I get free undergrad, but then again, I'm going to a community college than transfering. I'm on my own for application, and airfare money.
Thanks for the clarification.And there is nothing wrong with that.
Thanks for the clarification.
Why would you feel guilty? Why would anyone feel guilty? If your parents want to do that for you......great! Lucky you!! It is your parents' decision. It has nothing to do with whether you deserve it or not. It has nothing to do with you having to be grateful or not. It is all about your parents who want to give YOU a free ride to med school! You do not need to explain. You do not need to feel guilty. You do not even need to be grateful. It is their decision and you should not give a flying **** about what anyone could or would think.
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in other words, while Eastern kids may be lucky to have their parents cover all their school expenses if possible for them, the Eastern kids still don't throw their parents into nursing homes when they get older. the concept of a "nursing home" doesn't even really exist overseas. it's an american tradition made by kids to throw their parents away and not care about them.
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Dang... even I wasn't going to go there!
in other words, while Eastern kids may be lucky to have their parents cover all their school expenses if possible for them, the Eastern kids still don't throw their parents into nursing homes when they get older. the concept of a "nursing home" doesn't even really exist overseas. it's an american tradition made by kids to throw their parents away and not care about them.
... and it's right that you didn't because by changing the focus of the argument from "Parents who pay for their kid's medical school" to "Americans throw their elders in nursing homes" the poster is making an unsupported claim by attacking those who he thinks are making the argument, rather than the argument itself. In short it is ad hominem, a logical fallacy.
For the record, my grandparents are nearly ninety years old and are still fully independent. They live close enough for us to see them several times a week, but still live in the same ranch-style house with horses and a big yard that they've always have. They are proud of their independence, as they have always been, and would probably be offended if my parents asked them to move in.
well, we do live in an individualistic society. i can't very well take care of a parent that's sick or needs help at home when i will need to provide for my own kids. it's not about throwing anyone away. we just can't quit our jobs. there's pressure and everything's on us. i don't plan on staying at home and neither does my husband.
... and it's right that you didn't because by changing the focus of the argument from "Parents who pay for their kid's medical school" to "Americans throw their elders in nursing homes" the poster is making an unsupported claim by attacking those who he thinks are making the argument, rather than the argument itself. In short it is ad hominem, a logical fallacy.
For the record, my grandparents are nearly ninety years old and are still fully independent. They live close enough for us to see them several times a week, but still live in the same ranch-style house with horses and a big yard that they've always have. They are proud of their independence, as they have always been, and would probably be offended if my parents asked them to move in.
I would honestly be embarrassed to have my parents pay, even if they had the means. Much more satisfying to know you did it on your own.
They live close enough for you to see several times a week eh?
Sounds like you have some asian blood in you
yeah, mine are. it's kind of an eastern cultural thing tho almost like someone else said. overseas, the kids even live with their parents until they get married so until marriage the parents completely cover the kids' expenses. later tho once the parents start to get older tho, the same is expected in return and the parents generally move in with the kids, the kids pay for all their finances, etc. it's how it works. the eastern family is much more closeknit than the western household. that's why ppl from the US don't understand and are like "WHAT YOUR PARENTS ARE PAYING FOR YOUR MED SCHOOL?? YOU ARE SO SPOILED CAN YOU DO ANYTHING WITHOUT DADDY." the truth is that's how the family system works, but these same kids will also be taking care of their parents when they are older. there is nothing closer than family in the East.
in other words, while Eastern kids may be lucky to have their parents cover all their school expenses if possible for them, the Eastern kids still don't throw their parents into nursing homes when they get older. the concept of a "nursing home" doesn't even really exist overseas. it's an american tradition made by kids to throw their parents away and not care about them.
besides, even tho my parents will be paying for my med school, i am not going to go out and pick the most expensive med school either. i'll try to get into the cheapest one as possible, but if i only get into to like a $40k+/year one, then they'll still cover me. i'll take care of them in the end when they need me. right now, i need them.
That's silly. As if being $200k+ in debt is some sort of badge of maturity. I wish my parents could pay for my schooling - would make residency and beyond far less stressful.
Um...yeah you'd have to be pretty naive to think this is strictly an "eastern culture" thing. I myself come from a Hispanic background, and the same thing is expected. In any south American country you'll see people living with their parents until they marry. My mother also still takes care of her parents, and I'll probably take care of mine. However, they are not paying for my med school, and this isn't because they do not want to, IT'S CAUSE THEY CAN'T. Sorry they don't have 200k sitting around they can chuck my way. So maybe you see this more often in "eastern" culture because Asians tend to be a lot more wealthy than Hispanics in the US.
Um...yeah you'd have to be pretty naive to think this is strictly an "eastern culture" thing. I myself come from a Hispanic background, and the same thing is expected. In any south American country you'll see people living with their parents until they marry. My mother also still takes care of her parents, and I'll probably take care of mine. However, they are not paying for my med school, and this isn't because they do not want to, IT'S CAUSE THEY CAN'T. Sorry they don't have 200k sitting around they can chuck my way. So maybe you see this more often in "eastern" culture because Asians tend to be a lot more wealthy than Hispanics in the US.
exactly, anyone would prfer to have parents who could afford to pay for their school. like i said, it is then the task of the new generation to do the same for THEIR kids. so if you think about it, i guess technically everyone pays the same amount haha. it's just ppl with parents paying for their school now will just have to pay for med school checks 25 years later lol.
well, there's a big difference between a family doing the best that they can with their limited means and parents that have $100k collecting interest somewhere who refuse to let it go.
So I guess I luckd out by not having kids? That statement might be premature, but I think i am lucky to be so immature...
That's silly. As if being $200k+ in debt is some sort of badge of maturity. I wish my parents could pay for my schooling - would make residency and beyond far less stressful.
no i wasn't trying to imply anything about any particular race/ethnicity.hahaha, are you suggesting hispanics with money are stingy and even if they have the money still won't cover their children's education?
i'm not suggesting this! so don't flame me! i'm apalled to believe that...but i unfortunately don't have any hispanic friends so i don't know. most hispanics i've seen seem VERY hardworking. minus the gangs and stuff haha...but i mean, every race has those.
Um...yeah you'd have to be pretty naive to think this is strictly an "eastern culture" thing. I myself come from a Hispanic background, and the same thing is expected. In any south American country you'll see people living with their parents until they marry. My mother also still takes care of her parents, and I'll probably take care of mine. However, they are not paying for my med school, and this isn't because they do not want to, IT'S CAUSE THEY CAN'T. Sorry they don't have 200k sitting around they can chuck my way. So maybe you see this more often in "eastern" culture because Asians tend to be a lot more wealthy than Hispanics in the US.
no i wasn't trying to imply anything about any particular race/ethnicity.
i just meant that there are a lot of hardworking people that just can't afford to contribute anything to their child's education no matter how much they would like to.
my parents, however, are in a comfortable retirement with money in the bank and will not pay $.01. that's fine by me, but they shouldn't expect much later in terms of help when i will be managing my debt.
hahaha, are you suggesting hispanics with money are stingy and even if they have the money still won't cover their children's education?
i'm not suggesting this! so don't flame me! i'm apalled to believe that...but i unfortunately don't have any hispanic friends so i don't know. most hispanics i've seen seem VERY hardworking. minus the gangs and stuff haha...but i mean, every race has those.
oohh i see. you shouldn't say that tho...they're your parents. if they don't cover you and that pisses you off, you still are obligated to take care of them, irrespective of how good or bad of parents they were. that's just your a duty as their child no matter what. i don't know...i guess you need religion to convince you of that tho? or maybe just morals...hahaha
i'm not going to abandon anyone here or let them die when they need care. i'm just saying that they will not be living in my house ever, but this is as much a personal issue as it is financial. in any case, it isn't as black and white as i'm laying out here. there are a lot of deep rooted issues that i won't even get into.
well, there's a big difference between a family doing the best that they can with their limited means and parents that have $100k collecting interest somewhere who refuse to let it go.
I don't think most of the asians parents who pay for their kid's med school are exactly the most "well off" families. It's just that they save and save and save. Not saying that other cultures don't save, but with the asian culture, this idea of saving money for the time of need is so central to their lives. Why do you think most asian families, when they buy their home, can usually put down 50% down payment (and I live in CA)? Maybe becuase I'm still first generation, but my parents don't go to the movies, expensive restaurants, brand name stores, spas, or own much luxuries. (fine, once or twice a year or something they will go somewhere.... like the zoo )
Is their life of saving the best way? I didn't say that. But that's how it is with (some/alot/most?) asian families.
I don't think most of the asians parents who pay for their kid's med school are exactly the most "well off" families. It's just that they save and save and save. Not saying that other cultures don't save, but with the asian culture, this idea of saving money for the time of need is so central to their lives. Why do you think most asian families, when they buy their home, can usually put down 50% down payment (and I live in CA)? Maybe becuase I'm still first generation, but my parents don't go to the movies, expensive restaurants, brand name stores, spas, or own much luxuries. (fine, once or twice a year or something they will go somewhere.... like the zoo )
Is their life of saving the best way? I didn't say that. But that's how it is with (some/alot/most?) asian families.
Um, my mom is going to continue paying my cell phone bill... I'm not sure if that counts.
that makes you second generation. your parents are 1st gen. here!
i have no issue with asian culture. people have different priorities. i'm not saying anyone is right or wrong here.
IMO, you can't have your cake and eat it too. by that, i mean not helping your child out when you have the means to do so and then expecting the world of them later when they're struggling with debt and a family of their own.
I don't care what others think about this, not in the slightest. I was merely adding my voice to the discussion because I was slightly annoyed by the numerous insinuations that all students with wealthy parents are spoiled brats who wouldn't know what a hard days work was if it smacked them in the face.
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that said, yeah I know, I'm just trying to bring in a bit clarification about the notion that asians are somehow richer than other minorities (well also depends on your definition of wealth). But I mean... you really would stick your parents in a home if they spent their savings on themselves instead of you? The still provided you with a roof above your head and food in your tummy for years and years and did take care of you still...
Yeah I know the line is grey. That's why I'm not saying your opinon is wrong or anything.
My grandpa turns 90 this year. Heck, I beg him to come stay with us...as in live with us but he refuses. I would refuse too if I had my own apartment, had no serious illnesses, took the local bus everywhere and love to walk every day. I would not want my own independence taken away by living with my kids (future ones that is...). I just had to clarify that point. SOME grandparents actually like to live on their own...despite us grandkids (and their kids) loving them to death and my parents actually spending 30k on building a new extension in the house just for him...
End of rant. Sorry for going off-topic but I was ticked off by the seeming self-righteous act of taking your parents in with you when you're older. uggh. If I was still healthy and my kids forced me to live with them, I'd disown them and move to Australia. Which is why I totally understand my grandpa's position. In our defense, however, we're just concerned he may fall, break a hip, whatever and he wouldn't be able to get help in time since he's almost 90.
haha, that's why you need that LifeCall thing or whatever it is. remember "i've fallen and i can't get up?"
haha, that's why you need that LifeCall thing or whatever it is. remember "i've fallen and i can't get up?"
Holy crap that commercial used to crack me up. The operator on the other line is WAY to calm.
...SOME grandparents actually like to live on their own...despite us grandkids (and their kids) loving them to death and my parents actually spending 30k on building a new extension in the house just for him...
Holy crap that commercial used to crack me up. The operator on the other line is WAY to calm.
Yeah but what if in the case they have an accident? Sometimes it's for their own safety you know. And it's not like you have to live in the same room as them. If they want independence then get them a place down the block from you so you can visit. It's like of like how you don't just say "okay suit yourself" to a guy who is refusing chemo for his bone cancer, you try to work something out. (Okay fine I know some people would say that but I wouldn't, so the analogy made sense to me at least)