Camp Werewolf - Game Thread

[genny]

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Lynch dubz

Even more wolfy than Coop.

 

[genny]

This is going to be one of those games I really want to forget, isn’t it? Where I’m just so wrong about everything but no one else is participating (other than wolves) so village just stumbles around until we lose.

 

[WildZoo]

Unfortunately you are pivotal to my main reads, in conjunction with either FTF or sporty, and Miz.

If you weren’t, my mix would be FTF, Moose, and genny.

I could go with my overlapping read of FTF, but I am conflicted that it has the feel of a set up lynch, and the fact that sporty went in there with a contingency there also made me weirdly uneasy, especially since I have FTF more Wolfy than sporty.

I am also slightly inclined to believe the 1 wolf from each group theory, as I do not see both FTF and sporty being wolves together, my group only had one, and I don’t see moose and MsP being wolves together. (And with that said, I don’t necessarily think it was a mod intentional thing, just how RNG fell)

As AM said early in the game, you are either very off your game or wolfing

 

[WildZoo]

Lynch dubz

Even more wolfy than Coop.

How's that?

This is going to be one of those games I really want to forget, isn’t it? Where I’m just so wrong about everything but no one else is participating (other than wolves) so village just stumbles around until we lose.

You've been pushing that line, but as the most active players have died so far...oh look, they've all been villagers

 

[WildZoo]

Unfortunately you are pivotal to my main reads, in conjunction with either FTF or sporty, and Miz.

If you weren’t, my mix would be FTF, Moose, and genny.

I could go with my overlapping read of FTF, but I am conflicted that it has the feel of a set up lynch, and the fact that sporty went in there with a contingency there also made me weirdly uneasy, especially since I have FTF more Wolfy than sporty.

I am also slightly inclined to believe the 1 wolf from each group theory, as I do not see both FTF and sporty being wolves together, my group only had one, and I don’t see moose and MsP being wolves together. (And with that said, I don’t necessarily think it was a mod intentional thing, just how RNG fell)

You realize having me and miz in your main reads is contradictory to the one wolf in each group theory, yes?

 

[WildZoo]

People seem to be upset that I came in asking questions and actually wanting this game to, I don't know, go somewhere instead of letting you all skate by doing barely anything.

In case anyone was wondering, there's a solid chance it's *yLo right now. I think maybe the wolves are nervous about the shake up right when they were planning to coast to an easy victory.

So let's see some proposed wolf packs. It's likely there are three wolves since the game isn't over yet and pip talked about it being wolf heavy. My top 3 are Genny, moose, and nav, as should be obvious from my initial questions. If one of those is wrong I'd go FTF.

 

[genny]

People seem to be upset that I came in asking questions and actually wanting this game to, I don't know, go somewhere instead of letting you all skate by doing barely anything.

In case anyone was wondering, there's a solid chance it's *yLo right now. I think maybe the wolves are nervous about the shake up right when they were planning to coast to an easy victory.

So let's see some proposed wolf packs. It's likely there are three wolves since the game isn't over yet and pip talked about it being wolf heavy. My top 3 are Genny, moose, and nav, as should be obvious from my initial questions. If one of those is wrong I'd go FTF.

You, Nav, Sporty. I’m ok with lynching Nav before you if we agree on that. I might be persuaded to go Flushy too, but less though.

 

[WildZoo]

You, Nav, Sporty. I’m ok with lynching Nav before you if we agree on that. I might be persuaded to go Flushy too, but less though.

I thought you said wolves were the ones participating?

 

[WildZoo]

You are misinterpreting. Coopah talked about it as a sure thing. People that talk about sure things tend to be in the know. Which begs the question of how they were in the know. You can make a best guess, sure. I am not sure if that would have been my initial best guess. I thought there was another domino that sporty wanted to hit first.

I am betting if I get the chance to do a full reread, I may be able to find another slip up or two like that. But no computer, and seeing my wife for the first time in a month and a half is going to stop that from occurring

Missed this post before. So if I'm reading correctly, your interpretation was that sporty was just talking about lynching someone else first?

 

[WildZoo]

Day 1 Officially Most Final Capture the Flag Points* Tally

AM (1) - Navilly
Emlady (1) - Coop
Navilly (1)- BarkSnark
FTF (1) - Jbooz
Coop (2) - ToiletGuy, Dina
Jboo (1) - AM
Dolphin (1) - Sporties
Dina (3) - Dolph, SAR, MsP
Barks (-)
MsP (1) - Genny

12/16 voting

Did not vote: Miranda Senft, mizchiefmanaged, capri1722, emlady09


Official Day 2 Capture the Flag Points And AM is Sad 🙁 Tally

Jboo (1) - AM
Miranda (2) - Coop, SAR
AM (4) - FTF, Miz, Nav, Sportavia
SAR (1) - D-fin
dolphin (1) - genny
MsP (2) - Jboo, isleofcapri


11/14

Did Not Vote: Ms Procrastinator, Miranda Senft, emlady09


Day 3 Capture the Flag Tally - Fin.

Emlady () -
Miranda (2) - SAR, Miz
SAR (4) - genny, Moose, Sportacus, MsP
Jboo (2) - AM, coop
MsP (2) - Jboo, capri
FTF (1) - NaV


11/13 heading for the flag

DNV: emlady09, Dr. ForgotToFlush


Day Something or Other Flag Tally

Capri (4) - MissPee, Moose, Coop, miz
FTF (1) - Capri
Coop (3) - JBoooutToBeDrunk, genny, sporty,
MOOSE () -
Sporty () -
genny (1) - nav

9/10
Missing: Dr. ForgotToFlush

 

[WildZoo]

Cool cool cool. Really annoyed about people deciding not to vote for multiple days.

@Miranda Senft Remind me why you chose not to sub out?

@Dr. ForgotToFlush Why did you miss voting two days in a row when you've been around and active?

 

[genny]

I thought you said wolves were the ones participating?

Clearly I am wrong about everything. Sporty and Nav fit better with Coop quitting as a wolf. If Coop wasn’t a wolf, I’d probably go Ms P, Miz, Sporty.

 

[WildZoo]

Clearly I am wrong about everything. Sporty and Nav fit better with Coop quitting as a wolf. If Coop wasn’t a wolf, I’d probably go Ms P, Miz, Sporty.

Why's that?

 

[Dr. ForgotToFlush]

Cool cool cool. Really annoyed about people deciding not to vote for multiple days.

@Miranda Senft Remind me why you chose not to sub out?

@Dr. ForgotToFlush Why did you miss voting two days in a row when you've been around and active?

Did you read the whole thread?

 

[WildZoo]

Did you read the whole thread?

Of course. I want it in your own words.

 

[Dr. ForgotToFlush]

Of course. I want it in your own words.

Already said why my votes were missing
What more do you want

 

[WildZoo]

Already said why my votes were missing
What more do you want

1) why didn't you contingency vote if you were going to be gone all day (D3)
2) why didn't you vote for one of your other suspects when you switched off Capri? (D4)

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

1) why didn't you contingency vote if you were going to be gone all day (D3)
2) why didn't you vote for one of your other suspects when you switched off Capri? (D4)

He kept switching from coop (you) to capri BTDUBS

 

[WildZoo]

So my one to two check ins per day is going to have to be sufficient, as pippy has no subs for me.

Did you ask for a sub?

So did emlady get mod killed essentially?

Again, off your game or wolfing. That was very obviously a vig kill.

Flushy
Capri
Sport
Miz

I'm not super sure about miz and sport but I'm positive flushy and Capri might be wolves. Capri's posts have been giving me weird vibes. I've been waiting to see if AM would tell us if anything about flushy was off since she knows him the best but she's not here anymore. As for the rest of you guys. I'm not trusting any of you so you're all on orange.
Coop
Genny
Moose
Jboo
Nav

Don't remember why I quoted this. Will come back to it.

FTF: I've been convinced from the start that there's a wolf in my group and welp. We're the only 2 left. While I don't want to kill my remaining PM partner, I do think the fact AM died, was revived, and died again is a little troublesome. As someone mentioned earlier, she's the one that has the best read on him, and he's been trying to kill her basically since D1.

However

I am not touching a FTF lynch with a ten foot pole today, and I would recommend everyone else follow suit.

Why?

Smh she doesnt want the prize to get burnt on me
And in all actuality i don't disagree
Feels like a waste

Food for thought sporty
If your reason for not wanting to push me isn't prize related

Um no. My reason for not wanting to lynch you is precisely prize related.

Progression of discussion re: why sporty said not to Lynch Flushy yesterday.
Again struck by @genny and @Navilly throwing shade at coop for interpreting this as they got a temporary lynch avoidance. They made it pretty obvious here.
Sporty said not to touch FTF that day and they both spoke of it being related to their prize. It's not that hard.

 

[WildZoo]

He kept switching from coop (you) to capri BTDUBS

Yes. I'm wondering why he ended up not voting at all when his top candidates were both on the board.

 

[WildZoo]

Feels like cards on the table time. Who shot emlady?

 

[WildZoo]

Lynch genny

 

[Dr. ForgotToFlush]

1) why didn't you contingency vote if you were going to be gone all day (D3)
2) why didn't you vote for one of your other suspects when you switched off Capri? (D4)

Didn't realize i was going to be gone all day
Didn't have much time left in the day
Plus both wagons were people I suspected
So again
what more do you really want

 

[Dr. ForgotToFlush]

Yes. I'm wondering why he ended up not voting at all when his top candidates were both on the board.

For you and anyone else who seemed to not read:
Didn't want the tie
So I unvoted to break it

 

[Dr. ForgotToFlush]

It really isn't as big as a deal as you are trying to make
My vote is essentially on coop in spirit but because of the lynch mechanics it isn't practical for me to actually be on coop
Do you understand yet

 

[WildZoo]

Didn't realize i was going to be gone all day
Didn't have much time left in the day
Plus both wagons were people I suspected
So again
what more do you really want

Final votes from you (and others) so I can analyze things better. I'm annoyed.

 

[WildZoo]

It really isn't as big as a deal as you are trying to make
My vote is essentially on coop in spirit but because of the lynch mechanics it isn't practical for me to actually be on coop
Do you understand yet

Well you were back and forth between Capri and coop, so I don't necessarily see it as that cut and dry.

 

[Dr. ForgotToFlush]

Well you were back and forth between Capri and coop, so I don't necessarily see it as that cut and dry.

The plan was always to late minute switch to coop
However, miz switched from coop to capri so I couldn't secure the lynch

 

[Dr. ForgotToFlush]

Dubz, this doesn't feel like a solve attempt
This feels like a "how do I make something out of nothing" attempt
You don't seem to be trying to understand my actions
You're instead projecting what you think I should have done and trying to hold me accountable against your false metric

 

[WildZoo]

The plan was always to late minute switch to coop
However, miz switched from coop to capri so I couldn't secure the lynch

From my perspective it's pretty amusing that your plan was to try to spew yourself village from a last minute switch from one villager to another lol

But, that is more of a village move than a wolf move, generally.

 

[WildZoo]

Dubz, this doesn't feel like a solve attempt
This feels like a "how do I make something out of nothing" attempt
You don't seem to be trying to understand my actions
You're instead projecting what you think I should have done and trying to hold me accountable against your false metric

Am I voting for you? Did I even list you in my top 3? Why are you overreacting to questioning about your actions?

 

[WildZoo]

I am in fact asking questions so I can try to decide how I feel about your thought process. Apparently we've forgotten that is how this game works.

 

[Navilly]

People seem to be upset that I came in asking questions and actually wanting this game to, I don't know, go somewhere instead of letting you all skate by doing barely anything.

In case anyone was wondering, there's a solid chance it's *yLo right now. I think maybe the wolves are nervous about the shake up right when they were planning to coast to an easy victory.

So let's see some proposed wolf packs. It's likely there are three wolves since the game isn't over yet and pip talked about it being wolf heavy. My top 3 are Genny, moose, and nav, as should be obvious from my initial questions. If one of those is wrong I'd go FTF.

Did you really just criticize me on being off my game and then literally reiterate my second wolf group? If you want to criticize my play and then come up with entirely different reads, then fine. But other then myself, your top wolf group is one of the two set ups that I envisioned. If this is how wolfy you plays nowadays, it’s a poor look on you going with insulting others play

 

[Dr. ForgotToFlush]

Am I voting for you? Did I even list you in my top 3? Why are you overreacting to questioning about your actions?

Because the questions aren't phrase to provide new information
You wouldn't need to ask these questions if you actually read the thread
All the answers are there
You had me reiterate things I already said for
Pretty much no reason?
Because you and I can both agree that it's all NAI
Your intentions were too vague for my liking

 

[WildZoo]

Did you really just criticize me on being off my game and then literally reiterate my second wolf group? If you want to criticize my play and then come up with entirely different reads, then fine. But other then myself, your top wolf group is one of the two set ups that I envisioned. If this is how wolfy you plays nowadays, it’s a poor look on you going with insulting others play

The other than yourself is a pretty important point. Along with the fact that your actual top wolf group is a completely off base imo and you have talked yourself into not voting for the one player who is in both groups.

And being off your game (or wolfing, that part is important too!) doesn't just involve a reads list.

 

[WildZoo]

Because the questions aren't phrase to provide new information
You wouldn't need to ask these questions if you actually read the thread
All the answers are there
You had me reiterate things I already said for
Pretty much no reason?
Because you and I can both agree that it's all NAI
Your intentions were too vague for my liking

I did read the thread. I was clarifying in real time. If you don't like it, well, you're already voting for me so just doing my best to parse things out and lynch a wolf today. You might try doing the same.

 

[Navilly]

Did you ask for a sub?

Again, off your game or wolfing. That was very obviously a vig kill.

Don't remember why I quoted this. Will come back to it.





Progression of discussion re: why sporty said not to Lynch Flushy yesterday.
Again struck by @genny and @Navilly throwing shade at coop for interpreting this as they got a temporary lynch avoidance. They made it pretty obvious here.
Sporty said not to touch FTF that day and they both spoke of it being related to their prize. It's not that hard.

I am doing the best I can with the little time I have. If you want to go and criticize my best effort with no time, I get it, I literally don’t have the time to play. But people need to stop tagging me and pestering me to play for the next 5 weeks then.

 

[Dr. ForgotToFlush]

I did read the thread. I was clarifying in real time. If you don't like it, well, you're already voting for me so just doing my best to parse things out and lynch a wolf today. You might try doing the same.

Again
Asking questions to get information that already exists doesn't equate to trying to find a wolf
It equates to busywork
I don't know how or why you have reads related questions for everybody else but for me you decided to ask about a lack of votes
Important to note that you're also the only one taking issue with the lack of votes, despite the explanations already being there
Makes you stick out when everyone else has accepted it and moved on

 

[WildZoo]

As for my village reads:
Sporty - the kind of easygoing shenanigans that are more typical of village. Voting record is terrible though, so this is 100% a tone read.
MsP - I don't thing the dolphin and jboo kills jive with a wolfy MsP. Have liked her posts, believe she's wolfunting.
Miz - feels good in PMs, last minute moves on a v/v lynch (yes I realize only I can see it from that perspective) feel like village Miz. Reactions to suspicion feel like village Miz too.

FTF is currently village-leaning neutral. AM seemed to think he was ok. I do think the move yesterday was more village. Some early posts reminded me of his posts in Reverse but I don't think I have personal experience with him villaging so that could just be attributed to his style.


Edit for error

 

[WildZoo]

I am doing the best I can with the little time I have. If you want to go and criticize my best effort with no time, I get it, I literally don’t have the time to play. But people need to stop tagging me and pestering me to play for the next 5 weeks then.

Well I'm not someone who pestered you to play, so take it up with those people.

You didn't answer, by the way. Did you ask for a sub?

 

[Dr. ForgotToFlush]

Personal experience
What on earth
We literally wolfed together what did you miss??

 

[WildZoo]

Personal experience
What on earth
We literally wolfed together what did you miss??

Sorry, I meant villaging

 

[Navilly]

Well I'm not someone who pestered you to play, so take it up with those people.

You didn't answer, by the way. Did you ask for a sub?

Sure did. Pippy said she didn’t have one until yesterday evening, which is when I have two days off and I told her I will keep trucking since miz apparently wanted to play the game with me while she was here.

And I get it but it’s annoying to hear “we don’t have enough players, please play.” In one breath from players and mods, and then in the next breath here people criticizing me because I don’t have enough time to play.

 

[Dr. ForgotToFlush]

So world building
Either i start with dubz
Or i start with miz/genny
I highlighted an association between all 3 of them earlier and I still don't think all 3 are town
If all 3 are town then that leaves:

 

[WildZoo]

Again
Asking questions to get information that already exists doesn't equate to trying to find a wolf
It equates to busywork
I don't know how or why you have reads related questions for everybody else but for me you decided to ask about a lack of votes
Important to note that you're also the only one taking issue with the lack of votes, despite the explanations already being there
Makes you stick out when everyone else has accepted it and moved on

It equates to me wanting to interact with you in real time about something that bothered me. I don't really give a **** if everyone else has moved on, they were around to ask about it when it happened, I was not.
Asking moose why she didn't sub out was also asking her about her lack of votes. Vote analysis is a part of how I operate so yes, I want to know why so many people were missing from the tally every damn day.

 

[Dr. ForgotToFlush]

MsP
Miranda
Sporty
Nav

And at that point 3 out of 4 names here have to be scum

 

[WildZoo]

So world building
Either i start with dubz
Or i start with miz/genny
I highlighted an association between all 3 of them earlier and I still don't think all 3 are town
If all 3 are town then that leaves:

MsP
Miranda
Sporty
Nav

And at that point 3 out of 4 names here have to be scum

You realize we don't have time to figure out if 3 people are village, right? Depending on how tonight's prize goes, this might be LyLo.

 

[Navilly]

So world building
Either i start with dubz
Or i start with miz/genny
I highlighted an association between all 3 of them earlier and I still don't think all 3 are town
If all 3 are town then that leaves:

There is no “starting”.

It’s a commitment, I think most agree that this is a lylo-Esque situation

 

[Dr. ForgotToFlush]

It equates to me wanting to interact with you in real time about something that bothered me. I don't really give a **** if everyone else has moved on, they were around to ask about it when it happened, I was not.
Asking moose why she didn't sub out was also asking her about her lack of votes. Vote analysis is a part of how I operate so yes, I want to know why so many people were missing from the tally every damn day.

Did you expect my answers to change in real time?
Because there are people with missing votes that actually went unexplained
I understand that you like VCA but the application here is pisspoor
Even if I didn't answer them, none of these questions actually lead to anything alignment revealing

Unless your line of thought is wagon avoidance
Then just come outright and say that instead of beating around the bush
Because if you think someone is avoiding a wagon you ask them for their reads on that wagon

 

[Dr. ForgotToFlush]

You realize we don't have time to figure out if 3 people are village, right? Depending on how tonight's prize goes, this might be LyLo.

Yeah this is all for glory
I need another mislynch but I don't think I have that luxury