Anyone else taking the June Cranial Academy Course?

[MedBri]

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I am going to the Cranial Academy Intro course in June in Atlanta and staying for the annual conference on Autism afterwards. The hotel is $139 a night which will add up with 8-10 days so I was hoping I could pair up with someone. Is anyone else going and interested in rooming together?
~Brianna

 

[TallScrubs]

I could learn just as much by go to Krusty's Clown college.

 

[thepoopologist]

hahahahahahHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[ensuii]

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

So is this for real? Cranial OMT for treating autism?

 

[ShyRem]

Be nice folks. While I understand the majority of DOs do not believe in cranial, some do, and there are patients who swear by it.

 

[Dr.Ray]

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couldn't help it...

 

[dntke1518]

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couldn't help it...

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[Whiskeypunch]

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[MedBri]

Clown college may be a good option for you. Patch Adams is an amazing healer. At least you'd learn to have an open mind and compassion. You SHOULD be willing to put any tool in your tool box and I think it is sad that so many people choose to throw out good tools.

I could learn just as much by go to Krusty's Clown college.

 

[Bacchus]

I wouldn't put cranial manipulation in my toolbox. Then again, I can't find the cranial rhythmic impulse and as such can't even think of using it. Woe is me.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

Clown college may be a good option for you. Patch Adams is an amazing healer. At least you'd learn to have an open mind and compassion. You SHOULD be willing to put any tool in your tool box and I think it is sad that so many people choose to throw out good tools.

Do you really believe that autism, a genetic disorder, one that likely is already penetrent in early neural crest development and migration can be treated by the manipulation of bones, which I might add are completely fixed in everyone older than a 2 year old? Sorry, if people can't help but ridicule you, and ridicule you they should because this is completely absurd pseudoscience and with no research backing it up, it should be nowhere near a doctors toolbox.

 

[Bacchus]

Do you really believe that autism, a genetic disorder, one that likely is already penetrent in early neural crest development and migration can be treated by the manipulation of bones, which I might add are completely fixed in everyone older than a 2 year old? Sorry, if people can't help but ridicule you, and ridicule you they should because this is completely absurd pseudoscience and with no research backing it up, it should be nowhere near a doctors toolbox.

I wouldn't give any merit to it, but one of my OMM professors, and it appears via google some non-reputable sources, say there is an increase incidence of autism since the SIDS "Back to Sleep" program was instituted.

The difference between my professor and these non-reputable sources is, he points out the increased incidence (8X) but claims it can't be attributed to cranial misalignment. The theory is, when an infant sleeps supine, since the sutures of the skull aren't fused, misalignment can occur.

Stats from the slide: SIDS risk dropped 40%, plagiocephaly (misalignment) has gone up 5X and autism has increased 8X.

I'm sure its because of early detection and nothing else that the autism rate has increased.

 

[MRSAful Fate]

I wouldn't give any merit to it, but one of my OMM professors, and it appears via google some non-reputable sources, say there is an increase incidence of autism since the SIDS "Back to Sleep" program was instituted.

The difference between my professor and these non-reputable sources is, he points out the increased incidence (8X) but claims it can't be attributed to cranial misalignment. The theory is, when an infant sleeps supine, since the sutures of the skull aren't fused, misalignment can occur.

Stats from the slide: SIDS risk dropped 40%, plagiocephaly (misalignment) has gone up 5X and autism has increased 8X.

I'm sure its because of early detection and nothing else that the autism rate has increased.

Eh, the good old correlation implying causation farce. The autism increase in an epidemic of overdiagnosing the disease, unscrupulous pseudoscience practitioners justifying cashing in on woo nonwithstanding.

 

[xsunsetvistax]

If you all would like to educate yourselves, please check out this website. I especially like the first article, but the others are interesting as well

http://osteopathiccenter.org/articles.html

Good luck

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

If you all would like to educate yourselves, please check out this website. I especially like the first article, but the others are interesting as well

http://osteopathiccenter.org/articles.html

Good luck

So basically the autism one did nothing but say that vaccines cause autism and that cranial osteopathy somehow fixed it. Except we know that vaccines and even mercury treated vaccines do not significantly correlate with the development of the disorder.
Other than that I wish there was more money put into actually researching this, however a case study is not enough evidence to state that cranial osteopathy is a realistic option in the treatment of autism.
Question though: are there any potential ethical problems or is there a potential for exasperating a condition through doing cranial manipulation?

 

[PeepsLove]

The cat was awesome by the way . But I found this interesting: In 2002, two basic science professors at the University of New England College of Osteopathic Medicine concluded:

"Our own and previously published findings suggest that the proposed mechanism for cranial osteopathy is invalid and that interexaminer (and, therefore, diagnostic) reliability is approximately zero. Since no properly randomized, blinded, and placebo-controlled outcome studies have been published, we conclude that cranial osteopathy should be removed from curricula of colleges of osteopathic medicine and from osteopathic licensing examinations"

1. Hartman SE, Norton JM. Interexaminer reliability and cranial osteopathy. Scientific Review of Alternative Medicine 6(1):23-34, 2002.

 

[MRSAful Fate]

If you all would like to educate yourselves, please check out this website. I especially like the first article, but the others are interesting as well

http://osteopathiccenter.org/articles.html

Good luck

If you would like to educate yourself about the person behind that organization please check out this website:

http://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/frymann1.html