Any 27-29 MCAT with interviews????

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FoodIsMyBFF said:
1. I know plenty of URM who have 30+ MCATs who have ZERO interviews and will have to reapply.
2. The heavy majority of the URM accepted with these numbers go to HBCU schools that most ORM are not applying to anyway.
3. We've all seen the charts so don't pull them up, there are so few URM anyway I can assure you that they aren't the ones keeping you out of med school.

Most importantly: If it bothers you so much then go start another thread yourself and state in the title that it is for non-URM only, I'd love to see how that goes. Please take your offensive post out of here. This is one of the most positive threads on SDN and it doesn't need this. I'm not addressing this further because I don't want to contribute to the thread being derailed. If you care so much, make a new thread, that is all.
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My "offensive post" had no intention of derailing this thread and I suppose that it was naive of me to think that there would be no backlash. But you know I'd love to think that not everyone is hellbent on being politically correct and that they are able to examine statistics objectively without making things personal. My real point is and perhaps I should have stated clearly in my last post is that if you are URM and are stating that you have had 9II and 4 Acceptances please include the fact that you are URM or don't post here at all because you are misleading the average individual that comes to this thread.

1. "Plenty"...may be a tad of an exaggeration. Assuming they have ok GPA's, ok people skills, and applied to more than just top tier schools then the stats would say your wrong.
2. I have no problem applying to or attending a HBCU.
3. You've seen the charts but you can't acknowledge that in the case of a non-URM vs URM with the same statistics, the latter in most instances will win. I feel like you are making some harsh judgements about me based on your interpretation of only one sentence. I have nothing against URMs. But I feel like in your head I'm saying, "Curse you URMs for keeping me out of medical school! It's all your fault!" Give me a break.
 
No offense @awildfandango have you applied this cycle? If you haven't, then have a piece of humble pie. Your post was offensive, because you're essentially saying that we have no right to post our stories in this thread because of our culture. Am I wrong in that assumption? Also, the language that you are using is pretty strong. How are URM misleading the average individual? This thread is for those who had MCAT scores of 27-29 and received interviews. We each entered the cycle understanding that the national average is 30+ and rising each year, but this was OUR place to share our successes, worries etc. This is and will continue to be a thread of encouragement! Many of us are excited that we will be entering the class of 2019, and if you'd like advice on how to best prepare then ask away! Otherwise, if you have nothing positive to say, please do us all a favor and find another thread to participate in.


Anywho, how's everyone else doing? I hope well! This cycle is almost over for us, and I am so excited to see how far each one of you have come!
 
awildfandango said:
My "offensive post" had no intention of derailing this thread and I suppose that it was naive of me to think that there would be no backlash. But you know I'd love to think that not everyone is hellbent on being politically correct and that they are able to examine statistics objectively without making things personal. My real point is and perhaps I should have stated clearly in my last post is that if you are URM and are stating that you have had 9II and 4 Acceptances please include the fact that you are URM or don't post here at all because you are misleading the average individual that comes to this thread.

1. "Plenty"...may be a tad of an exaggeration. Assuming they have ok GPA's, ok people skills, and applied to more than just top tier schools then the stats would say your wrong.
2. I have no problem applying to or attending a HBCU.
3. You've seen the charts but you can't acknowledge that in the case of a non-URM vs URM with the same statistics, the latter in most instances will win. I feel like you are making some harsh judgements about me based on your interpretation of only one sentence. I have nothing against URMs. But I feel like in your head I'm saying, "Curse you URMs for keeping me out of medical school! It's all your fault!" Give me a break.
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1. Unlike you I actually know these people's applications...
2. When did I say that you have a problem???
3. Would you stop putting words into my mouth? I never said that they wouldn't "win" in most instances. Please read properly. I also never said you had anything against URMs.

Again, if you care so much make another thread. Most people have stated if they are URM or not and if people have asked them, the majority have said whether they are URM or not. If they state that they are URM then you can go ahead and ignore it. If not then that is great for you, right?

Edit: Just want to reiterate the importance of reading the last part before you further comment.
 
f4reignbeauty said:
No offense @awildfandango have you applied this cycle? If you haven't, then have a piece of humble pie. Your post was offensive, because you're essentially saying that we have no right to post our stories in this thread because of our culture. Am I wrong in that assumption? Also, the language that you are using is pretty strong. How are URM misleading the average individual? This thread is for those who had MCAT scores of 27-29 and received interviews. We each entered the cycle understanding that the national average is 30+ and rising each year, but this was OUR place to share our successes, worries etc. This is and will continue to be a thread of encouragement! Many of us are excited that we will be entering the class of 2019, and if you'd like advice on how to best prepare then ask away! Otherwise, if you have nothing positive to say, please do us all a favor and find another thread to participate in.


Anywho, how's everyone else doing? I hope well! This cycle is almost over for us, and I am so excited to see how far each one of you have come!
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I'll quote myself from my last post...
awildfandango said:
My real point is and perhaps I should have stated clearly in my last post is that if you are URM and are stating that you have had 9II and 4 Acceptances please include the fact that you are URM or don't post here at all because you are misleading the average individual that comes to this thread.
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Congrats on being accepted! I was by no means trying to minimize your accomplishment of being accepted to medical school. Being accepted into medical school is a great accomplishment in itself regardless of URM status. I was not trying to be a debbie downer but I could see why people would think that way. I was just trying to point out that the average individual applying and matriculating to medical school as @FoodIsMyBFF aptly pointed out is not URM. So understand my point on saying please identify if you are URM if you are scoring a 27 and getting accepted to multiple schools while those that are not URM like myself more than likely should be concentrating on either applying to osteopathic schools or retaking the exam. URM is not the norm but the exception, hence "underrepresented."

"People these days smh!"...classic. And I was the one that was on course of "derailing the thread".

Well @FoodIsMyBFF when you say, "please take your offensive post out of here" it got me a little defensive. I'm done now, please nobody reply so the thread can get back to its original purpose. But sure maybe I'll create a thread.
 
awildfandango said:
I'll quote myself from my last post...


Congrats on being accepted! I was by no means trying to minimize your accomplishment of being accepted to medical school. Being accepted into medical school is a great accomplishment in itself regardless of URM status. I was not trying to be a debbie downer but I could see why people would think that way. I was just trying to point out that the average individual applying and matriculating to medical school as @FoodIsMyBFF aptly pointed out is not URM. So understand my point on saying please identify if you are URM if you are scoring a 27 and getting accepted to multiple schools while those that are not URM like myself more than likely should be concentrating on either applying to osteopathic schools or retaking the exam. URM is not the norm but the exception, hence "underrepresented."

"People these days smh!"...classic. And I was the one that was on course of "derailing the thread".

Well @FoodIsMyBFF when you say, "please take your offensive post out of here" it got me a little defensive. I'm done now, please nobody reply so the thread can get back to its original purpose. But sure maybe I'll create a thread.
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I'm an African American/URM applicant and I find nothing offensive about your post. As I was reading through the thread I was wondering the same thing... URM vs non-URM? Thus, it would be easier to see if an applicant's situation pertained more specifically to myself. All you said is that it should be stated or in another thread. NOTHING offensive about that. To my fellow URMers stop getting butt hurt over some silly bull $hit! Be grateful for your success and move on, there are FAR worse things in this world... like actual racism.
 
wannabeMD38 said:
I'm an African American/URM applicant and I find nothing offensive about your post. As I was reading through the thread I was wondering the same thing... URM vs non-URM? Thus, it would be easier to see if an applicant's situation pertained more specifically to myself. All you said is that it should be stated or in another thread. NOTHING offensive about that. To my fellow URMers stop getting butt hurt over some silly bull $hit! Be grateful for your success and move on, there are FAR worse things in this world... like actual racism.
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Amen. People are getting way too hellbent over such a harmless post that had no ill intent.
URMs are given leeway with their stats and it may give others a false perception if it isn't stated. He was in no means minimizing their accomplishments or belittling them.
 
I get where my fellow URMers are coming from... There is a very strong anti-URM sentiment on pre-Allo... And there are many times that I am deeply offended while reading certain threads but I can objectively say that this just wasn't one of those cases.
 
@wannabeMD38 Hey I understand where you are coming from. I will say however that just because you were not offended, it does not mean that I should not be offended. I get where @awildfandango is coming from as well, but to say that this forum should not be reserved for us is where I have the issue. This forum is reserved for those who received a 27-29, and received interviews.
 
wannabeMD38 said:
I get where my fellow URMers are coming from... There is a very strong anti-URM sentiment on pre-Allo... And there are many times that I am deeply offended while reading certain threads but I can objectively say that this just wasn't one of those cases.
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You weren't offended by "This should only be reserved for those who are not URM?" Sure the person corrected him/herself but all the @awildfandango had to do was ask if people could state whether they are URM or not. And for complaining about politically correct, get used to it because if you haven't noticed, celebrities/reporters/people of power lose jobs, endorsements, and more, for saying the wrong thing or saying something the wrong way. You can't just say whatever you feel like in real life, have a filter sometimes.
 
FoodIsMyBFF said:
You weren't offended by "This should only be reserved for those who are not URM?" Sure the person corrected him/herself but all the @awildfandango had to do was ask if people could state whether they are URM or not. And for complaining about politically correct, get used to it because if you haven't noticed, celebrities/reporters/people of power lose jobs, endorsements, and more, for saying the wrong thing or saying something the wrong way. You can't just say whatever you feel like in real life, have a filter sometimes.
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I tried to quit this conversation and end it on a positive manner but you're getting me hooked. Yes, I corrected myself and said that I should have worded my original sentence better. So do you want me to ask every single person that posts their number of interviews and acceptances on this thread if they are URM? How inefficient. Why not simply state it in the first place along with your stats and make this thread much more efficient and easier to read? Or simply don't post at all and mislead the average applicant that is viewing this thread. If you are a URM I'm sure that you've faced some type of racism or negative stereotypes in your lifetime, I'm guessing that posting your URM status anonymously online to serve as a resource for other students is no big deal. The point I was trying to make before this became a series of posts is this, if you are going to post on this thread and you are a URM please for the sake of your peers mention it and give us your insight on how you were successful, if you don't you are better off not posting at all because you are misleading the average applicant. If you don't agree with that then I give up on you. Yes, I'm aware and political correctness is not always a good thing but that is entirely different topic.
 
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f4reignbeauty said:
@wannabeMD38 Hey I understand where you are coming from. I will say however that just because you were not offended, it does not mean that I should not be offended. I get where @awildfandango is coming from as well, but to say that this forum should not be reserved for us is where I have the issue. This forum is reserved for those who received a 27-29, and received interviews.
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No one is saying this forum isn't for you, but from what I could tell, the intention of this thread isn't really suited for your case. That doesn't mean to say you shouldn't post in this thread, but it isn't helping the cause, especially if you don't specify being URM since that skews the perception.
The point of this topic in my mind, was to give the average applicant some hope after getting a 27-29. An URM 27-29 is not the same.
 
Verbatim Disk said:
No one is saying this forum isn't for you, but from what I could tell, the intention of this thread isn't really suited for your case. That doesn't mean to say you shouldn't post in this thread, but it isn't helping the cause, especially if you don't specify being URM since that skews the perception.
The point of this topic in my mind, was to give the average applicant some hope after getting a 27-29. An URM 27-29 is not the same.
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I agree 100 percent!
 
Last time I will post on this thread. It gave me SO MUCH HOPE last year 🙂

27 MCAT first take, 29 retake after having submitted my app in June.
3.8 science & overall GPA
Applied 11 allopathic
Invited to 8 interviews, attended 6
Rejected at 1
Wait-listed at 1
accepted to 4!!!!

It is possible, also I'm non URM for those curious. If you want to know more message me! 😀
 
27 first time (10/10/7), 29 retake (9/11/9)
3.71 gpa
OVER-represented minority
I was very pessimistic about the cycle going into it with my stats.
However, I do have about a thousand hours of non-medical volunteering. which honestly, anyone can do! (don't under-estimate this, y'all!)
And I'm assuming I had pretty good LOR's
submitted AMCAS in mid-june
Applied to 15 schools, all private allopathic
all secondaries in by august (and no more than 2 weeks after receiving)
I genuinely put my heart (and lots of time) into all secondaries, but I put specific (and maybe a tiiiiiny bit extra) effort into my top choice school
got one interview- at said top choice school
got one acceptance- at said top choice school
11 pre-II rejections
still waiting on the 3 remaining schools (though from stalking their school-specific threads it looks like they are all only interviewing for waitlists at this point).
that said, TBH I couldn't really care less about hearing from them anymore. . . :happy:

moral of the story: You don't need a 40+ MCAT or some super unique accomplishment to get in! (although, yes, those do help). find schools whose values match your values, and pour your heart into those apps!
and remember if you're swimming in rejections like I was-- it only takes one yes!
 
29 mcat 3.81 cum 3.7 sci. I can apply the very first day of the upcoming cycle. Non-trad. Spanish speaker (with degree). I am thinking about applying to 20 MD and 5 DO. Do you think I should apply to fewer? I will probably have to take a loan to do this.
 
SCooFS said:
29 mcat 3.81 cum 3.7 sci. I can apply the very first day of the upcoming cycle. Non-trad. Spanish speaker (with degree). I am thinking about applying to 20 MD and 5 DO. Do you think I should apply to fewer? I will probably have to take a loan to do this.
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20 is a good number for MD schools with those numbers. I wouldn't go lower. Just make sure it's a good list of schools.
 
einsteinm said:
20 is a good number for MD schools with those numbers. I wouldn't go lower. Just make sure it's a good list of schools.
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Any schools come to mind that I might not have thought of? I'm applying to all privates with the lowest mcats + my state school and one other state school where I have connections
 
SCooFS said:
Any schools come to mind that I might not have thought of? I'm applying to all privates with the lowest mcats + my state school and one other state school where I have connections
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Check out the 'What are my chances' section. Goro has given great advice there in terms of schools to apply to making sure those privates aren't mission based, etc.
 
SCooFS said:
Any schools come to mind that I might not have thought of? I'm applying to all privates with the lowest mcats + my state school and one other state school where I have connections
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I noticed that a lot of people who have had luck at the same schools as me sometimes also applied to Duke and Tufts and have received IIs. I didn't think I would have had a shot there before this cycle, regret not applying there now.
 
GranD14 said:
I noticed that a lot of people who have had luck at the same schools as me sometimes also applied to Duke and Tufts and have received IIs. I didn't think I would have had a shot there before this cycle, regret not applying there now.
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Just found out this thread existed. Do you guys think I have a chance at allopathic schools? I graduated from a good school in MA and am a MA native, which is great in some respects but it essentially means I'm in a densely populated state with tons of med hopefuls.

Here are my stats...
Not URM, but am definitely socioeconomically disadvantaged
GPA 3.6ish, sGPA a bit lower I think
MCAT 28 ... verbal kept me down (8), my sciences were (10) apiece
Been out of school now for 3 years accruing clinical research experience
Did a bunch of things in college

Would love to stay around the area though......
 
Quick Question: Why didn't my friend get any interviews?
GPA: 3.97, BS Biology, MCAT 29, all around good ECs, submitted amcas on day 1 and applied early. No interviews, not even from in-state schools (he's a New Yorker). Hearing his story scared the s*it out of me applying with 29...any possible thoughts on what happened to get him such bad luck?
 
MedBlue515 said:
Bumping this- studying for a retake is not going well, think I hit a wall and am starting to worry about doing worse on the new exam... looks like I'll most likely be applying with my 9/8/10. Wish me luck!
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good luck dude- hope the admissions are on your side, cause everyone on this thread is 🙂
 
As a New Yorker, that scares me a bit haha. But I don't know if we really benefit that much compared to other states and their state schools, maybe upstate and buffalo are more willing to pull from in state with lower stats, but downstate and stony brook I'm not so sure about. I think their averages are still around 31/32
 
Dr. Stalker said:
Quick Question: Why didn't my friend get any interviews?
GPA: 3.97, BS Biology, MCAT 29, all around good ECs, submitted amcas on day 1 and applied early. No interviews, not even from in-state schools (he's a New Yorker). Hearing his story scared the s*it out of me applying with 29...any possible thoughts on what happened to get him such bad luck?
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Every year, even a ton of great applicants with better stats are rejected without any interviews. Unfortunately, none of us can answer this question, most of the shortcomings on an app are what we can't see (lors, IAs, poorly written PS and secondaries - both very common, school selection - prob most common, etc)

If possible, they should consult other advisors or folks who can help them target said weaknesses.

Hang in there, everyone else!
 
Dr. Stalker said:
Quick Question: Why didn't my friend get any interviews?
GPA: 3.97, BS Biology, MCAT 29, all around good ECs, submitted amcas on day 1 and applied early. No interviews, not even from in-state schools (he's a New Yorker). Hearing his story scared the s*it out of me applying with 29...any possible thoughts on what happened to get him such bad luck?
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I got interviewed at every state school in New York with an MCAT of 27 and a GPA of 3.69. Every interview I attended I was accepted. Your friend probably does not have exceptional recommendations, or his personal statement might be either too weak or too cliche.
 
MedBlue515 said:
As a New Yorker, that scares me a bit haha. But I don't know if we really benefit that much compared to other states and their state schools, maybe upstate and buffalo are more willing to pull from in state with lower stats, but downstate and stony brook I'm not so sure about. I think their averages are still around 31/32
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these stats fall in line kind of falls in line with @MedBlue515
Like @RHL ONE said, it may have been their ECs and the rest of the app that fell short as opposed to their scores. But then again, a lot of us are the exceptions rather than the rule.

upstate and buffalo median mcat is 32, downstate and stony is at 33.

IS Matriculation % / MCAT 10% percentile
Upstate - 93% / 28
Buffalo - 89% / 27
Downstate - 87% / 30
Stony - 77% / 30
 
Dr. Stalker said:
Quick Question: Why didn't my friend get any interviews?
GPA: 3.97, BS Biology, MCAT 29, all around good ECs, submitted amcas on day 1 and applied early. No interviews, not even from in-state schools (he's a New Yorker). Hearing his story scared the s*it out of me applying with 29...any possible thoughts on what happened to get him such bad luck?
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As the others have said, really is more than numbers. The rest of your application holds weight too. As RHL ONE said, I also had interviews at all NY schools. Really goes to show numbers aren't everything.
 
@RHL ONE and @NervousNerd Congrats on being accepted! Where did you both decide to go?

Any recommendations for someone hoping for a SUNY acceptance this cycle and do you think there was any particular thing that made you stick out as an applicant? I'm pretty confident in my application as a whole, the MCAT felt like the last puzzle piece that just will not work for me... :shrug:
 
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i'm also a native new yorker and i'm looking for some in-state love, particularly @ SUNY Downstate and @ SUNY Stony Brook. Yeah i guess it is a crapshoot. I was just appalled when he told me he had 0 interview invitations. I can see someone completely bombing an interview, but to not even get an II despite applying early and such kinda freaked me out.
 
MedBlue515 said:
How many schools total did he apply to? Any idea of his interviewing skills? Were his letters mediocre or possibly bad?

(Please say something that doesn't lead to me freaking out also haha)

Are you also applying this upcoming cycle?
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Given my colleague's complete lack of success and mine and his stats being very close I'm debating whether or not to apply D:. How about you???
 
Dr. Stalker said:
Given my colleague's complete lack of success and mine and his stats being very close I'm debating whether or not to apply D:. How about you???
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Hoping for downstate or stonybrook as well!

I'm 100% applying. I graduated a few years back and absolutely CANNOT wait any longer lol. I'll be applying DO as well, really like PCOM and NYITCOM. I just also very much like the idea of instate tuition and proximity to home for those two SUNYs.
 
MedBlue515 said:
Hoping for downstate or stonybrook as well!

I'm 100% applying. I graduated a few years back and absolutely CANNOT wait any longer lol. I'll be applying DO as well, really like PCOM and NYITCOM. I just like the idea of instate tuition and proximity to home more for those two SUNYs.
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if proximity is a big factor (which it is for me too) why not add in Tourocom?
 
Dr. Stalker said:
if proximity is a big factor (which it is for me too) why not add in Tourocom?
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Ah yes I will be! I have visited those two schools before that's why I mentioned them. I'll probably do Touro, Rowan, PCOM, NYITCOM and probably LECOM and Nova as well

I'm going to max out a credit card very badly this summer...
 
Dr. Stalker said:
Given my colleague's complete lack of success and mine and his stats being very close I'm debating whether or not to apply D:. How about you???
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Definitely apply if you are IS. Not doing so guarantees a rejection. You won't know until you try. I am also another >3.9gpa and <30 applicant, accepted to SB.
 
MedBlue515 said:
@RHL ONE and @NervousNerd Congrats on being accepted! Where did you both decide to go?

Any recommendations for someone hoping for a SUNY acceptance this cycle and do you think there was any particular thing that made you stick out as an applicant? I'm pretty confident in my application as a whole, the MCAT felt like the last puzzle piece that just will not work for me... :shrug:
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For New York schools during my cycle:
Accepted to Upstate and UB. WL at stony brook. Turned down interview at downstate in leu of my acceptance. Will be matriculating at Upstate!
 
meupatdoes said:
I scored a 28 (10-9-9). I had 6 II. It only came up in one interview. However, it wasn't why you scored low or why you didn't retake. It was just how did you study for the MCAT. However, a lot of my interviews were blinded to GPA/MCAT.
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+1 I received 7 II and attended 6. Had a 27 MCAT and the only time an interviewer mentioned my score was to say that he wasn't worried about it. In other interviews where I had to address weaknesses, the only thing that came up was my one and only C+ lol.
 
f4reignbeauty said:
+1 I received 7 II and attended 6. Had a 27 MCAT and the only time an interviewer mentioned my score was to say that he wasn't worried about it. In other interviews where I had to address weaknesses, the only thing that came up was my one and only C+ lol.
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Mind sharing which schools you interviewed at?
 
MedBlue515 said:
question for you guys- were you ever asked about your score/why you didn't retake (if you only sat for it once) on an interview?
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Never. I actually brought it up at one interview because I was asked if I could, what I would change o my application. The interviewer responded saying a 29 wasn't a bad score at all.
 
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