So, if someone graduates with a Pharm.D, and becomes a licensed pharmacist, can they call them selves "Dr. Smith, Jones (or to use a movie reference that I'm sure many of you will recognize) Green, Black, Pink..."?
Can they put PhD after their signature, or is it not the same thing?
I agree! I once had a chemistry professor that got offended b/c I called her Ms. instead of Dr....I think people that get offended b/c of something like this are just insecure and pissed off that they didn't go to medical school instead. If you want the Dr. title so badly then go to med school!
I personally prefer to be called Ms. Dr. makes me sound like an old man! I prefer being YOUNG.
. But yeah, it's kinda funny how one more year of rotations can be all the difference from a BS to a Doctorate.... hmm.... the gears are going lol.
A.) Are you guys serious? Do you know the amount of time and effort it takes to get a PhD? Are you even aware of the timeline and processes that occur in graduate school? Becoming a candidate which entails a qualifying exams that is not particularly easy due to the fact of concentrating on your specific field of study, meet with your committee members to talk about the specific research experiments you will be performing... it's not easy. Along with that you'll have to take a few classes relative to your field of research. Not to mention, you have to write a thesis, defend it with the data you obtained in front of a group of expertises in your specialization, and publish a bunch of papers to back up every little detail that these expertises may pick at (which most of you on here probably cannot attest to). It's a lot of work getting a PhD. Some less than others, but the schooling is none like anything you have seen. In undergrad you are basically told what to do and how to do it and your life is mapped out for you. In Grad school you have a committee explain to you what experiments they suggest, and then you figure out everything on your own. Sure you have a mentor or a PI to help you along the way but ultimately, you take on the work. Ever wonder why some graduate students have bags under their eyes? So, it would be pure disrespect to not call your professor Dr. so and so, since they are the ones with a specific knowledge in a specific field which they will pass on to you. It makes A LOT of sense. And by the way, I'm pretty sure the term "doctor", is actually broken down to mean teacher, adviser and scholar. doct- meaning to teach or show and er- meaning "one who" (thank you medical terminology). Not to mention the fact that before society starting using the term colloquially every doctor that was seen or mentioned was usually in theology. So if you ask me, your "bent out of shape professors" are actually right. Doctors can be applied professional and academic. http://dctech.com/physics/features/0203.php
http://forums.degreeinfo.com/showthread.php?t=27711
B.) Let's just end it right here. You have a doctorate, than by golly gee wiz you have the right to be called a doctor. If only i could get the rest of you to look at the big picture. Whether someone wants to be called a doctor or not is completely up to them, but if they were not a doctor they would not have a doctorate. Pharmacist, Physicians, even RN's who go on to obtain their doctorates of whatever kind, and Lawyers holding the ever so coveted JD degree are all doctors. Once again, Doctor does not = Physician. And just because someone with a DOCTORATE degree wants to be referred as a doctor and isn't in medicine it doesn't mean they are bitter Med school rejects. Get it through your heads people. Not everyone wants to take that plunge, some people have different views on what they want to do with their lives. So pelase, stop pulling out that "bitter med school reject card" it's as old and lame as the 'I have a black friend" and race card. Have a great day
Oh. Ps. For those of you who completely object to this, go sit down with your professor and continue to call them Mrs or Mr. antaganizingly. It would make for a great humbling experience, I'm sure.
she sucked at teaching! ) )
A.) Are you guys serious? Do you know the amount of time and effort it takes to get a PhD? Are you even aware of the timeline and processes that occur in graduate school? Becoming a candidate which entails a qualifying exams that is not particularly easy due to the fact of concentrating on your specific field of study, meet with your committee members to talk about the specific research experiments you will be performing... it's not easy. Along with that you'll have to take a few classes relative to your field of research. Not to mention, you have to write a thesis, defend it with the data you obtained in front of a group of expertises in your specialization, and publish a bunch of papers to back up every little detail that these expertises may pick at (which most of you on here probably cannot attest to). It's a lot of work getting a PhD. Some less than others, but the schooling is none like anything you have seen. In undergrad you are basically told what to do and how to do it and your life is mapped out for you. In Grad school you have a committee explain to you what experiments they suggest, and then you figure out everything on your own. Sure you have a mentor or a PI to help you along the way but ultimately, you take on the work. Ever wonder why some graduate students have bags under their eyes? So, it would be pure disrespect to not call your professor Dr. so and so, since they are the ones with a specific knowledge in a specific field which they will pass on to you. It makes A LOT of sense. And by the way, I'm pretty sure the term "doctor", is actually broken down to mean teacher, adviser and scholar. doct- meaning to teach or show and er- meaning "one who" (thank you medical terminology). Not to mention the fact that before society starting using the term colloquially every doctor that was seen or mentioned was usually in theology. So if you ask me, your "bent out of shape professors" are actually right. Doctors can be applied professional and academic. http://dctech.com/physics/features/0203.php
http://forums.degreeinfo.com/showthread.php?t=27711
B.) Let's just end it right here. You have a doctorate, than by golly gee wiz you have the right to be called a doctor. If only i could get the rest of you to look at the big picture. Whether someone wants to be called a doctor or not is completely up to them, but if they were not a doctor they would not have a doctorate. Pharmacist, Physicians, even RN's who go on to obtain their doctorates of whatever kind, and Lawyers holding the ever so coveted JD degree are all doctors. Once again, Doctor does not = Physician. And just because someone with a DOCTORATE degree wants to be referred as a doctor and isn't in medicine it doesn't mean they are bitter Med school rejects. Get it through your heads people. Not everyone wants to take that plunge, some people have different views on what they want to do with their lives. So pelase, stop pulling out that "bitter med school reject card" it's as old and lame as the 'I have a black friend" and race card. Have a great day
Oh. Ps. For those of you who completely object to this, go sit down with your professor and continue to call them Mrs or Mr. antaganizingly. It would make for a great humbling experience, I'm sure.
It never ceases to amaze me that pharmacy students don't even know that they are in a professional program rather than a graduate program. I guess that's a little off topic though...
It's not really PhD quality, but they require all PharmD students to write a proposal, conduct the research/data collect, and then come up some conclusions and defend it before a committee. It's about a two year long process that's unique to our college of pharmacy, though most of the time students tag along on current research; however, every year there are always the ambitious among the pharmacy students that co-author publications.They certainly don't make that correction nor distinction here. Maybe we're all just unaware of it, but the term graduate student around here is used more as a colloquial term for something post undergraduate. I guess we actually produce a pseudo thesis/dissertation of sorts here
They certainly don't make that correction nor distinction here. Maybe we're all just unaware of it, but the term graduate student around here is used more as a colloquial term for something post undergraduate. I guess we actually produce a pseudo thesis/dissertation of sorts here
edit: it looks like you're right in terms of the distinctions! It's weird to refer to yourself as a professional student though. Graduate student seems like such a better generic encompassing term. What do you refer to people who are getting their master's? MDs/JDs I assumed were also graduate students too.
They certainly don't make that correction nor distinction here. Maybe we're all just unaware of it, but the term graduate student around here is used more as a colloquial term for something post undergraduate. I guess we actually produce a pseudo thesis/dissertation of sorts here
I mean they're always optional for the overachievers in other institutions, but most of our graduates that went on to residencies said that the process was overwhelmingly useful. It would still be pretty cool to be published while you're in school though.
