2018-2019 APPIC Internship Interview Thread

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Several years ago, if memory serves me right, my friend in the match found out her results through the site before the email. Is this still true?

I can't remember what year, but there was an incident where a hacker provided your match site within the APPIC website. I think they sent out directions to a few listserves and folks found out before match day. I read an article about it. I can't seem to find it at the moment. Are you referring to this?
 
Thank you all for your kind words and sentiments. It breaks my heart that others have had similar experiences, especially with children involved. Thank the Lord I did not have children with this man. Yesterday we went to court because I felt unsafe due to a history of verbal and emotional abuse along with a few times where he did physically push me and put his hands around my neck. I should have ended things that time a few years ago. He has angry outbursts and demanded he was coming to my house to get one of the dogs yesterday and then blamed me that all of this is my doing that I never loved him and used him all these years. I can’t even. The emotional abuse is clear now, I still feel guilty like I had a major role in this. The judge also ruled custody of the dogs to me, which I know he is irate about. He lied under oath about thing she’s said or did to me and tried to sweet talk the judge. Why did I waste so much time with this man and that I’m sitting here still feeling like I ruined the relationship? I’ve contacted 6 places for a therapist here and it’s such a long waiting period that I won’t be seeing anyone soon.

Again, I hate to be so down on here. But I know you all have had equally crappy experiences and even the Appic process only is enough. So sincerely, thank you.
You were really smart to go to court, and to do it quickly. I'm also ridiculously glad you got your dogs. And regarding feeling like you ruined it, you did - in the best way possible. You ruined his vision for the relationship, which was one where you had no control or voice. You ruined that by being a strong and incredible person, and I'm so effing glad you did. When you can, try to feel proud that you did that.
 
I can't remember what year, but there was an incident where a hacker provided your match site within the APPIC website. I think they sent out directions to a few listserves and folks found out before match day. I read an article about it. I can't seem to find it at the moment. Are you referring to this?

Whattt lol, now I don’t know! I think it was...2013 my friend found out this way. Maybe I’m recalling this incorrectly. But looks like there was a hack for med students How the NRMP was "hacked" - Tea with MD - your guide to health and beauty
 
FTFY 😉
I wasn't familiar with the abbreviation "FTFY" and just assumed (as one does) that it was some reference to Fifty Shades of Grey given that it's come up a few times in this thread and was just like, "Wow. Didn't see @WisNeuro as a fan of this trilogy, but okay. You do you, man. You do you."

....Come to find out, FTFY = "fixed that for you."
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How are people and their cohorts talking/not talking about internship hopes and process? I think my cohort has little clumps of people who talk to each other, but outside of the clumps we don't really know what's happening with other people who applied this year. I'm envious of cohorts that are all in it to win it together!
 
How are people and their cohorts talking/not talking about internship hopes and process? I think my cohort has little clumps of people who talk to each other, but outside of the clumps we don't really know what's happening with other people who applied this year. I'm envious of cohorts that are all in it to win it together!
Me too! I'm using the forums as sort of a pseudo cohort in this process. Only half of the folks in my cohort actually are going through the match this year and we're a pretty closed bunch. Having you guys here has made this process just a smidge easier for me, so thanks guys!
 
How are people and their cohorts talking/not talking about internship hopes and process? I think my cohort has little clumps of people who talk to each other, but outside of the clumps we don't really know what's happening with other people who applied this year. I'm envious of cohorts that are all in it to win it together!
Mine sounds different - my cohort has three people, and there are only five of us in total (two from earlier years) who are applying this year. I'm close to my cohort, so I talk with them every step of the way - one of them did most of their applying sitting on my couch. The other two students I'm much less close to; one of them I check in with sometimes, and the other I never really hear about/from. I think if I was in a bigger program I'd be in a situation like yours, though, with just talking with my "pocket," as it were.
 
I looked at the match statistics for the last couple of years - specifically the matching rates from the site's perspective. Looks like they often match with their top four-tier applicants (for a site with 4 spots, their top 16 picks, for a site with 8 spots, their top 32 picks, and so forth), and sometimes with their top 5 tier (top 20 and 40 picks respectively). Not too helpful since we don't know where we were actually ranked at our top sites; however, if you look at the past number of applicants who interviewed at your top sites, you might be some idea of how likely you'd be, mathematically speaking, to match there.

Or: I'm clutching at straws in order to feel like I have more information during this time of darkness than I actually have in fact. Either way - it's better than working on my chapter 4.
 
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I looked at the match statistics for the last couple of years - specifically the matching rates from the site's perspective. Looks like they often match with their top four-tier applicants (for a site with 4 spots, their top 16 picks, for a site with 8 spots, their top 32 picks, and so forth), and sometimes with their top 5 tier (top 20 and 40 picks respectively). Not too helpful since we don't know where we were actually ranked at our top sites; however, if you look at the past number of applicants who interviewed at your top sites, you might be some idea of how likely you'd be, mathematically speaking, to match there.

Or: I'm clutching at straws in order to feel like I have more information during this time of darkness than I actually have in fact. Either way - it's better than working on my chapter 4.

Absolutely clutching at straws for information that isn't there. Also, this legit made me feel better and I've convinced myself that it is, in fact, wonderfully delightful news. :claps: :woot:

On my way to submit rankings now!
 
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Absolutely clutching at straws for information that isn't there. Also, this legit made me feel better and I've convinced myself that it is, in fact, wonderfully delightful news. :claps: :woot:

On my way to submit rankings now!
Hope you get farther than me; I put them all in and then got so dysregulated I ate half a jar of peanut butter, soooo
 
Absolutely clutching at straws for information that isn't there. Also, this legit made me feel better and I've convinced myself that it is, in fact, wonderfully delightful news. :claps: :woot:

I just appreciate how well you understand me 😍 According to these stats-tea leaves, I have an 80% shot of matching at one of my wand sites. I'll keep my illusions, thank you!! 🙄

Hope you get farther than me; I put them all in and then got so dysregulated I ate half a jar of peanut butter, soooo

Peanut butter jelly time!!! :banana:
 
Hope you get farther than me; I put them all in and then got so dysregulated I ate half a jar of peanut butter, soooo

Same. I can’t bring myself to think about it without wanting to throw up.
Had to be sitting next to someone else in my cohort and submit them at the same time and then go do something else so I couldn't think about it for awhile. During which time I convinced myself that I had totally done the right thing. And then the next day panicked and went back to change something...to the way I'd already done it. Good test-retest reliability; bad emotional memory. But ANYway, highly recommend the doing-it-with-someone method.
 
Haha it's not that bad. My supervisor actually recommended it since I was having trouble deciding. Told me to certify, the see how it felt. Low risk but there is a gut reaction that's telling.
That gut reaction is killing me right now! I've used the articles and ranked my choices in a logical manner... the problem that i'm having is that my gut is telling me that I made the wrong decision. So one of the reasons I ranked one site over the other is to be nearer my parents who are older and in poor health. The other site (the one I ranked second) felt like I had walked into the Emerald City and everything there was amazing... Now, knowing that I could reorder them is killing me.

Did I do the right thing?

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Haha it's not that bad. My supervisor actually recommended it since I was having trouble deciding. Told me to certify, the see how it felt. Low risk but there is a gut reaction that's telling.
Good point; that gut reaction is a very real thing!
Rankings certified!!!
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You do you, peanut butter and all. We all have our idiosyncratic ways of getting through! You can DO THIS!!!!!
THANK YOU, FRIEND!!! :happy:
Had to be sitting next to someone else in my cohort and submit them at the same time and then go do something else so I couldn't think about it for awhile. During which time I convinced myself that I had totally done the right thing. And then the next day panicked and went back to change something...to the way I'd already done it. Good test-retest reliability; bad emotional memory. But ANYway, highly recommend the doing-it-with-someone method.
That's a great idea!! I'm so glad y'all are finding ways to make it to this next milestone in adaptive and grown-up ways. Y'all are an inspiring bunch 🙂
 
Had to be sitting next to someone else in my cohort and submit them at the same time and then go do something else so I couldn't think about it for awhile. During which time I convinced myself that I had totally done the right thing. And then the next day panicked and went back to change something...to the way I'd already done it. Good test-retest reliability; bad emotional memory. But ANYway, highly recommend the doing-it-with-someone method.
I have changed my mind OVER AND OVER AND OVER and ultimately come back to the same rank list that I originally thought I had decided upon. Thus, certified. With complete acceptance that I may be logging in, changing, logging in, changing back, logging in, changing in a different way, logging in, changing back...

I need 2/7 to be here so this phase is just OVER and I can then simply silently panic about what's going to happen with my future...or having to go into Round 2...
 
That gut reaction is killing me right now! I've used the articles and ranked my choices in a logical manner... the problem that i'm having is that my gut is telling me that I made the wrong decision. So one of the reasons I ranked one site over the other is to be nearer my parents who are older and in poor health. The other site (the one I ranked second) felt like I had walked into the Emerald City and everything there was amazing... Now, knowing that I could reorder them is killing me.

Did I do the right thing?

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I have a complete bias of following my gut. And considering my death bed. On my death bed, how will I feel about the choices I made? Will I regret my decisions or will I feel confident that, whatever the outcome, I did what was right for me? Sometimes, all of the best rationality simply does not apply for my current context or my values. I certainly can't tell you what is right for you. I also encourage you to embrace what you know is your own truth and go with it.

For what it's worth, I ranked one of my sites with the 'rationally' best training/status lowest because I have other more personal priorities. In the end, it will all be okay.
 
I used the method that one of the prior years suggested doing. I imagined how i would feel if the match letter said congratulations you are going to... and judged based on how i felt about each of them. I mostly did it for my top ones to make sure I really went the correct order. I'm also trying to remind myself that it is only a year and that I can survive just about anything for one year. What i'm afraid of is getting attached to one site and then feeling crushed if I don't end up there. I'm sort of distancing myself from the process to avoid attachment so it makes everything feel a bit...dissociated.
 
I used the method that one of the prior years suggested doing. I imagined how i would feel if the match letter said congratulations you are going to... and judged based on how i felt about each of them. I mostly did it for my top ones to make sure I really went the correct order. I'm also trying to remind myself that it is only a year and that I can survive just about anything for one year. What i'm afraid of is getting attached to one site and then feeling crushed if I don't end up there. I'm sort of distancing myself from the process to avoid attachment so it makes everything feel a bit...dissociated.
SUPER resonate with this - especially with everyone around me going, "Where do you want to go? Where is your top choice?" Every time I answer that question I feel like I'm setting myself up for more disappointment because it talks me into it a little more.
 
SUPER resonate with this - especially with everyone around me going, "Where do you want to go? Where is your top choice?" Every time I answer that question I feel like I'm setting myself up for more disappointment because it talks me into it a little more.
YES. This, this, all of this. Not only do I feel like I'm gonna be setting myself up for disappointment, but I also feel like if I don't end up matching at my top site, then others will also be disappointed FOR me, too. This was exactly why I didn't want to share my rankings in the first place, but I've found myself also feeling anxious about the process and wanting to talk it through with a few people. It's a can't win for losing type thing. And the real kicker is I genuinely believe I'd be happy at any of the places in my top 4 because they're all quality sites. I feel like people are less convinced by that when they know you didn't match at your top site, though. Not that it should matter what anyone else thinks, but that's still a thing.

All that being said, I really appreciate being able to talk about these anxieties and vulnerabilities with all of you awesome #forumfam folks. It helps normalize all of this craziness and reminds me that I'm not in this alone. Y'all the real MVPs 🙂
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YES. This, this, all of this. Not only do I feel like I'm gonna be setting myself up for disappointment, but I also feel like if I don't end up matching at my top site, then others will also be disappointed FOR me, too. This was exactly why I didn't want to share my rankings in the first place, but I've found myself also feeling anxious about the process and wanting to talk it through with a few people. It's a can't win for losing type thing. And the real kicker is I genuinely believe I'd be happy at any of the places in my top 4 because they're all quality sites. I feel like people are less convinced by that when they know you didn't match at your top site, though. Not that it should matter what anyone else thinks, but that's still a thing.

All that being said, I really appreciate being able to talk about these anxieties and vulnerabilities with all of you awesome #forumfam folks. It helps normalize all of this craziness and reminds me that I'm not in this alone. Y'all the real MVPs 🙂
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YAAS! I have a genuinely great top 5 but I feel like if I don't get number 1 or 2 it'll be all...

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I used the method that one of the prior years suggested doing. I imagined how i would feel if the match letter said congratulations you are going to... and judged based on how i felt about each of them. I mostly did it for my top ones to make sure I really went the correct order.

YES I used this method as well. I realized that wherever I end up, match day will be bittersweet AND I'm prepared for this. I don't use the "it's only one year" approach because life is short and unexpected and a lot can happen in a day let alone a year. Plus, I don't like the idea of wishing days away, I'd rather wind up someplace that I can relax into. This is my perspective, it does not have to ba anyne else's.
 
As anxiety-provoking as the rank-order process can be, continue to keep in mind that 1) internship only lasts a year, and 2) going forward, no one will ever know, ask, or generally even care what number on your list your internship site was. While I've discussed my experiences while on internship with others, I can honestly say that in the years since (and even immediately after matching), no one has ever asked where on my list the site fell.

Best of luck, everyone.
 
Guys, I recently visited my wandsite. It was my last interview. I let them know how perfectly their internship site matches my training goals, and got a generally good feeling about the day. Maybe I was too enthusiastic, like a cheerleader, lol. Should I tone down my thank you letter? Because my first impulse is too remind them again how perfect we are for each other!
 
The goal, I suppose, is to regardless of the outcome, embrace the natural tendency to try to reduce post-decisional dissonance rather than experiencing buyer's remorse. 🤣

Exactly!! I don't care, ego-wise, if I get my first or last site - but if I get my first I want to make sure I liked it the best and don't feel all, "maybe I should've ranked that other site higher."
 
Alright, I wrote my "thank you", revised and toned it down about 3 times, then hit send. I also completed and certified my rank order list. Let's do this! 2 weeks plus 4 days!!
Good for you! I also agonized over a thank you email to my wandsite for days and days and days until it seemed like it had been too long to send it and then just deleted it because I like to make things extra awkward for myself.
 
I had a dream I matched to the lower end of my list last night 😳 and all I kept thinking in my dream was "please be a dream" because I will genuinely be sad if I don't match with my top two. Career wise or site wise, I just didn't feel the others were as good of a fit, but I want to graduate so I'll take what I can get within reason. Just now, I finally certified my list, in the end I left two sites out which makes me sweat even more.
 
I had a dream I matched to the lower end of my list last night 😳 and all I kept thinking in my dream was "please be a dream" because I will genuinely be sad if I don't match with my top two. Career wise or site wise, I just didn't feel the others were as good of a fit, but I want to graduate so I'll take what I can get within reason. Just now, I finally certified my list, in the end I left two sites out which makes me sweat even more.


The stress of leaving sites out of the rank list is so real. I left two out myself and I worry all the time that the universe will smite me for being ungrateful or something...and i'm not even generally superstitious. In the end I know that I would rather go into phase two or have to wait a year than match to one of those two sites so its truly for the best.
 
The stress of leaving sites out of the rank list is so real. I left two out myself and I worry all the time that the universe will smite me for being ungrateful or something...and i'm not even generally superstitious. In the end I know that I would rather go into phase two or have to wait a year than match to one of those two sites so its truly for the best.

Lol! That’s how I feel.
 
The stress of leaving sites out of the rank list is so real. I left two out myself and I worry all the time that the universe will smite me for being ungrateful or something...and i'm not even generally superstitious. In the end I know that I would rather go into phase two or have to wait a year than match to one of those two sites so its truly for the best.

I agree and I simply cannot bring myself to take a few sites off my lists which I deem to be unacceptable. I think I'm just going to pray to the gods (old and new) that I match to my #wandsite and avoid coping ahead for alternative outcomes. Healthy, right?
 
I wonder if sites approach their rankings with as much dread and anxiety as I have...
 
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