Is there a place to find a list of reviews for specific auditions in ortho?
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I did 6 auditions. Most do 3-5.
In your experience, did you feel like the previous AOA programs favored COMLEX over STEP?
Yes
As a third-year, you are not expected to know much other than anatomy and how to read an X-ray. We know that you get literally zero ortho in medical school, but you should start reading up on ortho topics.
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You're not alone at all. Our apps are very similar and I feel this same way. I'm fighting the feeling that I need to send out some applications to another specialty just in case ortho doesn't work out
Hey @TheBoneDoctah
Totally agree. Not one program cared about my course grades.
In my experience studying for each COMAT was good prep for Step 2/Level 2. I took a 2 week dedicated and did very well on boards
how can you tell which programs limit rotators? @TheBoneDoctah
Word of mouth and calling programs.
Whats the best way to determine where to do away rotations? I.e. how do we know where we might be competitive at given that step 1 is P/F. What would be your advice for this as I'd like to audition at programs that I would be competitive at matching with. For reference I attend a mid-low tier MD school.
You're fine.
Do you think my research compensates for lower board scores? I really wanted to pursue some research track programs but am unsure if Id even be competitive. Thanks for your thoughts and time doc!
I don’t think research makes up for it but your board scores aren’t that low.
The legend! Thank you for your response, I'm feeling not so hopeless after hearing that.
Focus on DO programs and crush your auditions..
Not always about boards, it’s more about connections. I’ve spoken with several DO’s in MD ortho residencies and every single one of them had a connection to the program in one way or another. With that said most of them had really high board scores, but there were a couple with average or even below average scores but they made up for their board scores by killing their away rotations at those MD programs.
Thats fair. I guess I've always read that if you wanted to match at an MD residency for ortho, you needed to be top of the top in terms of boards and research since it seems like MD programs care about research more than the community DO programs. I would be too afraid to waste one of my 5 auditions at a place I have a low likelihood of matching anyway.
I have seen more and more DO's matching traditionally ACGME ortho residencies tho but agree that research and scores are key for that.
How many? Again, most the DOs that match MD either A. Have something that links them to that program like doing years of research there or B. Habe special in at that program. It's not worth the squeeze. What I mean is, i would not apply only MD because there is a 99% chance you will NOT match. Sure, apply to all the DO programs and then however many MDs you want, but your eye should be on the DO programs.
I agree, its just what I have seen from match lists over the past few years.Research, scores and letters are huge in that, but sometimes its just applying and getting 3-4 MD invites and just getting lucky lol, I would do only DO auditions or like 1 MD audition max for a letter. Like you had 3 MD invites, I don't know how you ranked your programs but if you put your MD programs 1-3 you might have gotten lucky lol unless the programs that interviewed you just interviewed you with no real intention of ranking you in which case idk why they are wasting their and your time lol.
I did put them 1-3 and so did the other DOs I know. One DO I know was really liked by the residents and they said they ranked him high on the resident list, however he did not match there. There is for sure DO bias at MD programs in ortho. I felt it 100% on all my interviews. I actually felt uncomfortable on one because I was the only DO there and they were looking at me like an outsider. Have never felt like that before.
Yea idk atleast interviews are being given out so in that sense things are moving in the right direction. The raw number of DO ortho matches at MD programs is also rising it seems like.
Ok. Not gonna argue with you about this.
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I am a 3rd year right now (just started clinicals). When do we apply for these auditions?
