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I am wondering if anyone can provide me more information on this program. How hard is it to get into? What is the cost for out of state students (the website was confusing for this)? Will they accept people with a BA less than 3.0 if overall GPA is above 3.0? Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thank you!
 
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I am wondering if anyone can provide me more information on this program. How hard is it to get into? What is the cost for out of state students (the website was confusing for this)? Will they accept people with a BA less than 3.0 if overall GPA is above 3.0? Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thank you!

These questions can be answered by calling the admissions department. Ask them how many students applied the previous year, than compare that number to the number of seats that were available. Look at what their admissions requirements are. That will given you an indication of how difficult it is. Your last question does not make sense.
 
Sometimes it is helpful to hear from students in addition to admission folks. Overall GPA means the sum of grades received from your bachelors degree and after your bachelors degree.
 
In speaking with CSUDH OT department admissions representatives I was informed that there were about 350 applicants seeking 66 slots last admissions cycle The GPA requirement appears cumulative in arriving at the 3.0 baseline, meaning your BA and Post-BA coursework are totaled and given a weighted average. I sent my transcript to the Program Director for review, I would advise you to do this prior to applying as they will answer specific questions like this via email more readily than by phone. CSUDH requires attendance at an information session, the next ones are June 28, July 26, and August 24. GRE is required and the application deadline is September 15, so if you haven't taken that yet, time to start studying. Although their posted GRE score cutoffs are pretty low (140Q 146V 4.O AW) my sense is the cohort average is much higher. There is a rider on one of the linked docs that says they may consider candidates who fall below the posted minimums in certain situations. Given the less than 20% acceptance rate, I wouldn't count on that. Good luck. The links below might help.
Out of state tuition is about double the $3,700 per quarter for instate tuition, it is calculated by adding $248 per unit to the instate tuition.


http://www.csudh.edu/cps/hhs/ot/Frequently Asked.doc

http://www.csudh.edu/cps/hhs/ot/MSOTProgramInformation-updated.doc
 
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Sometimes it is helpful to hear from students in addition to admission folks. Overall GPA means the sum of grades received from your bachelors degree and after your bachelors degree.

I understand, but it's sometimes difficult to get enough input from these forums, which is why I suggested calling admissions.
I understand what Overall GPA is. However Overall GPA is relative, as there are different ways of calculating it. The question was confusing because I did not know which Overall GPA you were referring to.
 
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I attended the CSU-DH information yesterday and learned a few things that might be of some use to those applying for January 2014 cohort. The application deadline is September 15 and applications can be submitted starting August 1, after you have begun a CSU Grad School application online and have been given a student number. The acceptance ratio last year was 1 in 5 applications of those who met all advertised admission criteria. That does not include those applicants who were rejected prima facie based on having incomplete files or lacked qualifying GPA or GRE scores.

First, it appears they have tilted toward a fairly strict rubric system that is good in some ways and not so good in others. The op had questions about GPA and that is a big part of the rubric. 2 GPA scores are calculated, one for your undergrad degree and one for your prerequisites. Nothing else is considered. Not your graduate degree, or post-bachelor teaching credential. Just your undergrad GPA and GPA for the 5 prerequisites.
Your GRE is broken into 2 numbers on the rubric, AWA and combined V and Q. Below are the averages of this years cohort in those four areas.

Minimum undergrad GPA. 3.0. Avg undergrad GPA 2012 cohort, 3.66
Minimum Prerequisite GPA 3.0 Avg Prerequisite GPA 2012 cohort 3.78
Minimum GRE AWA score, 4.0. Avg GRE AWA 2012 cohort. 4.45
Minimum GRE V 146, Q 140, combined V and Q 286. Avg V and Q combined 2012 cohort 310


Must have Minimum 80 hours shadowing/volunteering with OT Documented via LOR on institutional letterhead

LOR 1 from OT, 1 from academia, 1 of your choosing(preferably not your mother) THEY DO NOT allow a fourth LOR under ANY circumstances.

The rubric weighs the quantifiable stuff, (GRE, GPA) far more heavily than the LOR's. If you are above average in those 4 areas listed above, you have a very good chance of acceptance as long as the rest of your application is complete. According to the Director of the program, they are less and less likely allow any slack on any single number below the advertised minimums. If you do have a 2.8 undergrad GPA, you need to balance it with a 4.0 on your prerequisites. You are allowed to retake
prerequisites WITHOUT PENALTY! That means even if you got a D in Anatomy you can retake and only report the second grade. You are allowed to have up to 2 of the 5 prereqs in progress at the time of application.

For hopeful CSU-DH MSOT 2014 cohort applicants, there is still time to retake your GRE's. They were very clear that you must have a 4.0 or better on the AWA- and they emphasized the "or better". The V and Q scores will be taken from a single sitting but the
AWA score can be applied from a separate sitting. If your combined score is below 300 on the V and Q you might improve your chances by boosting that score.

Of course there is nothing you can do about that undergrad GPA unless you get a second bachelors. This is not as hard or expensive as you think. You can apply up to 90 credits from your original BS or BA, eliminating your poorest grades from your first Degree and earn 30 credits additional credits, including prereqs. There are a few regionally accredited schools in the country that have very low residency requirements(as in 6 credits) so you can combine credits from multiple sources to earn that degree. You can do that for under $5k.

The real lesson is improve your prereq grades if you want to get into CSUDH. Consider retaking B's, It is one of the four quantitative rubric elements that are most heavily weighed on your application.

It may be discouraging to some, but it is what it is. There is no place in the application process for your resume, for example. You personal statement is limited to the generic CSU wide application form, not the department MSOT application. On the other hand, it is very forgiving on prereq do overs.

I hope this is of some use to those who plan on applying to CSU-DH. Best of luck.
 
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is the only counting a bachelors/prereqs a CSDH specific thing? I will die if other schools are doing the same thing.
 
is the only counting a bachelors/prereqs a CSDH specific thing? I will die if other schools are doing the same thing.
It is definitely specific to CSU DH in this instance. It may apply to other schools that do not use OTCAS. I posted this specific information about the CSU DH program in order to help those who plan on applying there to create their own personal road map to meet that particular destination. Some schools, like Dominican in San Rafael CA will take your highest score from each aspect of the GRE from three different sittings, if that maximizes your score. CSUDH does not do this but will split the AWA from the V and Q, for example. One wonderful thing about this forum is it collects specific feedback on each school. If you have a target school, find out what their requirements are beyond what is published by sleuthing it out of the admissions dept and information sessions. I have been to 3 different school's information sessions and have learned quite a bit more about their respective admission requirements than those schools publish on their websites and in their collateral.

Also, consider earning a second BA from a school that has very low residency requirements to replace the GPA that doesn't include your post -bac course work. That may sound like an arduous method but it is not very difficult if you have earned more than 30 post-bac credits. There are a few regionally accredited institutions that require as few as 6 credits from that institution in order to earn a BA or BS. I actually used this method myself and increased my GPA from 3.45 to 3.87 in so doing.
 
I had a one on one session with one of the professors there about the admissions process and everything mention in the above posts is correct. She also did mention that they do factor in what school you attended. Such as if you attended a highly ranked school, they correlate the rank of the school with how well you did in their classes. Also, she mentioned the GRE over and over again throughout our meeting, which I can only imply as take it and retake it to get the highest score possible. They believe the GRE is a direct factor in how well you will do in their program as their program is a MSOT, heavily emphasizing the science.

She also emphasized that only 1 or 2 of their students drop out during the program, and it is not because they are unable to handle the workload, it is due to outside circumstances (i.e pregnancy etc) so they are extremely selective that students they admit will stay and finish the program.
 
I have a LORs from two OTR that I observed, and I will soon have a third since I observed in three different settings. If I want to show for the number of observation hours, how do I do this if they don't allow more than one LOR from a therapist? Do they just need hours noted, and a signature on letterhead? I went to the orientation last year but was not able to apply since my GRE scores came late. At the orientation back then, they did not mention there was a limit since the letter is how the OTR verified volunteer hours. Did they make a change?
 
I have a LORs from two OTR that I observed, and I will soon have a third since I observed in three different settings. If I want to show for the number of observation hours, how do I do this if they don't allow more than one LOR from a therapist? Do they just need hours noted, and a signature on letterhead? I went to the orientation last year but was not able to apply since my GRE scores came late. At the orientation back then, they did not mention there was a limit since the letter is how the OTR verified volunteer hours. Did they make a change?

I'm pretty sure what they want is some sort of verification letter stating you completed so and so hours with this OT and have it signed on letterhead. I talked with Dr. Mayfield and she specifically said that only one LOR from an OT, one preferably from a professor, and one from a person who can speak about your character.
 
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