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LadyOtheFarm said:
What are guesses for wolf roles? I agree, they don't likely have a tracker, but I've only been a wolf once so I don't really know what the basic layout for them normally is.
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So... you've only been a wolf once and don't know the basic layout, but you agree they don't likely have a tracker?

That's sketchy.

unlynch whoever I'm lynching and

lynch LotF
 
LetItSnow said:
Um.............. because she did? She said the protector should speak up if blocked, then proceeded to jump on me and claim that she never said the protector should reveal.

Seems pretty clear cut.

I wasn't being entirely serious. I mean, I think it's obvious what Genny meant. This whole Genny/LIS thing is being blown way out of proportion. There isn't anything behind it. Probably on either side. Move on.
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DVMDream said:
I mean, technically, she was.

To me, he stated it in a sarcastic sort of way. More as an "Ah! Ha! I was right! You dirty, filthy liar!"

If he really wanted to cast suspicion on genny, trust me, he knows how and that sure wasn't it.
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Dang. I was hoping villagers were on to something.
 
I agree with the Teep suspicions, but I'm also getting slight feels from LIS. The arguing with Guis just seems like an unnecessary distraction. I get that people have little sarcastic spats, it just seems slightly out of place to me.

•••lynch LIS•••


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BeautifulBritishColumbia said:
I agree with the Teep suspicions, but I'm also getting slight feels from LIS. The arguing with Guis just seems like an unnecessary distraction. I get that people have little sarcastic spats, it just seems slightly out of place to me.

•••lynch LIS•••


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When was he arguing with guis?
 
BeautifulBritishColumbia said:
I agree with the Teep suspicions, but I'm also getting slight feels from LIS. The arguing with Guis just seems like an unnecessary distraction. I get that people have little sarcastic spats, it just seems slightly out of place to me.

•••lynch LIS•••


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Who is arguing with guis?

Do you mean genny?

And if you do, you should probably re-read LIS' posts as he states the same thing... that people took it too far.

That doesn't mean he isn't a wolf, but I have high doubts he is and to lynch him over something he himself stated is overboard, seems very odd to me.
 
BeautifulBritishColumbia said:
I agree with the Teep suspicions, but I'm also getting slight feels from LIS. The arguing with Guis just seems like an unnecessary distraction. I get that people have little sarcastic spats, it just seems slightly out of place to me.

•••lynch LIS•••
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I had an argument with Guis? Cool. Next time I'll try to show up for it.

BTW, I wholely approve of this lynch. Not because it's right (it isn't), but because it's awesome to see a newer player lynching off of that kind of reasoning (rather than sitting around throwing RNG excuses until some seer tells them what to do).
 
LetItSnow said:
Uhhhhh. Overreact much? I commented on you saying the protector should reveal. You said you never did. I apologized. Then your quote that clearly suggests they should reveal was noted. I called you a lying sneak.

All seems pretty straightforward WW'ing. 🙂
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Yeah, I have no chill. Kind of high strung.

But in my defense, you did ask for an argument to help you make your post count, and DVMD is clearing falling down on the job.
 
DVMDream said:
Who is arguing with guis?

Do you mean genny?

And if you do, you should probably re-read LIS' posts as he states the same thing... that people took it too far.

That doesn't mean he isn't a wolf, but I have high doubts he is and to lynch him over something he himself stated is overboard, seems very odd to me.
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I meant Genny; got the name wrong when I was typing. I also sent that comment before he himself had posted that he agreed it was overboard (or at least it was not on the thread while I was typing my answer)

So I am less suspicious now, but I will wait to switch my vote because currently he is not in the lead and I would like to have reasoning behind my next one


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LetItSnow said:
So... you've only been a wolf once and don't know the basic layout, but you agree they don't likely have a tracker?

That's sketchy.

unlynch whoever I'm lynching and

lynch LotF
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Like 3 people posted reasons why the wolves shouldn't have a tracker, I don't think I've ever seen a wolf tracker here or IRL, and the one time I was a wolf there was not a tracker. There. Were more words better for you?
 
LadyOtheFarm said:
Like 3 people posted reasons why the wolves shouldn't have a tracker, I don't think I've ever seen a wolf tracker here or IRL, and the one time I was a wolf there was not a tracker. There. Were more words better for you?
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Yeah, I have to agree that the vote towards you seems weird. Wolf roles get revealed at endgame, at the very least, so even regular villagers should have a general idea of common wolf roles.
 
LadyOtheFarm said:
Like 3 people posted reasons why the wolves shouldn't have a tracker, I don't think I've ever seen a wolf tracker here or IRL, and the one time I was a wolf there was not a tracker. There. Were more words better for you?
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Nope, but I love the passive aggressive. Please continue.
 
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Zensing said:
Yeah, I have to agree that the vote towards you seems weird. Wolf roles get revealed at endgame, at the very least, so even regular villagers should have a general idea of common wolf roles.
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Yeah, I was trying to ask what are the most basic of the basic roles. There are a few I've seen repeated, but that doesn't mean they would fit here.
 
I know we've mostly moved past it, but I'll throw in my 2 cents on WTF's death...

I'm guessing the wolves blocked the protector and took down WTF. She should have been protected, and I can't see the wolves deciding to attack blindly and hope the protector would do something else.

As for the people asking about WTF's suspicions - she didn't name any names, but she did say that she would look into people who spoke up in STL's defense.

WhtsThFrequency said:
The wolves were most likely quite upset to have their seer come under fire so quickly, and I'm willing to bet at least one of them was vocal about it. Going to re read that whole debacle of yesterday....
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I've been too busy with a midterm paper to go back and reread, but has anyone done this yet? This seems to make good sense.
 
Zensing said:
Yeah, I have to agree that the vote towards you seems weird. Wolf roles get revealed at endgame, at the very least, so even regular villagers should have a general idea of common wolf roles.
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She made this big point out of not having the experience to know what wolf roles would be typical. Then she proceeded to argue that one of them is unlikely. The caveats followed by the assertion are red flag.
 
LetItSnow said:
She made this big point out of not having the experience to know what wolf roles would be typical. Then she proceeded to argue that one of them is unlikely. The caveats followed by the assertion are red flag.
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Put that way, I understand it better. Thank you.
 
BeautifulBritishColumbia said:
Also @LetItSnow I may have just missed this in your posts, but although you caught Genny "technically lying" you did not seem suspicious or place a lynch vote. Why is that?


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Personally, I think it is obvious.

It was a joke. Yes, genny was "technically lying" but it wasn't malicious or intentional and LIS gets that. His post was purely sarcasm and joking around with her...



LIS, I need to spend more time away from here, I am starting to be able to answer for you way too much...
 
BeautifulBritishColumbia said:
Also @LetItSnow I may have just missed this in your posts, but although you caught Genny "technically lying" you did not seem suspicious or place a lynch vote. Why is that?


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Because in her mind she didn't see it as lying. More just miscommunication. I think it is clear what she MEANT.
 
genny said:
The logic being that if they were blocked, then the wolves already know who they are. Maybe I should use more words in my posts.
So I will rephrase:
Teep, that's a stupid idea. The protector should stay mum. If they've been blocked, then it's likely that the wolves already know who they are. Speaking up is optional at that point.
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I still don't think speaking up is optional. Yes, if the protector was blocked, the wolves likely know who the protector is, but it's also possible a villager blocker unknowingly blocked the protector or the protector wasn't able to protect wtf for some unknown reason. So even if blocked there is still a VERY small chance that the wolves don't know their identity, and should therefore stay quiet.
 
You guys are barking up the wrong tree with suspicion here. I'm a vanillager. Have I been talking out of my butt a bit? Most likely. I'm having to talk more than usual, and what I've had to contribute hasn't been especially helpful or insightful.

1) I was late to the start of the game. I got no tags or PMs opened and the thread was almost on page 4 before I ever realized what was up.
2) My first lynch vote was RNGd to sandy. There's no way in hell I'd kill her off N1 if I as a wolf. I think that would look much too suspicious.
3) if I were a wolf I'd be keeping my mouth much more shut than it has been. Running my mouth has brought me alot of attention in such a short time, and is not how I'd be doing this if I were anything besides a vanillager.

Zen voted for me yesterday because of my reasoning for switching from sandy to Hayley. I try to abide by LIS's meaning lynch vote standard. I changed my meaningless RNG vote to Hayley because many people had suspicion of her. I believe I was the 3rd vote for her ( I may be wrong here) and didn't put her in lead or seal her fate.

Do I think the protector has some explaining to do? Yes. If I said earlier that they needed to speak up, I don't think I was saying that they need to reveal on the thread. I'll go back and reread what I said earlier.
 
Jilary said:
I still don't think speaking up is optional. Yes, if the protector was blocked, the wolves likely know who the protector is, but it's also possible a villager blocker unknowingly blocked the protector or the protector wasn't able to protect wtf for some unknown reason. So even if blocked there is still a VERY small chance that the wolves don't know their identity, and should therefore stay quiet.
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I second this. Which really several other people have said as well.

Better safe than sorry. If it gets to the point we want certain people to be protected you can request that of the protector without knowing who they are
 
Teepster87 said:
You guys are barking up the wrong tree with suspicion here. I'm a vanillager. Have I been talking out of my butt a bit? Most likely. I'm having to talk more than usual, and what I've had to contribute hasn't been especially helpful or insightful.

1) I was late to the start of the game. I got no tags or PMs opened and the thread was almost on page 4 before I ever realized what was up.
2) My first lynch vote was RNGd to sandy. There's no way in hell I'd kill her off N1 if I as a wolf. I think that would look much too suspicious.
3) if I were a wolf I'd be keeping my mouth much more shut than it has been. Running my mouth has brought me alot of attention in such a short time, and is not how I'd be doing this if I were anything besides a vanillager.

Zen voted for me yesterday because of my reasoning for switching from sandy to Hayley. I try to abide by LIS's meaning lynch vote standard. I changed my meaningless RNG vote to Hayley because many people had suspicion of her. I believe I was the 3rd vote for her ( I may be wrong here) and didn't put her in lead or seal her fate.

Do I think the protector has some explaining to do? Yes. If I said earlier that they needed to speak up, I don't think I was saying that they need to reveal on the thread. I'll go back and reread what I said earlier.
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Why would killing Sandy be suspicious? She was a vanillager.
 
Teepster87 said:
I'm just putting out what I'm thinking out there. Yes, I know it's a hair brained idea. But I haven't voted that way, and don't plan to.

I'm right with you on being pissed at the protector. Unless there was a block, I'd also like to know what they were thinking.
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This wasn't meant as they need to speak up in the thread now. Id like to know what happened last night and why they chose the action that they did, if there wasn't a block. That can wait for post game at least.
 
"She made this big point out of not having the experience to know what wolf roles would be typical. Then she proceeded to argue that one of them is unlikely. The caveats followed by the assertion are red flag."

I think you make a good point

lynch lotf
 
I don't feel the Teep lynch (although I think I voted for him some point day one). He was chaos in Trilt's favorite thing's game, and his response here is completely different that his response when he was up for lynch then. Not saying that he can't have changed his play style, but I'm not going to vote for him yet.
 
So I went back and re-read day 1, and saw this post from 1dog responding to STL with agreement:

1doggeek said:
Definitely a noob worried about posting too much here. I mean, that's part of playing the game when you're starting out I suppose, but wording things specifically and coming up with ideas is scary at first!
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The "wording things specifically" language threw up a red flag for me.

And then there's this post, in response to a vote against STL on day 1 that also mentioned hayley and guis:
1doggeek said:
I agree with guis and Hayley feels. It could just be leftover from past games but they're on my list of suspicions.
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It seems to me like 1dog was trying to sway votes away from STL.

A lot of Teep's posts also gave me feels though.
Teepster87 said:
2) My first lynch vote was RNGd to sandy. There's no way in hell I'd kill her off N1 if I as a wolf. I think that would look much too suspicious.
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And I think the wolf kill of Sandy makes a lot of sense, given that STL's early posting got him accused of being role-y and Sandy also posted early, so maybe the wolves thought they'd get themselves a villager with a role. So killing Sandy on N1 wasn't even on my radar as to why I might be suspicious of Teep. I feel like this part of Teep's post is just protesting too much.
 
And I agree, if you've ever played WW you have an idea of the basic lay out, no matter how few times you've actually been a wolf. LoTF's comments are sketch.
 
genny said:
So I went back and re-read day 1, and saw this post from 1dog responding to STL with agreement:


The "wording things specifically" language threw up a red flag for me.

And then there's this post, in response to a vote against STL on day 1 that also mentioned hayley and guis:

It seems to me like 1dog was trying to sway votes away from STL.

A lot of Teep's posts also gave me feels though.

And I think the wolf kill of Sandy makes a lot of sense, given that STL's early posting got him accused of being role-y and Sandy also posted early, so maybe the wolves thought they'd get themselves a villager with a role. So killing Sandy on N1 wasn't even on my radar as to why I might be suspicious of Teep. I feel like this part of Teep's post is just protesting too much.
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I get what doggeek meant, so that doesn't really raise a flag for me. There is definitely specific terminology that takes a little bit to get the hang of. And saying things in the wrong way can imply something completely different than what you mean
 
PrincessButterCup said:
And I agree, if you've ever played WW you have an idea of the basic lay out, no matter how few times you've actually been a wolf. LoTF's comments are sketch.
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LOTF set off some flags for me day 1 but I didn't say anything because I always think she sounds wolfy even though 90% of the time she's a villager.
 
Jilary said:
I also think the three votes that piled on teep after the initial vote seems a little odd. Was there any reason for the suspicion other than the comment about the protector taking the night off? Which I just took as a joke.
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I think it was somewhat to do with him steering votes away from STL day 1 and band wagoning on Hayley
 
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