Coney Island IM vs Nassau (NUMC) IM

[EastCoastDOHELP]

Hi I'm a 4th year DO with auditions at both of these places. Not a lot of recent threads about these places so I just want to see what you guys think? (If I should even show up to the audition because I heard it could be pretty bad, both audition dates after november so I can't use them for letters)

Thank you

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[gutonc]

Hi I'm a 4th year DO with auditions at both of these places. Not a lot of recent threads about these places so I just want to see what you guys think? (If I should even show up to the audition because I heard it could be pretty bad, both audition dates after november so I can't use them for letters)

Thank you

If you send them an EKG showing that you're alive, that, and your degree, will get you ranked highly at either of those places. Not sure why you'd apply unless your app is atrocious though. Unless you need the credits, don't bother with rotating at either one.

 

[Prehealth1011]

If you send them an EKG showing that you're alive, that, and your degree, will get you ranked highly at either of those places. Not sure why you'd apply unless your app is atrocious though. Unless you need the credits, don't bother with rotating at either one.

They both have Cardio and GI fellowships though. I thought that would make them desirable and competitive?

 

[gutonc]

They both have Cardio and GI fellowships though. I thought that would make them desirable and competitive?

For non-US IMGs with borderline apps? Sure.

 

[mudderMD]

not being an IMG you could likely shoot higher

 

[yakattack16]

No reason to audition for IM, let alone at these places. If you want to go there, which I highly suggest you don't, you'll match there.

 

[EastCoastDOHELP]

No reason to audition for IM, let alone at these places. If you want to go there, which I highly suggest you don't, you'll match there.

Thanks for the advice. Why do you say no reason to audition for IM at all?

 

[DrMetal]

Thanks for the advice. Why do you say no reason to audition for IM at all?

I would definitely try to audition at any program that you're serious about (yes, I know COVID makes that harder....but still, 1 or 2 audition rotations, especially if local, might be doable).

They're not just interviewing you. You're scoping them out as well, especially if it's a program with less notoriety and deemed non-competitive. You want to make sure you're not walking into a total sht show.

 

[wendalltwolf]

Just out of curiosity because I rotated at NUMC many years ago, but is it still FMG-heavy where residents do most blood draws and push stretchers for CT scans?

 

[DrMetal]

where residents do most blood draws and push stretchers for CT scans?

....and that would be my definition of a sht show. Even you if you go visit for just a week, would be good to just shadow some of the interns/residents, see what's doing.

 

[rokshana]

Just out of curiosity because I rotated at NUMC many years ago, but is it still FMG-heavy where residents do most blood draws and push stretchers for CT scans?

Isn’t that most NYC programs?

 

[MD46]

mo

Isn’t that most NYC programs?

most I interviewed at like St Barnabas(nj) , Brooklyn hospital, Metropolitan, Bronx Lebanon and Harlem hospital

 

[InternistDO]

Isn’t that most NYC programs?

The less well known, IMG heavy ones yeah. But it's gotten a lot better recently--I definitely did some blood draws and pushed patients to rads as a med student in NYC (and I wasn't rotating at a well funded private hospital like NYP Cornell or NYU Langone) but it was a pretty uncommon occurrence and the residents did it less than I did.

But yeah, the ones mentioned above still do that. Downstate has gotten better but they still have some of that too.

 

[mlexi83]

How did you get auditions at these hospitals?

 

[Splenda88]

Just out of curiosity because I rotated at NUMC many years ago, but is it still FMG-heavy where residents do most blood draws and push stretchers for CT scans?

That sounds awful...

 

[collegestud2013]

Hi I'm a 4th year DO with auditions at both of these places. Not a lot of recent threads about these places so I just want to see what you guys think? (If I should even show up to the audition because I heard it could be pretty bad, both audition dates after november so I can't use them for letters)

Thank you

Avoid at all costs. Both are nearly all filled with IMGs and are at poorly funded safety net hospitals, so the residents are stuck doing an insane amount of scut and both programs probably violate a tremendous amount of ACMGE rules. While this isn't unique for NYC programs, it's worse at these programs. The only NYC IM programs that may be worth the hassle to go through are the few big name ones (eg Columbia, Cornell, NYU).

 

[Splenda88]

Avoid at all costs. Both are nearly all filled with IMGs and are at poorly funded safety net hospitals, so the residents are stuck doing an insane amount of scut and both programs probably violate a tremendous amount of ACMGE rules. While this isn't unique for NYC programs, it's worse at these programs. The only NYC IM programs that may be worth the hassle to go through are the few big name ones (eg Columbia, Cornell, NYU).

I interviewed at Downstate and I could feel that residents weren't forthcoming about some of these things. Given that the kind of BS IM residents have to deal with, adding a bunch of scut work to that can crush someone's soul...

 

[tantacles]

Avoid at all costs. Both are nearly all filled with IMGs and are at poorly funded safety net hospitals, so the residents are stuck doing an insane amount of scut and both programs probably violate a tremendous amount of ACMGE rules. While this isn't unique for NYC programs, it's worse at these programs. The only NYC IM programs that may be worth the hassle to go through are the few big name ones (eg Columbia, Cornell, NYU).

Yeah, this is just a bit inflammatory. There are definitely a ton of worthwhile programs in NYC that provide great training and aren't Columbia, Cornell, or NYU. Ever heard of Montefiore, for starters?