Anesthesia Redux - A Basics WW Game Sign Ups & Game Thread

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Animal Midwife said:
If I have to assume reads, wolfy points get added. Given that you haven't voted or made many player-based posts, I'd have to do just that. It's why I ask things to reduce misunderstandings and harder pressure down the line.
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Lynch Animal Midwife

You're not being your usual you. You're like AMAM and it's giving me a tingle.

  • It's a bit weird to be riding me so hard :naughty: this early. Like it's been what, 1-2 hours since the game began? I've never seen you so rambunctious this soon.
  • You ride me for wanting literally everyone to at least say :hello: and think I'm wolfhunting? I mean, I am wolfhunting, but I can also accomplish that goal without being a douche.
  • You accuse me of not voting? KFC woman, only like what 5 players or whatever have posted? I'm not doing a lynch vote so damned soon. I am consistently patient on D1 to cast a lynch vote, so I'm within my play style.
  • No player-based posts? Again, at least I'm putting forth an effort to say hey to people.

To observers: This is not a fake fite btw. I'm pretty weirded out that AM is so aggressive out the gate. That's out of character. I'mma look into the MU Wikis. I know there's like Powerwolfing strategies. I think AM is powerbitching. Either way, I'll sleep just fine tonight with my lynch vote. But there's almost 24 hours where that might change.

:hello:
 
Coopah said:
Why you worried about making your post count? You can't participate enough?
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Like Pippy said, clinics. So if I **** post (I mean... strategy post) now and tomorrow goes to hell I've got myself covered 😛

In regards to the whole AM thing, she's acting exactly how I'd expect her to act given she's probably having an aneurysm of excitement for this game. This is like her crack, yo
 
Stroganoff said:
🙄 🙄 🙄

Lynch Animal Midwife

You're not being your usual you. You're like AMAM and it's giving me a tingle.

  • It's a bit weird to be riding me so hard :naughty: this early. Like it's been what, 1-2 hours since the game began? I've never seen you so rambunctious this soon.
  • You ride me for wanting literally everyone to at least say :hello: and think I'm wolfhunting? I mean, I am wolfhunting, but I can also accomplish that goal without being a douche.
  • You accuse me of not voting? KFC woman, only like what 5 players or whatever have posted? I'm not doing a lynch vote so damned soon. I am consistently patient on D1 to cast a lynch vote, so I'm within my play style.
  • No player-based posts? Again, at least I'm putting forth an effort to say hey to people.

To observers: This is not a fake fite btw. I'm pretty weirded out that AM is so aggressive out the gate. That's out of character. I'mma look into the MU Wikis. I know there's like Powerwolfing strategies. I think AM is powerbitching. Either way, I'll sleep just fine tonight with my lynch vote. But there's almost 24 hours where that might change.

:hello:
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I hope you realize the irony of this post, not including voting very early when you stated waiting is in your play style. You both want everyone to show up and post soon and also want me to not post. All of my things were true about where you are in the thread, yet it's somehow problematic I said anything about it. Regardless, I look forward to continued thoughts tomorrow.
 
Coopah said:
You've been on her dick since the start. Literally before things even got going. Feels like you picked a target and went for it, regardless of what she says. Feels like something a wolf would do
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Wouldn’t that still be NAI if it’s before then? Or are you doing more of a character defense at this point?


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I had to re-read the thread because as a lifelong victim of abuse, I'm familiar with the term DARVO: Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender. Basically it's a nasty strategy that flips the script.

So when I read Coopah's and Barkley13's posts:
Coopah said:
You've been on her dick since the start. Literally before things even got going. Feels like you picked a target and went for it, regardless of what she says. Feels like something a wolf would do
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Barkley13 said:
I don’t think it’s a fake fight but I also disagree with everything you have said including that AM started on you right out of the gate
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OK, so reading those two posts made me the bad guy and AM the victim. So I had to at least prove to myself that that's not how the conversation occurred:


I started by being helpful since I've never used the XF Bookmark feature before. It's handy.
Stroganoff said:
Ok the "Bookmark Post" is super useful. Totally just bookmarked the roster and added labels and tags.

Yo where'd everyone go? Wolf chat?
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AM then replied to me specifically asking a question that makes no logical sense on Day 1:
Animal Midwife said:
Is there someone you wanted to hear from?
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The reason this doesn't make sense is because we are all pretty much in the dark out the gate, so there's no reason I would want to hear from someone specific. Like "Yeah AM, I specifically wanted to hear from genny. She's been so quiet this game."

So I instead just responded in good spirits:
Stroganoff said:
Everybunny
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Everybody. I want everyone to say hi. No sweat.

But then she insists:
Animal Midwife said:
Like?
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Which is illogical and repeating the question she just asked. She already asked "Is there someone you wanted to hear from" to which I already responded. If this were court, a lawyer would say "Asked and answered" because I already answered "everybunny"

But she persisted with the same question by saying "Like?" That's when I knew she was being deliberately obtuse and intellectually dishonest. Then and only then was the time I decided to be snarky:

Stroganoff said:
Like @Animal Midwife. Anyone seen her? She's usually around asking like hella specific yet annoying questions.
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I was part playful and part annoyed. I thought it was weird she would target me out the gate on Hour 1, Day 1. This is like my 3rd or 4th Pre-Vet WW game, and AM is usually very good at grilling people -- and I LOVE that! -- but she usually does so with some kind of logical consistency.

What is out of her baseline behavior is she asked me the same question twice even after I already gave her an answer. That's weird. Hence:

1. Why I thought -- taking in context my understanding for her play style -- this is a bit out of character for her. Hence why I'm comfortable casting my vote in favor of lynching her at this juncture. Subject to change of course; and
2. Felt the need to defend myself in this post because even others like @Coopah and @Barkley13 are saying that I'm the one who initiated this when if you look at my posts from the game's get-go, I'm pretty upbeat and friendly. 🙂​
 
Coopah said:
So the wolves are hypoventilation, hypothermia, and hypotension? Done I named them, do I win? (This is totally studying btw)
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PippyPony said:
Chaos = hyperthermia

I know a cat who was burned by a bear hugger thing during anesthesia and had permanent scarring and fur loss 🙁
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Youre forgetting hypercapnia, the deadliest of them all!
 
Stroganoff said:
🙄 🙄 🙄

Lynch Animal Midwife

You're not being your usual you. You're like AMAM and it's giving me a tingle.

  • It's a bit weird to be riding me so hard :naughty: this early. Like it's been what, 1-2 hours since the game began? I've never seen you so rambunctious this soon.
  • You ride me for wanting literally everyone to at least say :hello: and think I'm wolfhunting? I mean, I am wolfhunting, but I can also accomplish that goal without being a douche.
  • You accuse me of not voting? KFC woman, only like what 5 players or whatever have posted? I'm not doing a lynch vote so damned soon. I am consistently patient on D1 to cast a lynch vote, so I'm within my play style.
  • No player-based posts? Again, at least I'm putting forth an effort to say hey to people.

To observers: This is not a fake fite btw. I'm pretty weirded out that AM is so aggressive out the gate. That's out of character. I'mma look into the MU Wikis. I know there's like Powerwolfing strategies. I think AM is powerbitching. Either way, I'll sleep just fine tonight with my lynch vote. But there's almost 24 hours where that might change.

:hello:
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Doggo Labs said:
I feel like am already behind on this game and its only been open a couple of hours...
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I got to this strog quote and feel like its a nice time for a break already
 
Stroganoff said:
I had to re-read the thread because as a lifelong victim of abuse, I'm familiar with the term DARVO: Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender. Basically it's a nasty strategy that flips the script.

So when I read Coopah's and Barkley13's posts:



---------------
OK, so reading those two posts made me the bad guy and AM the victim. So I had to at least prove to myself that that's not how the conversation occurred:


I started by being helpful since I've never used the XF Bookmark feature before. It's handy.


AM then replied to me specifically asking a question that makes no logical sense on Day 1:

The reason this doesn't make sense is because we are all pretty much in the dark out the gate, so there's no reason I would want to hear from someone specific. Like "Yeah AM, I specifically wanted to hear from genny. She's been so quiet this game."

So I instead just responded in good spirits:

Everybody. I want everyone to say hi. No sweat.

But then she insists:


Which is illogical and repeating the question she just asked. She already asked "Is there someone you wanted to hear from" to which I already responded. If this were court, a lawyer would say "Asked and answered" because I already answered "everybunny"

But she persisted with the same question by saying "Like?" That's when I knew she was being deliberately obtuse and intellectually dishonest. Then and only then was the time I decided to be snarky:



I was part playful and part annoyed. I thought it was weird she would target me out the gate on Hour 1, Day 1. This is like my 3rd or 4th Pre-Vet WW game, and AM is usually very good at grilling people -- and I LOVE that! -- but she usually does so with some kind of logical consistency.

What is out of her baseline behavior is she asked me the same question twice even after I already gave her an answer. That's weird. Hence:

1. Why I thought -- taking in context my understanding for her play style -- this is a bit out of character for her. Hence why I'm comfortable casting my vote in favor of lynching her at this juncture. Subject to change of course; and​
2. Felt the need to defend myself in this post because even others like @Coopah and @Barkley13 are saying that I'm the one who initiated this when if you look at my posts from the game's get-go, I'm pretty upbeat and friendly. 🙂​
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You've played with AM before yes? Aggravating, asking questions that are obnoxious, gets wolves somehow with that ****? Yeah. This is so totally within what I would expect of AM I'm not sure why you freaked out tbh. I also said I'd reevaluate if you calmed down. I don't need a play by play, I know how this started I was there. Get some sleep bud, I get being annoyed at AM. I do, I've been there. It also hasn't gotten me anywhere wolf hunting. I've gotten her lynched but also we lost like both times it happened.
 
Stroganoff said:
1. Why I thought -- taking in context my understanding for her play style -- this is a bit out of character for her. Hence why I'm comfortable casting my vote in favor of lynching her at this juncture. Subject to change of course; and
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Which part of it is out of her play style? She asked a question and then asked a different way since the answer of “everybody” doesn’t really say anything
 
Coopah said:
Oh did you mean the before things got going? I meant discussion not the game
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Ah gotcha, thought you mean that she was targeting AM before the game started and I am like “how would strong know if they were a wolf prior to the game starting?”


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Animal Midwife said:
I hope you realize the irony of this post, not including voting very early when you stated waiting is in your play style. You both want everyone to show up and post soon and also want me to not post. All of my things were true about where you are in the thread, yet it's somehow problematic I said anything about it. Regardless, I look forward to continued thoughts tomorrow.
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I remember playing a New Hampshire Hiking game in early 2019, and @cubsrule4e subbed in for I think StayingPositive. I remembered that cubs was tunneling me HARD and what I remember being odd was he kept saying things that were illogical to me.

You're doing that right now with the illogicalness, which is out of character for AM. You are usually logical.

Example:
Animal Midwife said:
I hope you realize the irony of this post, not including voting very early when you stated waiting is in your play style. You both want everyone to show up and post soon and also want me to not post.
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I'm from MO, so Show-Me. I want you to show me in my post where I said that I don't want you to post. For reference, here is my post:

Stroganoff said:
🙄 🙄 🙄

Lynch Animal Midwife

You're not being your usual you. You're like AMAM and it's giving me a tingle.

  • It's a bit weird to be riding me so hard :naughty: this early. Like it's been what, 1-2 hours since the game began? I've never seen you so rambunctious this soon.
  • You ride me for wanting literally everyone to at least say :hello: and think I'm wolfhunting? I mean, I am wolfhunting, but I can also accomplish that goal without being a douche.
  • You accuse me of not voting? KFC woman, only like what 5 players or whatever have posted? I'm not doing a lynch vote so damned soon. I am consistently patient on D1 to cast a lynch vote, so I'm within my play style.
  • No player-based posts? Again, at least I'm putting forth an effort to say hey to people.

To observers: This is not a fake fite btw. I'm pretty weirded out that AM is so aggressive out the gate. That's out of character. I'mma look into the MU Wikis. I know there's like Powerwolfing strategies. I think AM is powerbitching. Either way, I'll sleep just fine tonight with my lynch vote. But there's almost 24 hours where that might change.

:hello:
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I read it over again to see if I said anywhere in that post that I don't want you to "not post" (your words!). AM, this behavior isn't like you. The logical inconsistencies in my experience are wolfy. You are not only out of character by tunneling me so hard, but you are also out of character by being more illogical than your baseline.
 
Stroganoff said:
AM then replied to me specifically asking a question that makes no logical sense on Day 1:

The reason this doesn't make sense is because we are all pretty much in the dark out the gate, so there's no reason I would want to hear from someone specific. Like "Yeah AM, I specifically wanted to hear from genny. She's been so quiet this game."
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You asked where everyone went. Which implied to me that you thought someone who was active pre-game should be active again.
Stroganoff said:
Which is illogical and repeating the question she just asked. She already asked "Is there someone you wanted to hear from" to which I already responded. If this were court, a lawyer would say "Asked and answered" because I already answered "everybunny"

But she persisted with the same question by saying "Like?" That's when I knew she was being deliberately obtuse and intellectually dishonest. Then and only then was the time I decided to be snarky:
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Everybody, regardless of punnyness, is a non-answer regarding WW without discussing very specific instances like no one posting in a thread for hours at a time. Not sure what intellectual dishonesty means in this context.
Stroganoff said:
I was part playful and part annoyed. I thought it was weird she would target me out the gate on Hour 1, Day 1. This is like my 3rd or 4th Pre-Vet WW game, and AM is usually very good at grilling people -- and I LOVE that! -- but she usually does so with some kind of logical consistency.

What is out of her baseline behavior is she asked me the same question twice even after I already gave her an answer. That's weird. Hence:

1. Why I thought -- taking in context my understanding for her play style -- this is a bit out of character for her. Hence why I'm comfortable casting my vote in favor of lynching her at this juncture. Subject to change of course; and​
2. Felt the need to defend myself in this post because even others like @Coopah and @Barkley13 are saying that I'm the one who initiated this when if you look at my posts from the game's get-go, I'm pretty upbeat and friendly. 🙂​
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Again, I'm not sure what you're looking for if both meaning conversation that goes somewhere and not posting yet in the thread bothers you. I'm not even voting for you at this point in time, so the reaction to simple clarifying questions doesn't make much sense to me.
 
Stroganoff said:
I remember playing a New Hampshire Hiking game in early 2019, and @cubsrule4e subbed in for I think StayingPositive. I remembered that cubs was tunneling me HARD and what I remember being odd was he kept saying things that were illogical to me.
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Right, the same game you claimed n00b status through 2/3 of the game 🤣
 
Coopah said:
You've played with AM before yes? Aggravating, asking questions that are obnoxious, gets wolves somehow with that ****? Yeah.
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Yes, I've played a few times with AM. I believe in every pre-vet game. I disagree with you that her questions are obnoxious. They're usually very on point and not annoying. Even when she asks me why I feel a certain way, I can understand the logic behind why she asked it.

But this game? She's deviating slightly from her baseline.


Coopah said:
This is so totally within what I would expect of AM I'm not sure why you freaked out tbh. I also said I'd reevaluate if you calmed down.
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You're reading me wrong. I'm not "freaked out," and I'm quite calm, at least as calm as possible when I have to respond to 50 posts that keep coming.

Coopah said:
I don't need a play by play, I know how this started I was there. Get some sleep bud, I get being annoyed at AM. I do, I've been there. It also hasn't gotten me anywhere wolf hunting. I've gotten her lynched but also we lost like both times it happened.
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I wasn't giving you a play-by-play just for funsies and to waste time and space. I was going through evidence since you accused me of being on her dick from the beginning. Hence why I felt the need to break it down and give more color so that you can put yourself in my shoes.
 
Barkley13 said:
Which part of it is out of her play style? She asked a question and then asked a different way since the answer of “everybody” doesn’t really say anything
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That's illogical. I literally wanted everybody in this game to at least chime in and say hi or something. You're reading too much into my answer and twisting it. When I said everybunny/body I wanted a friendly meet and greet with the whole roster:

Roster:
1. Stroganoff
2. Animal Midwife
3. Doggo Labs
4. dolphin106258
5. Coopah
6. PippyPony
7. Stagg737
8. BigCats
9. genny
10. SARdoghandler
11. cubsrule4e
12. mmmdreamerz
13. Barkley13
14. mizchiefmanaged
15. Navilly​

Please don't twist something innocent and positive like saying :hello: as [your words] "doesn't really say anything." You're being obtuse.

(Happy belated birthday btw!)
 
Stroganoff said:
I remember playing a New Hampshire Hiking game in early 2019, and @cubsrule4e subbed in for I think StayingPositive. I remembered that cubs was tunneling me HARD and what I remember being odd was he kept saying things that were illogical to me.

You're doing that right now with the illogicalness, which is out of character for AM. You are usually logical.
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I'm pretty sure you have a 100% record of calling my posts/play some form of unusual, but okay. I can't get a feel on people unless I have a baseline for what your posts mean. Questioning is one of my avenues of achieving that. Illogical is kinda being thrown around as a buzzword at this point and I'm still not getting any of the issues.

Stroganoff said:
I'm from MO, so Show-Me. I want you to show me in my post where I said that I don't want you to post. For reference, here is my post:



I read it over again to see if I said anywhere in that post that I don't want you to "not post" (your words!). AM, this behavior isn't like you. The logical inconsistencies in my experience are wolfy. You are not only out of character by tunneling me so hard, but you are also out of character by being more illogical than your baseline.
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It's implied in your replies to me. As I stated prior, you think I'm too aggressive at this point in the game and should realize it barely started while "everyone" else needs to pop in because the game's started and therefore are "in wolfchat".
 
Animal Midwife said:
You asked where everyone went. Which implied to me that you thought someone who was active pre-game should be active again.
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You read me completely wrong, if that's any consolation. 🙂
I wasn't implying that at all. The game was silent for a while, so I just went "Hey, where is everyone?" That's all. Don't read too much into it since -- as we're seeing -- you appear to be grossly misreading me.
 
Stroganoff said:
Yes, I've played a few times with AM. I believe in every pre-vet game. I disagree with you that her questions are obnoxious. They're usually very on point and not annoying. Even when she asks me why I feel a certain way, I can understand the logic behind why she asked it.

But this game? She's deviating slightly from her baseline.



You're reading me wrong. I'm not "freaked out," and I'm quite calm, at least as calm as possible when I have to respond to 50 posts that keep coming.


I wasn't giving you a play-by-play just for funsies and to waste time and space. I was going through evidence since you accused me of being on her dick from the beginning. Hence why I felt the need to break it down and give more color so that you can put yourself in my shoes.
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Nah I think AM asked questions that make me want to pull my hair out all the time, and she's a damn good player (probably because of it *grumble*) but ok, you're sounding more frustrated village to me now. I might switch off, might not. I'm gonna let it ride tonight and see how I feel tomorrow
 
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Geez, y'all got off to a spicy start today! Got two exams tomorrow that I am ~not even remotely prepared for~ so all I had was one quick readthrough of the past few pages, but current vibe is frustrated villager for Strog and I'm feeling probably one wolf in the hubbub looking for an easy D1 lynch target. Not sure who yet and don't have time to analyze that today, doubt everyone involved is wolf, probably no more than one.
 
cubsrule4e said:
Right, the same game you claimed n00b status through 2/3 of the game 🤣
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The truth is on my side, cubs. That was my first WW game in Pre-Vet. I didn't understand a lot of the terminology like ISO and tunnel and sheep and tot, so I was playing catch-up very quickly. So just like it might have been your first Pre-Vet WW game, it was also my first game. So when I said I was a noob, I was telling the truth. 🙂

Mock me all you want, but I was Tracker, you acted weird, so I tracked you, you turned out as wolf. I then helped win the game. 🙂
 
cubsrule4e said:
New drinking game: Sip of your choice of beverage every time strog says "logical/illogical." One sip per or else we'll all be drunk and AM will be on a sugar rush.
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Look dude, I'm not your enemy.

I can take a ribbing and criticism. What I'm not cool with is publicly mocking me or humiliating me. Dead serious. We're here for fun, but don't make a drinking game humiliating me. We clear?
 
Stroganoff said:
Look dude, I'm not your enemy.

I can take a ribbing and criticism. What I'm not cool with is publicly mocking me or humiliating me. Dead serious. We're here for fun, but don't make a drinking game humiliating me. We clear?
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Why you taking this like some kind of personal attack? Clearly a joke.
 
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