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Which is why it really kills me how some schools can get by without interviews. Am I right by saying that this is a little crazy, to select a class without hosting interviews?

I think so. I don't know how you can really even begin to assess the quality of an applicant's 'soft skills' on paper.

I've worked with some veterinarians who clearly were very intelligent people, but weren't cut out for working with the general public. At all.
 
If it's been studied so much in the med school process, then were the determinants actually MCAT scores and GPA? Because those really seem to be a larger focus in medical school admissions than GRE scores and GPA are in veterinary school admissions.

Honestly, with the kind of GPA that I had as an undergraduate, I definitely would not have been competitive for MD programs, end of story. I'd be pretty borderline for DO, even with an equivalent percentile of MCAT score to my GRE score (90+). Vet schools seemed more willing to look past that to other attributes (obv my sparkling personality :laugh:)

I'm not trying to be argumentative or anything, just pointing out that to me it looks like (at least generally) veterinary schools are trying harder than medical schools to look at an applicant beyond the scores already. So it would seem confusing to me that this would be the case if medical schools were already doing research in that area beyond vet schools.

nyanko, I see what you're saying--especially with all the cutthroat pre-allos out there. 🙂 Here is one such article--pretty novel way to approach med school admissions. Think any vet school would be brave enough to try the equivalent? 🙂 http://journals.lww.com/academicmed...raditional_Premedical_Requirements_as.26.aspx
 
Without clicking I think I know what you're referencing - the thing with the humanities students and the crash course in prereqs right?

Admission to that program was still based on high school & college transcripts and SAT/ACT scores, and they still have to stay above a 3.5 in their majors. All it really proved IMO is that the students they accepted into that program were equally intelligent and capable to start out with - they just majored in something different. It doesn't really say anything as to a numbers-based selection process IMO, since it's still numbers-based, just the numbers they're using changed.

I don't know that a similar controlled experiment is feasible for veterinary schools because getting enough students to have a significant sample size would have a larger effect on the proportion of all veterinary school seats in the country than the Mt. Sinai study did for all medical schools in the country. It would also require a "regression" of sorts to a more numbers-based system, considering that experience (and not necessarily NUMBERS OF HOURS of such) is another pretty big determinant for vet schools, and these students would be selected before gaining any (if it were parallel, they'd do some veterinary related stuff in the summer between junior and senior years of undergrad). Just my initial feeling in thinking through the problem and where the parallels would be.

I think moreso it speaks to the types of specialties that people with different backgrounds are likely to pursue after med school - most of the significant differences were in what residencies that the students chose and whether or not they did research. It's also worth mentioning that they did worse on step 1 which may have limited their options for residencies regardless of what their actual interest was, so that could be a confounding factor. Also, they were more likely to take an academic or personal leave of absence from the program - so there are definitely risks involved!
 
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I've worked with some veterinarians who clearly were very intelligent people, but weren't cut out for working with the general public. At all.

Please tell me you are aware that there are a lot of positions that don't work with the general public. I intend to hold one of those for a good portion of my first 10 years as a vet.
 
Please tell me you are aware that there are a lot of positions that don't work with the general public. I intend to hold one of those for a good portion of my first 10 years as a vet.

Oh, absolutely.

Admittedly, because of my own personal interests and experiences, careers that involve contact with the public are generally the first that come to mind. I do, however, get that there are plenty of positions where interaction with the public is minimal at best. I probably should have been clearer. (Massive comp-induced sleep deprivation= SDN FAIL.)

The veterinarians I was referring to chose to go into general practice, where human contact is essentially unavoidable. There certainly are veterinary positions out there where their deficits probably wouldn't have posed much of a problem. Unfortunately, for whatever reason, they elected not to pursue them.
 
The second part is excellent.

The first part is silly.

Everything on the internet that you don't agree with isn't a call to battle.

I think there were some disappointed people who missed acceptances they wanted, and were venting. If I got turned down with a 4.0, regardless of the circumstances, I'd be pissed for a few days too.

Deep breaths, killer.

One thing I will say about Sumstorm's posts is that they are always thoughtful. She writes a lot, and is one of the people on this forum with a wide enough background to contribute some sort of knowledge or experience to most discussions. While I don't always agree with her opinions, I do enjoy reading what she has to say.

That's the point of the this forum. Talk about stuff. She is not needlessly cruel, and I struggle to see where you get off criticizing her and the other posters when all you provide is substanceless snark most of the time
 
nyanko,

I know exactly what you mean. However, I think the study is worth taking a second look at because the pre-requisite requirements were SO different for students in these courses. I think an equivalent vet school study would have decreased hours of pre-requisites and much more emphasis on hours/quality of experience. In which case, less emphasis on numbers/more on experience and soft skills.

Did you look at the NAVMEC recommendations?
 
Armymutt and Sunstorm or whatever it is are just ticked off that someone exposed some faults of their perfect little process they're defending as if they designed the whole thing. They'll get over it. Commence with killing the messenger ladies and gents! :poke:
 
The second part is excellent.

The first part is silly.

Everything on the internet that you don't agree with isn't a call to battle.

I think there were some disappointed people who missed acceptances they wanted, and were venting. If I got turned down with a 4.0, regardless of the circumstances, I'd be pissed for a few days too.

Deep breaths, killer.

They're talking about me LOL. Their attempt to scare me off the board didn't work so they're a little pissy about it. :boom:
No worries!
 
Geez, what is it with this forum lately? Every time I check it seems like there's another argument.

FYI- it's OKAY to disagree with someone! The point is discussion/the sharing of opinions.
 
Armymutt and Sunstorm or whatever it is are just ticked off that someone exposed some faults of their perfect little process they're defending as if they designed the whole thing. They'll get over it. Commence with killing the messenger ladies and gents! :poke:

Critical analysis isn't your strong suit, is it? I couldn't care less about the process. Think of admissions as a turn style. You have negotiated the turn style successfully and now want to complain that the gears are out of alignment because your buddy didn't make it through. You offer up people who you believe must have jumped the turn style or crawled under it as proof it's broken. The truth is that your friend must have done something wrong in their approach to the turn style.

Maybe your friends need to take a different approach. When I put my application together, I did what I know - made it an information operation.
 
Critical analysis isn't your strong suit, is it? I couldn't care less about the process. Think of admissions as a turn style. You have negotiated the turn style successfully and now want to complain that the gears are out of alignment because your buddy didn't make it through. You offer up people who you believe must have jumped the turn style or crawled under it as proof it's broken. The truth is that your friend must have done something wrong in their approach to the turn style.

Maybe your friends need to take a different approach. When I put my application together, I did what I know - made it an information operation.

You know there's a process for going through a turn-style? And if you jump the turn-styles on the DC Metro you'll get arrested? Saw it happen once, pretty funny actually. Pardon me for looking out for the interests of other people as well. I'll remember next time that SDN is a forum purely for advancing your own interests. Kapeesh?
Analysis is actually one of my strong suits, the other is pushing buttons on people with no sense of humor. 😉
 
Geez, what is it with this forum lately? Every time I check it seems like there's another argument.

FYI- it's OKAY to disagree with someone! The point is discussion/the sharing of opinions.

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Analysis is actually one of my strong suits, the other is pushing buttons on people with no sense of humor. 😉

You keep taking exception to the way others are responding to what you're posting... I'm thinking easing off on the button-pushing a teensy bit might elicit a more favorable response. Just sayin'.
 
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You keep taking exception to the way others are responding to what you're posting... I'm thinking easing off on the button-pushing a teensy bit might elicit a more favorable response. Just sayin'.

For serial, it's sarcasm, it's supposed to be funny, like hahaha laugh. Not everything has to be so serious as a heart attack on here all the time. I can poke some fun at someone who outright dismissed my point of view because I'm not 55 years old and happened not to agree with them. Take y'alls own advice, you don't have to agree with me!
 
For serial, it's sarcasm, it's supposed to be funny, like hahaha laugh. Not everything has to be so serious as a heart attack on here all the time. I can poke some fun at someone who outright dismissed my point of view because I'm not 55 years old and happened not to agree with them. Take y'alls own advice, you don't have to agree with me!

I'm all for keeping things light (sometimes this place gets way too doom-and-gloom for my taste), but catty remarks and personal insults just don't strike me as 'funny'.

*shrug*
 
There are a few things that I feel really need to be changed Such as Cornell weighing both the GRE and your GPA as 30% each. How can they count your entire 4 year performance equal to one two-hour exam is crazy to me.

I think if we stop to consider what the adcoms have to evaluate, there would be a little less GRE-hating.

Unfortunately it is very difficult (ne impossible) to evaluate the difficulty of the school and courses that make up someone's GPA. 1 person takes physics with 3 college drop-outs and gets an A, 1 takes it at IVY U that grade inflates and gets an A, 1 one takes it at Football U and gets an A. Are they the same? Was the academic rigor the same? Were the other classmates they were compared to similar? Are the grading standards the same?

There is no way to really answer these questions objectively so adcoms need some way to evaluate whether applicants are being judged roughly comparably. The GRE is a way to quasi-normalize results. Got a 4.0 but a 1050 GRE? Sorry but that is questionable next to another applicant with a 3.6 and 1400 GRE. How about that 2.9 GPA with a 1500 GRE?

Is the GRE a great test? Of course not! Is there a better one? Not that I know of..... It is an attempt to at least have some semblance of thinking how to weight a high (or low GRE). Yeah some people don't shine on standardized tests, but mostly, they will do well enough to justify their GPA if it was deserving.

Obviously neither GPA nor GRE are great predictors of Vet school success, but adcoms as a whole are actually fairly good at not excluding people because they don't fit the mold.

Look at the c/o 2014 accepted applicant thread.
There are people with low GPAs, low GREs, low experience, low/no research. Each of them got in because they do something well that the adcoms believe will lead to a successful student. No one factor is most important across the board and I think that is pretty good.

Given attrition rates pretty universally of <5%, and the success at passing the NAVLE, it's hard to argue the system is completely broken. Certainly imperfect.

And for those of you who think things should ALWAYS be done right, spend some time in a job (like trading) where success is measured in small increments above 50/50. Your ego will be smashed down pretty darn quickly when you realize how hard it is to do in a non-academic setting.

Note*** I have no particular axe to grind here as my GRE and grades were pretty comparable (especially if you ignored some miserable finance and accounting classes from 20 years ago)
 
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I think if we stop to consider what the adcoms have to evaluate, there would be a little less GRE-hating.

There's always GRE hating. Lots of people have a lot of vitriol for standardized tests. Those people usually have high GPAs. I for one am thrilled with schools that weight GPA and GRE equally. Take a test that can help to balance out all the slacking and crap that I did before I figured myself and my life out? Yes please. 😉
 
I was talking to my husband about the GRE the other day. He's finishing a PhD stats program and we both think the GRE sucks as a test. But apparently there has been a lot of research on the GRE and it is correlated with how well a person does in grad school. Obviously there are always people who don't fit that mold, but that's true in any type of evaluation. And of course it doesn't predict how well a person will do once they've graduated.
 
I for one am thrilled with schools that weight GPA and GRE equally. Take a test that can help to balance out all the slacking and crap that I did before I figured myself and my life out? Yes please. 😉

Yeah, as ridiculous as I think the GRE is, I have to agree. My score wasn't amazing or anything, but it sure beats the heck out of my cumulative.

No complaints over here. :meanie:
 
I'm all for keeping things light (sometimes this place gets way too doom-and-gloom for my taste), but catty remarks and personal insults just don't strike me as 'funny'.

*shrug*

Well if you're going to be the etiquette police then you might as well start correcting everyone for being "catty" (I think smartass and catty are different but that's a non-issue) and not just me. If you'd like I can pull out a few of the rude things said to me so you can get started, or wait, would that just be bitchy? :shrug:

Sorry for the language, couldn't think of a better word.
 
Well if you're going to be the etiquette police then you might as well start correcting everyone for being "catty" (I think smartass and catty are different but that's a non-issue) and not just me.

Etiquette police? Not so much.

I just don't find the constant smartass remarks to be amusing.

If you'd like I can pull out a few of the rude things said to me so you can get started, or wait, would that just be bitchy? :shrug:

Do I think other users have said things that were less than kind? Absolutely. But it's hard to be overly sympathetic when you've spent the past 24 hours aggressively baiting people with rude and inflammatory comments.

I'm not trying to be argumentative. It's just... from where I'm standing, a lot of the ugliness you're complaining about appears to be self-induced, to some extent.
 
I did decent on the GRE, but don't think the way it is now is really an indicator to vet school success in my opinion. There aren't any science questions on the test, I think something that evaluated a test taker on all subjects instead of just math and English would be better. Maybe break the math section into a math and science and break English into English and social studies. A broader test. But I did pretty well on the GRE so I have no real complaints 😀
 
kas9ey sounds like me when I was 21/22, very defensive of myself and saw fault in everything. Now I'm almost 26 and I'm such a different person than who I was. Anything that went wrong in my life, I blamed everyone and anything else. Until I took a step back one day and realized it was me and not everyone else. Now, I learned to let things go and its a weight off my shoulders.

Kas9ey, I'm sure you are a smart girl since you did get into vet school. You don't have to constantly defend yourself to prove to others that you are right. Learn to listen to constructive criticism and try to see both point of views.

I love this forum for all the support the vet SDNers give to each other and hate to see threads like this. We aren't the pre-allos! I remember when twelvetigers and someone else picked up a SDN member from her surgery even though she didn't even know her. That is incredible! Who does that!? Most of us pre-vets and vets are good people and I'm happy to be joining a small community of people with the same mind set. So everyone, just relax!
 
Etiquette police? Not so much.

I just don't find the constant smartass remarks to be amusing.



Do I think other users have said things that were less than kind? Absolutely. But it's hard to be overly sympathetic when you've spent the past 24 hours aggressively baiting people with rude and inflammatory comments.

I'm not trying to be argumentative. It's just... from where I'm standing, a lot of the ugliness you're complaining about appears to be self-induced, to some extent.

OK you don't like my smart-ass sense of humor, fine, then don't read it. I don't care, I don't need to have the internet community praising my comedic adventures lol. A couple other people and I were having a fine and dandy giggle over it last night. What ugliness am I complaining about now? I'm not allowed to defend myself on here? If you're going to question me about something then at least expect a reply. You've already got it in your head that I can't say or do anything right. That's fine, it doesn't bother me.
 
kas9ey sounds like me when I was 21/22, very defensive of myself and saw fault in everything. Now I'm almost 26 and I'm such a different person than who I was. Anything that went wrong in my life, I blamed everyone and anything else. Until I took a step back one day and realized it was me and not everyone else. Now, I learned to let things go and its a weight off my shoulders.

Kas9ey, I'm sure you are a smart girl since you did get into vet school. You don't have to constantly defend yourself to prove to others that you are right. Learn to listen to constructive criticism and try to see both point of views.

I love this forum for all the support the vet SDNers give to each other and hate to see threads like this. We aren't the pre-allos! I remember when twelvetigers and someone else picked up a SDN member from her surgery even though she didn't even know her. That is incredible! Who does that!? Most of us pre-vets and vets are good people and I'm happy to be joining a small community of people with the same mind set. So everyone, just relax!

Woah woah woah you guys are taking my shenanigans waaaaaay too seriously! I think it's fun to banter back and forth. Yeah, if someone says something outright rude or challenging to me I'm going to volley it right back to them, I think it's fun. And you have to admit that a lot of what's said on here isn't constructive criticism, it's barbs and mud-flinging. Trust me, I know I'm coming across as a sadistic nut-job, that's why it's supposed to be funny! Take a chill pill!
 
The GRE is the great equalizer. If you look at it, everyone who graduated from HS has all the knowledge to do well. It measures your retention and your thinking ability - problem solving using simple tools. Asking specific questions about a topic would be quite unfair as advances have been made in the past 20 years, and some of us have learned things differently. Math has not changed in hundreds of years. I remember a thread on here mentioning something called a SNaP or something like that. Didn't sound familiar to me, so I looked it up. Seems it was discovered about a year after I graduated. I don't think I should be penalized for not reading journal articles in my spare time.
 
Woah woah woah you guys are taking my shenanigans waaaaaay too seriously! I think it's fun to banter back and forth. Yeah, if someone says something outright rude or challenging to me I'm going to volley it right back to them, I think it's fun. And you have to admit that a lot of what's said on here isn't constructive criticism, it's barbs and mud-flinging. Trust me, I know I'm coming across as a sadistic nut-job, that's why it's supposed to be funny! Take a chill pill!



Just because you tack on an "LOL" or a "HAHA" or a smiley face with the tongue sticking out doesn't mean what you are saying is "funny" or should even be taken that way. If I wrote to someone on here "You're a dumb bitch 😛" it probably wouldn't be well-received, and while the light-hearted icon is cute, it doesn't negate the words I said. While you did not use that particular language with anyone, you have said things that, although you INSIST are funny/witty/sarcastic, are pretty offensive and condescending. If you want to come on here and be rude to everyone and then act like you're the victim, that's fine. But don't hide behind such things as "smart-ass humor."

Your affinity for conflict and argument coupled with your lack of ability to listen to what anyone else on here has to say (because you're just cranking out your next reply) really shows your [young] age more than anything you have said or any idea you proposed to begin with.... and considering this thread makes up 95% of your activity on here, that's saying a lot.


Don't want to be treated like a child? Don't act like one.
It's that simple.

I've said my peace, and I'm done with this pointless thread. Feel free to quote/copy/message me. I won't be reading it. Unlike you, I DO have better things to do than banter with some kid who is just getting their jollies off of internet arguments. Congrats, kas9ey, you are the definitive winner of this stupendous waste of time.
 
Just because you tack on an "LOL" or a "HAHA" or a smiley face with the tongue sticking out doesn't mean what you are saying is "funny" or should even be taken that way. If I wrote to someone on here "You're a dumb bitch 😛" it probably wouldn't be well-received, and while the light-hearted icon is cute, it doesn't negate the words I said. While you did not use that particular language with anyone, you have said things that, although you INSIST are funny/witty/sarcastic, are pretty offensive and condescending. If you want to come on here and be rude to everyone and then act like you're the victim, that's fine. But don't hide behind such things as "smart-ass humor."

Your affinity for conflict and argument coupled with your lack of ability to listen to what anyone else on here has to say (because you're just cranking out your next reply) really shows your [young] age more than anything you have said or any idea you proposed to begin with.... and considering this thread makes up 95% of your activity on here, that's saying a lot.


Don't want to be treated like a child? Don't act like one.
It's that simple.

I've said my peace, and I'm done with this pointless thread. Feel free to quote/copy/message me. I won't be reading it. Unlike you, I DO have better things to do than banter with some kid who is just getting their jollies off of internet arguments. Congrats, kas9ey, you are the definitive winner of this stupendous waste of time.

:claps: Great response, libster06!

Edit: Sorry if that was uncalled for. I was exhausted and frustrated and my filter was failing. I still contend that libster06's post is spot on. This is why I just don't get involved in these threads, I should've known better.
 
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These arguments make me upset. For years I have thought of vet students/pre-vets as some of the most intelectual, critical thinking people on the planet. Surely, I thought, their people skills are incredible. Yet here are some of them fighting in a manner that reminds me of--no insult intended--children fighting over a swing on the playground. (I will not name you out of the respect that I still have for you.) I suppose the dissapointment I'm feeling is because I overestimated the average emotional control and debate skill found in this group (pre-vets and vet students).

If pre-vets and vet students can't get along and work with their peers now, how in the heck are they going to do it once they're vets? Will this lack of skill to get along with those who do not agree with them adversely affect their ability to be the best vets they could be? Some food for thought.

If I heavily insulted any of you there, I did not intend it, but I suppose it is unavoidable... The only way I cannot offend any of you is to not post. Sorry if I stepped on any toes. I still generally love pre-vets/vet students/vets, my heart just aches a little at the wonder of how widespread this getting along problem is.

I guess I shrug my shoulders when I see people fighting in a debate: I don't see the point. I see debates as an interesting, educational way to look at an issue from many different angles. How could that happened if everyone believed the exact same thing I do? I like it when people make me think!

Speaking of making me think, I second that I like to see it when Sunstorm posts. She thinks a lot, she's seen a lot, she writes a lot. Whether I agree with her or not her posts never fail to make me look at something in a way I never thought before.
 
nyanko,

I know exactly what you mean. However, I think the study is worth taking a second look at because the pre-requisite requirements were SO different for students in these courses. I think an equivalent vet school study would have decreased hours of pre-requisites and much more emphasis on hours/quality of experience. In which case, less emphasis on numbers/more on experience and soft skills.

It might be trivial, but what caught my attention was that they offered the HuMed students a summer-long 'catch up' kind of class (not graded) aimed at getting "acclimated" to medical school (right before matriculation). It was designed to review biochem, cell phys, anatomy, etc.

In spite of 'only' 75% of the HuMed folks taking it, they still performed as well as traditionally prepared students.

I thought that spoke as loudly as the overall study.
 
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And I'm the *******? I never said anything as remotely insulting as that to anyone in my life. Thanks for proving my point guys. Well done!
 
I think so. I don't know how you can really even begin to assess the quality of an applicant's 'soft skills' on paper.


There is some study out there (its been linked to SDN prevet forum before) that indicates interviews don't actually improve candidate selection, and may hamper selection, particularly in terms of diversity.

I'm not actually saying that there isn't room for improvement in the admissions process. I actually think that admissions is always trying to improve, and I don't think there are easy answers that are going to make it 'fixed' in everyone's mind. I also do think there is a great deal of diversity in the admissions process. I believe that's good, even if it means I didn't qualify for admissions to the majority of schools because some of my pre-reqs were 'outdated.' I just don't think we get there by throwing it out and starting over, citing accounts of incompetence and deception as the justification, particularly if we don't have concrete suggestions to improve the process. AVMA does call for volunteers among vet students to sit those panels.

I realize that my time is better spent elsewhere rather than having these debates. I generally use SDN as a break between study sessions and an oppurtunity to share some of the challenges and solutions that have worked for me. While I may have the occasional heated debate, I do spend a decent amount of time offering whatever helpful information I can, and generally answer every message I get as soon as I can. While I may add strife on occasion, I try to add at least as much value. my apologies if I have failed to do that overall.
 
There is some study out there (its been linked to SDN prevet forum before) that indicates interviews don't actually improve candidate selection, and may hamper selection, particularly in terms of diversity.

That's interesting... I'll have to play TT later on when I'm not busy cranking out a term paper and see what I can find.

While I may have the occasional heated debate, I do spend a decent amount of time offering whatever helpful information I can, and generally answer every message I get as soon as I can. While I may add strife on occasion, I try to add at least as much value. my apologies if I have failed to do that overall.

For whatever it's worth, even if we don't happen to see eye to eye on every issue, I always appreciate the thoughtful and informative posts. 👍
 
Hey guys,

Just a general reminder to keep things civil. We all have different life experiences and different perspectives that influence our beliefs and there's no need to delve into personal attacks on each other for having a differing point of view.

We're all pre-vets, vet students or vets--let's respect each other as future colleagues. 🙂
 
Geez, what is it with this forum lately? Every time I check it seems like there's another argument.

FYI- it's OKAY to disagree with someone! The point is discussion/the sharing of opinions.

I know... I have been kinda scared to post lately in fear of my head being decapitated. 🙁
 
I know... I have been kinda scared to post lately in fear of my head being decapitated. 🙁

I've been wondering if it is because of interview/acceptance/rejection stress? I don't remember this happening last year, but I think there have been a lot more "hot topic" threads than we have had previously. Maybe 'cuz people are bored and looking for a distraction? I'm sure we can somehow blame this all on the recession.

*takes a bite into her nutella and wholewheat sandwhich* Whatev. I'm just still on cloud nine that all I have to do now is WAIT. Interviews are done!
 
I did horrible on the GRE. 980. 4.0. But...

I never wrote the SAT (which I heard is good prep for the GRE)
I couldn't take a course
I didn't know all of the resourses I had available to me (the GRE threads started popping up after I had written)

Cool excuses bro.

You were here for like years before you took the GRE. Don't tell me there weren't threads about the GRE before you took it, there were threads about the GRE before you registered here ffs.

SAT not the same test, took it 8 years before GRE. Didn't take a GRE course either. Didn't use resources either. Welp...

Blame test anxiety, blame whatever else but BLAME YOURSELF first and foremost - it was you who scored poorly and you who needs to figure out how to do better if you don't get in.
 
...The only school I'm allowed to apply to gives interviews to those with the highest GPAs and GRE scores. No PS, no references, no supplementary, no nothing....
I do not think the process is fair at all. Actually, I think it stinks. Here, it needs some tweaking.

I think the Canadian system isn't really included in this discussion, since the bulk of the people here aren't falling under it. If what you describe is accurate, then yeah, it sucks. Sounds like a lot of Commonwealth schools though. If the English system is still the same as it was in '94, they have the same issues. Have you given any thought to applying to US schools or out of North America?
 
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx0Shn5Hvpc[/YOUTUBE]
 
Cool excuses bro.

You were here for like years before you took the GRE. Don't tell me there weren't threads about the GRE before you took it, there were threads about the GRE before you registered here ffs.

SAT not the same test, took it 8 years before GRE. Didn't take a GRE course either. Didn't use resources either. Welp...

Blame test anxiety, blame whatever else but BLAME YOURSELF first and foremost - it was you who scored poorly and you who needs to figure out how to do better if you don't get in.

Cool internet rage, bro.
 
Why assume there's any rage? idc if SH screws up the GRE or gets into vet school or whatever.

a bloo bloo it's all somebody else's fault when my life sucks or something bad happens
 
Cool excuses bro.

You were here for like years before you took the GRE. Don't tell me there weren't threads about the GRE before you took it, there were threads about the GRE before you registered here ffs.

I wasn't an active member until last year. Yes, I signed up back in 2007, but I checked the forum maybe once every couple of months because, HEY, someone would answer my question and I would go do other stuffs on the interwebs until something else came up.

FFS NYANKO. You have nothing better to do than follow me around SDN.
 
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