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[TeamZissou]

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TZ,

Really, I don't go out after everyone. I've bit my tongue a thousand times. I'm just LOUD when I do it, so, ya know. Rubs people the wrong way. Prudence would be warranted by BOTH sides, so send this message to yer cronies.

D712

Don't suppose I have any of those cept maybe my fellow DO students interested in Anesthesia looking to break through some barriers.

Good luck on the app cycle, you've got a nice list of schools there, seriously.

 

[Frank Rizzo]

Looks like a few people, "old" and "young," have had their feelings hurt on this big, bad, mean, old, internet forum. Wish there was a quality FAIL smilie i could post, but there is not.

Instead I'll raise the horns and go check out that music thread again.

 

[doctor712]

Are you kidding me? I'm having a ball with this thread.

And thanks for the congrats. Insults from someone that hasn't even entered med school mean nothing to me.

Oh, and 40k vs. 4mill? Maybe if you were an actor. Stay jealous!

Oops. Almost forgot...

You're funny. I'll play a long. You think ACTORS are the only ones making 4,000,000 in TV? HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA. Stick to your knowledge of medicine.

For others interested, film is the director's domain. The auteur. He/she has say on the set, hiring, firing, casting, editing, from beginning to end it's the director who runs the ship. Sometimes they will make same, less, more money than the actor, depending on the film etc. Television is the...writer's domain. We create the shows, and are the show runners.
From casting, to hiring actors, directors, bla bla bla. So, IDBasco, lemme explain to you what happens when you create a television show...you get a piece. Points against profit. iTunes. International sales. Lunchboxes. 4,000,000$? You think that's a lot.

Let me introduce you to Seth McFarlane. Do you know how many tens of millions of dollars he has made and is worth from Family Guy ALONE? Creators of 24, House, Lost, Will and Grace, heck Zena the Warrior, Prison Break, Breaking Bad, Shameless, Sopranos. Here's the deal. If you've ever seen a HIT DRAMA or COMEDY show on television, the writers/creators have made WELL into the Seven Figures, many have made Eight Figures. And when your show is sold into syndication, we're talking Nine Figures. I think Gary Goldberg made 200+million when Family Ties sold, as an example from the heydays of the 1980s.

Failed shows, flops, bombs, TGIF kind of "Step by Step" shows, far from hits, but ratings gainers nonetheless, they pay the same darling.

That clear IDBasco?

I covered this in another thread. The whole hierarchy of writing in television. Many people posted how interesting it was and PMd me for sharing. I say this for no other reason than to school you a little, you green little Med Student you. If this is where you are now, wow, lookout Nurses and Hospital Staff.

So yeah, I haven't made the 4,000,000 yet. But you don't have to be an actor to do it. Not by a long shot. Average show runner salary on a network show? 50,000-75,000 an episode. x 22 eps? 26 eps? Do the math darling. That's one season. And that doesn't cover script fees, residuals, back end and the like.

I walked away from it. And now I have a choice to make...

Hope you've learned something IDBasco. Doubt it.

D712

 

[doctor712]

Take the money!

PM me the show if you take the job, I don't watch much TV, certainly no great TV shows. Are there any currently? seriously?
Cheers!
We have to get some Laphroaig next time you're in the hood.

Yeah, I know. It's up for debate. Not even sure I'll apply this cycle, or at all. We shall see. Are there any good shows on TV? Yes actually! Some great ones. And many crappy ones. Here are a few GREAT ones (perhaps the topic of a new thread)

- Breaking Bad
- Homeland
- Weeds
- Archer
- Californication (losing its steam sadly)
- Hell on Wheels
- American Horror Story (so campy, it's perfection)
- Curb Your Enthusiasm

Others might add:

- Dexter
- The Office
- Modern Family
- Walking Dead
- Anything else Zombie

But I only watch the first batch above. And I hate Zombies.

And of course, anything I write on. 😀 (THAT'S A JOKE PEOPLE!!!!) And speaking of which, such vitriol on this thread nobody even commented on my "shortest break from SDN" break. sheesh.

I'll be back in your hood soon IlDes. LAPHROIG!

D712

 

[doctor712]

Insults from someone that hasn't even entered med school mean nothing to me.

"Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) is a personality disorder in which the individual is described as being excessively preoccupied with issues of personal adequacy, power, prestige and vanity."

D712

 

[IDBasco]

"Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) is a personality disorder in which the individual is described as being excessively preoccupied with issues of personal adequacy, power, prestige and vanity."

D712

Wait, are you saying that is me, or that I was the one that called you that in the first place? Either way, keep swinging... 🙂

 

[vector2]

Yeah, I know. It's up for debate. Not even sure I'll apply this cycle, or at all. We shall see. Are there any good shows on TV? Yes actually! Some great ones. And many crappy ones. Here are a few GREAT ones (perhaps the topic of a new thread)

- Breaking Bad
- Homeland
- Weeds
- Archer
- Californication (losing its steam sadly)
- Hell on Wheels
- American Horror Story (so campy, it's perfection)
- Curb Your Enthusiasm

Others might add:

- Dexter
- The Office
- Modern Family
- Walking Dead
- Anything else Zombie

But I only watch the first batch above. And I hate Zombies.

And of course, anything I write on. 😀 (THAT'S A JOKE PEOPLE!!!!) And speaking of which, such vitriol on this thread nobody even commented on my "shortest break from SDN" break. sheesh.

I'll be back in your hood soon IlDes. LAPHROIG!

D712

There is no universe in which Hell on Wheels (poor man's Deadwood), Walking Dead (jesus christ, just because something has zombies in it does not make it good), or the latter seasons of Weeds/Dexter/Office are GREAT shows.

You also need to add Mad Men, Boardwalk Empire, Eastbound and Down, Party Down, Louie and Bored to Death to the good list.

 

[doctor712]

There is no universe in which Hell on Wheels (poor man's Deadwood), Walking Dead (jesus christ, just because something has zombies in it does not make it good), or the latter seasons of Weeds/Dexter/Office are GREAT shows.

You also need to add Mad Men, Boardwalk Empire, Party Down, Louie and Bored to Death to the good list.

Of the shows I watch , hell on wheels and weeds are categorically FANTASTIC SHOWS.
To me. Not to mention the tv academy voting members. The others I don't watch as I said. They're just popular. And I don't do zombies. But they're popular.
Weeds is regularly awarded industry kudos. Hell on wheels will be. Too new.
U know the beauty? I'd never debate this. It's entertainment. Enjoy what u like. Or flip
The switch. All I can tell u is what I like. Weeds season 3 its best. But up to last season finale, fantastic. Every show has blips. And 7 seasons of a show... You're gonna miss a couple. (trust me on this one). weeds is EXCELLENT writing and some amazing acting. that I can say.

D712

Ps I removed boardwalk because I'm not up on it anymore and couldn't comment on storyline in case we went there. But EXCELLENT. Louie too. Mad men...only saw the pilot. Only so many characters u can whirl around ur head while writing your own pilots and drama scripts. lots of blood out there. 🙂
But mad men is excellent tv.

 

[Monty Python]

Yeah, I know. It's up for debate. Not even sure I'll apply this cycle, or at all. We shall see. Are there any good shows on TV? Yes actually! Some great ones. And many crappy ones. Here are a few GREAT ones (perhaps the topic of a new thread)

- Breaking Bad
- Homeland
- Weeds
- Archer
- Californication (losing its steam sadly)
- Hell on Wheels
- American Horror Story (so campy, it's perfection)
- Curb Your Enthusiasm

Others might add:

- Dexter
- The Office
- Modern Family
- Walking Dead
- Anything else Zombie

But I only watch the first batch above. And I hate Zombies.

And of course, anything I write on. 😀 (THAT'S A JOKE PEOPLE!!!!) And speaking of which, such vitriol on this thread nobody even commented on my "shortest break from SDN" break. sheesh.

I'll be back in your hood soon IlDes. LAPHROIG!

D712

Intentional hi-jack here, as this thread is going on a 90 degree tangent to the OP's theme in a nasty way.

Too bad it went off the air a few years ago ... Personally I think Frasier was one of the best-written shows ever.

 

[vector2]

Of the shows I watch , hell on wheels and weeds are categorically FANTASTIC SHOWS.
The others I don't watch. And I don't do zombies. But they're popular.
Weeds is regularly awarded industry kudos. Hell on wheels will be. Too new.
U know the beauty? I'd never debate this. It's entertainment. Enjoy what u like. Or flip
The switch. All I can tell u is what I like. Weeds season 3 its best. But up to last season finale, fantastic. Every show has blips. And 7 seasons of a show... You're gonna miss a couple. (trust me on this one). weeds is EXCELLENT writing and some amazing acting. that I can say.

D712

OK, so I guess you have some personal connection to the show- worked on it, know someone who did, just have an unhealthy obsession with Mary-Louise? I was a big fan of the first few seasons, but the writing in the last few has been some of the most unfocused, randomly plotted, absurd, and pointlessly stupid **** in the history of television. Not to mention Nancy Botwin must be the most accidentally unlikeable protagonist of all time. And this past season especially the finale was just godawful...like so bad that one couldn't even like it ironically. However, I do have to clarify that pretty much every scene with Andy or Doug was usually gold, even to the bitter end.


Also, The West Wing and The Wire (duh) are great shows

 

[RT2MD]

Yeah, I know. It's up for debate. Not even sure I'll apply this cycle, or at all. We shall see. Are there any good shows on TV? Yes actually! Some great ones. And many crappy ones. Here are a few GREAT ones (perhaps the topic of a new thread)

- Breaking Bad
- Homeland
- Weeds
- Archer
- Californication (losing its steam sadly)
- Hell on Wheels
- American Horror Story (so campy, it's perfection)
- Curb Your Enthusiasm

Others might add:

- Dexter
- The Office
- Modern Family
- Walking Dead
- Anything else Zombie

But I only watch the first batch above. And I hate Zombies.

And of course, anything I write on. 😀 (THAT'S A JOKE PEOPLE!!!!) And speaking of which, such vitriol on this thread nobody even commented on my "shortest break from SDN" break. sheesh.

I'll be back in your hood soon IlDes. LAPHROIG!

D712

😱😱😱😱 Zombies instantly make any crappy show worth watching... you shut your mouth when you are talking to me!

Well... I don't watch any of your top list, but at least I watch 3 of your "second tier" shows:

Dexter
Modern Family
Walking Dead

 

[doctor712]

OK, so I guess you have some personal connection to the show- worked on it, know someone who did, just have an unhealthy obsession with Mary-Louise? I was a big fan of the first few seasons, but the writing in the last few has been some of the most unfocused, randomly plotted, absurd, and pointlessly stupid **** in the history of television. Not to mention Nancy Botwin must be the most accidentally unlikeable protagonist of all time. And this past season especially the finale was just godawful...like so bad that one couldn't even like it ironically. However, I do have to clarify that pretty much every scene with Andy or Doug was usually gold, even to the bitter end.
Also, The West Wing and The Wire (duh) are great shows

Vector,

Check out the new TV thread. Nancy Botwin is not at all accidentally unlikeable. There's a LARGE movement to writing unredeemable lead characters, and she's purposefully just that. It took the show 6 seasons to mention what she was all about though, doing what a mother needs to do for her kids. Period. I agree, earlier seasons were better. And I have no comment on any show I have or haven't written for, am up for writing for or the like, in the affirmative or the negative. Ever. Oh, Doug and Andy - brilliant. Yeah, I'm not a fan of the Mexican story arc, but it's all so personal. But I do thank goodness I don't write to please internet tv critics. : ) And no, no crush on MLParker. Ha.

Don't watch either West Wing or Wire.

D712

 

[doctor712]

😱😱😱😱 Zombies instantly make any crappy show worth watching... you shut your mouth when you are talking to me!

Well... I don't watch any of your top list, but at least I watch 3 of your "second tier" shows:

Dexter
Modern Family
Walking Dead

I know, the Zombie thing never clicked for me. I owe you a PM, sorry dude! Hop on over to the new TV thread, we've hijacked Noy's thread big time!

 

[RT2MD]

I know, the Zombie thing never clicked for me. I owe you a PM, sorry dude! Hop on over to the new TV thread, we've hijacked Noy's thread big time!

No worries, I know you are busy... I don't know if I can let the zombie thing go, though... Setting a course for a new thread.

Noy - Sorry, brother. I still stand by what I said earlier, please don't sick your wolf on me! 👍 😎

 

[vector2]

Vector,

Check out the new TV thread. Nancy Botwin is not at all accidentally unlikeable. There's a LARGE movement to writing unredeemable lead characters, and she's purposefully just that. It took the show 6 seasons to mention what she was all about though, doing what a mother needs to do for her kids. Period. I agree, earlier seasons were better. And I have no comment on any show I have or haven't written for, am up for writing for or the like, in the affirmative or the negative. Ever. Oh, Doug and Andy - brilliant. Yeah, I'm not a fan of the Mexican story arc, but it's all so personal.

Don't watch either West Wing or Wire.

D712

The problem isn't that she's irredeemable. Hell, Walter White is irredeemable. But Walter White is also fascinating, and he conveys a genuine sense of being conflicted while he continues the self-delusion that his evil actions are still justified- Nancy doesn't. Breaking Bad also has interesting plots. Weeds doesn't. And it doesn't help that Nancy is also an idiot who does the literally the most idiotic thing in every conceivable situation. She isn't just an irredeemable character, she's also an extremely uncompelling and unlikeable one.

 

[doctor712]

I'm sorry that Showtime feels differently and has given botwin 8 seasons on tv. And an Emmy nom too. Regardless, the upcoming season is the last. I have no dog in the fight. Wonder why u still watch tho. Other thread peeps!!!!

 

[vector2]

I'm sorry that Showtime feels differently and has given botwin 8 seasons on tv. And an Emmy nom too.

It's that kinda logic that lets Two and a Half Men thrive while shows like Arrested Development get canceled.

Regardless, the upcoming season is the last. I have no dog in the fight. Wonder why u still watch tho. Other thread peeps!!!!

Oh believe you me, I loathe myself for continuing to watch the awfulness that is Weeds, but I do it out of some sort of misguided notion that I've come this far and will have wasted all that time for nothing if I stop watching now. It's the same reason I watched another show that had really poor latter seasons all the way to the bitter end (Lost).

 

[doctor712]

It's that kinda logic that lets Two and a Half Men thrive while shows like Arrested Development get canceled.



Oh believe you me, I loathe myself for continuing to watch the awfulness that is Weeds, but I do it out of some sort of misguided notion that I've come this far and will have wasted all that time for nothing if I stop watching now. It's the same reason I watched another show that had really poor latter seasons all the way to the bitter end (Lost).

Comparing Weeds to Two and a Half Men is... like....comparing Propofol to...um...Tylenol.
There, I did it.

D712

 

[vector2]

I was analogizing, not directly comparing. They both exist on a spectrum of ****ty shows that should've never been Emmy'ed, but they aren't directly comparable in ****tiness because Two and a Half Men fills a niche for 'hurp-durp generic, derivative network sitcom that your parents can chuckle through before they fall asleep to Letterman.' Weeds actually aspired to a be a provocative, hilarious, primetime, premium dramedy at one point (the first three seasons), but then careened more steeply in quality than any other conceivable program that's ever aired in a broadcast medium.

 

[doctor712]

Hahahaha. You have REALLY strong feelings about Weeds. Like, really.
I had no idea a TV discussion could provoke cursing and rants.
Well, it is the anesthesia forum...

D712

 

[Bertelman]

Hahahaha. You have REALLY strong feelings about Weeds. Like, really.
I had no idea a TV discussion could provoke cursing and rants.
Well, it is the anesthesia forum...

D712

At least in this thread, you probably shouldn't be accusing others of having strong feelings. You have done more than your part in running this thread into the ground.

Your only positive contribution to this has been the TV thread.

 

[doctor712]

Taking the high road Bertleman. Taking the high road.

BUT let me recap something for you BERT, without engaging Vector at all, but he/she is a PERFECT example. I list a few shows I like.

RESPONSE #1: Uncalled for immediate a harsh bashing of the shows. Not in a tone where someone can actually talk and debate and have a NORMAL discussion, but
this sort of "here's the way it is, and if you don't feel this way you're an idiot (duh) manner.

I reply, defending my views. Like a normal human being.

RESPONSE #2: Uncalled for accusatory response stating that I either work on the show, lust for its star or have a friend on the show, because clearly it's a piece of garbage. Again,
in a vitriolic manner. (not begged by me.)

I defend my views again, trying to talk some TV. and we get:

RESPONSES #3 and #4 basically ripping the show - that I could not possibly have anything less to do with because none of the above apply, but at this point I'm pretty sure Vector THINKS I do, so, ya know, the harsh words about the show, ripping its characters writing, Emmy noms and all that.

And then the beauty, Bert, you come in and remind me of how I have done squat for this thread.

I've seen this **** 100 times on this board. 500 times. Same drive-by ****ing **** from the same people with their heads up their asses.

What BEGS THESE UNCALLED for out of the blue replies?

You know when I start chirping? I start chirping when IDIOTS get rude for NO APPARENT REASON. You want to give it, then take it right back.

So much for the high road. Do YOU have something to add Bert, or are you just here reporting the ****ing weather? Gimme the NHL scores tonight while you're at it, why don't ya...

D712

 

[OB1🤙]

Thread sucks.

Censoring (or whatever you want to call it) Jet is stoopid. Jet makes this forum readable. Jet has made me a better anesthesiologist, and I've never met the guy.

People need way, way thicker skin around here.

And anyone who deplores LA is doing it wrong.

 

[IlDestriero]

You know that a thread has run it's course when even the hijack turns ugly.
Please lock this one up.

 

[RT2MD]

You know that a thread has run it's course when even the hijack turns ugly.
Please lock this one up.

😆

 

[Gern Blansten]

I'm glad Community got resurrected. I think that is a pretty clever show.

 

[IDBasco]

And then the beauty, Bert, you come in and remind me of how I have done squat for this thread.

I've seen this **** 100 times on this board. 500 times. Same drive-by ****ing **** from the same people with their heads up their asses.

What BEGS THESE UNCALLED for out of the blue replies?

You know when I start chirping? I start chirping when IDIOTS get rude for NO APPARENT REASON. You want to give it, then take it right back.

So much for the high road. Do YOU have something to add Bert, or are you just here reporting the ****ing weather? Gimme the NHL scores tonight while you're at it, why don't ya...

D712

Wow, look at him go! He's swingin at everybody.

 

[Bertelman]

.

 

[DreamMachine]

 

[DreamMachine]

Sorry, wrong thread.

 

[Ignatius J]

Wow, look at him go! He's swingin at everybody.

I am crying right now.

Who wants to step up to 712 and be the next log to run into his buzz saw? This TV-show writin' hardass don't mess around!

Let's get it on!

 

[WholeLottaGame7]

I hate to be the voice of reason here, because it doesn't get me as many chicks as you might think, but there's a lot of hypocrisy on this forum (LOL,WUT? On the interwebs? I know, right?)

For instance, there are an awful lot of people accusing other people of being overly sensitive, but then getting their panties in a wad because the other people called their friend a bully. Then people complain about name-calling a few posts after calling someone else a name. And people complain about the lack of contributions on the forum while criticizing the contributions.

I'm not sayin,' I'm just sayin'.

To illustrate my point, I'll reply to Noyac's question to me (even though I know Noyac's a reasonable dude and baited me just because he's a little fired up since this is Jet):

I don't know what I would do in that situation, especially since I don't know the details of that hypothetical situation and they're probably pertinent. I'm pretty sure if I said I would throw down and demand respect, I'd be accused of being too sensitive, and that I should just let it go and move on. But if I said I'd let it go and move on, I'd be accused of being passive and weak.

In general (and I think this applies to pretty much anybody), you do what it takes to survive and advance. In high school, undergrad, med school, residency, you name it. Up through now, that mostly means keeping a low profile and picking your battles. Am I really going to fight with the surgeon over how much blood loss there was (within reason)? Or argue with an attending about the best way to tape the tube?

If it's important, I'll stand up for it. Which is why I think this topic is worth discussing, because I want med students and residents to be able to voice their opinions without getting pissed on by all the cool kids in the sandbox. Because enlightened, entertaining discussion CAN occur in a professional manner. Trust me, I've seen it done. A little respect by and for others by everyone on this forum would go a long way. Though I know that's a long-shot.

So, you can call me whatever you want: pansy, overly sensitive, whatevs, but that's my stance.

 

[Doctor4Life1769]

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[kazuma]

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Lol, that's horrible, I'm almost in tears.

Edit: I don't know which is funnier, the look on the runners face or the bewildered looks of the bystanders.

 

[epidural man]

And anyone who deplores LA is doing it wrong.

Now this really pisses me off!

LA does suck.

 

[IlDestriero]

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I've seen this with my own eyes at the Boston marathon. It's really horrifying.
Must finish strong... personal record on the line... no time for a port-a-potty break... oh no...

 

[fakin' the funk]

Beavis and Butthead is funny.

It's Always Sunny is usually really funny.

The Daily Show has been on an absolute rampage of good episodes recently.

 

[Gern Blansten]

The Daily Show has been on an absolute rampage of good episodes recently.

That used to be one of my favorites. I had to stop watching when Jon Stewart began thinking that he was a serious news guy. I found him difficult to watch as he began to take himself more and more serious. Hopefully he is getting back to the comedy, but I wouldn't know since I haven't watched in almost a year.

 

[Gern Blansten]

Beavis and Butthead is funny.

Mike Judge is a creative genius.

 

[MTGas2B]

Found in my neighborhood bar in San Diego

 

[epidural man]

Found in my neighborhood bar in San Diego

What bar?

 

[MiracleforMD]

Taking the high road Bertleman. Taking the high road.

BUT let me recap something for you BERT, without engaging Vector at all, but he/she is a PERFECT example. I list a few shows I like.

RESPONSE #1: Uncalled for immediate a harsh bashing of the shows. Not in a tone where someone can actually talk and debate and have a NORMAL discussion, but
this sort of "here's the way it is, and if you don't feel this way you're an idiot (duh) manner.

I reply, defending my views. Like a normal human being.

RESPONSE #2: Uncalled for accusatory response stating that I either work on the show, lust for its star or have a friend on the show, because clearly it's a piece of garbage. Again,
in a vitriolic manner. (not begged by me.)

I defend my views again, trying to talk some TV. and we get:

RESPONSES #3 and #4 basically ripping the show - that I could not possibly have anything less to do with because none of the above apply, but at this point I'm pretty sure Vector THINKS I do, so, ya know, the harsh words about the show, ripping its characters writing, Emmy noms and all that.

And then the beauty, Bert, you come in and remind me of how I have done squat for this thread.

I've seen this **** 100 times on this board. 500 times. Same drive-by ****ing **** from the same people with their heads up their asses.

What BEGS THESE UNCALLED for out of the blue replies?

You know when I start chirping? I start chirping when IDIOTS get rude for NO APPARENT REASON. You want to give it, then take it right back.

So much for the high road. Do YOU have something to add Bert, or are you just here reporting the ****ing weather? Gimme the NHL scores tonight while you're at it, why don't ya...

D712

Dude. Chill. The. ****. Out.

 

[doctor712]

Sir, Yessir.

(translation: screw off)

D712

 

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