Is there usually a lot of movement in the WL? Do you know your place in the WL as an applicant or do you just have to hope that there will be enough movement to get off of the WL? Thanks!Don't pay to much attention to HPWL vs WL. My friend was in WL and he still got in the middle of May. As far I heard that almost all only get WL on the first release (typically Feb 1). He was ORM/OOS.