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Discussion in 'Medical Students - DO' started by kenjixshadow, Mar 16, 2018.
I'm assuming you mean TouroCOM, not TCOM (Texas College of Osteo Med)? Or am I being a crazy person?
It’s not UPMC main. Montefiore is the main hospital designation for Einstein.
EDIT: Nope, I was wrong.UPMC
Ugh must have made a mistake. It would definitely more make more sense for UTSW to come from a Texas school. Will edit soon. Part of the reason that impressed me was that it was an out of region match.
It says UPMC Montefiore/Presbyterian ... it’s the main one. You can check on the UPMC website and only the main one offers these specialty tracks
I’m sorry. You’re absolutely right. UPMC
Sorry, I meant that the UTSW match, plus those other one; Monte, UTMB, UIC, etc are definitely from TouroCOM NY (so it was an out of state match). TCOM is the abbreviation for Texas COM so I was confused when you had put that down.
I might be mistaken, but I don't think UMaryland has ever taken a DO for their IM program. Pretty impressive PCOM!
LMU-DCOM official match list
No, they're from TCOM. Touro isn't putting people into UTSW.
I mean, they are, because I know the person and its literally on the Touro match website.
Lol, but they did
This is a strong rebuttal.
Nice, it’s a match list!
KCU’s official list.
Harbor-UCLA Medical Center, Torrance, FL
I thought that program was in California!
Palm Beach Consortium for GME, Loxahatchee, FL
Palm Beach Consortium for GME, West Palm Beach, FL
For peds, these are the same programs. Not sure why they use different cities for it, though Loxahatchee is a small town in the outskirt of West Palm Beach. Gotta find a way to criticize what is otherwise a decent match for KUC
85% matched either ACGME or Military this year. Noiiiccceee
annoying that KCU has not put percentages up
They did not get 100% this year, which is disconcerting as a student.
True, and I am an incoming one so I share your worries. Still I'm impressed that they did 100% for 4 years straight, just hoping that its not a dismal number this year and that is why they are waiting on posting it.
Ty for posting, I saw this before but actually trust the list I compiled from our commencement book more as I personally confirmed some of the weird inconsistencies between the lists with my classmates during graduation week. Only correction from my list is the Baylor IM is at Round Rock, not the academic hospital.
Lol, it's definitely in Cali, that's a typo on the "official" list.
KCU has had a pretty high ACGME match rate the whole time I've been there. I think the lowest I saw during my 4 years was around 58-59%. Usually only about 1/3 of the class ends up at AOA programs. 85% is much higher than I thought (I wasn't about to figure out which FM and IM programs that I hadn't heard of were AOA vs. ACGME), but our past record with the ACGME match is part of why I've felt KCU will mostly be fine after the merger.
Ever since the new administration took over in 2013/14 they've used really weird formats for the "official" match lists. Idk why, but it's really obnoxious and the old formats from before 2014 used to be way easier to look at and read.
We had 2 people who didn't place out of 240+. Idk one of them, but the other is 100% because they were a mediocre student and I'd expect did terrible on the interview trail as their English is pretty poor (not native to the US) and they applied only to psych (in which communication is essential). In the thread about the placement rate document I posted our rate, but it was something like a 99.2% placement rate. I would not be concerned about this at all if you're a current student.
Bump for an ACOM list
Guys when reading for medicine matches, make sure you’re looking for categorical matches and take note if they’re enrolled in a PC track too (some PC tracks encourage fellowship, others see it as against the core tenets of the track). In the post above, I used the info in the thread and now realize some of those of the matches are prelim/PC track matches and am too lazy to go back and figure out which ones exactly.
Same with surgery.
This may sound silly, but what does categorical mean in reference to surgery?
Categorical surgery is a full surgical residency (5-7 years). Preliminary surgery is only an intern year, at which point you have to reapply to get a PGY-2+ position. Same for medicine.
Thank you. Do you know where that term came from?
What do you mean?
I don’t know or care about where the term came from, but it makes sense. To expand on the meaning, a preliminary resident is preliminarily hired for one year and in order to be on track to complete a 3yr (Internal Medicine) or 5yr (General Surgery), they have to reapply. In some cases, they are offered a position informally if someone else quits. Categorical, on the other hand, can be thought of as someone who has been categorized into a set track. That’s not to say, however, that prelim on a match list is a bad thing. The ROAD (Radiology, Ophthalmology, Anesthesiology, Dermatology) specialties as well as Neurology for example all require an “intern” year before you begin PGY-2 in the actual field with the idea being that some medical/surgery experience is valuable. For some, that year can be either a prelim year or a transitional year. The difference is that a preliminary year is usually non-elective and your experience is modeled based off what categorical would do whereas transitional year allowance you to pick your interests and many make them “cush”. Of course, if you do a TY, you better be fairly certain you’re matching the field you’re really going for because they don’t give you the credit of an intern year generally. Finally, regarding prelims, Medicine prelims vary, but surgical prelims are notorious for stringing people along. It is entirely possible for someone to do a prelim year, not get hired but offered another prelim year, and then even if they get an offer in their third year, they’re starting over at PGY-1. Also, at my home program prelims were given less desirable schedules and attendings.
We were given the full list at graduation but it has not been posted to the website. It’s not bad, the expected number of FM and IM. Half dozen matches or more of peds and psych. 8 to 10 each of OB, gas and ER. 4 rads. 1 Derm.
I suspect ACOM has not publicly issued the list in hopes the 1 unmatched student gets something(?). Don’t know the overall caliber of the student but had a failure in levels during 3rd year I believe.
LECOM recently had commencement, did anyone happen to get their list?
Yeah I suspect the admin is holding out for that reason. But just to add on, I know of at least 3 who graduated and have yet to secure a residency/research spot, so not sure where ACOM got their 99% matched stat...
I am actually really interested I. That program specifically. Any idea what their stats were?
not a clue.
At least in Bradenton, they didn't publish matches at LECOMs commencement.
LECOM list publishedhttps://lecom.edu/content/uploads/2018/07/LECOM-Match-results-2018.pdf
Anesthesiology at JH? I don't know much about programs yet but isn't that a rather competitive match?
I’m not really sure what to look for when determining a good vs. poor match list. With that, is the number of non-participants and number of traditional rotating alarming?
Generally it's very difficult to derive factors about student bodies or performance from a match list. It's also difficult to know whether a TRI means someone failed to match or they're using it as a stepping block to a PGY-2 year specialty such as Anesthesia, PMR, or Neurology.
My question is when people only announce their prelim, does that mean they didn't match into residency? For example, there are people in my school that would only announce "Matched prelim in [insert city or hospital]". Is there a reason not to mention the rest of residency?
What an incredible match! Extrmemely difficult for an MD to match there let alone a bone wizard.
Current Residents – Department of Otorhinolaryngology – Head & Neck Surgery
Whoop! There he is!!!! :O (Look at PGY-1)
Looks like for pubs he's had one case report in Neurosurg, so not even a research heavy background? No doubt this person scored a 260+ on Step 1.
Eh maybe, but probably not. I know the apps of some of the other killer DO matches over the last few years and actually none of them had a 260+
And just because something isn’t in pubmed it doesn’t mean he didn’t have lots of research. That might me the only publication but abstracts and posters also count.
nah he has to know someone in the program. One dinky case report isn't going to cut it, I don't care if he has a 270
The last author of that pub is an Emory trained ENT , ENT is a small field and it's likely he was able to make connections through him.
You guys think a connection alone is enough to cut it? Its an ivy league ENT residency. Probably had both.
Ok for one, there is no such thing as “an Ivy League residency.” And two you clearly don’t know the power of a connection if you don’t think a connection alone wouldn’t be able to cut it. Who you know is far more important what what you know.
The guys was probably a great applicant, I’m still doubtful he had some mythical step score as I have yet to find a stellar DO match that had one. Usually these applicants look like an MD on paper and have made some sort of connection.
Don’t underestimate an interesting background and a great audition rotation. This guy was SDOY. He probably also blew theses guys away during an auditon. I was talking with a PD of a very prominent program which had never taken a DO. He mentioned that there was one DO who they tried to recruit last year just because of an amazing audition rotation. The student ended up going elsewhere but the point is that it’s not just about research. What’s on paper only gets you so far but you need to get noticed, especially as a DO. I’m sure this kid at Upenn had connections but let’s give him props for excelling in whatever he did.
No it’s not everything but I have yet to see a stellar DO match that didn’t have it.
You have to look the part on paper (this will mean drastically different things depending on the field) before the away rotation can give you that boost.