My, my, my. There have been many posts during my absence. I really appreciate everyone who has responded to this thread regardless of their stance.
Just few of my responses to some of the posts: " how far are we to extend reparations to descendants of the actual victims?" I must've just woken up from a mildly successful cryogenic experiment because I missed the beginning and end of reparations. Many cultures have received reparations, the Japanese, AI, even some holocaust survivors or the families of, but black ppl have been conveniently left out.
I see the many incendiary posts citing admissions should be solely merit based. Well, where are these ppl pushing for only credential based home loans where race seems to be a major factor? There is a study that shows that resume's toting afro centric names (LaTasha, LaDedrick) have significantly less interviews, even when education and experience has been controlled for, where is the retort from the ppl who believe that things should solely be merit based? The racial profiling that seems to be worthless seeing more black ppl need to be stopped than whites to lead to a single arrest. Where's the backlash? What about black ppl being incarcerated at significantly higher rates than white ppl from committing the same crime also controlling for criminal pasts. Where is the outcry for any of these processes to be overturned? Who knows where it is. Because it doesn't affect the majority. Look at how some ppl on this board react because 2 or 3 blk ppl are getting into med schools, which a significantly small amt of blk ppl are applying for. The racism I mentioned above happen to blk ppl everyday. So take the thorn in your side from AA, and multiply it by infinity, also the anger and resentment that some of you feel, and this is what an avg blk person feels like in this country. So many more things go against blk ppl and for the majority that it is ludicrous for such resentment to be spewed.
The ppl whose post sound similar to: AA just proves the assumptions that minorities arent as smart as others and its a slap in the face to those minorities with the grades because, their colleagues will assume they were admitted on the wing of AA. Ok, there are soooooooo many negative stereotypes, even stemming from the ones I mentioned above. Maybe ppl don't interview ppl with blk names because black ppl are perceived as unintelligent and lazy. Maybe the incarceration rates are higher for blk ppl with the same charges as others because they are already criminals when they walk in the courtroom; their skin says so; consequently resulting in tougher sentences. Maybe because black males are already stereotyped as criminals, the justice system believes they are doing society a favor by getting these criminals off the street before they really do something bad. Maybe blk ppl have a tougher time getting home loans, with similar credit as their counterparts, because of the stereotype that blk ppl default on loans, get evicted at higher rates, don't take care of homes or make neighborhoods unsafe and ghetto. The "perception" of others who do not even know if AA had any part of a blk persons admission is just another stereotype that doesn't necessarily have any direct consequence as the others aforementioned. All in all its just a menial drop in a full bucket.
I do agree that socioeconomic status should play a role in the admin process along with race. But you cannot compare poor white ppl with poor black ppl. Even judging from the very isolated case of AA, ppl would be surprised how much being the right color helps in this country. Those who do think all is well on the equality front...no comment.
To the person who drew the step ladder diagram, depicting blks at the top and Asians at the bottom. Again,for the very isolated case of some schools admissions process, in every facet of life that step ladder is the other way around, except with whites on top and not Asians; blacks are usually a the bottom, but this doesn't seem to cause such an uproar.
The thing about discrimination is that, yeah, a lot of the times its not done on purpose. Just like a blk judge might take a young black defendant under thier wing and give them a lighter sentence and maybe even conference with them to see whats the problem and set the young one on the right foot. I'm sure the same happens with other races. Whatever their race is. Asians are more inclined to help Asians, whites are more inclined to help whites, blacks are more inclined to help blacks. Even though ppl say they are equal, they have an inherent trait to respond better to someone of their same racial background. Even in health care. It has been proven through research that ppl get better healthcare from a physician of the same race. So I don't think that ppl intentionally discriminate against ppl of other races, they are just inclined to help their own more. Since white ppl are the majority, and control most things, they help each other more leading to the indirect disenfranchisement of others, especially those with whom already have extenuated circumstances that lead to their alienation.
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