Ga-pcomWhat school did the NYU ortho match come out of ?
Also an Emory IM as well. Someone was asking about IM programs previously on here
Ga-pcomWhat school did the NYU ortho match come out of ?
!!Emory IM . Now that's somethingGa-pcom
Also an Emory IM as well. Someone was asking about IM programs previously on here
They had one last year too lol!!Emory IM . Now that's something
Amazing matches? 10000%. Top of all time for DO? probs not. Those 2 are totally badass matches (probs top for 2021 for sure) but probs wouldnt be top of all time which in my opinion constitutes competitive specialty AND top 10-ish academic institution. What school were those?
KCOM NS match is at LSU-Shreveport. Also had Yale Rads, 2 Derm, 1 ENT, 8 GS, 1 ophtho, 1 ortho.
Didnt know Harborview was UW. UW is top tier i know and yes I agree in the ortho world I could see UW being same league or better than NYUHarborview ortho, 2 DOs now. Those are arguably a better match than NYU ortho. It’s probably the most competitive program out there, both rank and location. Joint disease takes like 12 residents. NYU is very anti DO so it’s an amazing achievement, where as UW is a progressive institution, but I’m speaking strictly from ortho standpoint.
Edit: Joint disease takes 14 ortho residents a year. Probably the largest program in the country.
Didnt know Harborview was UW. UW is top tier i know and yes I agree in the ortho world I could see UW being same league or better than NYU
Ortho match this year was piping hot. Heck ya!Also add a DO for Wake Forest Orthopedics. Their physician scientist program (6-7 year). From PCOM GA
I feel KCU has the most consistent ortho matched (not sure about quality). But they’ve got like 10 years of match lists on their website and every year has 3-10 ortho matches every year. Multiple MD ortho matches too.Historically one of the few DO schools that placed well into ortho along with MSUCOM. Would have taken PCOM over NYITCOM if I got in (when I was gunning for ortho sports but like most people coming in - my scores where nowhere near what's needed to get ortho haha), their match lists historically always had ortho placements and a well above average match list in general.
NYITCOM a few years back had no one match ortho despite personally knowing 2-3 who were trying to get it.
PCOM Philadelphia's match is FIREEE!
1 (the only DO) integrated CT surgery match at UMich
1 IR at MUSC
2x Psychiatry at Einstein-Philly
PMR at UPMC, Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania, and University of Louisville
Family Med at Lancaster General!, Abington, UMASS, Crozer, Jeff NE, Allegheny, Lankenau, Doctors Hospital Ohio
IM at Baylor Houston, GWU, Temple, Lankenau, Lehigh Valley, Christiana, Einstein Philly, Jeff NE, Allegheny, Mount Sinai NW, Loma Linda, St Lukes and more
LOTS of EM
Gen Surg at Lankenau, Christiana, Einstein-Philly, PCOM, Allegheny, Reading, and more
1 ENT at PCOM
Several Ortho matches
Ob/Gyn at Inspira, UPMC Pinnacle, Lehigh Valley
DR at University of Cincinnati, Christiana
Urology at MUSC
3 Ophtho matches: Walter Reed, PCOM, Larkin
Radiation Oncology at Fox Chase
Psychology
it's on 3rd pageAnyone has ARCOM match list? Curious what's their matching is like, especially IM?
Do you know if the GS match at Einstein is prelim or categorical? Can’t recall if they’ve ever taken a DO (maybe 1) for a categorical spot
And turns out it wasn’t Ortho but PMR...Holy ****. Are u serious? Like the real NYU?
Mayo-WisconsinMayo Rochester or Mayo Elsewhere?
categorical — and trust me the story is huge behind this because the PD explicitly tells everyone he does not take DO’s. The guy who matched worked there as a nurse and other healthcare personnel for 10 years, and his wife is the head nurse of one of the floors of the hospital.
The point is, if you see the match lists progress each year, more DO's are being integrated into programs that they were historically not able to get into. It's becoming a lot more than just the "one exception." There are many "exceptions," especially this year. Maybe later, DOs matching into these programs will become normal and no longer exceptions, but that's still far away. If you really don't see the significance of celebrating or counting victories when a minority group starts gaining access to institutions that historically rejected them just because of their initials.... With risk of turning this into a political thing I'll just stop here.This is why I don’t get the point of all the hype in the DO match list threads every year. Just because a PD is willing to make a rare individual exception to rank a DO above MDs (on the basis of family connections, past work connections, extraordinarily unique background, etc.), doesn’t mean that a glass ceiling was broken or that attitudes toward DOs are becoming more favorable.
An ex-Broadway actor who attended a DO school matched at Columbia Psych a few years ago. It’s nice that a Columbia PD would consider making rare exceptions for former professional theatre stars, but it’s not an indication that Columbia is now interested in training DOs. I don’t see why DO students should view exceptional situations like this as collective victories.
Totally this. But there are many truly exceptional people in DO schools. An odd paradox given how generic and unexceptional the schools are overall. An exceptional person can certainly outweigh an unexceptional medical school 😉This is why I don’t get the point of all the hype in the DO match list threads every year. Just because a PD is willing to make a rare individual exception to rank a DO above MDs (on the basis of family connections, past work connections, extraordinarily unique background, etc.), doesn’t mean that a glass ceiling was broken or that attitudes toward DOs are becoming more favorable.
An ex-Broadway actor who attended a DO school matched at Columbia Psych a few years ago. It’s nice that a Columbia PD would consider making rare exceptions for former professional theatre stars, but it’s not an indication that Columbia is now interested in training DOs. I don’t see why DO students should view exceptional situations like this as collective victories.
That NYU Langone Ortho match from TouroNY was real haha not PMR. ConfirmedAnd turns out it wasn’t Ortho but PMR...
Mayo-Wisconsin
J/king on the first, but entirely possible. Second one is highly likely.
Mercy or presbyLecom had a match into interventional radiology at UPMC
How is it not an indication? It shows you that as long as you bring something to their program, they’ll take you. And that’s the point, focus on bringing something to their program and don’t get neurotic on being a DO as if it’s a death sentence lol. It’s a medical degree like the MD/MBBS so make the most out of it and see what happens. Idk, maybe you’ll match something crazy like CT surg at UMich, or ortho at UW or something.This is why I don’t get the point of all the hype in the DO match list threads every year. Just because a PD is willing to make a rare individual exception to rank a DO above MDs (on the basis of family connections, past work connections, extraordinarily unique background, etc.), doesn’t mean that a glass ceiling was broken or that attitudes toward DOs are becoming more favorable.
An ex-Broadway actor who attended a DO school matched at Columbia Psych a few years ago. It’s nice that a Columbia PD would consider making rare exceptions for former professional theatre stars, but it’s not an indication that Columbia is now interested in training DOs. I don’t see why DO students should view exceptional situations like this as collective victories.
Is Philly Einstein’s gen surgery program really that impressive? I feel like DO’s match to better university programs every year. They had one match to their IR residency(much more competitive specialty) than gen surgery last year. I see many Ross grads at Philly Einstein’s program so something tells me it isn’t a top program or anything. It’s unfortunate that the PD has such a backwards attitude and is missing out on great Gen surgery PCOM and other DO grads IMHO...categorical — and trust me the story is huge behind this because the PD explicitly tells everyone he does not take DO’s. The guy who matched worked there as a nurse and other healthcare personnel for 10 years, and his wife is the head nurse of one of the floors of the hospital.
From what I’ve heard, the PD thinks IMG’s are still higher than DO’s. And it’s funny because we have a bunch of students who do their entire 3rd year clerkships at Einstein Philly.Is Philly Einstein’s gen surgery program really that impressive? I feel like DO’s match to better university programs every year. They had one match to their IR residency(much more competitive specialty) than gen surgery last year. I see many Ross grads at Philly Einstein’s program so something tells me it isn’t a top program or anything. It’s unfortunate that the PD has such a backwards attitude and is missing out on great Gen surgery PCOM and other DO grads IMHO...
That makes it even more perplexing because it looks like it’s just the gen surgery department that thinks that way, every other specialty from EM to IM to IR and even Urology(former aoa program) has DO’s on the roster. But honestly though, PCOM grads are out there matching at better programs in gen surgery anyway so it’s whatever ahhaFrom what I’ve heard, the PD thinks IMG’s are still higher than DO’s. And it’s funny because we have a bunch of students who do their entire 3rd year clerkships at Einstein Philly.
I think it also goes to show that even just the PD alone isn’t the decision maker (if they are, they might get booted). This person had many big heads in the hospital making calls to the PD to take him in from what I’ve heard. And everyone LOVES that it happened. He deserved it like crazy and he’s been working at that hospital for 10 years prior to medical school.
Truly this^^^^^^. I don't think it's much of a paradox. I would see students every year thinking I'm going to smoke the guys in their class academically and end up in the bottom half of the class. They think just because they are in DO school that there are not elite students there. Well, that's just not true.I believe our top quartile students would have very good success at MD schools.Totally this. But there are many truly exceptional people in DO schools. An odd paradox given how generic and unexceptional the schools are overall. An exceptional person can certainly outweigh an unexceptional medical school 😉
It’s impressive because they are so anti-DO, but other than that no it’s not terribly impressive in and of itself.Is Philly Einstein’s gen surgery program really that impressive? I feel like DO’s match to better university programs every year. They had one match to their IR residency(much more competitive specialty) than gen surgery last year. I see many Ross grads at Philly Einstein’s program so something tells me it isn’t a top program or anything. It’s unfortunate that the PD has such a backwards attitude and is missing out on great Gen surgery PCOM and other DO grads IMHO...
It was from pcom-gaIt was from Touro-NY?? Do you know if it was Harlem or Middletowns campus?
Honestly not Sure. But saw lecom had a couple matches into ENT also.Mercy or presby
Aren’t UIC and Rush better in Chicago? And also U Chicago and northwestern?Also, I heard KCU had multiple internal medicine matches to Loyola University. That’s a great program!
Can’t there be multiple great programs in Chicago? This comment is irrelevant. Loyola is a solid program. Nice matchAren’t UIC and Rush better in Chicago? And also U Chicago and northwestern?
Ohh I am not downplaying their match but DO’s have matched to Loyola IM in the past.Can’t there be multiple great programs in Chicago? This comment is irrelevant. Loyola is a solid program. Nice match
UIC is not better, they’re basically broke. They had an Instagram post asking for donations to feed their residents not too long ago.Aren’t UIC and Rush better in Chicago? And also U Chicago and northwestern?
This is why I don’t get the point of all the hype in the DO match list threads every year. Just because a PD is willing to make a rare individual exception to rank a DO above MDs (on the basis of family connections, past work connections, extraordinarily unique background, etc.), doesn’t mean that a glass ceiling was broken or that attitudes toward DOs are becoming more favorable.
An ex-Broadway actor who attended a DO school matched at Columbia Psych a few years ago. It’s nice that a Columbia PD would consider making rare exceptions for former professional theatre stars, but it’s not an indication that Columbia is now interested in training DOs. I don’t see why DO students should view exceptional situations like this as collective victories.
Can confirm. I want to say it was 2.Also, I heard KCU had multiple internal medicine matches to Loyola University. That’s a great program!
Ahh I didn’t know I just went off the rankings of the medical schoolUIC is not better, they’re basically broke. They had an Instagram post asking for donations to feed their residents not too long ago.
Also, if you actually want good training, you won’t find it at Rush. Program is way to cush and graduates leave unprepared as a result.
Chicago is a great city for medicine which is why it has so many competitive programs, but look at Loyola on a national level. They’re nationally ranked in GI, nephro, cards, Pulm/crit and neurology, as well as highly ranked (meaning top 10% nationally) in 11 other specialties according to US news and World.
I’m pretty sure they’re like the leading transplant center in America or something like that
damn didn't know ortho programs had a PSTP. crazy good.Also add a DO for Wake Forest Orthopedics. Their physician scientist program (6-7 year). From PCOM GA
3 KCU Loyola IM matches (2 KC campus 1 Joplin)Can confirm. I want to say it was 2.
Yeah last year I feel there was a lot of unmatched but I don't know the exact numbers off hand.Personally saw a lot of peopling SOAP this year and last year in certain specialties. Psych apparently got insanely competitive. But all in all, everyone (99%) usually gets at least a pre-lim/transitional year offer.