Are relationships falling apart Post-acceptance

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Nah, plenty of guys do too. They're the ones who can pull with no issue. Women, unfortunately, are raised on chivalric Disney nonsense which goes completely against their evolutionary predispositions. Quick example, as I'm rather sleepy - watch a romantic movie. Undoubtedly, the girl will freak out over absolutely nothing, act crazy and test the guy to prove his love (instead of, you know, having a mature discussion on what the problem is). He will then have to pass it and basically prostrate himself, as no self-respecting human being should ever do, to get her back. She, of course, melts for this and they live happily ever after.

Does this work in real life? Of course not. Women hate guys who put up with their **** and play through their little mind games. Or, rather, they don't sleep with them. They call them their friends and bitch to them when the guy they are having sex with won't listen.

Yeah my girlfriend mind ****** the **** out of me!
She would freak out over the smallest things. So are you saying in the future I should "pove my love" for a girl. Or just not put up with that ****. because with my ex, I just didnt put up with her freakouts over tiny things.
 
where are you going to med school? If its anywhere near where I end up, I shall show you the path young grasshopper.

Haha! I may take you up on that. I am going to University of Southern Cali most likely.
 
I'm a guy. The avatar isn't me. And women don't like bad boys inasmuch as real men who show confidence and power. Bad boys, above all, have these two attributes, so girls are naturally attracted to them. That doesn't mean women only like bad boys, but it does mean that you must exude a powerful persona for attraction to kick in. Being her bitch, her go-to-guy, her emotional tampon doesn't work, but this is the advice (in more flowery terms) that women always come up with. It's nonsense. They want a man, not a whipping boy.

Sankond, I'd never put up with it. I did when I was a teenager and thought that you had to prove love. Nowadays, I'd dump the girl on the spot if she was trying to **** with me like that. It's insanely obnoxious, and I'm neither desperate enough nor young enough to put up with it anymore. The problem begins, though, at the beginning of the courting. You somehow let her have the upper hand, where she knew that she could toy with you and you'd come crawling back. So she did. And did. And did. And eventually, she realized you were a doormat and got bored. She had conquered and it was time for a new conquest. Be thankful this happened now and not after you were married, but take a lesson home from this - you have to set limits early on. If a future girl ever plays mind games with you, you call her out on them and then either immediately dump her or cut off contact for a few days until she's begging you to come back and crying about how she'll never do it again.
 
Nah, plenty of guys do too. They're the ones who can pull with no issue. Women, unfortunately, are raised on chivalric Disney nonsense which goes completely against their evolutionary predispositions. Quick example, as I'm rather sleepy - watch a romantic movie. Undoubtedly, the girl will freak out over absolutely nothing, act crazy and test the guy to prove his love (instead of, you know, having a mature discussion on what the problem is). He will then have to pass it and basically prostrate himself, as no self-respecting human being should ever do, to get her back. She, of course, melts for this and they live happily ever after.

Does this work in real life? Of course not. Women hate guys who put up with their **** and play through their little mind games. Or, rather, they don't sleep with them. They call them their friends and bitch to them when the guy they are having sex with won't listen.

Bang on.

P.S. Are you rockin' the ridiculous sex reassignment thread at premed101?
 
Yeah my girlfriend mind ****** the **** out of me!
She would freak out over the smallest things. So are you saying in the future I should "pove my love" for a girl. Or just not put up with that ****. because with my ex, I just didnt put up with her freakouts over tiny things.

Don't do the "prove my love" crap, it makes you look like a doormat. Don't put up with her freakouts.

Haha! I may take you up on that. I am going to University of Southern Cali most likely.

Dude, you will have no trouble at USC. So many pretty girls there.
 
At my undergrad, some girls I knew would have lunch in the hospital cafe hoping a med. student etc would pick them up. Which is quite lame. Also why would you want a gold digger?

If a gold digger was gonna play me for my future earning potential, I would like to play her for her body. I would never marry one if that is what you are asking.
 
I'm going to walk my dog. Truth is, I used be an A.F.C. (average frustrated chump) when it came to women, and got walked all over when I was in high school. Early in my college career, some "professionals" showed me the light and I've since been having far more success with women than I could ever ask for and will share what I've learned from my own experiences with others. You can read my commentary on some of these threads if you want to hear more about my opinions on being successful with women:

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=549824
(New way to ask a girl out?)

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=585923
(Locating Other's in the Pre-Medical Path)

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=588137
(What does it mean when a girl pays for the meal?)
 
I'm a guy. The avatar isn't me. And women don't like bad boys inasmuch as real men who show confidence and power. Bad boys, above all, have these two attributes, so girls are naturally attracted to them. That doesn't mean women only like bad boys, but it does mean that you must exude a powerful persona for attraction to kick in. Being her bitch, her go-to-guy, her emotional tampon doesn't work, but this is the advice (in more flowery terms) that women always come up with. It's nonsense. They want a man, not a whipping boy.
At the same time I feel like immature women are more likely to go after the bad boys who treat them like dirt, it seems like women eventually get sick of that and realize they want some who isn't an ahole. Maybe this transition happens when they are looking to settle down. But what do I know, I am just an ignorant male.
 
I'm a guy. The avatar isn't me. And women don't like bad boys inasmuch as real men who show confidence and power. Bad boys, above all, have these two attributes, so girls are naturally attracted to them. That doesn't mean women only like bad boys, but it does mean that you must exude a powerful persona for attraction to kick in. Being her bitch, her go-to-guy, her emotional tampon doesn't work, but this is the advice (in more flowery terms) that women always come up with. It's nonsense. They want a man, not a whipping boy.

wow.....all of your posts that i've ever seen make sense now. I just thought you were a really badass girl. lol.

Does this work in real life? Of course not. Women hate guys who put up with their **** and play through their little mind games. Or, rather, they don't sleep with them. They call them their friends and bitch to them when the guy they are having sex with won't listen.

Aint this the truth!
 
I'm a guy. The avatar isn't me. And women don't like bad boys inasmuch as real men who show confidence and power. Bad boys, above all, have these two attributes, so girls are naturally attracted to them. That doesn't mean women only like bad boys, but it does mean that you must exude a powerful persona for attraction to kick in. Being her bitch, her go-to-guy, her emotional tampon doesn't work, but this is the advice (in more flowery terms) that women always come up with. It's nonsense. They want a man, not a whipping boy.

Agree. Women like confident men, but we also like good guys. We want both in one package.
 
I'm a guy. The avatar isn't me. And women don't like bad boys inasmuch as real men who show confidence and power. Bad boys, above all, have these two attributes, so girls are naturally attracted to them. That doesn't mean women only like bad boys, but it does mean that you must exude a powerful persona for attraction to kick in. Being her bitch, her go-to-guy, her emotional tampon doesn't work, but this is the advice (in more flowery terms) that women always come up with. It's nonsense. They want a man, not a whipping boy.

Sankond, I'd never put up with it. I did when I was a teenager and thought that you had to prove love. Nowadays, I'd dump the girl on the spot if she was trying to **** with me like that. It's insanely obnoxious, and I'm neither desperate enough nor young enough to put up with it anymore. The problem begins, though, at the beginning of the courting. You somehow let her have the upper hand, where she knew that she could toy with you and you'd come crawling back. So she did. And did. And did. And eventually, she realized you were a doormat and got bored. She had conquered and it was time for a new conquest. Be thankful this happened now and not after you were married, but take a lesson home from this - you have to set limits early on. If a future girl ever plays mind games with you, you call her out on them and then either immediately dump her or cut off contact for a few days until she's begging you to come back and crying about how she'll never do it again.

minus the cynical undertones, I agree with all of what this gentleman has opined
 
Andrew, that's me, yeah.

Rumi (btw - is your name "I murder?" Creepy!), I don't think that's it at all. I think that as men age, most of us become more confident with ourselves. The paradigm of having to pick between either an ahole or a wimp that exists through high school and early college disappears. All of a sudden, women can get a genuinely good guy who is very confident, instead of having to settle for the jerkoff who is. So they naturally choose the former over the latter.


Cbrons, I'm really not that cynical! I love women dearly. They're awesome, awesome people. I just feel really bad when I see guys falling for the same bull**** lies that I fell for when I was younger, before I understood how the game works, ya know?
 
lol we have some really bitter pre-meds in here...carry on giving each other relationship advice :prof: 😆
 
Only dumb women see bad men as long-term partners. But yes, some women do....
The bad boy gets the girl, the good guy keeps the girl. 👍

Yes, TOTALLY agree! 👍 👍 👍
 
At the same time I feel like immature women are more likely to go after the bad boys who treat them like dirt, it seems like women eventually get sick of that and realize they want some who isn't an ahole. Maybe this transition happens when they are looking to settle down.

👍 Redrumi FTW.
 
Don't do the "prove my love" crap, it makes you look like a doormat. Don't put up with her freakouts.



Dude, you will have no trouble at USC. So many pretty girls there.


Out of the thousands and thousands of girls that go to USC, there might be one that is dateable.
 
I'm going to walk my dog. Truth is, I used be an A.F.C. (average frustrated chump) when it came to women, and got walked all over when I was in high school. Early in my college career, some "professionals" showed me the light and I've since been having far more success with women than I could ever ask for and will share what I've learned from my own experiences with others. You can read my commentary on some of these threads if you want to hear more about my opinions on being successful with women:

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=549824
(New way to ask a girl out?)

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=585923
(Locating Other's in the Pre-Medical Path)

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=588137
(What does it mean when a girl pays for the meal?)

Haha that is great advice. (BTW, I got rejected from my 5th grade basketball team too!)
 
How interesting... I agree with everything Retsage said.
 
BTW It is so sad that my SDN crush is taken now. :cry:

But congrats to you!

Yeah, it was a relatively recent thing...😀 But ya know, we can still be classmates and/or good friends (depending on what you choose to believe from When Harry Met Sally). 😉
 
The bad boy gets the girl, the good guy keeps the girl. 👍

it depends on who the good guy is. The sad fact is, this is definitely false the vast majority of the time. The a**holes will get the girl over the AFC who is usually the "nice" guy. Out of all guys under age 30, I'd say 75% are "nice guys", 10% are a-holes, and 5% (probably less) are "alpha males" who can get virtually any girl they want (and they are good guys, they just aren't "nice" guys).

Cbrons, I'm really not that cynical! I love women dearly. They're awesome, awesome people. I just feel really bad when I see guys falling for the same bull**** lies that I fell for when I was younger, before I understood how the game works, ya know?

I know exactly how you feel. What you said earlier is pretty much the same as what I said a few days ago:

cbrons said:
... hopefully some of the smart guys see the pattern ... if you don't set the tone of the relationship as a man, she will. If you consistently show that she is worth more than you by succumbing to her every whim, you will be miserable. If you don't take control, she will. And she isn't going to like it because that's your job as a man to do. Feminists and academicians may not like it but the fact is that women want men who take charge. They want men who don't put up with their bull****. Women want men who think they are the **** and act like they are the ****. You can take that to your local J.P. Morgan Chase Bank.
 
it depends on who the good guy is. The sad fact is, this is definitely false the vast majority of the time. The a**holes will get the girl over the AFC who is usually the "nice" guy. Out of all guys under age 30, I'd say 75% are "nice guys", 10% are a-holes, and 5% (probably less) are "alpha males" who can get virtually any girl they want (and they are good guys, they just aren't "nice" guys).



I know exactly how you feel. What you said earlier is pretty much the same as what I said a few days ago:

All the "alpha males" I know are so focussed on getting girls the rest of the **** in their life falls apart. Guess I'm just a nice guy who will bore girls to death as I lift weights and study all the time LOL.
 
Here's a quote you can take to the papers:

'Why pay for it when you can get it for free?'


Well, I can't seem to find either the relationship or the "friends" so count yourself lucky either way.
 
Dude I totally understand where your girl was coming from. Last year my fiancee was getting all sorts of interviews and acceptances, so I left her. She thinks she can be more successful than ME? NO ONE IS MORE SUCCESSFUL THAN THE CHEETOS. NO ONE.
 
this thread is hysterical. It would be interesting to see how everyone's relationship statuses are after a year or two of med school.

Getting accepted to med school has had the opposite effect on my relationship. It has made my bf so paranoid & nervous that that I'm going to leave him. That has eased a bit after I got accepted to a school in NYC but I think he's still a bit freaked out. We did long distance for 4 years and we really don't want to do it again...
 
My girlfriend is not a science major and is two years younger than me, so we'll still be together. It's convenient that I'm going to medical school 15 minutes from my undergrad.
 
I am just wondering if there are any other people who have had relationships fall apart post acceptance to medical school.

Yep, but honestly its probably now or later. Medical School is notorious for separating couples and causing divorces. It's a huge demand that most S.O.s can't comprehend.
 
Wow, what is WRONG with all you guys' girlfriends? They don't want you to be doctors? This makes pretty much no sense to me.

My wife told me she would divorce me if I didn't follow my dreams, lol.
 
where are you going to med school? If its anywhere near where I end up, I shall show you the path young grasshopper.

being disrespectful on a premed forum doesn't make you mPUA.
 
Get used to it when I got accepted to med school in another state my GF at the time dumped me. Later on I got accepted in state but by that time it was over. When I started 3rd year and was in the hospital all the time, the one I was dating at that time dumped me too. When I started internship and worked halloween, thanksgiving, christmas, new years, and valetines the girl at that time dumped me too. When I moved away to do derm I got dumped again by yet another one. It's just going to keep on happening as you make sacrifices for your career esp if you date high maintence girls who like to go clubbing.
 
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That's rather encouraging.....

That's also a lot of girls to date continuously over the course of what, 8 years?

I dunno, to be honest, I'd have a hard time if my partner decided he was going to follow a career path like that. I wonder how I can convey to my s.o. how long this path is going to be.
 
That's also a lot of girls to date continuously over the course of what, 8 years?

I dunno, to be honest, I'd have a hard time if my partner decided he was going to follow a career path like that. I wonder how I can convey to my s.o. how long this path is going to be.
you can tell them all you want but it's almost impossible to truly wrap your head around how much time it is & how difficult it can be (especially if they aren't into the same field). Just enjoy your honeymoon phase (usually the 1st year or so if you are lucky) while you still can!
 
That's also a lot of girls to date continuously over the course of what, 8 years?

I dunno, to be honest, I'd have a hard time if my partner decided he was going to follow a career path like that. I wonder how I can convey to my s.o. how long this path is going to be.

Tough question. I'm starting to wonder whether professional success automatically renders loneliness.
 
Oh. My. God. Are you a woman or a man? From your avatar I'd say woman but I've been wrong so many times before that I'm just not going to take a chance here.

Why do women like bad men? And do they see them as long-term partners? I'd be interested to hear what you women have to say about htis. Do you like bad men?

There was a recent study published on this very topic. I will try and find it quick.

Edit: This is the coverage from ABC News: http://abcnews.go.com/health/Story?id=5197531&page=1

Edit: From Newscientist: http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19826614.100
 
That's rather encouraging.....
There is 2 sides to the story, they all wanted to talk serious/marriage. I'm not having it until after residency or even fellowship. Can't expect them to stick around when the future for them is unkown.

That's also a lot of girls to date continuously over the course of what, 8 years?

I dunno, to be honest, I'd have a hard time if my partner decided he was going to follow a career path like that. I wonder how I can convey to my s.o. how long this path is going to be.

I'm a serial dater, I don't like sarging all the time, I like to know where I'm going to get my nookie from when I do have free time. I haven't found miss's right (the one) so in the interm I've dated alot of Miss's right now.
 
Tough question. I'm starting to wonder whether professional success automatically renders loneliness.

Not necessarily. There are plenty of doctors with healthy marriages and families (although leave it to SDN to tell you the complete opposite). But I think there is definitely sacrifice and compromise on both sides of the relationship, for doctors and other professionals. That's something you should be prepared for if you want it to work out.
 
Out of curiosity, do any of you have a S.O. who has the made the sacrifice and stayed with you during all your training?
 
Not necessarily. There are plenty of doctors with healthy marriages and families (although leave it to SDN to tell you the complete opposite). But I think there is definitely sacrifice and compromise on both sides of the relationship, for doctors and other professionals. That's something you should be prepared for if you want it to work out.

I know I'm prepared. Perhaps, the more important question is: where the hell do we find women who will be prepared as well? Suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
 
I know I'm prepared. Perhaps, the more important question is: where the hell do we find women who will be prepared as well? Suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Not in bars, that's for sure.
 
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