DO Match List Thread 2021

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Deecee2DO said:
Is that NS Michigan State MD or DO
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doesn’t matter lol.

I think MD. They have a new MD ortho residency there.
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Deecee2DO said:
Yes agreed. At least were only 2-3% off-DO has come a long way over the years
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For US MD seniors, it's the lowest it's been in a long time, and some 200 more people didn't match this year than last. Their applicants also increased by 500 with their expansion being what its been.

It was about the same for DOs, and it was a solid decrease and about 160 more DOs didn't match. Despite that more numbers of DOs matched this year compared to last with the ~500 more DO applicants with our own expansion moving at a similar pace.

I honestly don't know what's gonna happen. So far we're seeing residencies meet the expansion for now, but at this rate there's no way it'll last.

calvinhobbes said:
:/ If so, that’s a record low for US MD grads, right? But great news for DO though! — a record high?

calling it: LCME or whoever is gonna advocate and lobby hard to increase residency spots b/c so many unmatched US MD grads
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Not a record high. Its 1.6% lower than last year compared to US MD seniors being 0.9% lower than last year. It honestly just looks like it was a rough year.

RamenNoodles2354 said:
Do those match rates include SOAP?
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Nope, no info out yet for the SOAP.
 
DNC127 said:
doesn’t matter lol.

I think MD. They have a new MD ortho residency there.
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AnatomyGrey12 said:
I’m actually pretty sure that program is a former DO program. Still, NS is a killer match no matter what.
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Deecee2DO said:
NS Anywhere is impressive obviously. Very nice
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Yeah, NS in and of itself is already a killer match no matter where it's at, and it's even more impressive considering this guy is from the inaugural class of a brand new DO school in a pandemic year. Equally impressive are the IR, Ortho, Urology, Derm, DR, Med/Peds, University IM, University psych, University Neurology, University EM, University peds, University OBGYN matches as well from ARCOM. Now I just wanna know what our match rate is.
 
Alright so I know of 6 neurosurgery matches for DO's this year:

Penn St (LECOM)
Mich St Ascension (2) (KCU Joplin/ARCOM)
Riverside UHS (Western)
UT San Antonio (TCOM)
LSU Shreveport (AT Still)

There are truly only two DO-only neurosurgery programs anymore (RUHS and PCOM). And even those two programs at least interviews MDs (only 14 DOs ranked NS this year as their first choice specialty). Everywhere else definitely at least ranks MD/DO.

Here's the preliminary data from NRMP: https://mk0nrmp3oyqui6wqfm.kinstacd...ds/2021/03/Advance-Data-Tables-2021_Final.pdf

Regardless, congrats everyone! Hell of a job getting through this wherever you end up given the bats*** insanity of the pandemic.
 
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astix3 said:
Anyone heard about matches from ATSU-KCOM?
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shadynasty said:
Alright so I know of 6 neurosurgery matches for DO's this year:

Penn St (LECOM)
Mich St Ascension (2) (KCU Joplin/ARCOM)
Riverside UHS (Western)
UT San Antonio (TCOM)
One is TBD - I'd guess that's PCOM but not sure yet

There are truly only two DO-only neurosurgery programs anymore (RUHS and PCOM). Everywhere else ranks MD/DO.

Here's the preliminary data from NRMP: https://mk0nrmp3oyqui6wqfm.kinstacd...ds/2021/03/Advance-Data-Tables-2021_Final.pdf

Congrats everyone!
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Rumored KCOM NSG match as well. Not sure where.
 
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hot take, 10 best DO matches of all time since we have no match lists. Yes I have been on here forever. Don’t shame me.

1. University of Michigan CT surgery this year
2. Mayo Orthopaedics 4 years ago
3. Mayo Integrated Facial Plastics 5 years ago
4. Penn ENT last year
5. Mayo NSG 3 years ago?
6. Mayo Derm a few years back
7. Cleveland Clinic plastics last year?
8. NYU ortho this year
9. Penn plastics 3-4 years ago
10. IR at Utah
 
DNC127 said:
hot take, 10 best DO matches of all time since we have no match lists. Yes I have been on here forever. Don’t shame me.

1. University of Michigan CT surgery this year
2. Mayo Orthopaedics 4 years ago
3. Mayo Integrated Facial Plastics 5 years ago
4. Penn ENT last year
5. Mayo NSG 3 years ago?
6. Mayo Derm a few years back
7. Cleveland Clinic plastics last year?
8. NYU ortho this year
9. Penn plastics 3-4 years ago
10. IR at Utah
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Hot af. Honestly though how does this **** happen? I want to know their secret. Im still waiting for a DO IM match at the big four but im not getting my hopes up lmao
 
How does KCU-KC do this year? Does anyone know the match and SOAP rates?
 
Deecee2DO said:
Hot af. Honestly though how does this **** happen? I want to know their secret. Im still waiting for a DO IM match at the big four but im not getting my hopes up lmao
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It won’t happen for a long time. Not only because their matches blow the best DOs out of the water, but also because the perception is that if they match a DO it’s because they couldn’t attract those elite MD candidates. They also care a lot about LORs from hospitals they consider equal status. Clinical prestige in medical school is a big deal. Zero DO schools have good training in their eyes, few DOs go get those LORs, and few DOs have the research and scores to compete on paper to begin with. These are the schools that can interview 200 people for 40 spots because they know they’ll be top 3 on everyone’s list.

Source: I have spoken directly with a residency selection director at a big 4 hospital.
 
Internist_Sandman said:
It won’t happen for a long time. Not only because their matches blow the best DOs out of the water, but also because the perception is that if they match a DO it’s because they couldn’t attract those elite MD candidates. They also care a lot about LORs from hospitals they consider equal status. Clinical prestige in medical school is a big deal. Zero DO schools have good training in their eyes, few DOs go get those LORs, and few DOs have the research and scores to compete on paper to begin with. These are the schools that can interview 200 people for 40 spots because they know they’ll be top 3 on everyone’s list.

Source: I have spoken directly with a residency selection director at a big 4 hospital.
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Thank you for this answer. So the best shot a DO has with all else literally perfect (app wise/interview wise) would be to get letters from academic faculty from top tier IM places which would require an insane amount of luck to land an audition at one since landing auditions is essentially luck
 
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Deecee2DO said:
Thank you for this answer. So the best shot a DO has with all else literally perfect (app wise/interview wise) would be to get letters from academic faculty from top tier IM places which would require an insane amount of luck to land an audition at one since landing auditions is essentially luck
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That's what it sounds like. MDs with near perfect apps are trying to match there, so even if you magically get a DO who has an even better app, being a bit better won't offset the prestige issue. But, with more DOs every year, that could change in the future, we'll have to see
 
OutOfLuckAsACanuck said:
That's what it sounds like. MDs with near perfect apps are trying to match there, so even if you magically get a DO who has an even better app, being a bit better won't offset the prestige issue. But, with more DOs every year, that could change in the future, we'll have to see
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Maybe that’s COCA’s master plan. Open up so many DO schools that everyone’s pcp is a DO and no one will know what MD is in a few generations.
 
hohxil_fr said:
How does KCU-KC do this year? Does anyone know the match and SOAP rates?
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They rarely, like other schools, report the pre-SOAP true match rate, but generally the placement rate is 99%+. They also report KCU KC and Joplin together as one class. Their matches are found here: I know of several people who decided not to report their match to the school for publicizing, so its hard to know how many of the "confidential" students are non-matches.

The three integrated IRs, 1 ENT, 1 ortho, and 1 derm are the most high profile KC-specific matches. Joplin had the neurosurgery, vasc, ophtho, and uro matches.
 
shifty_ut89 said:
It will be a goal of mine once I've graduated to convince young pre-meds to not bother with RVU-Utah. I matched and I'm happy with the program I matched to but I will become a physician DESPITE my school, not because of it.
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Do you have their match list? Really curious and congrats on matching!
 
shadynasty said:
They rarely, like other schools, report the pre-SOAP true match rate, but generally the placement rate is 99%+. They also report KCU KC and Joplin together as one class. Their matches are found here: I know of several people who decided not to report their match to the school for publicizing, so its hard to know how many of the "confidential" students are non-matches.

The three integrated IRs, 1 ENT, 1 ortho, and 1 derm are the most high profile KC-specific matches. Joplin had the neurosurgery, vasc, ophtho, and uro matches.
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Im glad to see that KCU have 3 people matched at UCSF Fresno. That's awesome.
 
shadynasty said:
They rarely, like other schools, report the pre-SOAP true match rate, but generally the placement rate is 99%+. They also report KCU KC and Joplin together as one class. Their matches are found here: I know of several people who decided not to report their match to the school for publicizing, so its hard to know how many of the "confidential" students are non-matches.

The three integrated IRs, 1 ENT, 1 ortho, and 1 derm are the most high profile KC-specific matches. Joplin had the neurosurgery, vasc, ophtho, and uro matches.
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Thank you for answering this! Joplin's result seems to be impressive as its first class.
 
Nontraddddds said:
Do you have their match list? Really curious and congrats on matching!
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I'll try to put something together but nobody at the school has yet bothered to get a list going. We have some rads, at least 1 derm, some good general surgery matches, some gas, a couple psych, and then the usual.

Edit: Just remembered we had a pathology match at the University of Utah. Dude's crazy motivated and smart.
 
shadynasty said:
They rarely, like other schools, report the pre-SOAP true match rate, but generally the placement rate is 99%+. They also report KCU KC and Joplin together as one class. Their matches are found here: I know of several people who decided not to report their match to the school for publicizing, so its hard to know how many of the "confidential" students are non-matches.

The three integrated IRs, 1 ENT, 1 ortho, and 1 derm are the most high profile KC-specific matches. Joplin had the neurosurgery, vasc, ophtho, and uro matches.
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I thought only 3 DOs matched integrated IRs this year? one from ARCOM and two from KCU?
 
Nontraddddds said:
Do you have their match list? Really curious and congrats on matching!
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I don't mean to diminish anyone at my school's matches by saying "the usual" because we had a lot of students get their 1st choices but I know what readers on this thread are looking for so I know which details I should share here and which can be left out (cause y'all are gonna skip over them when you read through anyway 🤣 )
 
KCU had 3 IR,
RamenNoodles2354 said:
I thought only 3 DOs matched integrated IRs this year? one from ARCOM and two from KCU?
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there were 15 DO IR matches. Kcu had 3. You need to look at the PGY-2 position on NRMP data to get full match number for specialties like Anesthesia, derm, Rads, IR, PMR etc since most require a Prelim year
 
Dr.Bruh said:
KCU had 3 IR,

there were 15 DO IR matches. Kcu had 3. You need to look at the PGY-2 position on NRMP data to get full match number for specialties like Anesthesia, derm, Rads, IR, PMR etc since most require a Prelim year
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Can someone explain to me how that works? Do they just take a year off? I'm a first year.
 
Prelim list for ACOM. Still missing half the class:

Anesthesiology
Baylor - Houston, TX
Mayo Clinic - Rochester, MN
Univ. of Kentucky - Lexington, KY
Univ. of Florida - Jacksonville, FL
Ochsner Clinic - New Orleans, LA
UAMS - Little Rock, AR

Diagnostic Radiology
LSU - New Orleans, LA

Emergency Medicine
FSU - Sarasota, FL
Henry Ford Allegiance - Jackson, MI
Kendall Regional - Miami, FL
Naval Medical Center - Portsmouth, VA
OakHill Hospital - Brooksville, FL
Orange Park Medical Center - Orange Park, FL
Rutgers Community Health - Toms River, NJ x2
Texas A&M - Corpus Christi, TX
Univ. of Minnesota - Minneapolis, MN
Univ. of Mississippi - Jackson, MS
USF - Brandon, FL x2

Family Medicine
Baptist Health Outreach - Montgomery, AL
Baylor Scott & White - Round Rock, TX
Columbia - New York, NY
Conway Medical Center - Conway, SC
OakHill Hospital - Brooksville, FL
Sea Mar - Marysville, WA
St. Louis Univ. - St. Louis, MO
Univ. of Wisconsin - Madison, WI
Waco Family Medicine - Waco, TX
Wright Center for GME - Auburn, WA

General Surgery
Carle Foundation - Urbana-Champaign, IL
Sinai - Baltimore, MD
Zucker Northwell - Queens, NY

Internal Medicine
Beaumont - Royal Oak, MI x2
Brookwood Baptist - Birmingham, AL x2
Cleveland Clinic - Cleveland, OH
EAMC - Auburn, AL
EVMS - Norfolk, VA
Loyola Univ. Medical Center - Chicago, IL
LSU - Lafayette, LA
Mercy Health - Muskegon, MI
MSU - Lansing, Michigan x2
Naval Medical Center - Portsmouth, VA x2
Parkview Medical Center — Pueblo, CO
Southeast Health - Dothan, AL
Summa Health - Akron, OH
Univ. of Buffalo - Buffalo, NY
Univ. of Florida - Gainsville, FL
Univ. of Florida - Jacksonville, FL
Univ. of Kentucky - Bowling Green, KY
Univ. of Miami - Jackson, FL
Univ. of Mississippi - Oxford, MS
Univ. of South Alabama - Mobile, AL
Univ. of Texas San Antonio - San Antonio, TX
UPMC Mercy- Pittsburgh, PA
USF - Tampa, FL
Yale/Greenwich - Greenwich, CT
TAMC - Honolulu, HI
Thomas Hospital - Fairhope, AL

Internal Medicine/Emergency Medicine
Jefferson Northeast - Philadelphia, PA

Internal Medicine/Pediatrics
Univ. of Tennessee - Memphis, TN

Neurology
Baylor - Houston, TX

OB/GYN
Univ. of Michigan Metro- Grand Rapids, MI
Univ. of Tennessee - Chattanooga, TN
Univ. of Tennessee - Memphis, TN
Univ. of Tennessee - Nashville, TN

Orthopedic Surgery
Beaumont Hospital - Farmington Hills, MI
WellSpan York Hospital - York, PA

Pathology
UAB - Birmingham, AL
UAMS - Little Rock, AR

Pediatrics
Joe DiMaggio Children's Hospital - Hollywood, FL
LSU - New Orleans, LA
Medical College of Wisconsin - Milwaukee, WI
Nicklaus Children's - Miami, FL
Southern Illinois Univ. - Springfield, IL
St. Christopher Hospital for Children - Philadelphia, PA
Univ. of Connecticut - Farmington, CT
Univ. of Illinois - Peoria, IL
Univ. of Florida - Orlando, FL
USF - Tampa, FL x2
Washington Univ. in St. Louis - St. Louis, MO

Psychiatry
UNLV - Las Vegas, NV
Tulane Univ. - New Orleans, LA
 
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RamenNoodles2354 said:
Can someone explain to me how that works? Do they just take a year off? I'm a first year.
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Some programs are "advanced" programs meaning they require you to complete a 1 year internship before starting the residency. Most notably these specialties have the largest chunk of programs set up this way: Anesthesiology, Derm, DR, IR, Neurology, PM&R and RO.

In advanced programs you need to match not only the advanced program but also a 1 year prelim. You do the 1 year prelim, then upon successful completion, you move on to your actual residency program. The two programs can be on opposite sides of the country and in entirely unrelated health/academic systems.

Some programs in these specialties are "categorical" which means when you match to that program, they also provide match you with an intern year either at their institution or through an agreement with another program.

In categorical programs you only need to match to one program to do all your training.

With the exception of Anesthesiology and Neurology (these are actually trending towards being majority, 90%+, categorical in the next 5 years), the majority of available positions in the specialties listed above are advanced positions.

For the comment you're referring to, in order to see how many DOs actually matched IR, you'd need to add the PGY-1 matches as well as the PGY-2 (advanced) matches since DO students that matched to advanced IR programs would only be in a prelim PGY-1 program and not accurately reflect the total. 5 matched categorical, 10 matched advanced so 15 total matched IR.

 
BoneWizard said:
Some programs are "advanced" programs meaning they require you to complete a 1 year internship before starting the residency. Most notably these specialties have the largest chunk of programs set up this way: Anesthesiology, Derm, DR, IR, Neurology, PM&R and RO.

In advanced programs you need to match not only the advanced program but also a 1 year prelim. You do the 1 year prelim, then upon successful completion, you move on to your actual residency program. The two programs can be on opposite sides of the country and in entirely unrelated health/academic systems.

Some programs in these specialties are "categorical" which means when you match to that program, they also provide match you with an intern year either at their institution or through an agreement with another program.

In categorical programs you only need to match to one program to do all your training.

With the exception of Anesthesiology and Neurology (these are actually trending towards being majority, 90%+, categorical in the next 5 years), the majority of available positions in the specialties listed above are advanced positions.

For the comment you're referring to, in order to see how many DOs actually matched IR, you'd need to add the PGY-1 matches as well as the PGY-2 (advanced) matches since DO students that matched to advanced IR programs would only be in a prelim PGY-1 program and not accurately reflect the total. 5 matched categorical, 10 matched advanced so 15 total matched IR.

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So they would have to apply for the one year prelim and the PGY-2 at the same time or do they have to finish the prelim first and then apply again?
 
DNC127 said:
hot take, 10 best DO matches of all time since we have no match lists. Yes I have been on here forever. Don’t shame me.

1. University of Michigan CT surgery this year
2. Mayo Orthopaedics 4 years ago
3. Mayo Integrated Facial Plastics 5 years ago
4. Penn ENT last year
5. Mayo NSG 3 years ago?
6. Mayo Derm a few years back
7. Cleveland Clinic plastics last year?
8. NYU ortho this year
9. Penn plastics 3-4 years ago
10. IR at Utah
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Also ortho at Monteifore and NSG at University of Mississippi?
 
FutureDoctor5000 said:
Also ortho at Monteifore and NSG at University of Mississippi?
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Amazing matches? 10000%. Top of all time for DO? probs not. Those 2 are totally badass matches (probs top for 2021 for sure) but probs wouldnt be top of all time which in my opinion constitutes competitive specialty AND top 10-ish academic institution. What school were those?
 
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Deecee2DO said:
Amazing matches? 10000%. Top of all time for DO? probs not. Those 2 are totally badass matches (probs top for 2021 for sure) but probs wouldnt be top of all time which in my opinion constitutes competitive specialty AND top 10-ish academic institution. What school were those?
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They weren’t this year but ortho was PCOM last year and NSG was WCU 2 years ago. But yea I see what you mean.
 
MADD!!! said:
PCOM Philadelphia's match is FIREEE!

1 (the only DO) integrated CT surgery match at UMich

1 IR at MUSC

2x Psychiatry at Einstein-Philly

PMR at UPMC, Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania, and University of Louisville

Family Med at Lancaster General!, Abington, UMASS, Crozer, Jeff NE, Allegheny, Lankenau, Doctors Hospital Ohio

IM at Baylor Houston, GWU, Temple, Lankenau, Lehigh Valley, Christiana, Einstein Philly, Jeff NE, Allegheny, Mount Sinai NW, Loma Linda, St Lukes and more

LOTS of EM

Gen Surg at Lankenau, Christiana, Einstein-Philly, PCOM, Allegheny, Reading, and more

1 ENT at PCOM

Several Ortho matches

Ob/Gyn at Inspira, UPMC Pinnacle, Lehigh Valley

DR at University of Cincinnati, Christiana

Urology at MUSC

3 Ophtho matches: Walter Reed, PCOM, Larkin

Radiation Oncology at Fox Chase
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Just curious... how many FM went to abington? That place is slowly becoming PCOM only
 
Houston Methodist FM always seems to take somebody from Rowan.

Is it a former DO-only program?
 
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