Well, with a combination of Vitamin C, acai berry, and pit-viper testicle extract taken in the week before to strengthen the bones you'd be amazed at what you can do. Haha, just kidding.
Those guys were doing it as stunts, not because they don’t believe in parachutes lol. The boxes guy actually had a parachute on him just in case he couldn’t make the boxes.
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Sometimes I think that if God exists, He definitely has a sense of humor or an even richer sense of irony:
Patients overdosing on ivermectin backing up rural Oklahoma hospitals, ambulances
A rural Oklahoma doctor said patients who are taking the horse de-wormer medication, ivermectin, to fight COVID-19 are causing emergency room and ambulance back ups.
It sure does....for the hospital. It's at least another 10K added to the bill. I don't think ER doctors benefit all that much, but overzealous ones might charge critical care for every limited or full trauma activation.
Additionally, my understanding is that trauma centers need so many activations to remain a center and have to follow their own activation criteria because they get dinged if they either over or under activate on audit. So they make loose enough criteria to make sure they hit the annual numbers needed and then we're stuck activating for every 10 ft fall or high speed toe stubbing.
This is why discharged patients charged critical care should be scrutinized. Not saying that there is never a reason to bill critical care on a discharged patient (anaphylaxis, AF/RVR you cardiovert and DC home, etc.), but it's not that common.
"Over the last week, a collective meltdown involving the drug ivermectin has taken place. Because some doctors have prescribed it off-label to treat COVID, the media have taken to calling it “horse dewormer,” ignoring that the discoverer of its human form won a Nobel Prize and that it’s FDA approved for use in humans.
OK I feel like someone on this forum keeps repeating that quote. Maybe it's someone else then.
I think they pick these types of meds because that's all that's available in some areas of the world. Then case report success stories make their way back to contrarians here in the US looking for their own cure.
the only thing i do on that list is decadron for hypoxic COVID patients.
This is exactly the problem. People don’t understand this and think that if anyone who takes ivermectin gets better, then it must work at least a little.
"99% of people given banana enemas survive COVID, therefore banana enemas cure COVID 99% of the time."
It's true, just like Ivermectin or Regeneron infusions. For Regeneron, we were only giving it to high-risk people who weren't sick enough for hospitalization. Even in the oldest chort of 90+, they have a greater than 94% survival rate.
While your anecdote is nice, there is no actual data to support REGN-COV2 being a "game changer." The totality of evidence appears to be a sub-group analysis in a single trial. Is it effective for a carefully selected group of patients? Maybe. How much is your group getting paid for this treatment?
No, immunization is a game changer. I find it concerning you don't recognize that.
ohiocapitaljournal.com
In other words, it's far too painful to take responsibility for their own actions in refusing the vaccine and much easier to blame someone else, who really isn't at fault.Have you guys seen this?
Judge reverses order forcing hospital to give ivermectin to COVID-19 patient • Ohio Capital Journal
“I think the problem here is there are conflicting outcomes in public health literature,” said Dr. Jaime Robertson, an infectious disease physician.
This bit is just priceless:
"Julie Smith testified that neither she nor her husband were vaccinated against COVID-19. She said it was “experimental,” so she didn’t trust it.
“We didn’t feel confident it had been out long enough,” she said during a hearing Thursday.
She later connected with Dr. Fred Wagshul, a founding physician of the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance, a nonprofit that touts ivermectin as a wonder drug. Wagshul is a licensed physician but is not board certified within any specialty and hasn’t worked in a hospital for 10 years, according to his testimony.
He prescribed Jeffrey Smith 21 days’ worth of ivermectin without reviewing Jeffrey Smith’s clinical information or talking to any of his treating physicians. He said the pharmaceutical industry and U.S. government have smeared ivermectin and “censored” its allegedly undeniable beneficial value.
However, when asked if it had benefitted Smith, he hedged."
So he prescribed it without examining the patient? Sounds like the medical board has reason to sanction this individual. Even a telemedicine consult may prevent this, but you can't just prescribe it to people you've never met.
Data shows clear improvement and the FDA has given the go ahead even for exposure. Game changer may be an over exaggeration for the whole populace but definitely for pts that refuse vaccination. I would say our groups have infused a large amount of patients and I have not heard of one pt who was treated before getting Covid pneumonia end up with it. We have many healthy low risk pts return a wk later with covid pneumonia that was never offered Regen.
Vaccines is obviously a game changer but when a large group refuses vaccination, this is the only treatment to show improved outcome early in the course.
besides, it kept Trump alive. That must count for something.
Have you looked at the data?
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Troll I presume? No posts in over 10 years and now a ridiculous post referencing the same (VAERS) database which has reports of people turning into giant green monsters with increased muscle mass secondary the vaccine use
No, there is no good data that I am aware of showing clear improvement. And the little data that is available is not consistent with your anecdote. If you have such data, please share.
tPa anyone? Also, see the second to last paragraph in your post and you have your answer.
You have it?
no the doc that was prescribing ivermectin - don't know vaccination status
The Ohio ivermectin court-case doc, Fred Wagshul?
A judge reversed the court order once they found out he wasn’t affiliated with the hospital and didn’t even really know the patient, and he was unable to provide “convincing evidence” that it would help.
Seems like that's the kind of thing that should've come up at the very first hearing...
He also wasn’t licensed by any specialty and hasn’t been affiliated with any hospital for 10 years and didn’t have/review the patient chart
no the MD I referenced in my first post
This is a lot of hypocrisy in medicine but your list is suspect.
I don't support Ivermectin for treating COVID. But you're right, in that there's almost a histrionic, overwrought backlash against it as a medication. Imagine this scenario:
Incidentally, that’s how a lot more people are acting towards the COVID vaccine…
