Do we really need a separate osteopathic subforum?

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To increase the general activity of the medical student forum, I propose we merge Allopathic and Osteopathic subforums.

There could be an optional Thread topic tag for MD or DO (just like there is a USMLE or COMLEX tag in the Exams subforum).

I understand why there are separate pre-allo and pre-osteo subforums, but there are far fewer med students than pre-meds on these boards. I think we need a little consolidation.



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cbrons said:
To increase the general activity of the medical student forum, I propose we merge Allopathic and Osteopathic subforums.

There could be an optional Thread topic tag for MD or DO (just like there is a USMLE or COMLEX tag in the Exams subforum).

I understand why there are separate pre-allo and pre-osteo subforums, but there are far fewer med students than pre-meds on these boards. I think we need a little consolidation.



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That subforum is more holistic.
 
cbrons said:
To increase the general activity of the medical student forum, I propose we merge Allopathic and Osteopathic subforums.

There could be an optional Thread topic tag for MD or DO (just like there is a USMLE or COMLEX tag in the Exams subforum).

I understand why there are separate pre-allo and pre-osteo subforums, but there are far fewer med students than pre-meds on these boards. I think we need a little consolidation.



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Traffic is not what's keeping activity low on this sub-forum, it's the toxicity.

A temporary ban on NP/PA threads would have more utility
 
I wish there could just be one "NP/PA taking all our jerbs" sticky at the top, and everyone could just fill that with 500 pages of bickering.

I've briefly browsed the osteopathic forums here and there (been a while FWIW), and it seems like a lot more school specific stuff and bitching about OMM (which wouldn't really have a role in the allopathic forum).

What you could do is - have a general medical student forum (similar to the surgical residency forums, for example), with a separate sub-forum about osteopathic (since they do everything allopaths do anyways) specific issues. Then all the school specific threads could be moved into the school specific thread sub-forum that's within the allopathic part.
 
evilbooyaa said:
I wish there could just be one "NP/PA taking all our jerbs" sticky at the top, and everyone could just fill that with 500 pages of bickering.

I've briefly browsed the osteopathic forums here and there (been a while FWIW), and it seems like a lot more school specific stuff and bitching about OMM (which wouldn't really have a role in the allopathic forum).

What you could do is - have a general medical student forum (similar to the surgical residency forums, for example), with a separate sub-forum about osteopathic (since they do everything allopaths do anyways) specific issues. Then all the school specific threads could be moved into the school specific thread sub-forum that's within the allopathic part.
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I like the bottom idea. The only time I even go in the osteopathic forums is when I'm in my school specific thread or have questions about the merger. Maybe if I've got a question about other schools, but I don't really see a reason why there needs to be a whole osteopathic sub-forum.
 
libertyyne said:
To safeguard the super secret palm five point heart exploding technique?
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No, that technique is no longer reimbursed ... thanks Obamacare.

If there is enough interest, I could combine the forums and create an osteopathic subforum.

Also, posting MD vs X threads needs to quit. This has been discussed by medical students ad nauseum for the past 30+ years. Once in practice, you'll find there are real problems to deal with ... concerns about titles and training are distractions.
 
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Lee said:
No, that technique is no longer reimbursed ... thanks Obamacare.

If there is enough interest, I could combine the forums and create an osteopathic subforum.

Also, posting MD vs X threads needs to quit. This has been discussed by medical students ad nauseum for the past 30+ years. Once in you get into practice, you'll find there are real problems to deal with ... concerns about titles and training are distractions.
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I think its for the best.
 
Interesting how its usually the osteopaths that come into the allopathic forum and not vice versa.
 
RooibosTea said:
Interesting how its usually the osteopaths that come into the allopathic forum and not vice versa.
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Thats usually because there is more traffice going on the allopathic forum and because MD students really have no need to hash out a discussion about osteopathic related topics regarding OMM, or the merger, or aspirations/chances about doing ENT or derm or I6 CT surgery as a DO. Its probably more entertaining for an MD student to take a looksie haha.


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I see MD students and residents posting in there all the time. The wise SouthernSurgeon is quite good at bluntly stating the facts as they are there, for example.



RooibosTea said:
Interesting how its usually the osteopaths that come into the allopathic forum and not vice versa.
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The reason why there's less traffic in osteo is because "allopathic" has become "general medical student issues" and osteopathic has become "issues specific to osteopathic students."

There's nothing special about the Allo forum. I would actually say there's no need for an "allopathic" forum, it should just be the "general medical student" forum. The issues in allo pretty much affect all medical students. There are very few issues that affect MD students that don't also affect DOs.
 
libertyyne said:
To be fair I venture there sometimes to see what they are plotting.
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Don't bother. In OMM the first thing we learn is the osteopathic code. What, you thought that was a declaration of principles? Nah uh. It's an impressively complicated cipher intended to keep our secrets safe from the MDs. You may THINK we're talking about the merger, residency chances, and unchecked school expansion, but any first-semester OMS1 knows better.
 
Peach Newport said:
Don't bother. In OMM the first thing we learn is the osteopathic code. What, you thought that was a declaration of principles? Nah uh. It's an impressively complicated cipher intended to keep our secrets safe from the MDs. You may THINK we're talking about the merger, residency chances, and unchecked school expansion, but any first-semester OMS1 knows better.
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Ooo, is there an AT Stills decoder ring ?
 
They are two distinct and separate populations of medical students with their own unique challenges and concerns. Why would you combine them? Everyone can browse all the forums they please anyway. And I have no interest in reading about DO-specific concerns.
 
libertyyne said:
Ooo, is there an AT Stills decoder ring ?
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Well yeah, but it's sitting in a vault under KCOM and only the AOA higher-ups are allowed to access it (though I've heard it's mostly for ceremonial purposes now and the occasional seance). Us plebs have had to use a secret handshake since 1972 or so.
 
Lee said:
No, that technique is no longer reimbursed ... thanks Obamacare.

If there is enough interest, I could combine the forums and create an osteopathic sub.
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Sounds great.
 
Do the Osteopathic med students want this merger? I didn't see a similar thread on the Osteo side.
 
Here is a bunch of threads that make no sense as an MD student on the DO page right now.
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/dos-with-30-mcats.1236079/
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/failed-comlex-2-ce-seeking-advice.1222744/
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/do-dos-take-pride-in-their-identity-or-not.1149012/
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/aspiring-do-orthopedic-students.1233630/
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/subthread-for-omm-nmm-specialty.1234435/
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/comlex-pe-worried.1224687/
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/subthread-for-omm-nmm-specialty.1234435/
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/omm-component-of-the-comlex.1234449/
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/lecom-pbl-vs-dsp-vs-ldp.1233711/
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/th...ept-transfer-students-after-comlex-1.1235136/
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/do-neurosurgery-chances.1231751/
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/do-students-doing-away-rotations-at-acgme-programs.1232599/
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/when-to-take-comlex-level-ii.143401/
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/th...t-makes-osteopathic-schools-holistic.1229025/


I dont think many of those threads have any bearing on an MD student or general Medical Student, those are very specific DO issues.
 
libertyyne said:
Here is a bunch of threads that make no sense as an MD student on the DO page right now.
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/dos-with-30-mcats.1236079/
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/failed-comlex-2-ce-seeking-advice.1222744/
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/do-dos-take-pride-in-their-identity-or-not.1149012/
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/aspiring-do-orthopedic-students.1233630/
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/subthread-for-omm-nmm-specialty.1234435/
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/comlex-pe-worried.1224687/
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/subthread-for-omm-nmm-specialty.1234435/
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/omm-component-of-the-comlex.1234449/
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/lecom-pbl-vs-dsp-vs-ldp.1233711/
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/th...ept-transfer-students-after-comlex-1.1235136/
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/do-neurosurgery-chances.1231751/
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/do-students-doing-away-rotations-at-acgme-programs.1232599/
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/when-to-take-comlex-level-ii.143401/
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/th...t-makes-osteopathic-schools-holistic.1229025/


I dont think many of those threads have any bearing on an MD student or general Medical Student, those are very specific DO issues.
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Thats what a subforum would be for

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libertyyne said:
Here is a bunch of threads that make no sense as an MD student on the DO page right now.
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/dos-with-30-mcats.1236079/
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/failed-comlex-2-ce-seeking-advice.1222744/
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/do-dos-take-pride-in-their-identity-or-not.1149012/
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/aspiring-do-orthopedic-students.1233630/
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/subthread-for-omm-nmm-specialty.1234435/
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/comlex-pe-worried.1224687/
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/subthread-for-omm-nmm-specialty.1234435/
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/omm-component-of-the-comlex.1234449/
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/lecom-pbl-vs-dsp-vs-ldp.1233711/
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/th...ept-transfer-students-after-comlex-1.1235136/
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/do-neurosurgery-chances.1231751/
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/do-students-doing-away-rotations-at-acgme-programs.1232599/
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/when-to-take-comlex-level-ii.143401/
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/th...t-makes-osteopathic-schools-holistic.1229025/


I dont think many of those threads have any bearing on an MD student or general Medical Student, those are very specific DO issues.
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Playing devil's advocate, only a few of those threads would even "need" to go in an osteopathic sub-forum. Most of the ones you listed would be more at home in one of the other sub-forums like the COMLEX specific one, clinical rotations sub-forums, or residency forums.

Personally, as a DO student, I really don't care if they're merged or not. I'll still end up browsing the same threads anyway. I do think most of what I see on either forum is relevant to both DO and MD students though.
 
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Are a majority of the proponents DO students in this thread?
 
Stagg737 said:
Playing devil's advocate, only a few of those threads would even "need" to go in an osteopathic sub-forum. Most of the ones you listed would be more at home in one of the other sub-forums like the COMLEX specific one, clinical rotations sub-forums, or residency forums.

Personally, as a DO student, I really don't care if they're merged or not. I'll still end up browsing the same threads anyway. I do think most of what I see on either forum is relevant to both DO and MD students though.
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Sure, but even currently some of those threads should be in the complex specific forum and are not. I am unsure if moderation will become more stringent post proposed merger.
 
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