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Dean Hawkins says that this department is fairly small. Since this is the case, if it comes down to it, Dr. Hawkins will step in and fill this position himself.

It's not small school when its first class is 80 students. UCSD and Loma Linda currently have 60 students per class. Their first class only had 25 students and UCSD and Loma Linda are both well established school with its own hospital and medical school.

In the November 2007 article published in the Sacramento Business Journal, it was stated that the school is "close" to having 15 faculty members. Six months later, they are still saying the same thing and still advertising for a deparment chair.

This is not a one man pharmacy school. The school needs to publish its list of faculty and contracted clerkship sites so students who are applying to the school can make an informed decision. I think that's a reasonable request.
 
It's not small school when its first class is 80 students. UCSD and Loma Linda currently have 60 students per class. Their first class only had 25 students and UCSD and Loma Linda are both well established school with its own hospital and medical school.

In the November 2007 article published in the Sacramento Business Journal, it was stated that the school is "close" to having 15 faculty members. Six months later, they are still saying the same thing and still advertising for a deparment chair.

This is not a one man pharmacy school. The school needs to publish its list of faculty and contracted clerkship sites so students who are applying to the school can make an informed decision. I think that's a reasonable request.

Of course it's a reasonable request. The last time I spoke with them about 2 weeks ago, I was informed the faculty were writing their bios and meeting with the IT person. So what if they are still looking for a dept chair, just as long as they receive pre-cand in June. I think that's what we all care about.
 
So what if they are still looking for a dept chair, just as long as they receive pre-cand in June. I think that's what we all care about.

no department chair = no accreditation. It's that simple.
 
no department chair = no accreditation. It's that simple.

BMBiology, if I might ask: where did you get that information from? Is it from the ACPE website?
 
Have you guys read the 77 page ACPE accreditation standards?

http://www.acpe-accredit.org/pdf/CS_Rubric_2007_Version_1_1.pdf

I know CNCP has made a lot of promises but it is time to ask them the tough questions and make sure they deliver. I would also contact the ACPE and ask them questions like what is the latest updates, what are the things you should look for when you are considering a new school. The ACPE is very receptive to students.
 
Have you guys read the 77 page ACPE accreditation standards?

http://www.acpe-accredit.org/pdf/CS_Rubric_2007_Version_1_1.pdf

I know CNCP has made a lot of promises but it is time to ask them the tough questions and make sure they deliver. I would also contact the ACPE and ask them questions like what is the latest updates, what are the things you should look for when you are considering a new school. The ACPE is very receptive to students.


In my opinion, we should not assume progress or lack of progress at this time, particularly when we do not know enough. Also, for people who are starting to worry about the perceived lack of progress, just call and ask. I did that a few times already and they always gave me acceptable responses. Personally, I am waiting until the end of April, or a week after the ACPE official visit, to really examine the progress of the school. At this time, however, I want the school to focus its efforts on the ACPE visit rather than trying to answer my questions.
 
hey guys,

i heard from Gail that for those whose files are in the processed of being reviewed right now won't be hearing anythng from them until after the ACPE visit on april 24..did any of u guys get this information too?
this mean that i have to wait till mid may to hear back from them? i hope there are still seats left if they are still reviewing applications
 
In my opinion, we should not assume progress or lack of progress at this time, particularly when we do not know enough.

I think that's a fair statement. The accreditation is coming up and you dont have a choice but to wait. If you dont want to bother the school, then that's fine as well.

I personally would rather communicate with the ACPE than the school. At least ACPE is objective and tell you what they know. That's their job.

Look, I am not trying to put down the school but I think the issues that were brought up in this forum are good points and questions need to be followed up and answered before students make a life changing decision.
 
This is a pretty strong statement, I might add. If this is the case,then the students and including myself who are accepted and are waiting for the accredidation should give up hope? And even though you've read the 77 pages on the ACPE website, does that mean that you're a relieable source or should we ask the people who are running the school themselves? Because I had posed this question to them twice, and they've given me the same response, saying that this shouldn't be a major concern. Either we are being lied to all of this time by staff and faculty members at this school or the other option could be that we can believe in your statement and give up hope? When you talk to these people, I don't think they are holding anything back or secretely hiding information from us. Just relax. And I never said that cncp is a small campus or that this pharmacy school is going to staffed by one person. Is it fine that Dr. Hawkins is the Dean, professor, and the department chair? Both you and I don't know that. April 24th hasn't come yet, and June 25th is not even around the corner. My point is, we've heard ample theories, rumors, and speculations about this school of whether or not it is going to move forward. I understand that everyone has their own opinions and it's cool that we voice them. But at this stage, we can only wait and need to give them a chance. If I may ask: Are accepted to California Northstate College of Pharmacy? From the sound of it, I think you're accepted to another prestigious pharmacy school? Or is currently a pharmacy student? If so, what's the point of you giving us all these negative information? Thanks!

no department chair = no accreditation. It's that simple.
 
Is it fine that Dr. Hawkins is the Dean, professor, and the department chair? Both you and I don't know that.

What's the point of having a department chair position when that position is held by the dean? That doesn't make much sense. That's like a general saying he can be a general, colonel, and captain.
 
Have you guys read the 77 page ACPE accreditation standards?

http://www.acpe-accredit.org/pdf/CS_Rubric_2007_Version_1_1.pdf

I know CNCP has made a lot of promises but it is time to ask them the tough questions and make sure they deliver. I would also contact the ACPE and ask them questions like what is the latest updates, what are the things you should look for when you are considering a new school. The ACPE is very receptive to students.

In standards 24-26 (faculty and staff), I don't see where it addresses the issue of 'no dept. chair=no accredidation'. In the sections under "Does Not Meet the Standard", it doesn't mention anything about department chair.

I think I may understand where you're coming from. I read many of your past posts regarding THAT other school, and it seems you were very instrumental in helping those students there and asking the tough questions that needed to be asked.

But I feel at this point, it really just leads to unnecessary worrying. Like 3434 mentioned, every time I've called them, the responses I've been given were adequate to ease my concerns. However, after the Apr 24 visit, I will contact ACPE to ask further questions.
 
In standards 24-26 (faculty and staff), I don't see where it addresses the issue of 'no dept. chair=no accredidation'. In the sections under "Does Not Meet the Standard", it doesn't mention anything about department chair.

I posted that link to show the tough evaluation standards. So let me be clear. That's nothing that says if no X = no accreditation but if you look at it, the quality and quantity standards for the faculty are essential in the evaluation. I can tell you that if CNCP is having a difficult time recruiting a department chair at this point, they are having a hard time recruiting faculty members. You may disagree with it but that's my logic.
 
I posted that link to show the tough evaluation standards. So let me be clear. That's nothing that says if no X = no accreditation but if you look at it, the quality and quantity standards for the faculty are essential in the evaluation. I can tell you that if CNCP is having a difficult time recruiting a department chair at this point, they are having a hard time recruiting faculty members. You may disagree with it but that's my logic.

Multiple sources at CNCP told many of us that their faculty positions are nearly filled. Are they lying to us?? I don't know. What else can we do about it but wait till June or at least after the ACPE visit. For now, it's all just speculation.
 
Multiple sources at CNCP told many of us that their faculty positions are nearly filled. Are they lying to us?? I don't know. What else can we do about it but wait till June or at least after the ACPE visit. For now, it's all just speculation.

Unfortunately you guys dont have a choice especially if you have already put down the deposit. I wouldnt exactly say they are "lying" to you guys especially people like Gail. Only a few top people know what is going on and they tell others what to say. Every school puts a positive spin on things.

But, dont drop your classes, not graduate, change your job or make any plans to move to sac, just yet. Most likely you guys won't know until the ACPE June meeting. They dont publish the minutes until July BUT the school should be informed of the decision right after the decision is made so you guys should know in June.
 
Don't want to sound negative again, but after the initial ACPE visit i called gail and asked how it went. She said it went great and everything is going like planned.

I am sure she is just a messenger and still think school will proly get pre-cand based on the money that they're pouring into everything.
 
Don't want to sound negative again, but after the initial ACPE visit i called gail and asked how it went. She said it went great and everything is going like planned.

I am sure she is just a messenger and still think school will proly get pre-cand based on the money that they're pouring into everything.

hey steveysmith, when was the initial ACPE visit?
 
I am not sure the reasons behind all the negative comments by people who are not planning to attend the school. There is no need for that, especially when basing your conclusions on assumption and speculations.

Just wait and time will tell, or even better, avoid this thread. Allow us, not-so-smart-people who picked this school, to dream about going to pharmacy school just like you. For those of us who plan on going to CNCP, I will see you in August. As for those who got into "better" accredited schools, I am thankful that you did (for more than one reason.)
 
BMBiology is looking out for you all, in a nice way. I, too, look out for you guys...except I'm an assshole about it.

Don't let the dream/idea of attending a "will be prestigious in about 10 years" school affect your judgement. Seek objective advice from ACPE and keep your options open.

Depending how things go in June, I'll either be writing "told you so" in big bold size 7 font or "congratulations." I'd rather pick the latter.

Okay...getting back into character. What clusterfuck of an IT department takes so long to post godddamn faculty profiles when schools in buttfuck of nowhere opening fall 08 in Kentucky have them???
 
Okay...getting back into character. What clusterfuck of an IT department takes so long to post godddamn faculty profiles when schools in buttfuck of nowhere opening fall 08 in Kentucky have them???


HAHAHA love the character :laugh:
 
Well, who cares about the negative ads few of you guys are running. I am very much optimistic about the school. plus, no one knows what the future holds. got it!
 
Wow man!

BMBiology is looking out for you all, in a nice way. I, too, look out for you guys...except I'm an assshole about it.

Don't let the dream/idea of attending a "will be prestigious in about 10 years" school affect your judgement. Seek objective advice from ACPE and keep your options open.

Depending how things go in June, I'll either be writing "told you so" in big bold size 7 font or "congratulations." I'd rather pick the latter.

Okay...getting back into character. What clusterfuck of an IT department takes so long to post godddamn faculty profiles when schools in buttfuck of nowhere opening fall 08 in Kentucky have them???
 
i thought most of the 3 years program now starts early in the summer, and the 4 years program starts in the fall, like september...is this new acpe policy?
 
Depending how things go in June, I'll either be writing "told you so" in big bold size 7 font or "congratulations." I'd rather pick the latter.

If our dreams of going to pharmacy school are delayed for another year, do you think we'll really want to hear "told you so". You don't think we'll know that by then??? How about some sympathy instead of being a condescending a-hole. We're all trying to have some hope here (and you'll be doing the same if this was your only school).
 
Hey, CCdarling. An idiot is always an idiot. No matter how much he's told, he's always going to act the way he is. He just DOSEN'T get it.

BMBiology is looking out for you all, in a nice way. I, too, look out for you guys...except I'm an assshole about it.

Don't let the dream/idea of attending a "will be prestigious in about 10 years" school affect your judgement. Seek objective advice from ACPE and keep your options open.

Depending how things go in June, I'll either be writing "told you so" in big bold size 7 font or "congratulations." I'd rather pick the latter.

Okay...getting back into character. What clusterfuck of an IT department takes so long to post godddamn faculty profiles when schools in buttfuck of nowhere opening fall 08 in Kentucky have them???
 
With all respect, those of you who hold out hope for this school need to be realistic at the same time (don't read this the wrong way). Aside from the "assumptions and speculations," there are facts that need to be understood. Though I got accepted to another school, I'm still not disregarding CNCP because I too, have interviewed with personable faculty, came back to view the new building, met with some other staff/faculty to see if all this can help me make an informed decision. The problem is, I still have seen little revisions from January when I first interviewed. Granted they have their new building and are meeting ACPE standards in this respect, we ultimately don't know what the decision will be. As someone mentioned, keep your options opened, because until June/July, no one knows whether this will legitimately be a school or just a building in Rancho Cordova.

Let me see..as for faculty, I believe they now are fully staffed. I was given a tour of the building and they are trying to move professors into their office (at least I assumed so judging by the paper w/ names stuck to each door). The building is coming along quite well from what Cindy told me, so it might just be structurely ready for ACPE in 2 weeks. As for Gail, she's the sweetest person ever, but she is just a messenger. I spoke with her 2 weeks ago and (as everyone else on here had said) was told that faculty bios would be up in 2 weeks. Well, now I have waited 2 weeks and still see nothing. Perhaps this school is doing fine and just needs to can their IT team. It's unfair to the students who take their time and call in for questions, or for those who actually visit the school and spend time clarifying things..to only find that none of these "promises" or "expectations" have been met in the time they were told.

I don't think people have a reason to bash this school..yet at least. But realistically to all of you who can't be objective and see CNCP for what it really is at this time, you need to go back to your facts, not rely on the promises of staff/faculty at CNCP who may or may not really know or want to tell you what is really going on. Of course they're all hopeful that CNCP gain pre-cand status after the ACPE meeting, but do they REALLY know if they will? Of course not, and neither do any of us until June.
 
damn, will you haters give it a rest already and just wait and see what happens. I'm sick of hearing the same **** over and over again on this forum by all the doubters, it got old very fast.
 
damn, will you haters give it a rest already and just wait and see what happens. I'm sick of hearing the same **** over and over again on this forum by all the doubters, it got old very fast.

You can't possibly be talking about me. I don't see how I said anything that's not true or in any way bashing CNCP. It's one thing to support CNCP, but wake up and smell the coffee. And, if I was a "hater" I wouldn't waste my time in trying to get answers about the school, the curriculum, the faculty, etc. so that yes, I too, can decided whether I want to go to CNCP or elsewhere. While I have to agree that the answers I get are satisfactory, the reality is what is going on presently. Like you said.."Just wait and see what happens"..however, people are jumping the gun and glorifying CNCP.
 
do guys happen to know how many ppl have been accepted so far?
cuz i am still waiting for an interview, and they won't be contacting anyone until after ACPE visit. i think late interviewers will have a low chance of getting in right? any info??
 
do guys happen to know how many ppl have been accepted so far?
cuz i am still waiting for an interview, and they won't be contacting anyone until after ACPE visit. i think late interviewers will have a low chance of getting in right? any info??


I was interviewed last friday and they told me that there's a wait list at this point. I think it's more competitive now than early in the admissions process. Don't lose hope though. You can never actually predict the future.
 
I'm not saying that you're the one bashing nor am I glorifying the school. I'm just simply stating that some people have been talking about the same thing over and over and over and over again...and ya I understand your concerns because I too plan on attending there and I have a lot of questions myself. But the problem is, the same repetitive things keep coming up and some people try to put their 2 cents in thinking that they know what they're talking about...like I said, instead of some people putting the school down and saying that "they're not doing this, or that," why don't we just wait and see what the ACPE does and by that, then we'll know for sure whether the right things have been done or not because it's just a big waste of time if people keep arguing over things which they have no control of.
 
oh and by the way, I hope this school gets the accredited and becomes one of the schools that everyone wants to apply to in the near future not only for us that are accepted, but to shut up everyone who always bashes on new establishments. The reality is, anything new must start from scratch and it's not really fair to criticize until everything is finally said and done. That's my 2 cents for the day. 😀
 
🙂hey, if there is a waiting list, that doesn't mean the class has been filled up right? maybe those are who on the waiting list did not get accepted, but willget accepted if there is still space left???
 
can anyone who has been accepted , but hasn't responded let us know so that late interviewers can have some hope for a spot.
 
Hey guys quick question..are there other stand-alone pharmacy schools out there? It seems as if all the pharmacy schools have other programs already established. Woud Northstate be the first pharmacy program to start from scratch? If there are other stand-alone pharm schools, would you guys mind listing them out? Thanks! 🙂
 
It's not small school when its first class is 80 students. UCSD and Loma Linda currently have 60 students per class. Their first class only had 25 students and UCSD and Loma Linda are both well established school with its own hospital and medical school.

In the November 2007 article published in the Sacramento Business Journal, it was stated that the school is "close" to having 15 faculty members. Six months later, they are still saying the same thing and still advertising for a deparment chair.

This is not a one man pharmacy school. The school needs to publish its list of faculty and contracted clerkship sites so students who are applying to the school can make an informed decision. I think that's a reasonable request.

I read from your other posts about HICP and you seem to be very knowledgable about ACPE stuff so in a nutshell I just want to ask if you really think this school is going to be another HICP or not. I'm trying to look out for a friend because I dont want to see him wasting his times and money.
 
I read from your other posts about HICP and you seem to be very knowledgable about ACPE stuff so in a nutshell I just want to ask if you really think this school is going to be another HICP or not. I'm trying to look out for a friend because I dont want to see him wasting his times and money.

Hey Pacboy, can you send him a private message b/c the rest of us don't care what he thinks and he can't really predict what's going to happen...so if u want to look out for your friend, do us all a favor and wait until June or call the ACPE itself.
 
I just want to ask if you really think this school is going to be another HICP or not.

Before HICP fell a part, there were clear signs like promises were not delivered. However, a lot of the students were in denial. They did not ask the tough questions and more importantly, they did not follow up with the promises.

I honestly do not know if CNCP will gain accreditation. There are some bad signs but I can't say with certainty that the school is not making any progress. That's up to your friend and other students to follow up.
 
Hey Pacboy, can you send him a private message b/c the rest of us don't care what he thinks and he can't really predict what's going to happen...so if u want to look out for your friend, do us all a favor and wait until June or call the ACPE itself.


If you dont wanna read it then dont read it. For someone going into a health profession, you sure got an attitude problem.
 
Hey guys quick question..are there other stand-alone pharmacy schools out there? It seems as if all the pharmacy schools have other programs already established. Woud Northstate be the first pharmacy program to start from scratch? If there are other stand-alone pharm schools, would you guys mind listing them out? Thanks! 🙂

I know I've read somewhere that University of Southern Nevada Pharmacy School (aka The Nevada College of Pharmacy) started out as a stand-alone pharmacy school as well. Now, I believe they are opening up a nursing school. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong!
 
If you dont wanna read it then dont read it. For someone going into a health profession, you sure got an attitude problem.


Dude, chill out!! Rxist is just trying to help you and your friend out. If you read the other posts for him/her, he/she has been very helpful in contacting the school and informing us here on this thread with any news. Your other option is listening to people who do not plan to attend the school and do not know anything about it. The same ones that like bashing the school.

Your friend's best bet is to wait until after the ACPE visit next week then many thing will become clear.

Have a great day 🙂!!!
 
how many of u out there have been accepted, but haven't responded yet? is it because u guys are still waiting for response from another school?
just want to know to see how spots can be opened if those ppl plan to attend elsewhere.
 
Could not have put it better myself. I do not think that MBBIO.. or what's his face knows much more about ACPE than any of us. Just wait until June to find out. And I did call the ACPE committe and talked to one of the Associates of the Accredidation Council of Pharmacy Education, her name is Joan, and I also got the chance to talk to one of the Directors of the onsite visit, Dr. Greg Boyer. And from all of the questions that I have asked them, which are questions that are concerning to us about this school, the answers were very comforting and reassuring. Dose this mean that I think CNCP will be gauranted the pre-cand. status in June? Absolutely not. But in the mean time, from what Dr. Boyer had mentioned, things are looking REALLY good for this school: With regards that CNCP must find a department chair for the clinical pharmacy department before the April visit, this does not have to happen. Yes, the ACPE will frown upon that a little, but this will absolutely not prevent CNCP from gaining pre-candidate status. Joan states that "It is alright that a school has not found a person to fill that position, however, they must be actively searching for one, and we will give the school a time limit on when that will have to be done." This is because since a school is still in the early stages of develpment, it is very difficult for them to complete everything before a thorough visit is conducted. So is this what CNCP is currently doing? I believe so, with the ad that was mentioned in the previous posts. So what did happened during the first visit and why CNCP had voluntarly withdrew their application? When the ACPE came out back in November, there was obviously a lot of work left that were needed to be done. The first visit from ACPE served as a splash of reality for CNCP. They obviously did not have anything set up, no list of professors, no physical building established, and that the budget structure needed a little work. They were then given some additional feedbacks and had to voluntarly withdrew their application to establish and complete the above criteria. So from November up until now, has CNCP been progressive in obtaining all of these criteria? From the visit that I had two weeks ago, they are definitely on schedule for the upcoming April visit. But one of the main criteria that the ACPE will focus on most is curriculum that CNCP is proposing and trying to implement and also having a full staff of professors to accommodate the students that they are admitting. Will this curriculum work for the students? and Does CNCP have the correctly personel to carry out it's missions? When the ACPE grants a school pre-candidate status, what this means, is that they are counting on the school to succeed and carry out the missions and promises that the school hopes to deliver. And I am pretty sure that the professors that CNCP HAD HIRED have the same visions as the Dean and the Founders of the school. Another concern is that so what happens if CNCP flakes and happen to close their doors on us after the candidate status has been granted in about one or two years from now. Dr. Boyer mentioned that, if this happens, which had never happened before, the ACPE will work with the students and other programs, meaning other pharmacy schools to try and help the students complete the remainder of the program. Then I asked, does this mean that it is a "fail-safe" type of system that ACPE is implementing? Absolutely not. We are obviously taking a huge risk by attending newly established schools, but Dr. Boyer does state that they will work with the students and the school, and other programs to try and help the students complete the pharmacy program. This is obviously comforting. So this is what I had gotten after talking to one of the associates at ACPE and the Director himself. And again, it does look like that things are moving in a positive direction for CNCP. Most of you can say that I might be a bit bias because I am planning on attending this school, but at the same time I definitely DO NOT want to give most of us out there false hope about this school. Which is why I contacted ACPE to get more information about the process. The fact of the matter is, from what was mentioned by Dr. Boyer, things are looking really good. To some extent, I had gotten the same information from these people and from what the faculty members at California Northstate had mentioned. But again, please wait until June to celebrate or be dissapointed. But in the mean time, my hopes of attending this school in August is very much alive. GO CNCP class of 2012! PEACE OUT BABY!

Dude, chill out!! Rxist is just trying to help you and your friend out. If you read the other posts for him/her, he/she has been very helpful in contacting the school and informing us here on this thread with any news. Your other option is listening to people who do not plan to attend the school and do not know anything about it. The same ones that like bashing the school.

Your friend's best bet is to wait until after the ACPE visit next week then many thing will become clear.

Have a great day 🙂!!!
 
Thank you PharmD83 for the good info. Great work! Finally some objectivity on this thread 🙂.
 
So what did happened during the first visit and why CNCP had voluntarly withdrew their application? When the ACPE came out back in November, there was obviously a lot of work left that were needed to be done...So from November up until now, has CNCP been progressive in obtaining all of these criteria? From the visit that I had two weeks ago, they are definitely on schedule for the upcoming April visit

I applaud you for calling the ACPE and getting information directly from them. I think that's what everybody who is thinking about CNCP should do and make their own judgement. Just wondering, did you ask them about the number of faculty members and clinical clerkship sites?

I also think your post supports many of the concerns expressed on this forum. For example, you said the ACPE frowns on the fact that CNCP does not have a department chair yet and they would need to have one. I also expressed concerns that the school is accepting students way too fast and they would have to meet the faculty:student ratio, which was supported in your post. It also seems like some people thought they withdrew their application because they did not have a facility back in Nov. but as you mentioned, ACPE said they also have other problems. What have you seen, not heard, that made you feel assure the school is on track to meet these goals?
 
Could not have put it better myself. I do not think that MBBIO.. or what's his face knows much more about ACPE than any of us. Just wait until June to find out. And I did call the ACPE committe and talked to one of the Associates of the Accredidation Council of Pharmacy Education, her name is Joan, and I also got the chance to talk to one of the Directors of the onsite visit, Dr. Greg Boyer. And from all of the questions that I have asked them, which are questions that are concerning to us about this school, the answers were very comforting and reassuring. Dose this mean that I think CNCP will be gauranted the pre-cand. status in June? Absolutely not. But in the mean time, from what Dr. Boyer had mentioned, things are looking REALLY good for this school: With regards that CNCP must find a department chair for the clinical pharmacy department before the April visit, this does not have to happen. Yes, the ACPE will frown upon that a little, but this will absolutely not prevent CNCP from gaining pre-candidate status. Joan states that "It is alright that a school has not found a person to fill that position, however, they must be actively searching for one, and we will give the school a time limit on when that will have to be done." This is because since a school is still in the early stages of develpment, it is very difficult for them to complete everything before a thorough visit is conducted. So is this what CNCP is currently doing? I believe so, with the ad that was mentioned in the previous posts. So what did happened during the first visit and why CNCP had voluntarly withdrew their application? When the ACPE came out back in November, there was obviously a lot of work left that were needed to be done. The first visit from ACPE served as a splash of reality for CNCP. They obviously did not have anything set up, no list of professors, no physical building established, and that the budget structure needed a little work. They were then given some additional feedbacks and had to voluntarly withdrew their application to establish and complete the above criteria. So from November up until now, has CNCP been progressive in obtaining all of these criteria? From the visit that I had two weeks ago, they are definitely on schedule for the upcoming April visit. But one of the main criteria that the ACPE will focus on most is curriculum that CNCP is proposing and trying to implement and also having a full staff of professors to accommodate the students that they are admitting. Will this curriculum work for the students? and Does CNCP have the correctly personel to carry out it's missions? When the ACPE grants a school pre-candidate status, what this means, is that they are counting on the school to succeed and carry out the missions and promises that the school hopes to deliver. And I am pretty sure that the professors that CNCP HAD HIRED have the same visions as the Dean and the Founders of the school. Another concern is that so what happens if CNCP flakes and happen to close their doors on us after the candidate status has been granted in about one or two years from now. Dr. Boyer mentioned that, if this happens, which had never happened before, the ACPE will work with the students and other programs, meaning other pharmacy schools to try and help the students complete the remainder of the program. Then I asked, does this mean that it is a "fail-safe" type of system that ACPE is implementing? Absolutely not. We are obviously taking a huge risk by attending newly established schools, but Dr. Boyer does state that they will work with the students and the school, and other programs to try and help the students complete the pharmacy program. This is obviously comforting. So this is what I had gotten after talking to one of the associates at ACPE and the Director himself. And again, it does look like that things are moving in a positive direction for CNCP. Most of you can say that I might be a bit bias because I am planning on attending this school, but at the same time I definitely DO NOT want to give most of us out there false hope about this school. Which is why I contacted ACPE to get more information about the process. The fact of the matter is, from what was mentioned by Dr. Boyer, things are looking really good. To some extent, I had gotten the same information from these people and from what the faculty members at California Northstate had mentioned. But again, please wait until June to celebrate or be dissapointed. But in the mean time, my hopes of attending this school in August is very much alive. GO CNCP class of 2012! PEACE OUT BABY!


👍 did u apply 2 any other pharm schools..u seem real sharp.....
 
i am not sure if this is a fair question to ask, but does CNCP have a backup plan or planB if they don't get pre-candidate in June? funding? hiring? retain
 
Hi everyone. I got a letter today saying I was waitlisted.......oucch. So has anyone else been waitlisted???? Does anyone have any information on this? How big is the waitlist...or anything at all???
 
I also got waitlisted 🙁 I also interviewed two weeks ago with you phamacy2486 🙂 it sucks to be waitlisted, I hope you have interviews with other schools.
 
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