Chance me/where should I apply thread 2017: tyjacobs and feralis

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alasra said:
  • Age: 24 pakistani female
  • GPA:
    • BCP: 3.27
    • Science: 3.32
    • Overall GPA: 3.43
    • Overall graduate GPA: 3.96 (4 more credit hours left; not calculated w/ overall GPA)
  • School attended:
    • University of Georgia
    • 2 years at community college
  • DAT: (please advise if it is necessary to retake my DAT)
    • Biology: 21
    • General Chemistry: 17
    • Organic Chemistry: 18
    • PAT: 23
    • Reading Comprehension: 21
    • QR: 17
    • TS: 18
    • AA: 19
  • Extracurricular activities:
    • Volunteering as dental assistant at two free dental clinics (~75 hours total)
    • Volunteer Coordinator position at pre-dental club for two years (~250 hours)
    • Teaching Assistant for 1 year
    • Research for 1 year; no publications
    • General Volunteering ~300 hours
    • Shadowing: ~610 hours General Dentist and ~40 hours Oral Surgeon
  • Letters of Rec- 4 strong letters:
    • 1 I wrote myself on the behalf of a science professor
    • 1 from a general dentist I shadowed for ~4 years
    • 1 from a science professor I knew well
    • 1 from our pre-dental advisor (he is a science professor, but I have not taken classes with him) who I also work for as a TA
  • I plan on submitting my app June 5th (that is when I’ve asked for the letters to be submitted by)
  • Professional goals:
    • I’m leaning towards general dentistry, but am also interested in specializing/doing research.
  • State of residence:
    • Georgia
  • Misc. information:
    • I played flute for 8 years, am very good with makeup (included for dexterity purposes), and have a very unique personal story related to dentistry (I had all my teeth crowned/root canal treated by the time I was 19; experienced both good and bad dentistry).
  • QUESTIONS:
    • Can I get by with the DAT scores I have?
    • My dad has been a resident in Virginia for almost a decade. Can I apply as instate for VCU School of Dentistry?
    • This will be my second time applying, but I did not apply seriously last cycle (meaning I applied late, had a weak application, knew I wasn't going to get in) because I wanted to see how the application works in order to apply ASAP this year without problems. I also only applied to 6 schools. Can I say that I am a first time applicant on my 2017 application since I will be applying to 10+ NEW schools (I will only reapply to 3/6 schools from last cycle). It's a weird question, but I don't want the new schools to think they are my second choice.
Thank you so much for your help!!
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Does your dad claim you as a dependent on his taxes?
 
Will be responding later tn/early tomorrow
 
I have been looking at your thread but my biggest problem right now is making a list of schools to apply to. I have a primitive list and wanted to ask if you know what I should add/remove:

UT Houston, UT San Antonio, TAMU Baylor, USC, UCLA, UoP, UCSF, Western University, NYU, Boston, UNLV, Temple, Louisville, UNLV, Midwestern

age: 20
overall gpa: 4.0
science gpa: 4.0
bio-chem-physics gpa: 4.0
undergrad attended: University of Texas at Austin
DAT score: 24 AA, 26 TS, 20 PAT, 27 OC, 24 GC, 26 BIO, 21 RC, 20 QR
extracurriculars: Just members in HOSA, muslim students association, and pre-dental society (not very active), research freshman and sophomore years at my school, research at Baylor College of Medicine
shadowing hours: 120ish with general dentist
letters of rec: So far I have 5 to pick from (Gchem, ochem, plant bio, calc 1, and biostats), all pretty strong
when you plan on submitting AADSAS application: ASAP (first week of june)
professional goals: Haven't really thought into this much
state of residence: TX
 
age: 23
overall gpa: ~ 3.3-3.4
science gpa: ~ 3.45-3.5
bio-chem-physics gpa: ~ 3.48-3.5
undergrad attended: University of Southern California (USC)
DAT score: 20 AA, 21 TS, 20 BIO, 23 OC, 20 PAT, 17 QR
Extracurriculars: Currently leading a dental research project with UC Irvine Pediatrics and Healthy Smiles for Kids.
shadowing hours: 80 volunteer hours with UCLA School of Dentistry. >100 hours if include research project.
letters of rec: 4 from science teachers, 1 from research manager, 1 from a dentist.
when you plan on submitting AADSAS application: Early June.
professional goals: Specialize in children with special needs/neurodevelopmental disorders (I have a B.S. in Neuroscience).
state of residence: California
 
alasra said:
Ah.. damn. Didn't think about that. No he doesn't.
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I would doubt that you would eligible for instate tuition then.... unless you've already established dual state residency.

You might just be more likely accepted to VCU (w/o instate tuition) because of your strong ties to VA. At least you have a great state like Georgia, where you are actually from: cheaper tuition and heavy instate preference (~90%). I would rather be a GA resident then VA if it just came up to getting into dental school.
 
kobeshaq5 said:
I have been looking at your thread but my biggest problem right now is making a list of schools to apply to. I have a primitive list and wanted to ask if you know what I should add/remove:

UT Houston, UT San Antonio, TAMU Baylor, USC, UCLA, UoP, UCSF, Western University, NYU, Boston, UNLV, Temple, Louisville, UNLV, Midwestern

age: 20
overall gpa: 4.0
science gpa: 4.0
bio-chem-physics gpa: 4.0
undergrad attended: University of Texas at Austin
DAT score: 24 AA, 26 TS, 20 PAT, 27 OC, 24 GC, 26 BIO, 21 RC, 20 QR
extracurriculars: Just members in HOSA, muslim students association, and pre-dental society (not very active), research freshman and sophomore years at my school, research at Baylor College of Medicine
shadowing hours: 120ish with general dentist
letters of rec: So far I have 5 to pick from (Gchem, ochem, plant bio, calc 1, and biostats), all pretty strong
when you plan on submitting AADSAS application: ASAP (first week of june)
professional goals: Haven't really thought into this much
state of residence: TX
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Yeah, so you know youre in a great position. If I were you, I would list all the universities by $$$ and chose the cheapest. NYU is expensive (Im talking 550k at graduation). UT schools are like 250k. Unless you are rich and REALLLLLLYYYY want to specialize, go with the cheapest school.
 
FeralisExtremum said:
Will you be applying to schools in Canada, or schools in the US as an international applicant? Either way might be pretty tough given your current GPA.
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Just US, I'm hoping to wait till next year to reapply and raise my GPA to a 3.5 or 3.6.
 
FeralisExtremum said:
I think I mentioned this before, but I'm still surprised you didn't get in on the first cycle. Definitely follow up with the Texas schools and consider downplaying your previous medical school aspirations as much as possible. Your chances should still be good as your DAT and GPA are solid. Not sure if you're interested in staying in Texas, but if you have interest in OMFS and Endo I would definitely look at private schools as well. How many schools did you apply to the first time?
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LOL yeah everyone is still wondering why I didnt get in, including my academic advisor haha

I applied to some rather oos unfriendly schools, total of about 10 including TX schools. Only feedback I got was from Baylor who said maybe its because I was out of school since 2015. I also think having taken the MCAT three times did not help.

I am interested in staying in TX and hoping I can specialize from here. I briefly addressed why I switched to dentistry in my PS without actually stating it verbatim.

To be fair I only had about 80 hours of shadowing and about 75 hours of volunteering at the time of last application and was not an RDA.

Also, any quick suggestions for private schools that I would be competitive at and would make it easier to specialize? I feel like Columbia and Harvard are a bit out of reach with my DAT and GPA
 
tyjacobs said:
apply to rutgers + a bunch of private schools (nyu, tufts, touro, etc.). Your science GPA is a low so thats why you want to apply to a bunch of private schools. You can throw in some out of state schools if you want (i.e. uconn), but your GPA is low so idk how competitive you will be for them
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FeralisExtremum said:
Definitely apply to schools in the Northeast, your chances are good overall. Only thing holding you back is the GPA, but your DAT should be able to balance it out. Schools like UConn/Stony Brook would be a bit of a reach with the GPA, but may still be worth applying to.
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Thanks guys, I appreciate it. Yeah I wouldn't mind attending private. Glad I at least have a shot there.
 
kobeshaq5 said:
I have been looking at your thread but my biggest problem right now is making a list of schools to apply to. I have a primitive list and wanted to ask if you know what I should add/remove:

UT Houston, UT San Antonio, TAMU Baylor, USC, UCLA, UoP, UCSF, Western University, NYU, Boston, UNLV, Temple, Louisville, UNLV, Midwestern

age: 20
overall gpa: 4.0
science gpa: 4.0
bio-chem-physics gpa: 4.0
undergrad attended: University of Texas at Austin
DAT score: 24 AA, 26 TS, 20 PAT, 27 OC, 24 GC, 26 BIO, 21 RC, 20 QR
extracurriculars: Just members in HOSA, muslim students association, and pre-dental society (not very active), research freshman and sophomore years at my school, research at Baylor College of Medicine
shadowing hours: 120ish with general dentist
letters of rec: So far I have 5 to pick from (Gchem, ochem, plant bio, calc 1, and biostats), all pretty strong
when you plan on submitting AADSAS application: ASAP (first week of june)
professional goals: Haven't really thought into this much
state of residence: TX
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Hey, I'm not Feralis or Tyjacobs, but i would recommend that you only apply to Texas schools if that is where you would like to go. I only applied in state and it was the best decision i have made, there is no point in my opinion applying somewhere you wouldn't go, for example would you actually attend NYU?

Assuming you have average interview skills, you'll be fine for the Texas schools. I would honestly only apply to like 2 out of state schools at most if i were feeling a little insecure with my interview abilities.
 
kobeshaq5 said:
I have been looking at your thread but my biggest problem right now is making a list of schools to apply to. I have a primitive list and wanted to ask if you know what I should add/remove:

UT Houston, UT San Antonio, TAMU Baylor, USC, UCLA, UoP, UCSF, Western University, NYU, Boston, UNLV, Temple, Louisville, UNLV, Midwestern

age: 20
overall gpa: 4.0
science gpa: 4.0
bio-chem-physics gpa: 4.0
undergrad attended: University of Texas at Austin
DAT score: 24 AA, 26 TS, 20 PAT, 27 OC, 24 GC, 26 BIO, 21 RC, 20 QR
extracurriculars: Just members in HOSA, muslim students association, and pre-dental society (not very active), research freshman and sophomore years at my school, research at Baylor College of Medicine
shadowing hours: 120ish with general dentist
letters of rec: So far I have 5 to pick from (Gchem, ochem, plant bio, calc 1, and biostats), all pretty strong
when you plan on submitting AADSAS application: ASAP (first week of june)
professional goals: Haven't really thought into this much
state of residence: TX
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If those are all schools you'd be happy to attend then keep them, but consider removing the ones you realistically wouldn't want to go to because you don't need too many safety picks. You have a great shot at pretty much any school with your stats. If you're interested in specializing add in the Ivies. You have a good shot at just about any school that takes OOS students.
 
FeralisExtremum said:
If those are all schools you'd be happy to attend then keep them, but consider removing the ones you realistically wouldn't want to go to because you don't need too many safety picks. You have a great shot at pretty much any school with your stats. If you're interested in specializing add in the Ivies. You have a good shot at just about any school that takes OOS students.
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So not trying to act like the Texas schools are perfect, but don't you think the chances of specializing are still very high just attending a texas school already? For example San Antonio has a lot of students who decide to specialize.
 
stoopidmonkeycatdog said:
So not trying to act like the Texas schools are perfect, but don't you think the chances of specializing are still very high just attending a texas school already? For example San Antonio has a lot of students who decide to specialize.
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Depends on the specialty, but if it requires a high class rank or outstanding performance then sure it's totally doable from Texas schools, just a lot more difficult. A lot of strong candidates are going to stay in Texas for the low tuition and ranking high among them is challenging. I think a lot of pre-dents underestimate the difficulty of ranking high in dental school and any school that lets you bypass that in some way (e.g. UConn, Harvard) is a major plus.
 
FeralisExtremum:

A bit unsure about your comment. Are you saying I can add more schools after I see how the DAT retake goes?
 
Age: 23 this summer
overall gpa: 3.4~3.5
science gpa: 3.37
bio-chem-physics gpa: 3.37
undergrad attended (if you are comfortable sharing): UCR ‘16
DAT score (include AA and all sections): 22 AA /23 TS /23 OC /27 GC /21 BIO /23 RC /18 QR /17 PA L
extracirriculars:

- Finance Director of Pre-Health Conference for 1 year, then active board member for 2 years (Alpha Sigma Omicron – Pre-Health Fraternity)

- College of Natural and Agricultural Sciences (CNAS) Senator for Associated Students of UCR (ASUCR) for 1 year (campaigning/passing policy too stressful and realized politics is not for me)
- Extensive Musical Training:
- Piano mentor/Teacher for 4 years
- Certificate of Merit level 9
- 16 years of Piano Experience
- Treasurer of Beta Upsilon Delta for 1 year
- Undergraduate Research 100 hours total (Both Microbiology and Bioinformatics/Genetics)
~ 100+ Misc Volunteer hours
~150 hours volunteer at Kaiser Permanante, Riverside (afterwards realized medicine was not for me)
- Licensed EMT for Riverside County (now expired) (only active for 1 year, did this while volunteering at kaiser and realized medicine wasn’t for me)

shadowing hours (who did you shadow): 500+ PAID hours Current DA/(RDA in progress). Ortho/GP mainly.
Endo/OMFS <50 hours


letters of rec (how many, how strong, from who): 1 Dentist, Ortho - very strong (can obtain more from his GP associates if req’d)
1 Bio Professor (medium)
1 Gchem Professor (strong, but from a CC)
1 Ochem Professor (strong, but from a CC)
when you plan on submitting AADSAS application: June 1st for AADSAS
professional goals: Ortho/OMFS
state of residence: Cali
misc info you think is important:
Have not taken A&P yet, but will take during Fall 2k17 if really needed. I’ve heard some schools may still accept as long as I take A&P before matriculating? Besides having extensive piano training, I also was semi-pro gamer (included for dexterity purposes, and quit early b/c grades became impacted).


Questions:
I’m based in CA so my top schools are USC and Western. How are my chances to get in to those specifically?
Also, I realize my GPA isn’t as stellar as I wanted it to be… so wondering what other schools should I apply to? Really looking for some guidance or suggestions to any schools.
 
Double_DDs said:
Age: 23 this summer
overall gpa: 3.4~3.5
science gpa: 3.37
bio-chem-physics gpa: 3.37
undergrad attended (if you are comfortable sharing): UCR ‘16
DAT score (include AA and all sections): 22 AA /23 TS /23 OC /27 GC /21 BIO /23 RC /18 QR /17 PA L
extracirriculars:

- Finance Director of Pre-Health Conference for 1 year, then active board member for 2 years (Alpha Sigma Omicron – Pre-Health Fraternity)

- College of Natural and Agricultural Sciences (CNAS) Senator for Associated Students of UCR (ASUCR) for 1 year (campaigning/passing policy too stressful and realized politics is not for me)
- Extensive Musical Training:
- Piano mentor/Teacher for 4 years
- Certificate of Merit level 9
- 16 years of Piano Experience
- Treasurer of Beta Upsilon Delta for 1 year
- Undergraduate Research 100 hours total (Both Microbiology and Bioinformatics/Genetics)
~ 100+ Misc Volunteer hours
~150 hours volunteer at Kaiser Permanante, Riverside (afterwards realized medicine was not for me)
- Licensed EMT for Riverside County (now expired) (only active for 1 year, did this while volunteering at kaiser and realized medicine wasn’t for me)

shadowing hours (who did you shadow): 500+ PAID hours Current DA/(RDA in progress). Ortho/GP mainly.
Endo/OMFS <50 hours


letters of rec (how many, how strong, from who): 1 Dentist, Ortho - very strong (can obtain more from his GP associates if req’d)
1 Bio Professor (medium)
1 Gchem Professor (strong, but from a CC)
1 Ochem Professor (strong, but from a CC)
when you plan on submitting AADSAS application: June 1st for AADSAS
professional goals: Ortho/OMFS
state of residence: Cali
misc info you think is important:
Have not taken A&P yet, but will take during Fall 2k17 if really needed. I’ve heard some schools may still accept as long as I take A&P before matriculating? Besides having extensive piano training, I also was semi-pro gamer (included for dexterity purposes, and quit early b/c grades became impacted).


Questions:
I’m based in CA so my top schools are USC and Western. How are my chances to get in to those specifically?
Also, I realize my GPA isn’t as stellar as I wanted it to be… so wondering what other schools should I apply to? Really looking for some guidance or suggestions to any schools.
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Good shot to get interviewed from usc and western. Apply to as many private schools as you can (you should consider applying to the east coast ones) + loma linda because your sci gpa is a lil low but your dat score off sets it for these schools. Apply to around 14-16 total
 
Double_DDs said:
Age: 23 this summer
overall gpa: 3.4~3.5
science gpa: 3.37
bio-chem-physics gpa: 3.37
undergrad attended (if you are comfortable sharing): UCR ‘16
DAT score (include AA and all sections): 22 AA /23 TS /23 OC /27 GC /21 BIO /23 RC /18 QR /17 PA L
extracirriculars:

- Finance Director of Pre-Health Conference for 1 year, then active board member for 2 years (Alpha Sigma Omicron – Pre-Health Fraternity)

- College of Natural and Agricultural Sciences (CNAS) Senator for Associated Students of UCR (ASUCR) for 1 year (campaigning/passing policy too stressful and realized politics is not for me)
- Extensive Musical Training:
- Piano mentor/Teacher for 4 years
- Certificate of Merit level 9
- 16 years of Piano Experience
- Treasurer of Beta Upsilon Delta for 1 year
- Undergraduate Research 100 hours total (Both Microbiology and Bioinformatics/Genetics)
~ 100+ Misc Volunteer hours
~150 hours volunteer at Kaiser Permanante, Riverside (afterwards realized medicine was not for me)
- Licensed EMT for Riverside County (now expired) (only active for 1 year, did this while volunteering at kaiser and realized medicine wasn’t for me)

shadowing hours (who did you shadow): 500+ PAID hours Current DA/(RDA in progress). Ortho/GP mainly.
Endo/OMFS <50 hours


letters of rec (how many, how strong, from who): 1 Dentist, Ortho - very strong (can obtain more from his GP associates if req’d)
1 Bio Professor (medium)
1 Gchem Professor (strong, but from a CC)
1 Ochem Professor (strong, but from a CC)
when you plan on submitting AADSAS application: June 1st for AADSAS
professional goals: Ortho/OMFS
state of residence: Cali
misc info you think is important:
Have not taken A&P yet, but will take during Fall 2k17 if really needed. I’ve heard some schools may still accept as long as I take A&P before matriculating? Besides having extensive piano training, I also was semi-pro gamer (included for dexterity purposes, and quit early b/c grades became impacted).


Questions:
I’m based in CA so my top schools are USC and Western. How are my chances to get in to those specifically?
Also, I realize my GPA isn’t as stellar as I wanted it to be… so wondering what other schools should I apply to? Really looking for some guidance or suggestions to any schools.
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As a California resident with so many choices, why would your top choices be two of the most expensive schools in the state?

Shoot for UCLA or UCSF
 
blablabla1 said:
As a California resident with so many choices, why would your top choices be two of the most expensive schools in the state?

Shoot for UCLA or UCSF
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Science gpa is low for both schools i mean OP can apply there its just that his shots of getting interviews arent grear
 
blablabla1 said:
As a California resident with so many choices, why would your top choices be two of the most expensive schools in the state?

Shoot for UCLA or UCSF
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LA/SF will definitely be my hail mary choices, i just don't have the GPA to really expect an interview lol.

tyjacobs said:
Good shot to get interviewed from usc and western. Apply to as many private schools as you can (you should consider applying to the east coast ones) + loma linda because your sci gpa is a lil low but your dat score off sets it for these schools. Apply to around 14-16 total
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Thanks for the input! @tyjacobs
 
tyjacobs said:
Science gpa is low for both schools i mean OP can apply there its just that his shots of getting interviews arent grear
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His DAT is pretty great, especially in the science sections. Averages are averages, some will be accepted with stats below the average, some above. I'm not saying to expect acceptances from the schools, just saying his GOAL should be UCLA or UCSF, not USC and Western, especially as a CA resident.
 
FeralisExtremum said:
Which school did you attend? Feel free to PM if you don't want to disclose it publicly, it may change how your GPA is looked at. The DAT is strong, GPA is a bit lower which will affect how competitive you are at certain private schools that would have been a good fit if you're interested in OMFS. Once I know which school you attended I should be able to give more specific feedback on where to apply.
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Which schools are these?
 
FeralisExtremum said:
Can you give some more detail on what kind of graduate program you went through? Was it a master's with a science emphasis, what kind of courses did you take? Doing well in the graduate program tends to help make up for lower undergrad GPA, but the undergrad GPA still gets some consideration and is a bit low + the DAT is below average as well. I would retake the DAT but the time you have left until the application cycle opens is not much. Nonetheless, you could try retaking and then submitting updated scores by late June/early July for consideration. VCU probably won't consider you instate unless you've specifically been living in the state, the residency of parents is typically not considered. You cannot say you're a first time applicant - the question asked is on the AADSAS application if you've ever applied before, and since you have, it doesn't matter which specific schools you have or haven't applied to before. Apply VERY broadly (15+ schools) and make sure they're OOS friendly.
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Thanks for answering my questions! I appreciate the advice!

The master's program was all upper level science courses (endocrinology, tumor immunology, medical microbiology, bacterial pathogenesis, biochemistry, a public health course on tobacco, and two mediocre/bull**** science classes (biosafety & bioethics and biotechology)). I've completed 36/40 required hours for the degree. I'll be retaking my DAT mid June, so I'm really hoping for a 20+ TS.
 
Scumbag_Steve said:
Probably referring to Harvard/Columbia/Penn. There are state schools that are just as good for that but more importantly you have the best avatar on this website
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I don't see no John Wall in his avatar, what you talking about?
 
blablabla1 said:
His DAT is pretty great, especially in the science sections. Averages are averages, some will be accepted with stats below the average, some above. I'm not saying to expect acceptances from the schools, just saying his GOAL should be UCLA or UCSF, not USC and Western, especially as a CA resident.
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You are right that some people below the averages but it is very hard to predict who those people will be. I am making recommendations (which obviously can be incorrect). It is very expensive to apply to dental school. I dont know the financial situation of the OP but if OP is low on cash and cant apply to many schopls, UCLA and UCSF wouldnt be the best places to apply. However, if money is not an issie OP is more than welcome to apply to both schools to see what happens.
 
tyjacobs said:
Good shot to get interviewed from usc and western. Apply to as many private schools as you can (you should consider applying to the east coast ones) + loma linda because your sci gpa is a lil low but your dat score off sets it for these schools. Apply to around 14-16 total
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I agree with this. Applying to UCSF/UCLA still is fine, but the odds are against you with the science GPA. The DAT is solid but applying from California is tough so apply broadly.
 
Thank you so much for doing this to help everyone out.

age: 22
overall gpa: 3.83
science gpa: It should be about similar to my BCP gpa
bio-chem-physics gpa: 3.78
undergrad attended: UCLA
DAT score: 24AA/25TS/23PAT/29Ochem/25Gchem/24Bio/23RC/21QR
extracurriculars:
  • Dragon boat rowing
  • Tutor
  • Translator
  • Worked as an assistant at a freight forwarding company
  • Research (currently in an oral microbiology lab, previously in a psychology of addictions lab) but no publications
  • Organized a retreat for young scholarship students for a dental organization that does medical missions
  • Volunteered at a local environmental center
shadowing hours: 150 general dentist
letters of rec: 3 science professors - medium, 1 dentist - strong
when you plan on submitting AADSAS application: June 5
professional goals: Currently I would like to aim for general dentistry because of the wide array of procedures that can be done, but I would like to shadow in the future in case I change my mind about specializing. My goal is to use my dentistry knowledge in the future to spread oral healthcare knowledge to those who do not have access to such care.
state of residence: International student
schools I am considering:
  • UoP
  • BU
  • Tufts
  • Maryland
  • NYU
  • SUNY Buffalo
  • Columbia
  • UPenn
  • UCLA (?)
  • UCSF (?)
I was wondering if I should add any other schools that are friendly to international students? Or should I be taking out some schools that are currently on my list that are not as friendly? Thank you so much in advance!
 
woobb said:
Thank you so much for doing this to help everyone out.

age: 22
overall gpa: 3.83
science gpa: It should be about similar to my BCP gpa
bio-chem-physics gpa: 3.78
undergrad attended: UCLA
DAT score: 24AA/25TS/23PAT/29Ochem/25Gchem/24Bio/23RC/21QR
extracurriculars:
  • Dragon boat rowing
  • Tutor
  • Translator
  • Worked as an assistant at a freight forwarding company
  • Research (currently in an oral microbiology lab, previously in a psychology of addictions lab) but no publications
  • Organized a retreat for young scholarship students for a dental organization that does medical missions
  • Volunteered at a local environmental center
shadowing hours: 150 general dentist
letters of rec: 3 science professors - medium, 1 dentist - strong
when you plan on submitting AADSAS application: June 5
professional goals: Currently I would like to aim for general dentistry because of the wide array of procedures that can be done, but I would like to shadow in the future in case I change my mind about specializing. My goal is to use my dentistry knowledge in the future to spread oral healthcare knowledge to those who do not have access to such care.
state of residence: International student
schools I am considering:
  • UoP
  • BU
  • Tufts
  • Maryland
  • NYU
  • SUNY Buffalo
  • Columbia
  • UPenn
  • UCLA (?)
  • UCSF (?)
I was wondering if I should add any other schools that are friendly to international students? Or should I be taking out some schools that are currently on my list that are not as friendly? Thank you so much in advance!
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Never hurts to add schools that are international friendly but you are a very strong applicant. I would keep UCLA and UCSF, you have a shot at both despite the fact that they don't take too many international students. Add UDM and Case. Not sure if Tufts takes too many international students.
 
Personal info: 21, white male, 1st gen college student
Undergrad: Bio major, chem minor, attended state school in Ohio
Residence: Appalachian Ohio
GPA: 4.00/4.00 (elementary, high school, undergrad)
DAT: 21 AA, 20 TS, 20 PA, 18 RC, 18 BIO, 25 OC, 22 GC, 20 QR
Shadowing: 120 hours spread out (5 offices, 10 dentists)
Volunteering: 120 hours spread out (recently strictly volunteering at mental health hospital every other week)
Leadership: none
ECs: Pre-dental club for 2 years, running club, scholar member, intramural bball
Work: golf course, tutor (during semester and summer), gen chem review session leader (taught like a pass/fail recitation/review class), research
Research: Half of a summer at my school's med school in the diabetes institute, co-author of a methods paper
Hand skills: good at video games, great hand-eye coordination... don't really do many things with my hands besides that
LORs: 2 science (average to strongish), one adviser (average)
Professional goal: practice as a general dentist, provide care in an area in the Midwest similar to a place where I grew up (a place where there is a need for care due to lack of dentists). I plan on hopefully doing a GPR to expand my qualifications. I want to be able to do a wide variety of procedures to provide my patients with the best possible care and treatment. Potentially starting a practice with my brother (a recent grad (3rd in class) at OSU, and attendee of a very nice GPR program).
Applying to: Ohio State, Pittsburgh, Iowa, Marquette
*Will be applying as early as one can*
 
Scumbag_Steve said:
Probably referring to Harvard/Columbia/Penn. There are state schools that are just as good for that but more importantly you have the best avatar on this website
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IT is my guy. Anyone know how they fixed his avulsed tooth
 
FeralisExtremum said:
Never hurts to add schools that are international friendly but you are a very strong applicant. I would keep UCLA and UCSF, you have a shot at both despite the fact that they don't take too many international students. Add UDM and Case. Not sure if Tufts takes too many international students.
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Thank you! I will look into adding those schools to my list 🙂
 
tyjacobs said:
Hello! application cycle is beginning soon. @FeralisExtremum and I are D1s at columbia college of dental medicine. We are both experts at this stuff because we have collectively answered these questions many times on SDN. If you would like us to chance you/tell you where to apply, we am more than happy to help you! Just fill out the form below and we will give you my advice. We are in finals ssn so it may take some time to respond (we will respond in an adequate amount of time though)

*****READ -- YOU NEED TO HAVE TAKEN DAT OR ELSE WE CANNOT CHANCE YOU*******

to calculate GPA, use this link to tell you what classes fall under what category http://hpplc.indiana.edu/documents/AADSASCourseSubjects2015_071414.pdf

here is how you calculate GPA (download the PDF, its from aadsas):
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwidgLeb9N7TAhUCRCYKHbj4A00QFggiMAA&url=http://www.adea.org/WorkArea/DownloadAsset.aspx?id=24512&usg=AFQjCNF4aw1Jc4wH76maZCox3XlMyB-lYQ&cad=rja

age (if you are comfortable, yes this matters to some schools)
overall gpa
science gpa
bio-chem-physics gpa
undergrad attended (if you are comfortable sharing)
DAT score (include AA and all sections)
extracirriculars
shadowing hours (who did you shadow)
letters of rec (how many, how strong, from who)
when you plan on submitting AADSAS application
professional goals
state of residence
misc info you think is important:
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21
4.0
4,0
4.0
University of North Carolina at Charlotte (known as being the most challenging in-state chemistry department in NC)
AA 22 TS 23 PAT 19 RC 22 BIO 22 GC 22 OC 27 QR 18
approx 40 hours directly dental related volunteering, approx 400 non-dental related experiences, hold leadership position at schools pre dental club, apart of the university honors program
200, oral surgeon, 3 general dentists, orthodontist
5 letters included in my committee letter and 1 general dentist letter. Letters from professors that will be put in my committee letter will be organic II professor, Animal Physiology professor, Histology professor, public health professor, and econometrics professor
submit middle of June
Oral/Maxillofacial Surgeon in NC, considering academia as well
NC
worked full time job in the summer and part time job throughout school to help put myself through school, kind of made volunteering tough, have held a couple of positions tutoring at my school, have also held a finance coop in the healthcare field that was a total of 350 hours.

Just wondering what school would be good.

Thanks!
 
Scumbag_Steve said:
Knew this was coming. I would say I'm excited for Game 7 but I haven't watched a minute of this series and won't watch a minute of Game 7 for studying reasons 🙁
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Man I'm gonna need to get ready to give up sports once d school starts up, won't I? 🙁
 
Undergrad: Health Science
Residence: AZ
GPA: 3.5 cGPA, 3.4 sGPA, 3.4 BCP
DAT: 19 AA, 19 TS, 24 PA, 20 RC, 18 BIO, 20 OC, 19 GC, 19 QR
Shadowing: 100 hours of shadowing
Volunteering: 800ish hours of medical, church related volunteering
Leadership: Leadership positions in the Pre Dental society
ECs: Attended dental simulation at Midwestern
Work: CNA for 1 year, medical assistant for 6 months, currently an assistant for an endodontist
Research: None
Hand skills: Landscaping, dental assisting, dental waxing course taken in undergrad
LORs: 2 science (average to strongish), one dentist (strong)
*Will be applying as early as one can*
 
age (if you are comfortable, yes this matters to some schools): 21
overall gpa: 3.63
science gpa : 3.63
bio-chem-physics gpa: ~3.6
undergrad attended (if you are comfortable sharing) NYU
DAT score (include AA and all sections) 23 AA/ 20 PAT/ 23 TS/ 20 Bio/ 25 OC/ 25 GC/ 22 QR/ 21 RC
extracirriculars- plenty of research experience, volunteer tutor for inner city students, predent club,
shadowing hours (who did you shadow)- around 100 hours currently, will get more, shadowed several general dentists
letters of rec (how many, how strong, from who)- committee letter
when you plan on submitting AADSAS application- sometime in june
professional goals- as of right now, general dentist
state of residence- NJ
misc info you think is important- Asian American, upward trend in grades
Do I have any chance of getting into Columbia? It is my dream school.
 
woobb said:
Thank you so much for doing this to help everyone out.

age: 22
overall gpa: 3.83
science gpa: It should be about similar to my BCP gpa
bio-chem-physics gpa: 3.78
undergrad attended: UCLA
DAT score: 24AA/25TS/23PAT/29Ochem/25Gchem/24Bio/23RC/21QR
extracurriculars:
  • Dragon boat rowing
  • Tutor
  • Translator
  • Worked as an assistant at a freight forwarding company
  • Research (currently in an oral microbiology lab, previously in a psychology of addictions lab) but no publications
  • Organized a retreat for young scholarship students for a dental organization that does medical missions
  • Volunteered at a local environmental center
shadowing hours: 150 general dentist
letters of rec: 3 science professors - medium, 1 dentist - strong
when you plan on submitting AADSAS application: June 5
professional goals: Currently I would like to aim for general dentistry because of the wide array of procedures that can be done, but I would like to shadow in the future in case I change my mind about specializing. My goal is to use my dentistry knowledge in the future to spread oral healthcare knowledge to those who do not have access to such care.
state of residence: International student
schools I am considering:
  • UoP
  • BU
  • Tufts
  • Maryland
  • NYU
  • SUNY Buffalo
  • Columbia
  • UPenn
  • UCLA (?)
  • UCSF (?)
I was wondering if I should add any other schools that are friendly to international students? Or should I be taking out some schools that are currently on my list that are not as friendly? Thank you so much in advance!
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Great stats and yes add schools that are international friendly and keep schools that arent as international friendly because your stats are very high
 
jg4318 said:
age (if you are comfortable, yes this matters to some schools): 21
overall gpa: 3.63
science gpa : 3.63
bio-chem-physics gpa: ~3.6
undergrad attended (if you are comfortable sharing) NYU
DAT score (include AA and all sections) 23 AA/ 20 PAT/ 23 TS/ 20 Bio/ 25 OC/ 25 GC/ 22 QR/ 21 RC
extracirriculars- plenty of research experience, volunteer tutor for inner city students, predent club,
shadowing hours (who did you shadow)- around 100 hours currently, will get more, shadowed several general dentists
letters of rec (how many, how strong, from who)- committee letter
when you plan on submitting AADSAS application- sometime in june
professional goals- as of right now, general dentist
state of residence- NJ
misc info you think is important- Asian American, upward trend in grades
Do I have any chance of getting into Columbia? It is my dream school.
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Yes very good shot of interview from columbia but you should show intent or they might think you want to go to nyu dental or rutgers dental
 
smurfeyD said:
Undergrad: Health Science
Residence: AZ
GPA: 3.5 cGPA, 3.4 sGPA, 3.4 BCP
DAT: 19 AA, 19 TS, 24 PA, 20 RC, 18 BIO, 20 OC, 19 GC, 19 QR
Shadowing: 100 hours of shadowing
Volunteering: 800ish hours of medical, church related volunteering
Leadership: Leadership positions in the Pre Dental society
ECs: Attended dental simulation at Midwestern
Work: CNA for 1 year, medical assistant for 6 months, currently an assistant for an endodontist
Research: None
Hand skills: Landscaping, dental assisting, dental waxing course taken in undergrad
LORs: 2 science (average to strongish), one dentist (strong)
*Will be applying as early as one can*
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You are on borderline. What schools are yoy applying to?
 
predent2151 said:
21
4.0
4,0
4.0
University of North Carolina at Charlotte (known as being the most challenging in-state chemistry department in NC)
AA 22 TS 23 PAT 19 RC 22 BIO 22 GC 22 OC 27 QR 18
approx 40 hours directly dental related volunteering, approx 400 non-dental related experiences, hold leadership position at schools pre dental club, apart of the university honors program
200, oral surgeon, 3 general dentists, orthodontist
5 letters included in my committee letter and 1 general dentist letter. Letters from professors that will be put in my committee letter will be organic II professor, Animal Physiology professor, Histology professor, public health professor, and econometrics professor
submit middle of June
Oral/Maxillofacial Surgeon in NC, considering academia as well
NC
worked full time job in the summer and part time job throughout school to help put myself through school, kind of made volunteering tough, have held a couple of positions tutoring at my school, have also held a finance coop in the healthcare field that was a total of 350 hours.

Just wondering what school would be good.

Thanks!
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If you want to do omfs, apply to uconn columbia penn stonybrook on top of unc some private schools and like 1-2 oos stare schools

Good stats though youll get in somewhere
 
dentite24 said:
Personal info: 21, white male, 1st gen college student
Undergrad: Bio major, chem minor, attended state school in Ohio
Residence: Appalachian Ohio
GPA: 4.00/4.00 (elementary, high school, undergrad)
DAT: 21 AA, 20 TS, 20 PA, 18 RC, 18 BIO, 25 OC, 22 GC, 20 QR
Shadowing: 120 hours spread out (5 offices, 10 dentists)
Volunteering: 120 hours spread out (recently strictly volunteering at mental health hospital every other week)
Leadership: none
ECs: Pre-dental club for 2 years, running club, scholar member, intramural bball
Work: golf course, tutor (during semester and summer), gen chem review session leader (taught like a pass/fail recitation/review class), research
Research: Half of a summer at my school's med school in the diabetes institute, co-author of a methods paper
Hand skills: good at video games, great hand-eye coordination... don't really do many things with my hands besides that
LORs: 2 science (average to strongish), one adviser (average)
Professional goal: practice as a general dentist, provide care in an area in the Midwest similar to a place where I grew up (a place where there is a need for care due to lack of dentists). I plan on hopefully doing a GPR to expand my qualifications. I want to be able to do a wide variety of procedures to provide my patients with the best possible care and treatment. Potentially starting a practice with my brother (a recent grad (3rd in class) at OSU, and attendee of a very nice GPR program).
Applying to: Ohio State, Pittsburgh, Iowa, Marquette
*Will be applying as early as one can*
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Add 4 more schools to list. Your number 1 option is your in state school. Good stats youll get in somewhere
 
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