Is it? I am seeing many DO’s in their EM program:
Yeah it’s a top program. EM is weird tho. Of like the top 20 programs I think like 12+ have DOs. Still a few programs that have never taken one but every year you’ll get multiple DOs match top 20 EM programs.
I heard 1/4 of OBGYN applicants didn't match.
Absolutely. EM in general is very DO friendly and DO saturated like PMR. Example of one that never has is USC LAC but pretty sure its like #1 in the country
Good god
It’s true. A lot of people left finance and law and went into medicine and nursing. And you’re right about those stats, although I’d say 28-32 was often the lower range I saw, for MD schools anyway.
1 DO grad from 2018, and that's all (there may be some from further back). It's certainly uncommon. None currently in the program.
According to NRMP data 225/336 DOs matched so 1/3 didn't. But DO OB match rate has traditionally alway been in the high 60s.
Out of those 336 I wonder If there were some who were using ob as a back up(sounds ridiculous) but who knows lol?
USC LAC actually has 2 DOs in their EM class now!! UCinci, Uwashington, Boston have never taken a DO. But i personally know people in just my class who interviewed at those EM programs.
More like OB was a reach.
Bro you could be accepted to JHU and I still wouldn't care what you say...
Honestly though don't read too much into match lists, you dont know the priorities of the "super stars" in your class, they may have wanted to do family med or peds locally and didn't care about the prestige of their match, its hard to extrapolate anything from match lists. Many people also do not neurotically look up "top programs" for their specialty and think about stuff like we do on here lol.
The Med student I got the graph from said 93% match rate. Here
Literally me^ lmao
We all do it ahahah
Also like you mentioned I personally know 2 other superstar kids in addition to the Jeff Philly IM in the class above me at Rowan and I was waiting for a huge name place for them to match at and they both matched unranked community programs. After chatting with them it was for location and family reasons
Yea I know few like that in the class above here too, decided to take the state MD university IM cause they literally grew up there lol, another kid passed up on multiple university IM places for a community program in California.
Thank you for bringing this data up so more students are aware of it.
Not ideal but "BAD" is much if this is pre-soap data. Pre-soap 8% of USMDs didn't match this year even.
Very solid
91% post soap is the lowest I've ever seen but this year was crazy so who knows...
This article was from Friday (after the SOAP) and says 137 students in the graduating class. So what happened to the other 25?
125 matches/137 students is only a 91% match rate.
Are the other 12 students jobless?
University of Incarnate Word med students celebrate first-ever Match Day
UIW's first medical school class celebrated Match Day on Friday, when students received their residency program assignments.sanantonioreport.org
either scramble into an open spot, delay graduation and apply gain as a senior, or take a gap year doing something clinical from what I understand
As a 4th year UIWSOM student it’s correct. We had 19 students go unmatched Pre-SOAP and 11 remain unmatched post-SOAP. The overwhelming majority of those individuals applied general surgery/anesthesia/ortho/derm with no backup. In addition, they had mediocre stats. Match rate reflects failure to have a plan B in my opinion.
The balls of some people. Blows my mind
Yeah we received the stats broken down by specialty. 5/11 matched anesthesia, 2/16 matched general surgery, 0/2 matched dermatology, and 0/3 matched ortho.
Damn that’s awful for gen surg. Charting outcomes shows it’s definitely doable for DOs If I remember correctly
Is this due to a lack of (good) guidance from a new school or applicants ignoring the advice?
I would have to say mostly the latter. I know people applying ortho/gen surg/derm who either failed or scored well below average on step 1. Encouraged to apply to backup but ignored advice.
Yeah that’s terrible. Overall DO match rate to GS has been fairly stable at around 66% for the last few years, and that percentage goes up quite a bit if you have average stats (like average for a matched applicant).
To be fair I was shocked by some of the individuals who matched prelim surgery. They were superstars for categorical spots on paper so I’m wondering if they aimed too high.
I agree. I lived with the guy who graduated #1 in my class and was scary smart.He went in to Family Med and would call oncologists and fight with them about their choice of chemo for his patients. Another read a book on differential equations while on vacation with us, got an A on the test and placed out of the course while running a busy family practice. He went on to get a masters in bio engineering and worked on the Penn State artificial heart while maintaining his practice. Not every brilliant person wants to sub specialize.
I made a Match thread advising all to have a Plan B ready and understand the SOAP rules before the match! I continue to not understand, with so much at risk, why people play the Match Game so poorly. Do not listen to suggestions from PDs that you will be highly ranked. You are unmatched until you are.My son matched his 4th choice in the fellowship match, all the while enjoying glowing comments from PDs. None were reach programs. Life is full of choices. When it is the rest of your life and your career on the line, make good ones.
Surgery programs also seem to treat applicants from new/unknown schools with caution. Even good applicants from new schools should be ok going to a DO or community MD program.
Not sure about number of interviews but they had step 1/2 >250 with pubs
There was a DO DR match at vandy. Maybe they confused derm and dr idk
Survivorship bias. A chronic issue for some on the DO side. ‘Something was wrong with those people who didn’t match.’
Should have used a bar graph for that data. Other DO schools are so much better at hiding their crud.
And next year will be ‘crazier’ and so on. Can’t keep adding hundreds of medical students every year and not expect to take a hit to placement rate.
Makes me glad I got in when I did
They were talking about lecom.Proof of what?
You do realize that Cooper Medical School of Rowan University is an LCME accredited MD school.
It is totally different than the Rowan University School of Osteopathic Medicine.
Cooper Medical School of Rowan University - Wikipedia
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