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Let's see here: ~3.5 and 29
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What do you guys think about my chances of getting an acceptance are?
👍 Thank you. I've been thinking about this for a while.. in theory an average means half the scores are above and half are below. Although, I believe the MSAR reports median mcat scores.
... and the mother****ers act like they forgot about dre.
SCI GPA - 3.95
GPA - 3.4 AMCAS (3.7 UGRAD)
MCAT - 28M
Research, volunteer experience, leadership exp and clinical experience
11/19/09 ::::3 MD/PhD Invites:::::0 MD invites
not bad, eh ?
👍👍👍 Congratulations!!I just got accepted to my first medical school!! It can be done with a lower MCAT! Good luck!
I just got accepted to my first medical school!! It can be done with a lower MCAT! Good luck!
I just got accepted to my first medical school!! It can be done with a lower MCAT! Good luck!
the truth is far from this IMO. in my experience, i was helped TREMENDOUSLY in both college and beyond from the lifetime of advantaged learning i received. college is can't make up for this difference. i took a class on a related subject and here's some food for thought - when controlled for socioeconomic status, african americans still score SIGNIFICANTLY less on the SATs than white students. VERY interesting phenomenon.
I just got accepted to my first medical school!! It can be done with a lower MCAT! Good luck!
Bro, you have close to a 4.0 gpa. why are you shock?
My 7 in verbal was making me feel a bit uneasy about getting outright accepted, but overall it was just a shock for me to realize that I will have the opportunity to pursue my lifelong dream...i still can't believe it!
I don't understand, I feel I fit the profile of the somewhat low MCAT/ high GPA and I haven't gotten a single allopathic interview. I have a 3.974 GPA with a 30O MCAT and haven't heard anything yet. I am a Chicago resident and really only applied to schools in the midwest. I worked at a hospital for two years, shadowed a lot, have my EMT license, was on a sports team all four years, involved in plenty of campus organizations/clubs, and received quite a few awards/honors. Anyone have an idea why I haven't gotten any interviews thus far? Thanks.
I agree. I grew up white in the suburbs, but had to drop out of college to help my mother when my little brother ended up in the hospital when we had no health insurance. We lived just above the poverty line, and she was too damn proud to accept "charity," and it derailed my first attempt to get my bachelor's degree. I'm not at all bitter, because my brother and the rest of my family are doing really well now, and I have to believe that everything happens for a reason.
Still, there's no controlling for complicated situations. While my mother worked incredibly hard to keep us in a school district that sent basically everyone to excellent universities, we were still at a disadvantage simply because my mother was not equipped to work miracles.
I can only place faith in ADCOMs to really look at each applicant as an individual and not just a synthesis of numbers. Schools that don't do that are probably not a good match for me, anyway. My GPA is good...I haven't crunched the numbers recently, since my grades are from three different schools, but it's at least a 3.6 or 3.7. I still have to take my MCAT. I don't expect special consideration for being non-traditional, but I hope they look at my 10 years of clinical experience, and the fact that I'm doing this on my own because I want to do it, and I've already taken a tremendous risk to pursue medicine.
It may be "unfair" to give URMs and non-trads an "advantage" in terms of numbers, but I don't think they do so lightly. I know we all have millions of stories about friends and people we've known who have or have not gotten into schools, so forgive me for sharing this one, but it's real and it's poignant.
I have one friend who is black and had a 3.3 GPA and 29 on her MCAT who grew up in a similar situation to mine. I always admired her tenacity...she had to help her mother and younger siblings, but managed to stay on track...she did it all. She was president of some honors society, a volunteer in a local cancer center from the time she was 16 until she graduated at 22, and worked nearly full-time to supplement her mom's income. She was accepted at NYU, Penn State, UPenn, and SUNY Downstate and Upstate, as well as a few others, I think. She chose SUNY Upstate because they offered her a full ride.
I have another friend (from high school) who is also black but grew up with two professional parents who saved enough for her to attend an Ivy League school. She went to Dartmouth, earned a 3.6 GPA and 32Q MCAT, and had great recommendation letters and plenty of pre-med activities. She had no problem getting into medical school, but it wasn't like they rolled out the red carpet for her. Listening to most stories, you would think the process is biased, but she didn't have any advantage over anyone else.
For all we know, she was rejected in favor of another black student who came from a disadvantaged background. Point is, we DON'T know, and we should have some faith that someone is really looking into who we are before making decisions about our fate in their school.
When did you submit your application? That can be a factor into when you hear back about interviews.
I hope you hear something soon👍 Good luck!
29 MCAT, 11 interviews. Numbers don't tell the whole story!
hey, so my secondaries were totaly complete by mid-november, I know Im kicking myself for not doing them earlier 🙁. Are my chances completely blown then with a 29Q MCAT and 3.5GPA, 3.0science? Does anyone know around when I should expect to be getting a response from schools ie rejections/interviews? Thanks
29 MCAT, 11 interviews. Numbers don't tell the whole story!
Nice! What was your GPA if you don't mind me asking, and also where did you get interviews from?
cumGPA 3.4, sciGPA 3.2. Check my MDapps profile to see the interviews. But they included some good schools, Case Western, BU, GW, Jefferson, etc.
I don't know precisely what she got, but I'm pretty sure it was sub 30. She's a pretty incredible girl though, probably close to a 4.0 at a top school and a generally good and motivated person. She got into better schools than I will get into with an MCAT 10 points higher... JHU, Yale, etc... If your score is sub 30 and reflects your general ability, then you're in trouble, but if you know and it's obvious to others that you are better than that then you can still be alright. You can also always take it again.
probably helped that they attended a Top 10 school.....and like I said in another thread, the more URMs, the better (look at how many URMs and foreign grads staff Mayo, one of the best clinics on the face of the planet👍).Just my opinion, but seems kind of strange. I have a 30 mcat, with a 3.97 gpa, good health care exp and ECs, and didn't even get a single allopathic interview, and here you get into schools like Rush. I really don't understand this process sometimes. I mean, I noticed you're an URM, but does that play that big of a part in getting accepted? I don't intend to be mean if you take it as such, I just feel I should have gotten something more than nothing at all! Congratulations though, you got into some good schools!
I agree. My 27 MCAT could have been the end for me, but my high GPA, EC's & LORS had some schools looking beyond the MCAT. I feel really blessed!I think the people that post on this represents a pretty small percentage of what really happens with a lower MCAT. Some of them have really great GPAs as well. I also know of 4-5 people with below 30 MCAT and 3.5 and lower GPAs that couldn't get any interviews. I think it is important to read about where these applicants live and their other factors. Or else it would seem really unfair that someone with similar stats could get 11 interviews and others with none. This whole process is so fickle sometimes. But keep dreamin!
Just my opinion, but seems kind of strange. I have a 30 mcat, with a 3.97 gpa, good health care exp and ECs, and didn't even get a single allopathic interview, and here you get into schools like Rush. I really don't understand this process sometimes. I mean, I noticed you're an URM, but does that play that big of a part in getting accepted? I don't intend to be mean if you take it as such, I just feel I should have gotten something more than nothing at all! Congratulations though, you got into some good schools!
I know you aren't trying to be mean, it's just frustrating when this process doesn't make any sense. Having been on the fortunate side of interviews and acceptances with low stats, I believe that numbers are only a small part of the admissions process if your essays, letters of rec, and EC's are superb. If you have enough substance there that they are interested to meet you (ie invite you to interview) you can certainly bring it home if you are a great interviewer. At that point, the numbers aren't that big of a deal. What I will say, is that my being Hispanic has helped in ways I won't ever fully understand. Also, know that my ECs are top notch with a few years working in a level one trauma center as an ED Technician, also working 911 as an EMT etc. I got great recs from Attendings who knew me and also a ton of patient care experiences to talk about in my essays. Overall, is it fair? Probably not at all. I'm sorry, we all just have to put our best foot forward and then cross every hair on our body that things will work out.
I know you aren't trying to be mean, it's just frustrating when this process doesn't make any sense. Having been on the fortunate side of interviews and acceptances with low stats, I believe that numbers are only a small part of the admissions process if your essays, letters of rec, and EC's are superb. If you have enough substance there that they are interested to meet you (ie invite you to interview) you can certainly bring it home if you are a great interviewer. At that point, the numbers aren't that big of a deal. What I will say, is that my being Hispanic has helped in ways I won't ever fully understand. Also, know that my ECs are top notch with a few years working in a level one trauma center as an ED Technician, also working 911 as an EMT etc. I got great recs from Attendings who knew me and also a ton of patient care experiences to talk about in my essays. Overall, is it fair? Probably not at all. I'm sorry, we all just have to put our best foot forward and then cross every hair on our body that things will work out.
I'm sure I got screened out of a good number of schools with my 7 in verbal. That said, I am not URM & managed to get 5 interviews to this point, one acceptance, one high priority waitlist and no rejectionsI agree with you too, but I feel I did have a good complete package (at least I thought so!). I also was an EMT in the ED at my local hospital and had a good LOR from a physician there. My secondaries were read by quite a few people/faculty and I know my PS was probably only average. I always knew a good gpa/mcat wasn't the only factor in getting in, which is why I started early in my volunteering and becoming active. I guess that's why I'm so frustrated. One thing that could have hurt me was that my 30 mcat was not distributed very evenly, my verbal was pretty low, and I know a few schools only interview candidates with 8's/9's across the board, and my verbal was a 7. So even though my total was above it, I might have been screened out because of that. Anyone think that would be a reason?
I agree with you too, but I feel I did have a good complete package (at least I thought so!). I also was an EMT in the ED at my local hospital and had a good LOR from a physician there. My secondaries were read by quite a few people/faculty and I know my PS was probably only average. I always knew a good gpa/mcat wasn't the only factor in getting in, which is why I started early in my volunteering and becoming active. I guess that's why I'm so frustrated. One thing that could have hurt me was that my 30 mcat was not distributed very evenly, my verbal was pretty low, and I know a few schools only interview candidates with 8's/9's across the board, and my verbal was a 7. So even though my total was above it, I might have been screened out because of that. Anyone think that would be a reason?
We're all too neurotic on here.
QFT. Serious i couldnt say it better myself. For those like myself and reidmike with <30 mcats you have to play up something else about yourself that makes you stand out or so good or at least so interesting that they could care less about the mcat. For me I know that the reason im doing well despite my <30 mcat is because i played up the one part of my application that I know could really set me over the top. I didnt think it would help me as much as it did, but i mean from my PS to my secondary, i tried to tie in these few experiences and things to really set me apart.I think your frustration is valid, especially since other people, with similar stuff, are getting interviews/acceptances. The hardest thing to predict is how someone is going to view your application when they are reading it. These people read tons and tons of essays/applications and if something doesn't jump out at them immediately, they wont have any reason to give someone an interview. I think a strong PS makes a big difference. I know mine was kickass (sorry if that sounds arrogant) and I think it helped a lot. Also, I tried to play up the things I knew made me unique, like being a professional musician with 2 all original CD's produced during college. There are simply so many people that have good stats, shadowing, even EMT experience, and some other hobby that its hard to separate them in the adcoms mind. If I had any advice to give people planning to apply for medical school it would be to find what makes you stand out the most, and play it up hardcore. It also isn't too late. Of the schools you haven't heard from, figure out which ones you want to go to the most and send an update/letter of interest stating exactly why you think you'd be a good fit. At this point, it's worth pulling out all the stops, right? I still think things will work out for you it just might not happen as early as some of these SDNers have been fortunate to experience. Just try to keep as hopeful as possible and realize the more you try to make sense of this process, the more frustrated you'll become. It simply doesn't make sense! And constantly reading SDN doesn't help haha. I'd try and take a break from it. We're all too neurotic on here. Sorry again and good luck Wildebeest!
Do you think it's reverse discrimination?