opportunities I've been given, but ultimately I will walk away from this process completely confused as to how programs sift through applications (other than the great insight from RadPD, but of course that's n=1). If it's any consolation, I experienced the same thing when applying to a completely different specialty, so I can't say I'm all that surprised one way or another.

I guess it's kind of a take what you can get and make the most of it type of situation. Don't take it too hard if you miss on a particular program - it happens to all of us. Best of luck to everyone!