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The first three are body parts, the fourth is a medical specialty
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The first three are body parts, the fourth is a medical specialty
Very weak match list out of CCOM this year. 6 people were unable to place into anything including SOAP and scramble. Several others had to settle for TRI or prelim spots. Very underwhelming. 1 ENT and 1 Uro were very lucky SOAP/scrambled into last minute. Source: good friend of mine is in this class.CCOM Midwestern
Very weak match list out of CCOM this year. 6 people were unable to place into anything including SOAP and scramble. Several others had to settle for TRI or prelim spots. Very underwhelming. 1 ENT and 1 Uro were very lucky SOAP/scrambled into last minute. Source: good friend of mine is in this class.
I don't know their specific stories unfortunately, maybe some CCOM students can comment on that but I would assume take a research year and reapply, or I know my school can postpone your graduation by a year with a family leave of absence so you can reapply as an MS4, not sure if CCOM does this as well.so what do those people do? They can't even get a TRI? They don't become practicing physicians and have to find other career paths? I still don't get what happens to these people.
Very weak match list out of CCOM this year. 6 people were unable to place into anything including SOAP and scramble. Several others had to settle for TRI or prelim spots. Very underwhelming. 1 ENT and 1 Uro were very lucky SOAP/scrambled into last minute. Source: good friend of mine is in this class.
No idea, considering that they have had “100% placement” over the last several years, this is uncharted territory.I don't know their specific stories unfortunately, maybe some CCOM students can comment on that but I would assume take a research year and reapply, or I know my school can postpone your graduation by a year with a family leave of absence so you can reapply as an MS4, not sure if CCOM does this as well.
so what do those people do? They can't even get a TRI? They don't become practicing physicians and have to find other career paths? I still don't get what happens to these people.
Very weak match list out of CCOM this year. 6 people were unable to place into anything including SOAP and scramble. Several others had to settle for TRI or prelim spots. Very underwhelming. 1 ENT and 1 Uro were very lucky SOAP/scrambled into last minute. Source: good friend of mine is in this class.
Keep working hard, study well for your exams, learn as much as you can in clerkships, and audition like a champ. You can compensate with a great work ethic and a team player attitude.As a current CCOM student this is pretty disheartening not going to lie...
As a current CCOM student, I’m happy with the match results for the field I’m going in to.As a current CCOM student this is pretty disheartening not going to lie...
That's great, but like someone earlier said: I don't think our school should have that many people SOAP/scramble or go unmatched with how much tuition we're paying and the "amazing" reputation they try to portray...
Rads, Derm, PM&R, Optho, and Anes all require a transitional/intern year. Some programs have categorical positions where the intern year is built into the program, while some programs are advanced and require an outside intern year. There’s also other pathways that I won’t get into.Quick question: I see a lot of programs have "Transitional Year" matches that are separate from TRIs and Prelims. Googling transitional year makes it seem like these are desirable spots but I'm a bit confused on how this works in terms of residency.
Can anyone elaborate?
Very weak match list out of CCOM this year. 6 people were unable to place into anything including SOAP and scramble. Several others had to settle for TRI or prelim spots. Very underwhelming. 1 ENT and 1 Uro were very lucky SOAP/scrambled into last minute. Source: good friend of mine is in this class.
At least AZCOM can point to a decent match list, CCOM can't even do that.Wow, imagine graduating with $400K+ in debt and nowhere to go for residency.
It has honestly gotten to a point where taking a gap year to re-apply might be financially wiser than attending CCOM or AZCOM. Their tuitions have become criminally high.
Very weak match list out of CCOM this year. 6 people were unable to place into anything including SOAP and scramble. Several others had to settle for TRI or prelim spots. Very underwhelming. 1 ENT and 1 Uro were very lucky SOAP/scrambled into last minute. Source: good friend of mine is in this class.
DCOM match list. Only 5 went without any GME placement.
5 is too many. 1 is too many.... but I think it’s going to be the norm and most likely higher
It’s not “ONLY 5 went without any GME placement.”
What makes them so bad and undesirable?Can confirm, the CCOM urology match at SUNY buffalo was a last second scramble match. SUNY buffalo is notorious for being one of the worst urology programs in the nation. They had 3 openings and failed to fill....ALL 3 SPOTS this year! Not a good look.
Well, there's also quite a small applicant pool that would even be interested in pursuing that. It's not a common thing you'll find on match lists for any school.I’m all seeing zero I6 matches which has me concerned given my high interest in CT but also not surprised given its competitiveness.
I suppose for DO the path to CT will remain: GS —> CT
There are only like 30 something spots in the country.... a DO wanting I6 has to beat out applicants from top MD schools to get a spot. Even the MD match rate for I6 is extremely low. Any DO wanting CT should plan on doing GS->CT.I’m also seeing zero I6 matches which has me concerned given my high interest in CT but also not surprised given its competitiveness.
I suppose for DO the path to CT will remain: GS —> CT
I’m also seeing zero I6 matches which has me concerned given my high interest in CT but also not surprised given its competitiveness.
I suppose for DO the path to CT will remain: GS —> CT
Don’t worry my school hasn’t even released the match list. I’m guessing it’s not good is whyObviously it should be none. I was going to put quotes around only, but yeah. More was saying that because I expected it to be higher but glad it wasn't.
I’m also seeing zero I6 matches which has me concerned given my high interest in CT but also not surprised given its competitiveness.
I suppose for DO the path to CT will remain: GS —> CT
A decent amount of CT surgeons in general actually because CT was a fellowship that could even be had from an AOA program, but very few I6 trained. The last two years I don't think there have been any, although 3 years ago there were like 2-3 I6 matches or something like that.If you went to a DO a school to get I6 CT surg match, you’re going to have a bad time. I wonder even how many DO CT surgeons there are in the country
A decent amount of CT surgeons in general actually because CT was a fellowship that could even be had from an AOA program, but very few I6 trained. The last two years I don't think there have been any, although 3 years ago there were like 2-3 I6 matches or something like that.
Agree with @AnatomyGrey12 if you want CT as a DO, you’re likely going to do it via GS it seems. UC Davis has a few but I would never bet my medical career on it right now. The traditional pathway is what has produced CT surgeons until the I6 emerged in the 2000s so I suppose it could be worse.If you went to a DO a school to get I6 CT surg match, you’re going to have a bad time. I wonder even how many DO CT surgeons there are in the country
What makes CCOM list not great? and also the students there have stats similar to MD schools with a majority taking Step, why are they not matching well?At least AZCOM can point to a decent match list, CCOM can't even do that.
Because it still matters they are not MDs so they won’t match as well as them. It is what it is.What makes CCOM list not great? and also the students there have stats similar to MD schools with a majority taking Step, why are they not matching well?
Because it still matters they are not MDs so they won’t match as well as them. It is what it is.
What makes CCOM list not great? and also the students there have stats similar to MD schools with a majority taking Step, why are they not matching well?
My understanding is they also have a very old style curriculum and therefore underperform on boards compared to what you would expect with their entrance stats. I will say that as one of the oldest and most established schools, and with all their clinical resources available, they don't ever have as many competitive matches as the other established schools. And it's not just a "oh the class just didn't want competitive stuff this year" because it's literally every year. With the student body they accept there should be more competitive matches.
While the idea that the locus of control is certainly internal with regards to board performance, absolutely do not ,under any circumstances, underestimate the magnitude that your school can disrupt your ability to succeed. Don't listen to people whose line of reasoning is "it wasn't so bad and *look* I turned out fine so it worked"Does curriculum make that much of an impact though? I've always heard that it was more on the individual student to do well on boards rather than the pre-clinical curriculum, as long as classes aren't mandatory. Full disclosure: I'm actually deciding between CCOM, RVU-SU, and KCOM right now pretty much on the basis of is it better to have a good curriculum or clinical resources
Does curriculum make that much of an impact though? I've always heard that it was more on the individual student to do well on boards rather than the pre-clinical curriculum, as long as classes aren't mandatory. Full disclosure: I'm actually deciding between CCOM, RVU-SU, and KCOM right now pretty much on the basis of is it better to have a good curriculum or clinical resources
This happens at KCUCurriculum can hurt you far more than it can help you. Like @neopolyamth said, don't underestimate a schools ability to fill your time with meaningless garbage. I've seen students on here talk about their schools basically not having a dedicated because the school fills that time with random mandatory OMM and clinical junk.
I see. Would you say that this disruption comes in the form of less dedicated time for boards/mandatory attendance to BS during the week, or from the actual instruction of material? From what I could tell, the only things mandatory at CCOM are labs and OMT, and then they have Fridays off. Also couldn't this be said about clinical rotations as well? I.e. "My school did nothing for me and most of my rotations were preceptorships that I set up on my own, but I matched well so who cares?"While the idea that the locus of control is certainly internal with regards to board performance, absolutely do not ,under any circumstances, underestimate the magnitude that your school can disrupt your ability to succeed. Don't listen to people whose line of reasoning is "it wasn't so bad and *look* I turned out fine so it worked"
the TTC class is annoying, but come on, it's only 3-4 hours a week. It's not like we have something every day. There is plenty of time even after TTC ends to still study for boards and have it completed by the mandated date.This happens at KCU
RVU. They force their students to take step.Does curriculum make that much of an impact though? I've always heard that it was more on the individual student to do well on boards rather than the pre-clinical curriculum, as long as classes aren't mandatory. Full disclosure: I'm actually deciding between CCOM, RVU-SU, and KCOM right now pretty much on the basis of is it better to have a good curriculum or clinical resources
Yea, it sounds like a much better curriculum as well. I'm just nervous about the clinical sites since I'll be at the Utah campus and their inaugural class hasn't started rotations yet.RVU. They force their students to take step.
Some of us would be in another part of the country with friends and family studying for boards. Rent and other expenses have to be paid to continue to stay in KC, so it is not just 3 to 4 hours. Also, what was taught the first week that was not already known or talked about before. These labs have not been helpful. I think our faculty cares and wants us to succeed, it’s rushing this class through just because thats inappropriate. We have no idea what impact on boards this class will have and the cavalier attitude towards board preparation is concerning.the TTC class is annoying, but come on, it's only 3-4 hours a week. It's not like we have something every day. There is plenty of time even after TTC ends to still study for boards and have it completed by the mandated date.
Does curriculum make that much of an impact though? I've always heard that it was more on the individual student to do well on boards rather than the pre-clinical curriculum, as long as classes aren't mandatory. Full disclosure: I'm actually deciding between CCOM, RVU-SU, and KCOM right now pretty much on the basis of is it better to have a good curriculum or clinical resources
Really? I knew RVU is thought of highly on here, but I didn't realize the gap was that large. I dont know, it just seems like a risky decision to me to turn down two original 5 DO schools to go to the new branch campus of a school that was just acquired by the company that owns SGU. Would that fact that I would plan on living at home if I went to CCOM change anything since it would bring the difference over 4 years down to $50K?RVU >>> KCOM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> CCOM in my opinion.
KCOM has too much OMM (huge annoyance), and CCOM costs too much money.
This isn't close.
It's not often you see a well formatted list like this with literally no organization. I'm not even madTUNCOM doesn't look too bad this year. Could be one of their strongest matches ever (definitely making my school look bad). Any thoughts?
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