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Its possible they don't want to disclose names along with match locations.
I would be super pissed if someone posted that on here. There’s a reason some of us don’t even post in the class Facebook page.
There are easy ways to hide revealing info in a picture.
 
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I've never understood the rational behind this (the match list with names, not the don't post on Facebook)?
I never understood that either since their names and school names will later be posted on their residency program's website anyway.
 
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There's something all the cool kids been using these days called a camera. Apparently, most devices have them. I heard it can be pretty useful in these situations.
Yeah it's been made plenty clear that we're supposed to remove any identifying information so posting a picture of everyone's names isn't going to fly and taking the time to black out the 240 names would take just as long as typing it all out. I'm sure it'll be up on KCU's website soon enough.
 
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What is the difference between "Orthopedics" and "Surgery (Orthopedic)"?
whats the difference between ear nose and throat and otolaryngology?
 
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Very weak match list out of CCOM this year. 6 people were unable to place into anything including SOAP and scramble. Several others had to settle for TRI or prelim spots. Very underwhelming. 1 ENT and 1 Uro were very lucky SOAP/scrambled into last minute. Source: good friend of mine is in this class.
 
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Very weak match list out of CCOM this year. 6 people were unable to place into anything including SOAP and scramble. Several others had to settle for TRI or prelim spots. Very underwhelming. 1 ENT and 1 Uro were very lucky SOAP/scrambled into last minute. Source: good friend of mine is in this class.
so what do those people do? They can't even get a TRI? They don't become practicing physicians and have to find other career paths? I still don't get what happens to these people.
 
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so what do those people do? They can't even get a TRI? They don't become practicing physicians and have to find other career paths? I still don't get what happens to these people.
I don't know their specific stories unfortunately, maybe some CCOM students can comment on that but I would assume take a research year and reapply, or I know my school can postpone your graduation by a year with a family leave of absence so you can reapply as an MS4, not sure if CCOM does this as well.
 

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Very weak match list out of CCOM this year. 6 people were unable to place into anything including SOAP and scramble. Several others had to settle for TRI or prelim spots. Very underwhelming. 1 ENT and 1 Uro were very lucky SOAP/scrambled into last minute. Source: good friend of mine is in this class.
CCOM has been like this the last few years. Not worth even half the pricetag they rob students of
 

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I don't know their specific stories unfortunately, maybe some CCOM students can comment on that but I would assume take a research year and reapply, or I know my school can postpone your graduation by a year with a family leave of absence so you can reapply as an MS4, not sure if CCOM does this as well.
No idea, considering that they have had “100% placement” over the last several years, this is uncharted territory.
 

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so what do those people do? They can't even get a TRI? They don't become practicing physicians and have to find other career paths? I still don't get what happens to these people.
They keep trying. They keep trying to scramble, find spots in network, find something to do in the meantime, etc. And they reapply. Doing a research year, OMT fellowships, MS, LOA, etc. and reapplying are options at some schools.

If they don't, then they look for another career.
 
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Very weak match list out of CCOM this year. 6 people were unable to place into anything including SOAP and scramble. Several others had to settle for TRI or prelim spots. Very underwhelming. 1 ENT and 1 Uro were very lucky SOAP/scrambled into last minute. Source: good friend of mine is in this class.
As a current CCOM student this is pretty disheartening not going to lie...
 
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That's great, but like someone earlier said: I don't think our school should have that many people SOAP/scramble or go unmatched with how much tuition we're paying and the "amazing" reputation they try to portray...
The biggest myth among premed noobs. There's at least 8 schools that I would pick over CCOM with equal or better clinical education and are cheaper.
 
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Quick question: I see a lot of programs have "Transitional Year" matches that are separate from TRIs and Prelims. Googling transitional year makes it seem like these are desirable spots but I'm a bit confused on how this works in terms of residency.

Can anyone elaborate?
 

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Quick question: I see a lot of programs have "Transitional Year" matches that are separate from TRIs and Prelims. Googling transitional year makes it seem like these are desirable spots but I'm a bit confused on how this works in terms of residency.

Can anyone elaborate?
Rads, Derm, PM&R, Optho, and Anes all require a transitional/intern year. Some programs have categorical positions where the intern year is built into the program, while some programs are advanced and require an outside intern year. There’s also other pathways that I won’t get into.
 
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Very weak match list out of CCOM this year. 6 people were unable to place into anything including SOAP and scramble. Several others had to settle for TRI or prelim spots. Very underwhelming. 1 ENT and 1 Uro were very lucky SOAP/scrambled into last minute. Source: good friend of mine is in this class.
Wow, imagine graduating with $400K+ in debt and nowhere to go for residency.

It has honestly gotten to a point where taking a gap year to re-apply might be financially wiser than attending CCOM or AZCOM. Their tuitions have become criminally high.
 

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Wow, imagine graduating with $400K+ in debt and nowhere to go for residency.

It has honestly gotten to a point where taking a gap year to re-apply might be financially wiser than attending CCOM or AZCOM. Their tuitions have become criminally high.
At least AZCOM can point to a decent match list, CCOM can't even do that.
 
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Very weak match list out of CCOM this year. 6 people were unable to place into anything including SOAP and scramble. Several others had to settle for TRI or prelim spots. Very underwhelming. 1 ENT and 1 Uro were very lucky SOAP/scrambled into last minute. Source: good friend of mine is in this class.
Can confirm, the CCOM urology match at SUNY buffalo was a last second scramble match. SUNY buffalo is notorious for being one of the worst urology programs in the nation. They had 3 openings and failed to fill....ALL 3 SPOTS this year! Not a good look.
 
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Can confirm, the CCOM urology match at SUNY buffalo was a last second scramble match. SUNY buffalo is notorious for being one of the worst urology programs in the nation. They had 3 openings and failed to fill....ALL 3 SPOTS this year! Not a good look.
What makes them so bad and undesirable?
 
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I’m also seeing zero I6 matches which has me concerned given my high interest in CT but also not surprised given its competitiveness.

I suppose for DO the path to CT will remain: GS —> CT
 
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I’m all seeing zero I6 matches which has me concerned given my high interest in CT but also not surprised given its competitiveness.

I suppose for DO the path to CT will remain: GS —> CT
Well, there's also quite a small applicant pool that would even be interested in pursuing that. It's not a common thing you'll find on match lists for any school.
 

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I’m also seeing zero I6 matches which has me concerned given my high interest in CT but also not surprised given its competitiveness.

I suppose for DO the path to CT will remain: GS —> CT
There are only like 30 something spots in the country.... a DO wanting I6 has to beat out applicants from top MD schools to get a spot. Even the MD match rate for I6 is extremely low. Any DO wanting CT should plan on doing GS->CT.
 
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I’m also seeing zero I6 matches which has me concerned given my high interest in CT but also not surprised given its competitiveness.

I suppose for DO the path to CT will remain: GS —> CT
I knew some MDs/DOs applying to integrated CT this year and 3/3 of them matched their back-ups.

I think GS to CT remains the path unless you're an outstanding candidate out of medical school (top 20 school or AOA, 250 Step, multiple pubs, aways).
 

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I’m also seeing zero I6 matches which has me concerned given my high interest in CT but also not surprised given its competitiveness.

I suppose for DO the path to CT will remain: GS —> CT
If you went to a DO a school to get I6 CT surg match, you’re going to have a bad time. I wonder even how many DO CT surgeons there are in the country
 

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If you went to a DO a school to get I6 CT surg match, you’re going to have a bad time. I wonder even how many DO CT surgeons there are in the country
A decent amount of CT surgeons in general actually because CT was a fellowship that could even be had from an AOA program, but very few I6 trained. The last two years I don't think there have been any, although 3 years ago there were like 2-3 I6 matches or something like that.
 

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TUNCOM doesn't look too bad this year. Could be one of their strongest matches ever (definitely making my school look bad). Any thoughts?

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A decent amount of CT surgeons in general actually because CT was a fellowship that could even be had from an AOA program, but very few I6 trained. The last two years I don't think there have been any, although 3 years ago there were like 2-3 I6 matches or something like that.
If you went to a DO a school to get I6 CT surg match, you’re going to have a bad time. I wonder even how many DO CT surgeons there are in the country
Agree with @AnatomyGrey12 if you want CT as a DO, you’re likely going to do it via GS it seems. UC Davis has a few but I would never bet my medical career on it right now. The traditional pathway is what has produced CT surgeons until the I6 emerged in the 2000s so I suppose it could be worse.
 
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What makes CCOM list not great? and also the students there have stats similar to MD schools with a majority taking Step, why are they not matching well?
Because it still matters they are not MDs so they won’t match as well as them. It is what it is.
 
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Because it still matters they are not MDs so they won’t match as well as them. It is what it is.
My understanding is they also have a very old style curriculum and therefore underperform on boards compared to what you would expect with their entrance stats. I will say that as one of the oldest and most established schools, and with all their clinical resources available, they don't ever have as many competitive matches as the other established schools. And it's not just a "oh the class just didn't want competitive stuff this year" because it's literally every year. With the student body they accept there should be more competitive matches.
 
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What makes CCOM list not great? and also the students there have stats similar to MD schools with a majority taking Step, why are they not matching well?
Also that list that was released on here isn't the full one, it only has 130ish spots
 

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My understanding is they also have a very old style curriculum and therefore underperform on boards compared to what you would expect with their entrance stats. I will say that as one of the oldest and most established schools, and with all their clinical resources available, they don't ever have as many competitive matches as the other established schools. And it's not just a "oh the class just didn't want competitive stuff this year" because it's literally every year. With the student body they accept there should be more competitive matches.
Does curriculum make that much of an impact though? I've always heard that it was more on the individual student to do well on boards rather than the pre-clinical curriculum, as long as classes aren't mandatory. Full disclosure: I'm actually deciding between CCOM, RVU-SU, and KCOM right now pretty much on the basis of is it better to have a good curriculum or clinical resources :laugh:
 

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Does curriculum make that much of an impact though? I've always heard that it was more on the individual student to do well on boards rather than the pre-clinical curriculum, as long as classes aren't mandatory. Full disclosure: I'm actually deciding between CCOM, RVU-SU, and KCOM right now pretty much on the basis of is it better to have a good curriculum or clinical resources :laugh:
While the idea that the locus of control is certainly internal with regards to board performance, absolutely do not ,under any circumstances, underestimate the magnitude that your school can disrupt your ability to succeed. Don't listen to people whose line of reasoning is "it wasn't so bad and *look* I turned out fine so it worked"
 

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Does curriculum make that much of an impact though? I've always heard that it was more on the individual student to do well on boards rather than the pre-clinical curriculum, as long as classes aren't mandatory. Full disclosure: I'm actually deciding between CCOM, RVU-SU, and KCOM right now pretty much on the basis of is it better to have a good curriculum or clinical resources :laugh:
Curriculum can hurt you far more than it can help you. Like @Neopolymath said, don't underestimate a schools ability to fill your time with meaningless garbage. I've seen students on here talk about their schools basically not having a dedicated because the school fills that time with random mandatory OMM and clinical junk.
 
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Curriculum can hurt you far more than it can help you. Like @neopolyamth said, don't underestimate a schools ability to fill your time with meaningless garbage. I've seen students on here talk about their schools basically not having a dedicated because the school fills that time with random mandatory OMM and clinical junk.
This happens at KCU